Welcome to Taylor's 4th-grade Philosophy Class! We'll learn the very basics of the life of Socrates; Taylor will totally misinterpret one of his greatest edicts, “The unexamined life is not worth living,” and we'll learn a little about the life of the Ancient Greek Thinkers. The 'Doomed' part is that Socrates LOVED Athens with all his heart, and even when the gigantic jury of 501 Athenian Men find him guilty of not honoring the Gods of Athens & corrupting the youth, he still won't leave. This isn't really for 4th graders. There is some swearing.
Welcome to Taylor's 4th-grade Philosophy Class! We'll learn the very basics of the life of Socrates; Taylor will totally misinterpret one of his greatest edicts, “The unexamined life is not worth living,” and we'll learn a little about the life of the Ancient Greek Thinkers.
The 'Doomed' part is that Socrates LOVED Athens with all his heart, and even when the gigantic jury of 501 Athenian Men find him guilty of not honoring the Gods of Athens & corrupting the youth, he still won't leave.
This isn't really for 4th graders. There is some swearing.
Sources:
Socrates: A Man for Our Times - https://www.everand.com/audiobook/630261989/Socrates-A-Man-for-Our-Times
Socrates' Speech: Analyzing Plato's Symposium, Part VII | The New Thinkery Ep. 43 - https://www.everand.com/podcast/697650730/Socrates-Speech-Analyzing-Plato-s-Symposium-Part-VII-The-New-Thinkery-Ep-43-In-the-seventh-installment-of-an-ongoing-series-breaking-down-Plato
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was going to um um because I'm gonna talk about the father of Western philosophy Socrates
sweet yeah I love that um did you take any philosophy courses in college or school or whatever I'm sure I took it in
school but in law school their me method of teaching is called the Socratic method and it's all based
on Socrates and how he taught presumably um yeah so I think I got a decent dose
of him in law school that's great well chime in whenever you have other things
to add about him um so I'm going to do some facts some fun stories and talk a
little bit how we know anything about him at all cuz he didn't leave any writings so we only have like secondhand
accounts of people who knew him and um they'll talk about how he died which
will bring us back to the death penalty that I mentioned in our last episode so the reason that we know anything
about him is because his students were Plato and zenfon so Plato obviously is
like another very famous philosopher and zenfon is the person who wrote the book about Cyrus the Great that I read for
that Cyrus the Great episode as well so he's like a philosopher biographer
writer kind of guy um and so that's where we get the most of the stuff that
we know about him is from his students talking about him he didn't leave us anything um but Socrates was born in
Athens Greece in 470 BC and he [ __ ] loved Athens like more than any place
ever like loved it love loved it and I was looking up like where is Sparta and
like where is Athens and they're just like it's just such a small area to be fighting constantly you know for like
all of ancient times but he was very like Athenian he loved Athens and he fought against the Spartans in different
times and that conflict is going to go up and down and we mentioned that a little bit we talked about Cyrus the Great like all that but um but he he's
he's on the Athens side so interesting because like you hear about their culture and who they are as people
you're like you were all the same people like if y all were living today you would have nuked the world over 50 times
again 100% you're like next to each other calm down and I also heard something when I was studying art
history um a long time ago I think I took a class about like ancient Greek
architecture or something like that and one of the things that my professor had said was that the Spartans were worried
that no one would remember them because they didn't do like the philosophizing
and the building they were they were more focused on their people you know and like making their people strong and like this like warrior class
they didn't leave anything behind that like couldn't be destroyed you know the way right think of like Athens we think
of Greece you know we don't think of Sparta as Greece of Athens as Greece it's still there also right right wait
was Sparta Greece yeah it's like in Greece was Troy is Troy different no
it's a good question the map that I just looked at it's like the middle of Greece is Athens the southern tip of Greece is
Sparta and then like it kind of Curves around and Tres a little bit north so
it's near there all the it's all very close it's like all the same people basically yeah yeah um so it also feels
to me like sacares was never young but he was and we have like a couple stories of him from when he was a young man but
really we see him the way we see him in statues and in like images as like a
really ugly old man and people say that and he like talked about being ugly that was like when of his like kind of his
virtues cuz he people had to like him for other reasons he had like a punched in nose and like big bulging eyes um and
he would walk around town with no shoes on even though shoes were available he would just like ask people questions
that's just the method you know just like a a guy who like is around um but
he started off as a like a well-to-do family his parents were s sanus and
fener he was a stone worker and she was a midwife so both of his parents had jobs and he had a nice life he was
educated in the way that most Athenian men were had a general schooling and then he was also in the military so he
was a hoplight which is like a a uh like a I think it's just like a regular guy
in the military he be called in sort of not like um drafted per se but like we're talking also in the Cyrus the
Great one where they'd be like come on fars let's go you have to like put your bucket on your hat and go yes I remember know yeah I floaties
on my arms in that episode I think like let's go and um so that's that's I think
he was that but a little bit more prepared because he was like a little bit of a higher class guy um according to Plato he was in three uh three
different battles he that were during the pelian war there was a Siege of
padea in northern Greece the Athenian attack on delium and the Expedition
North to defend the Athenian colony of emilus so very Greek words to everyone
crushing you are crushing those so there's this place in Chicago that is closed now but it was called the
Parthenon and it was a Greek restaurant like in Greek Town in Chicago and it's a great a great place and it was so fun I
used to go with my Uncle Dale all the time and my dad and my uncle would go during their lunch breaks in the 70s and it was the kind of place where you could
like you order the um the saganaki the the cheese and they laid it on fire in front of you and everybody goes oh uh
you know what I mean just fun it's so fun um Unfortunately they closed during Co and but but um my sister when she was
in school later someone asked where the Parthenon was and she said
Chicago just not wrong no not wrong so sweet um but yeah lots of Greek battles
that he was in and then he comes back to Athens and he begins a life as a philosopher and a teacher I don't really
know what he got like paid for he didn't need that much money because he was like a I'm a philosopher I don't have shoes
kind of guy but he also had like family money and I imagine that like he did a
little bit of teaching for money but he wasn't like a lot of teachers during that time we're like both like I'm going
to teach the young men of Athens and I'm going to charge them money or I'm going to charge them sex and that's like a
thing that will come up in this which is like that like old man young man sexual relationship that some of the teachers
had it sounds like sacares didn't do that but there but I'm not going to like say he didn't and have that be a thing
he did later you know it was very common to be like you know you are an older man you are teaching a young man the ways of
the world and that includes having a sexual relationship yeah so good it's a thing
that happened like while everything else was happening um so sacr was married
twice he had three children probably um and his most favorite student like I said is Plato and then Plato's student
is Aristotle so I feel like if you were like Taylor name Three Philosophers I'd be like Socrates Plato and Aristotle like that probably where it ended for me
so I literally literally cannot think of another one yeah so they're all they are
related um one thing that is going to lead to sort of socrates's demise is
another name that you might have heard is Aristophanes which is I feel like more comfortable saying because I've heard that name before he was a play
right and he wrote a play about Socrates called the clouds and in that play he
really he shows Socrates as a person who's an atheist and who doesn't believe in in God or gods of the time and
Aristophanes met Socrates like he didn't know him but he met him and he apologized he was like oh I see that's
not really like you because as far as religion goes he definitely thought that there like was some sort of like being
or beings and he thought that God spoke to him directly like directly to
Socrates um it's called a demonic sign where you have an inner voice that stops
you from making mistakes and he was like this is God talking to me but also I think that's just a conscience and like
yeah it's just yeah you talking to yourself I'm not super impressed but
that's like the proof that that sacares was in in some cases religious so some
of the things that he liked and some of the things that have like come to us through history because he did a ton of
you know talking and thinking and I'll tell you kind of how he shared his ideas
but um there's a Socratic method do you want to tell me what that means
so the the way so the way it was it's used is
well I'm going to talk about it in the con law school the way it's used was a
professor you know calling on somebody to it was like reflective listening almost is basically the simplest way to
put it was you tell me what your understanding of something was and then let me just prod I'm just going to pull
a thread and pull a threat and pull a thread until you have fully exhausted all thoughts within
that concept that you're trying to articulate it was it was teaching by
helping you remove the blockers you have as opposed to just telling you no this
is how it is that's exactly right it's teaching people to look into themselves and find
the answers themselves by asking them questions right like asking them questions and pulling on that thread
like you said and getting them to come to a an answer or like a conclusion to whatever they're thinking about exactly
that so there's that obviously still used today um there's he focused a lot on ethical focus and self- knowledge so
he said something um that hurts my feelings every time I hear it which is the unexamined life is not worth living
which hurts my feelings because like no one's examining my
life I I don't I never interpreted that saying that way my feeling is like No
One's Gonna Write a Taylor Pinero biography and so like what the [ __ ] am I doing no that feels unfair that's not okay any
you tell me because it Hur everybody else like write in and tell us if you which way you see this I
never interpret it that way I interpret is like a lack of self-reflection of one
life is not one that's worth living because you're never able to look outside yourself and improve and
change oh I like that I never saw it it's not likei
that says something about me that's where I went to being like I've done nothing yeah you are a
narcissist stop being a narcissist I'm not a narcissist but I but okay that makes me feel a bit better um also he he
you know linked knowledge as a virtue you know the more that you know um you know the better you will act in society
and one thing that he talked about that I made a note of is like even if someone does something bad to you doing
something that you know is wrong in retaliation is worse you know so he was definitely like even though he was like
in the military and like probably doing things like that he he was very much like two wrongs don't make it right you
know I don't agree with that but sure sure um also you know intellectual
humility so he claimed he would always be like I don't know anything I know nothing I'm just like here to like guide
people through things so that was like a big thing of his too he was very like humble about everything that like he knew cuz he didn't like he was he would
be like oh you know I'm just asking questions you know just a question guy but people were like really impressed by his you know his questions and the way
that he was getting people to think deeper um he also believed that women and men were no different intellectually
which was a new idea for for that time um he thought that women should be able to do whatever they want to do so if
they want to you know stay at home and be a stay-at-home mom that's fine if they want to run for office that's fine
um which I think makes him a feminist and he would love Instagram reals of
these I'm sure you don't get these but like these reals are these like Trad wives who are these women who are like I
cook for my husband I'm not a feminist and it's like stop being a [ __ ] you can do both you know the whole idea is
feminist you do whatever you want yeah yeah I I I'm also not the demographic
for that no totally well I get those I get those and it's like you don't have to put other people down to share the
thing that you're doing that's stupid um but he was very much like you know women and men can both both be involved in in
the government and involved obviously women were not but he thought that they could um he also had his formal students
but they also had discussions at parties called symposiums and I feel like we've lost a thread on symposiums and now it's
just like a place where you might go hear people talk but then it was like specifically a drinking party where you would like drink Aon and everybody would
give speeches which sounds fun it does sound well I mean that kind of is what
what we do now like I saw I saw a thing on also on
Instagram where it was like a group of friends being like having a PowerPoint presentations about what they do for work at a party and like it's so funny
because you're like telling your friends like well then I do this and this and people are like what like this don't know what you do every day you know um
but you would like in the syposium you would drink wine and talk and like listen to others um
I listen I listened to one uh a podcast about um about philosophy that kind of
went into one of the symposiums that he was in where he talks about love and I'll tell you a little bit more about that in a second um but in the meantime
he's just like living his life in Athens going to some Museum he has a couple students he's walking around asking people questions just like this old guy
who who has a lot a lot to think about and there's a lot going on obviously in like the government and the military and
there's a leader Pericles another name that I've heard before and Pericles has a mistress named um aasia of Melius dear
Lord aasia she's also a midwife so aasia might have known socrates's mom like through the Midwife trade and he credits
her with teaching him how to do to do the Socratic method he got it from aasia
she was telling him like encouraging him to ask questions and pry and like you know try to get people to to make their
own opinions and he kind of learned that from her and so he he pulled that from her and he said that to people he said that he got that from her um there's
also a big thing happening because um you know paricles is going to die and
they're in all these battles with Sparta and just like always you know there's a
thing that's like you know whether we win or lose is determined by God or the Gods like that's that's the thing like
we didn't pray hard enough we didn't sacrifice enough animals and one of his things was like stop sacrificing animals
just like be a good person and I think that the gods will be fine with that you know he was kind of against that um one
of the things he talked about at one of these symposiums was about how um a god couldn't be beautiful or ugly but
somewhere in between and that's an idea he got from aasia trying to get to this like point where things aren't black and
white you can be a little bit of this and a little bit of that um and that was one of the things that he was like talking about with people and trying to
get them to to Think Through um so you know he's having these conversations he's there's a little bit of Uprising
happening around Greece and um he's talking and teaching and it's 399 BC and
[ __ ] starts to hit the fan for Socrates so you remember the play we mentioned a while back um called the clouds that was
24 years ago at this point um and it should be a piece of the past but plays are are this is when like the theater
especially in like in like Western World becomes the way that you like get your
news you know do you ever have you ever seen like a Greek play where it's like the chorus and the stuff you know what I
I don't think I've ever seen a Greek play there's like a I know the structure I I understand I understand like the
structure and the concept of it but I don't think I've ever seen one in person yeah so the course is like super intense saying the same thing at the same time
right and there yeah yeah of course it'd be like one person acting and then they kind of like go back and forth so
everybody remembers this play about zakes um and there's also another play called the wasps that was similarly kind
of poisoning Socrates as an atheist um who and because he could argue in any
direction which is something that I'm sure you learned that in law school as well to like argue both sides so you understand how to do that because he
could do that um in these plays they had him arguing um young men to hurt their
fathers and being like we argue you out of this like we can get you out of this if we like figure out all these ways to
talk about it and so people were you know still kind of upset about that that was like in there um and you know he
definitely was like you know people need to be smarter um Plato would have the idea of like philosopher Kings like the
people in the government should be very very smart so he was like also like saying that as well and kind of putting that out there to the people that he was
teaching with that like we need to make sure the people in charge are super smart and he was doing that by like teaching um and
post Pericles the democratic government which is like all of the men who were
not slaves could vote and were like very very involved in government like they all had like a very direct like onetoone
Vote or they were like in the Senate there's like a lot more people I feel like now it feels like there's too many people but there's a lot more people in
the government and they needed someone to be mad at you know it's just like a
everyone's kind of mad like a common cause so they accuse Socrates of ignoring the gods of aens and corrupting
the youth with impiety and that's just like telling the youth to question
things which is like his whole his whole deal so they charge him with that and they put him on trial for those two
things um so the trial was held guess how many jurors there were in the
trial I mean this is olden times so I'd assume it's hundreds yeah
5501 wow that's like the place the thing that we're doing and some I mentioned in the book that I read that I'll put in
the notes is like one thing that the Greeks were really good at was like you know they're
putting on these stage plays um and they're building these buildings where you can hear from really far away you
know like if you were actually like in one of those buildings when they were like fully made and all the things like if someone's talking on stage and you're
in the back row you can still hear them because of like the Acoustics you know that they like had but during the trial
of sacares they were just like in the Acropolis and and he was just like talking but like not that loudly and a
lot of the jurist couldn't even hear him defend himself you know and mean how big
is a how big is that it's huge but it's also like not built for that kind of
speaking you know right right because if you don't have like a microphone you have to like be in a place where it's
like a natural amplifier right um so not everybody could hear him but in the end
um it it was 280 for the death penalty and two 221 against so he got the death
penalty um his friends told him to run but he wouldn't this is just like Oscar wild member did the same thing friends
are like you can just take a train to France and like disappear and he was like no I have to stay here you know um
and like sa was old and he was like he loved Athens so much he would never he didn't want to leave and he would never have left um
so the question is like you know why did the city of Athens turn against this man
who was like such a great man of their um of their city and there's a bunch of reasons and I read a bunch of different
things that people um that people thought um one of them is by an author
named Andrew Irvine he said um quote during a time of war and great social
and intellectual upheaval sacares felt compelled to express his views openly regardless of consequences as a result
he is remembered today not only for his sharp wit and high ethical standards but Al for also for his loyalty to the view
that in a democracy the best way for a man is serve himself his friends and his City even during times of War as of
being loyal to and speaking publicly about the truth so people were just like mad at him for trying to get people to
think a little bit differently about what was going on so he went to jail for a little bit he tried to appeal but the
death penalty was it stuck and he died in 399 BC so pretty quickly
after he was um convicted he spent his uh last day in prison he saw his wife
and his kids he had actually he was like in his 50s and he had a young kid so he was definitely still like with his wife
and she was 60s 50s I think oh 50s okay yeah um but he had a kid um and so his
wife and his kid came and then some of his friends were there and they were like getting sad and he was like don't
be sad everybody like everything's fine like this is what I want like this is this is the way it has to be and so do
you remember how he dies no so he drinks poison hemlock
which I always so is he's like dying by Suicide which I always had thought
without looking it up at all that he died by Suicide like by choice in Jael rather than something else but that was
the death penalty so I actually didn't know that he was sentenced to death at
all yeah so he what what happens is he's in his cell with his friends and the guy
comes in and he says here drink this and it's like in a cup and he the guy says drink this and then walk around and when
your legs start to feel heavy lay down so he drinks this poison hemlock which
is like a root and he walks around and he's like okay I'm starting to get tired my legs are getting heavy and he lays
down and he closes his eyes and then he kind of like rolls over and he opens his
eyes and looks at his friend his friend um kitto and he says Christo we owe a rooster to asopus don't forget to pay
the debt which is we owe an animal sacrifice to the god of knowledge don't
forget to do that which is like funny because he didn't believe in that anyway you know um and then he just rolled over
and died was it because he was like suffering from the poisoning that he said that I think he said it as like a
joke oh okay you know like don't forget to do this animal sacrifice to this at the end of it I think but I don't know
that's my guess but isn't that an insane weight for the death penalty to go you just have to
drink so okay so while I was researching my case or my story I also looked up
what nitrogen hypoxia is and it's kind of like that really yeah yeah because
you have to like a lot of times what they do is they just don't breathe they'll just hold their breath because
for the execution to take place you have to volunt well not voluntarily you have to do something in this case in in that
that case breathing and then you get the the whatever whatever it does to you it
happens but same kind of situation like it's almost cooler to do it that way I
think so too I feel like it's a very slow like the that and like the electric
chair and like those things are like very slow well we're civilized now
Taylor so we don't shoot people in the head even though that would be the most obvious way to do it I agree it's
terrible but like there's no like good option but I feel like that is like you don't know that's happening you know um
your story wait is your story is that it for your story that's it that's it um I
I um wait Asus the God is a god of medicine healing truth and prophecy
maybe I thought that wrong um but that's who that's who it is so it's interesting
because I was just listening to I mean I need to stop plugging this podcast but I was listening to Freakonomics
and the most recent episode is called how does the Lost World of Vienna still shape our lives and it was really
interesting because it was um apparently Vienna back
like before World War I was kind of like it was kind of it was kind of like
the way they described it was kind of like New York City is to to to the world now where like every culture kind of
goes there and then blend BL and ends up becoming its own unique culture where
they were saying how like New Yorkers are kind of like their own different thing like they're not like other like
Mo a lot of those people come from other places and but they identify as New Yorkers they get along as as New Yorkers
and how Vienna was essentially that way where it brought in all these people and one of the things that they they called
out specifically had to do with the vast majority of like
philosophers and like New Wave thinking um all originate out of that era of
Vienna and how it all just came to a crashing halt when Hitler annexed um
Austria and by extension Vienna into Germany and it was like everybody just
FL it was interesting I was like what would have happened if he hadn't done that like like I mean I don't know maybe
maybe the US wouldn't have developed into into what it developed into or more
amazing things would have came out of the I don't know but it was just it was just interesting how historically the
fact that you take all these like heavy thinkers the way kind of Socrates arel all these guys were concentrating them
into one location during one time and it just like yeah shoots out in every other
direction totally because you have like one teacher and his like student and his student and then those are the Three
Philosophers we know you know like that was so long ago that was just like this one little piece of time um yeah it's
interesting and then I'm also I'm looking at that that uh episode you just mentioned and it says they they explore
how the arrival of fascism can ruin in a few years what took generations to build yeah that's what that's what mentioned
and they were like yeah it was the way they described Vienna back then was like
like a paradise like an intellectual Paradise where everywhere you went you were going to be around the smartest
people in the entire world and all of them just we're like we got to get out of
here yeah yeah that totally makes sense I'll listen to that that's interesting
yeah I feel like um man like we're watching the Benjamin Franklin show on apple plus it's so good
it's called Franklin um but it's just like it shows like pre it's obviously like during uh
Revolutionary War and Franklin is in Paris to try to get the French to help and like w fette is there and like a lot
of people that we know are there and um Adams just arrived and it's so funny cuz joh Adams hates everybody it's just
delightful um but like the world that they're living in is so ridiculous it's like they live in these places and
everybody's just like so dressed up like even like the men have like on you know powdered faces and blush and like they
have these like it's just huge parties and like Benjamin Franklin's son or grandson ghost of Versa and Lafayette is
like oh you can't wear that let's get your new clothes and they just like calling all these tailor and they make him new clothes it was always a place to stay and people are just like hanging
out you're like what is this weird courtly life you know I mean we could just do that we could
just start dressing up everywhere we go I um did think that if we ever do a live show I do want to wear a ball gown
like I don't really wear ball gowns very often whoops there was a bark there um
yeah well we'll we'll we'll have to we'll have to plan our first uh you know we we'll call Madison Square guard and
see if they'll be able to occupy our audience um Let's Do It Let's Do It um
well thanks for sh to that was cool yeah thank you I wish I wish I I do want to
learn more but I feel like whatever you learn in school it's like it just goes straight through you you know like in
high school you're like whatever and like in college they make you take like a intro to philosophy course I was looking at my college transcript the
other day for like no reason and I got like a B minus and intive philosophy and I'm like that tracks I was 18 I was
scared I thought about I thought about like man if I could go back to like college and law school I would have paid
so much more attention to that than like the stupid things paid attention to I know it's such a bummer but like also
like I had a good time but also like poop I should have done a little bit more I know but but it was but this
conversation was good it took me back to law school I was just reflecting back on specific classes um and picturing
specific professors like posing questions to me and I was like oh yeah that was nice so I do like that I I
like I like the method yeah yeah totally totally cool it
uh do we have any other listener we do I'm gonna send you a audio clip um from
Morgan our friend and listener because she sent me an audio clip because I mentioned during the Cyrus the Great
episode how fun it is to say Nebuchadnezzar and she sent me like a 10-second audio clip of her saying that
Nebuchadnezzar in Hebrew um in the Old Testament in the Hebrew Bible and it's
great so I will give you that and you can play it now wait are you going to send it to me
right now no I just did that place so you could splice it in oh God got it got
it I G be like whoa that's cool afterwards and and here we're gonna play the clip that Taylor sent me I'm
like assuming you could do this in garage band or wherever you I can yeah
totally I'll I'll send it to play whatever are cool thanks Morgan thanks
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thanks Taylor yeah thanks foris cool we'll cheat later cool I'm pause this