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Ep 115 - The Bumbling Germans who Landed on Long Island: Operation Pastorius

Episode Summary

🚀 Dive into the covert world of WWII espionage with our latest episode on Operation Pastorius! 🌍🔍 Discover the daring mission, the saboteurs' journey, and how it all unraveled. Tune in for a thrilling tale of spies, secrets, and sabotage. 🎙️🎧 #OperationPastorius #WWIIHistory #Espionage #PodcastEpisode #HistoricalMysteries #SecretMissions #WarStories #SpyTales #HistoryUnveiled #MustListen

Episode Notes

🚀 Dive into the covert world of WWII espionage with our latest episode on Operation Pastorius! 🌍🔍 Discover the daring mission, the saboteurs' journey, and how it all unraveled. Tune in for a thrilling tale of spies, secrets, and sabotage. 🎙️🎧

#OperationPastorius #WWIIHistory #Espionage #PodcastEpisode #HistoricalMysteries #SecretMissions #WarStories #SpyTales #HistoryUnveiled #MustListen

Episode Transcription

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[Music] in a matter of the people of State of California versus orthal James Simpson case number ba09 and so my fellow

Americans ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your

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nothing but we appreciate our fans and the folks that support us I'm joined here by Taylor I'm for should I redo

this no stop I'm gonna do it okay ready hi everyone welcome to Doom to fail my name is Taylor I'm joined by fars we're

the podcast that brings you history's most notorious disasters and epic failures twice a week anywhere you

listen to podcasts and today fars is going to tell us the story tayl you're actually more confident than me at like

everything that's that's how I've been doing it on Tik Tok so it's trying to get us more more views no you you're

you're you crushed that way more than me there is a mosquito that is tracking me it's

okay so I am covering a fun topic today it is

like a serious topic but it's like so funny the way that it played out one article that I read about this

said that this was kind of like a Mr Bean episode which once you start

digging into it you can totally relate to so I'm going to cover something called operation

historious um have you heard of this before Taylor I feel like maybe but keep keep you go well I'm going to break this

up into several acts so act one is what operation Pistorius was two is the

historical context by which it was created and then

number three is what was the outcome of this operation so well go go ahead sorry

I tell you I'm do you read this we watched the day of the dolphin no it says C Scott movie and the

it's so stupid but the poster says unwittingly he trained a dolphin to

kill the president of the United States and it's about George she Scott being a dolphin trainer and that's what I feel

like this is going to be about but I'm sure it's not really about that it's like it's not that off actually this

look this looks incredible this looks absolutely incredible everything you expect it to be um it's it's almost as

stupid actually it's different it's a different subject matter but it's it's as stupid so

getting into Act One what operation pastorious was people are going to start kind of cluing in on what I'm talking about here uh so operation Pistorius was

a Nazi German plan to sabotage key Targets in the United States during

World War II so this was a Hitler created

Hitler ordained Mission and it was given to an admiral named Wilhelm caneras much

to his uh bad luck to execute on this Mission so so caneris named it Pastorius

I was curious like where that came from because it reminded me a lot of that South African guy the I thinking yeah is

that his name it's piss story yes he just got out he just got out it's crazy

like I hope he has a horrible life from here on out because he 100% did it he 100% killed

her like for sure got scared and shot her and the also like he get scared you don't believe that do you like he

clearly shot and killed her like if no I think he was like weirdly drunk and like but around on his

stumps that's and like nice got confused and had a gun which he shouldn't have

and I think it was hot because also part of the story is where the the fans in no AC I think it was like a weird situation

but listen if I woke up if I woke up and Rachel wasn't there but I knew she had stayed the

night my first inclination if I hear a door open somewhere else isn't to like start shooting my first was like

probably r yes I mean unless unless she had it

coming anyways sorry we're dark territory um I need to stop incriminating myself so this is

interesting I looked this up so caneris this Admiral that Hitler was like caneris you figure this out he named it

Pastorius after this guy named Francis Daniel Pastorius who was one of the

first German settlers to come to the original 13 colonies in the US and

established the first permanent German American settlement called German Town Pennsylvania which is now part of

Philadelphia so quick Sidetrack here I know someone who lives there it's beautiful I love Philadelphia is great I

love uh Taylor so this is a little bit of a side note I think I might be

starting to come over to your side of the equation when it comes to whether

the time in which something happens should shape how we feel about

the morals of the people of that time because in 1688

1688 six years after this guy Francis arrived in the colonies he along with

other prominent German expats drafted and signed the 186 or sorry the 1688

germant toown Quaker petition against slavery which was the first public

statement against slavery in the colonies literally the first one it was actually referenced in the Gettysburg

address by um by Lincoln it was dusted off and found in 1844 it was lost again

until like 2015 and like it was just found again and restored and on exhibit

in Pennsylvania but this is literally the very first time this is hap this

happened in the US and it happened in [Music] 1688 yeah they knew they knew which it's

interesting this is crazy to me because I went through several rabbit holes here and none of this is ritten down so I'm

I'm kind of just just vamping here so forgive me if I'm wrong about this but they Germany the parts of Europe

that are now called Germany the Ryland they didn't have slavery there

the the Atlantic slave trade didn't come to Germany until like the early 1800s so

by the time these guys were there and when they left they never experienced slavery like it wasn't even a thing in

in their home country like it was all brand new when they first arrived to the US so really weird really wild

so um anyways it's kind of interesting that he named it after Francis given Hitler's

General view over about German Americans so on the one hand he was kind of proud

that Germans were typically more accomplished than other ethnic groups in the United States at that time but on

the other hand he also hated them for inter intermarrying and diluting German blood so little bit of a weird kind of

relationship that Hitler had with German Americans but there we go so regardless this guy caneris is Admiral

he set about to recruit agents for the mission and settled on eight guys I'm going to name them off for the

historical cont for the sake of history but their names outside of two or three of these don't really matter so one is

um George John Dash uh Ernest Peter Burger those are the two that really matter going forward Herbert Hans HT H

Henrik hink Edward John curling Herman Otto newbower Richard kin Ward teal so

the top two the dash guy that I mentioned and the burger guy are the only ones that really matter going forward in the story but those are the

eight that were recruited okay his recruitment criteria was to find people who had experience in the US or with

American culture and the interest of basically blending in with Americans easily all these guys were deemed loyal

to Hitler and Germany and all the men he recruited were members of the German American bonded which that's if they

were like American citizens for example or residents then they were part of that organization or if they were German

residents directly then they were part of the Nazi party either way they were part of some affiliation with the Nazi

party uh yeah for context the boond it was a US political party established to support and promote n Nazi ideology um

that's basically it that's who they were yeah yeah they were they were like famous for having like a Madison Square

Garden rally do you remember this hear that big Nazi R rally I think

like someone very very famous spoke there I'm sure you going I'm sure yeah

you know what I did I did find that and I just didn't write down the outline but I can't remember what it was now but um

so these recruits were given extense of training on how to destroy or sabotage Targets this included training on

explosive and mechanical and chemical engineering uh their targets were going to be Electro uh hydroelectric plants

chemical manufacturing plants railroad tracks uh cryolite plants which they

were used to create Florine and aluminum aluminum being a critical component in production of aircraft vehicles and

Munitions and floring was used for Uranium enrichment and they also wanted to blow up Bridges water facilities and

just generally terrorize Jewish businesses is what the goal was so

so that's kind of the what part of like what this operation was let me go into

the historical context of what was happening at this time so act two the historical cont text so in September of

1940 Germany Italy and Japan signed a tripartite pact forming the access

powers so the point of The Pact was to establish that if any member country was attacked the remaining countries were

Duty bound to defend them in 1941 the US was neutral and it wanted to remain

neutral it was actually passing Neutrality Acts as bills in Congress to

almost Force the president into neutrality the war at that time was seen as a European issue and one that we didn't

really need to putt in on Japan saw it differently though um I started going down a rabbit hole of why Japan and

Germany joined forces because they seem kind of like strange bad fellows but that is like a whole another episode

there's a whole lot of history and context in terms of why that happened regardless Japan was part of this pack

between Germany and Italy and Japan decided to engage the us proactively at

Pearl Harbor so their logic was that the US would join the war anyways and so

they might as well [ __ ] the Pacific Fleet before that happens the US had reacted to Japan uh basically they re

Japan had been acting aggressively towards China and other countries in Southeast Asia and so the US had already

started aggressions towards them but they had done it through economic sanctions not through actual attack

because they were trying to stay neutral and Japan just saw like okay eventually they're going to come in anyways already putting economic sanctions they're going

to escalate so the goal was to [ __ ] that Fleet while they had the chance to do it but

being crippled was kind of the opposite outcome of the US Japan had destroyed somewhere around 1% of the overall Fleet

at P Harbor but what it had done was accelerate the US's involvement in World War II so it was a badly it was a bad

plan basically so I was just talking to um an an older gentleman who I coach

baseball with with and he was like we were chatting and talk he was like oh I like you know World War II history blah

blah blah and I was like do you think FDR knew about Pearl Harbor and he said 100% yes we knew it was gonna happen

yeah because it got us into the war we I think we'd already given a bunch of ships to the to England like we were

gonna have to do it eventually you know yeah yeah and and that's kind of what I meant when I said that Congress was

trying to keep the president at Bay with legislation was because FDR did see it

going that way and the rest of America wasn't with him they're like we don't need to be involved in

this so the US enters the the war at this

time Germany was kind of easy breezy about the whole thing because Hitler's calculation was that the Americans would

be focused on Japan and mostly leave the European battle between Germany France

and the Brits the US didn't see it that way technically we attacked Japan first it was an operation called The ditt Raid

4 months after Pearl Harbor but the engagement in the Pacific was mostly just let Japan know like hey we know

we're coming for you eventually like we're here but like we'll get to you later and the US FDR specifically viewed

Germany as a much more dangerous threat overall than it did Japan

and in yet another miscalculation by Hitler um the US basically applied

the vast majority of its military Focus towards it rather than Japan which was a bad time for that to happen so one

reason for that miscalculation had to do with the US's capacity to produce materials needed to conduct War you are

going to remember this from the um the Manhattan Project episode of um last

podcast on the left but there was during World War II a Japanese Commander um

named General tadamichi kibayashi who was responsible for holding eima against

the Americans during World War II um he studied in the US and he traveled around

to Industrial hubs in the US specifically the motor vehicle plants in Michigan he was quoted as saying quote I

saw the plant area of Detroit by one button push all the industries will be mobilized for military business so he

knew something that Hitler didn't when all this went down which was the US had the resources to continuously

wage war when other countries didn't other countries would have to invade other countries to Marshal their

resources to continue to conduct War so that was a miscalculation on Hitler's

part there was another one that was a big one that led to why operation Pistorius ended up

happening in June of 1941 Germany did probably the first really big bad stupid

thing which was uh mobilize the large ground invasion in history in operation

bar Barbarosa against the USSR the point of this being that the USSR had

agricultural um means and also oil production that Germany needed to continue the war and it was the only

choice it had but obviously nobody's ever been successful invading the USSR

and so Germany also realized it was not going to be successful basically what ended up happening was that if they

didn't knock them out in this first blow they were screwed they were in for a very long sustained Ground Battle which

is what ended up happening and they didn't have the resources to continue fighting this so there's um obviously a

great D Carlin on this called ghost of the oost front if you've ever listened to that or having it's so good it's about Germany trying to go into Russia

which like I actually have listen to that and yeah he paints a really great picture of this has never worked never

no no country balls there as cold as balls like yeah it's um it's that in

Afghanistan no country's ever successfully fought invaded Afghanistan or Russia like it's just those two

places seemingly it's weird like they Russ inv yeah like they can't inade each other yeah yeah I know we all saw

Rambo yeah yeah yeah um that's all I get most my history from

Rambo movies if Sylvester Sloan doesn't know it then I don't need to know it either Fair um so long story short is

that when the US entered the war Hitler saw which we don't know for sure because

we don't know what he actually thought about the situation but he saw the destruction of the US industrial power

is the only way to fend them off while he sorted out this Russia problem and the fact that he's being invaded by or

being attacked by every other country he just didn't expect when Japan attack Pearl Harbor that Germany would be in

the line of fire for this right he was like whatever Japan attacked you go kill

Japan I'll keep fighting this horrible battle that I'm losing right now anyways and yeah deal with you later but he was

but then he learned that that wasn't going to be the case he was like the only thing I can do is destroy their

military creation apparatus which is what that General in Japan had learned long ago so but long story short is like

at at this point uh there's some his historical speculation that even by late

1941 to 1942 around this time Hiller

probably knew he was cooked like he probably knew he was done um but we don't know for sure obviously so getting

to act three what the outcome was this is where the Mr Bean part of this whole

thing starts which is incredible so with that backdrop of History knowing

that Hitler was like I have to take out these industrial plants let's get this rag tag team of eight screw-ups together

to try and blow up a bunch of factories that's what that's what was going on so

the this group of eight were separated into four and four and each was put on a

submarine so u202 a submarine which landed at

amanet Long Island um a Long Island do you know this no like like Aman acid or

something yeah um so on June 13 1942 four of these idiots landed there there

was another submarine called U 584 which landed at Ponte bedra beach in Florida

which is just east of Jacksonville about three days later on June 16th this is all

1942 okay I know that this you're going to tell me a bumbling story but they got

here yeah that's crazy that like eight Germans invaded

the United States but still but they did it in the in the goofiest way so the first group

they were spotted immediately by a coast Guardsman a guy named John Cullen and he

was like what are you idiots doing like you know me it wasn't that I mean I know you're were trying to make it sound like but it wasn't that

skillful I know but I think it's still it's still wild was what's funny is that

these um these Germans tried to bribe this guy Cullen and so they give him $300 cash like hey hey I'll give you 300

300 bucks forget that you just saw us disembark from a nav submarine get into

a rubber dingy with crates of explosives i'ms wearing our Nazi hats wearing our

Nazi hats and they legitimately were wearing um military uniforms the reason

being was that they were like well if we wear these then we'll just be held as prisoners of War rather than shot in the

back of the head as spies that was the entire idea good good

good good good what's incredible so they offer this guy 300 bucks and he goes yeah sure I'll take take it it turns out

they shortened him 40 bucks they gave him $260 instead of the 300 and um and so he goes you know what [ __ ] these guys

he went and reported them anyways amazing so the gastard searched the area

and they found these a bunch of like German uniforms and crates of explosives

and just all kinds of obvious SP here yeah blow this up circled X like an x on

it yeah exactly but the guys themselves they' already left they already caught a train

to uh to to New York City so they were on their way um it's funny because the

uboat for this group had its own issue like I said it stayed kind of like

offshore and let them load up on a rubber dingy and go go to Shore that way

but it beached itself so this German ubo was beached right off Long Island until

the following morning when the tide came in and finally lifted it up enough so it could actually float away she's so

stupid yeah the Florida team uh the other OT the Florida team they ended up

booking it over to Chicago with the intent of being the with the intent being the two teams would sync up in

Cincinnati on the fourth of July ironically um none of this came to

fruition so one of the guys the first guy listed off this guy um George John Dash the leader of one of the two groups

uh so he was actually a US citizen he was born in Germany but he had been naturalized after illegally immigrating

to the us as a Stow weight on a ship he would eventually be naturalized and join

the US Army before being honorably discharged he would marry an American woman with whom he would later cheat on

by marrying another American woman under a false identity and having a baby with that lady so he had a lot going on yeah

and then it's like dude just stay just get divorced it's it's fine SK divorce see if he could maybe spend some time

learning a skill like archery maybe know this would happened yeah if he was really big into a curling you know if he

just distract himself with curling if

only so similarly this other guy the second guy listed off Ernest Peter Berger which is a hilarious German name

was Burger just means like citizen is it really yeah why do you know weird German

wordss you know toad is murder and burger is citizen like St German for like eight years and these two like sunk

in I know lots of other words but I just happen to know those words that are helpful to this conversation they're

very helpful thank you sorry I didn't mean to criticize you um so so this guy Burger he was also a

naturalized US citizen he would serve in the National Guard before moving back to Germany during the Great

Depression what um so so these two basically had closer ties to the US than

the other six and it was with this that Dash while were in a hotel room in New

York City pulled Burger into his room and basically told him only one of us

I'm going to tell you something and depending on how you react only one of us is going to walk out of this room

which is like pretty cool and serious I love that he told him that he was

defecting the US he was pulling a Hunt for Red October and that he was planning

on selling out the other agents Berger are you with me and

obviously under these conditions he was like yeah I'm with you because you just

told me you're going to kill me if I if I'm not with you so uh Burger agreed to join Dash whatever you want sir yeah of

course yeah one one part of the story is that he had the window open on this hotel room was like somebody somebody is

going to walk out of this room and the other one's going to go out this window

cool cool Dash cool um so on June 15th this is two days after

they land like this guy defected immediately like he was like why did you do all this so two days uh on June 15th uh Dash

calls the FBI and tells them about this plot the FBI was like okay sure cool

we'll call you later like it was like they were so dismissive and so didn't give a [ __ ] about this whole thing um it

was on the 19th that he would catch a train in into DC and go to FBI

headquarters with $84,000 in cash which is the equivalent of $1.4 million today

and again told them the plot uh this time the FBI believed him and were like

okay tell us everything about the other people that are a part of this and setad about to capture the rest of them so

FDR was super involved with all this and he was super pissed like he he had

really strong feelings about this he wanted all these people to be killed immediately it's interesting because as I research this and this is like why

like history is amazing and why matters so much the way FDR handled this was

brought up again after 911 by the Bush Administration on how we should handle enemy combatants whoa it's crazy that's

cool yeah it is it is it is well because basically the point was that in most

cases people will be tried in a criminal court but that takes time that takes the defense to be established it takes it

takes a lot of like effort and F was like you know what uh classify these as like combatants and we're not doing a

court thing we're going to set up a Military Tribunal and I'm going to choose who's a part of it and they're

going to decide my way like that's basically it like he just went around the entire system um and these guys were

again at this point they'd only been the US for like two days like they hadn't done anything um they ended up being uh

convicted of violating the law of War violating an article of war against providing intelligence to an enemy

violating another article against spying and the conspiracy to commit all the offenses above

so uh their Court uh well I guess our trial

would be so their trial would have been held on July 8th and by August 1st they

were all found guilty and they were all sentenced to death all eight of them um

later because burger and dash thought that they would be considered Heroes so they were like shocked by all this the

FBI never told anyone that they helped Hoover took full responsibility

for catching these guys but I guess in some way he had some back CH Communications with FDR so FDR decided

that he would commute Burger sentence to life in prison and dash is sentenced to

30 years in prison the other six they were all executed about a week after

their conviction by Electric again this went all outside the normal procedures cuz what have you ever heard of anybody

in America being executed a week after they were convicted like it's literally no never never happened and they all

they all went on the same day it was just like one after the other after the other after the other which had to be

like a super creepy work day for those jailers um they had all written out

letters to loved ones um I couldn't find any actual last words and really like

reading some of the letters most of them were pretty sad like it was just a lot of like longing for a different life and

a different outcome it's until you get to Edward curling what he wrote to his wife so so

he wrote to he wrote The Following to his wife this is all in quote Marie my wife I am with you to the last minute

this will help me to take it as a German even the heaven out there is dark it's raining our graves are far from home but

not forgotten Marie until we meet in a better world may God be with you my love

to you my heart to my Country Hill Hitler you're ad always it was just like

come on man like you you really had to put the hill Hitler there I mean he's on his way out at Le who

knows I mean my thing is like you don't have to be a scum back to the end like you I don't know whatever yeah no no no

it's not great so for burger and dash F actually dies three years after all this

happens on April 12th 1945 and his successor Harry S Truman He didn't Harbor the same resentment for them ftrr

hated these guys I don't know what it was but he really hated these guys but Truman didn't actually feel that way

these are the like I think I just think it's wild that they got here I don't know like I just think wild

maybe I'm not thinking about it that way I mean just like they got all the way here do you know how [ __ ] pissed I'd

be at the Navy that they got all the way here at the Coast Guard that's true that's true I was thinking about I was

thinking about in the context of like September 11th but at the same time those people

weren't dropped off by a uboat UB boots yeah if there's a ubo that makes

it all the way to Long Island I'm gonna be [ __ ] pissed you want to know what's even funnier I have friends who

have mansions on Long Island I'm FDR my friends with Mansions Long Island where they're going to do walk into my friends mansion house you have friends who have

mansions on Long Island and that was me being FDR that yeah I have friends yeah

was going to say we got to hang with your friends you know you what's even funnier is that this whole trip started with them flying through France and

apparently that one of these guys got [ __ ] [ __ ] hammered and started talk about how he's a spy going to America

like like all this was like close to getting derailed almost immediately when they left training in Germany after

those three weeks so um the fact that they got this far actually a good point yeah I could see why he'd be so upset

but I'd be pissed um my dad will sometimes be like oh I'm I got recruited by the military to

like go to the Middle East and just like mess with people so I'm going to like walk when there's no when the don't walk

signs up and like you know park it Park in a No Parking Zone and just like you know mess with the culture make people

feel uncomfortable uhhuh be a minor annoyance

yes uh so so Harry Truman like again he did not Harbor this resentment for them

so in 1948 he actually granted clemency on the condition that dashen bger I mean

the other six were dead right so at this point he only has dashen Burger to deal with he was like look guys just go home

never come back again and we'll we'll be good so they did that but it their later life wasn't really

that well documented what we do know is that they were very much shunned in Germany as Traders um Burger started

making and selling tools um to get by and he ultimately died in 1975 Dash

actually seemed yeah which like this one's even more woy so Dash kind of seem

to have a sadder life since he was kind of the orchestrator of all this he was a lot more of like a public face for the scrutiny that they all received and so

he ended up having to move from City to city like constantly once people in the city knew who he was um he wouldn't die

until 1991 wow yeah yeah so that's kind of

that's kind of almost where it ends except for the fact that that in

2010 utility workers were doing something at a

Wastewater facility in Washington DC and they stumbled on a monument that

was dedicated to the executed agents it had their names in the dates they were

executed and it had the inscription of nsw pp which was believed to stand for

the Nationalist socialist white people's party which is the American Nazi

party and this just came right back to life of

like what's going on with what happened and the all the stuff going on around like the the the trial and everything

else long story short as a Park Service decided that it was going to just remove this and store it somewhere this thing

had been out there presumably for 50 60 years and nobody had stumbled on it and

that's weird yeah super random but it was in really weird spot nobody ever went there um and it is thought that

that was the burial ground of the six that were executed um wow so yeah I

wrote down um I wrote down thoughts on maybe who I would cast for this but I can't even think of who I would cast for

this it's so it's so their photos I'm going to share a couple of them but you

just see them just like and also like these guys are very German they're not like like what's the

movie with Brad Pit were like he's killing Nazis what's it called um Eng

glorious bastards yeah like so remember the partner in glorious basts where they find out that that guy is the is the Spy

because of the way he does the number three yes yes so I knew that immediately because as you know I've studied German

for a really long time and I knew that that is how I knew that that was wrong the second he did it I was like oh my

God he's [ __ ] and then like he got [ __ ] and like whatever like these guys aren't even trying to like not walk on the shore with your

Nazi uniform you know well the the thing is like being I mean there's a lot of

Germans like we just the person this was named after Pistorius like I said like he there's like a German Town in

Pennsylvania there's a lot of Germans there but these were um yeah I'm looking

at the curling Guy the one who wrote hell Hitler in his last letter to his wife because just for the record the

reason I called that one out none of the other ones who wrote letters to loved ones said hail Hitler yeah

yeah that's they're all like I'm really sad I brought so much shame to my

family you know like that's how they framed it not like going proud The Dark Knight I know I'm on the well that's

weird though but like why so did curling want

he didn't want to defect the United States who wanted to defect the United stat United States it was Dash and bur

well Dash is the one who started all this okay he had to go back to Germany yeah him and burger did yeah doesn't

seem fair yeah yeah and and well that's why they were Outcast is because they

were like you [ __ ] your fellow fellow Germans over to save

yourself and I mean Dash does look like a weird Skeleton Man he doesn't not look like a Nazi it's

funny Burker and um Hinrich Han they look like

they could be siblings they do theal also there's that gu theal helped um let

me just screenshot this entire page and I'll put this in our things because this is in um I get all these pictures from

the creative commment so they're all like unlicensed because they're old you know um so I'm just going to screenshot

the whole thing to show you but I did yeah yeah I mean God also like how long was that trip I'm really

really fixing on the fact that they got here like how long does it take to get to America on a ubo from

Germany how long was it just a four of them on that like a tiny OT was no no it

was it was big dropped off yeah it was a naval operation okay so when when the

one when the one was beach for a while there were like people in it being like

[ __ ] dude but that's what's funny about it yes like like it's so Monty Python

it's like what what your Beach like what are you talking like you just dropped off a a gang of Nazis and now you're

just like it's so weird I know it sounds so implausible that's

wild these guys let's see what midney gives us it didn't give me anything you

know what it gave me I did just the operation Pistorius and it gave me like a

UFO well you I no no I just want to see what it said and just that and then I

did soldiers taking on to a beach in Florida from a submarine that has beached in the sand and those are pretty

good people were so crazy back then you just have to have like a lot of

guts to do that yeah I mean he lasted two days so I don't know how much guts to took you're

stupid but like it was in the grand scheme it

wasn't a bad idea like if you're trying if you're [ __ ] if you're Hitler this is like the part of where I

was like I always thought Hitler was some like military genius you know and you

read about this you're like oh you just did a lot of really like these were known bad

ideas but also they're moves of desperation right like if he didn't have to go into Russia I doubt he would have

broken his pack with Stalin and gone into Russia like that's a he's he had to have known at least as much that that

was bad move yeah did you watch downfall no should I in German it's so

good is it really okay yes it is so intense but it

really I mean like it shows how like crazy he was getting and it shows like some of the people that were around him

were like still like weirdly believing it

until like the very very end and then some people were like trying to escape and Berlin's just like getting attacked it's just like so so like what's her

name like Hitler's girlfriend is like having parties still she's trying to like Eva Brown act everything is normal

and then like I know that like the Geral family killed all their

kids but their's and then like each other there's a yes so they have like seven kids right there's a scene in

downfall where FRA gbls the wife of GBL obviously there's like seven kids in a

bunker so in like bunk beds and at night they're all sleeping so first she goes to Hitler and she's like quit don't quit

and he's like get her off of me like whatever she like it's a True Believer then she goes and she takes all her children are sleeping she takes cyanide

pills puts them between their teeth and then pushes their heads together and cracks the pill and kills all of them

seriously it's so intense I'm just like I know she's bad like I know they're bad people but like watching someone kill

all of their children just like systematically killing all of them was like so so super intense it definitely

it's crazy that's not you know okay this kind to Pro sound bad

but uh Hitler was a great super

villain yes for sure I mean obviously like like I mean it's not that he did

anything good but he definitely was like man if he Galvan like he brought the

entire world like together and galvanized an entire world and like became this like we're never going to

see a Villain Like That again I don't think I don't think we're ever going to have a super villain like like he's he's it like he went down in history um

that's crazy gr's wife killed their kids in the bunker is in

downfall this is like you know what H I know what happened historically but like watching this person do it is so

wild oh I should watch that it's actually free on peacock apparently yeah you should watch it it's good it's also

the movie where like remember like 10 years ago they were like putting

captions over it where he was like yelling other things do you remember that Trend yes it like so so like other

people who made downfall were mad about it but it was like you didn't get the right pizza he's like screaming and like pointing at the maps it's terrible oh

this is wild wow okay yeah into yeah I wanted to watch it and I was like I've

seen so many of those memes I thought I'd just start laughing but um whoever whoever whoever that guy is plays the

absolute perfect Hitler he's really really good at it and I also think it's

wild how like Germans

are make are in the that movie but like their grandparents were in World War II

yeah you know like they're like in it so quickly

afterwards it movie came out in 2004 I mean it's 60 years like no I know but

like if dude time is so crazy Taylor 60 like

like 80 years ago Hitler was a thing I know that's 100

years 100 years before that slavery was a thing like it's crazy like like I was

in Japan the other day taking a sushi making class hosted by a Japanese woman

and it was me and Juan two Americans and the rest of the people there were Austrian and German and I'm like 50

years 60 years ago we were AC trying to kill each other and now I'm like learning how to make sushi this like

apartment in Tokyo with you guys it's so weird it's so weird yeah yeah history history is

wild yeah um anyways that's my fun little that's super fun today I think

yeah I think H I would have loved hated to be in the room when fgr found out about

that like what what what what happened wait Long Island thrown a martini glass

across the room and you would have been scared it would have been [ __ ] great someone call Elanor and get her in here

he's he's he's lost it get her in here he's freaking out um yeah I love I love

it dude this guy who played Hitler Bruno gance like he's he didn't have the mustache and he looks like

Hitler even without the mustache he like pulls off Hitler oh that's so funny

anyways um cool and you want to read out before we cut it um I put this on our

Instagram but my friend Agnes is coming uh on Wednesday to hang out but she bought me Wisconsin death trip which no

one had bought me until now remember I talked about that a couple episodes ago it's so cool it's like all these like

pictures of like old timey people and then like little stories from the

paper um that are just like really fun and weird do you hear that I heard a little

weird noise what was that here look audience won't know oh my God there's so many dogs in your

house they're just losing it this one's trying to climb you while the other one's trying to bite the other one

a anyways anyway thank you Agnes for Wisconsin death trip I will see you in a couple days I guess I'll see you today

because you're coming on the day this gets released and um if anyone else has any fun ideas we are talking histories

most epic disasters and notorious failures send us an email dunod

gmail.com Taylor you're getting good at that well it's been 115 episod 115

episodes I know that I'm gonna be we're gonna figure we're gonna figure this [ __ ] out I'm on Tik Tok now every day

I've been Tik tocking for four days in a row I'm gonna keep going and uh yeah sweet um we'll go

ahead and cut it off thank you Taylor thank you [Music]