Olympics Part 2! 1906 - 1950! We're going to talk about some of the events leading up to the biggie - the 1936 Berlin Olympics. When Germany was picked to host the Olympics, it was 1931, and Germany was a VERY different Germany. In 1936, Hitler was Chancellor for three years, and he could not wait to show everyone how great Aryans were at everything. Except, that's not the case. We'll talk about the US teams winning in Basketball & Crew - and we'll, of course, talk about the GOAT, Jesse Owens. We are following the Olympics like hawks getting ready for Paris! There are SO many Track & Field events! Which are your favorites?
Olympics Part 2! 1906 - 1950! We're going to talk about some of the events leading up to the biggie - the 1936 Berlin Olympics. When Germany was picked to host the Olympics, it was 1931, and Germany was a VERY different Germany. In 1936, Hitler was Chancellor for three years, and he could not wait to show everyone how great Aryans were at everything. Except, that's not the case. We'll talk about the US teams winning in Basketball & Crew - and we'll, of course, talk about the GOAT, Jesse Owens.
We are following the Olympics like hawks getting ready for Paris! There are SO many Track & Field events! Which are your favorites?
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Americans should ask not what their country can do for them,
>> Taylor: In the matter of the people of state of California versus Orenthal James Simpson, case number ba zero nine six. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not.
>> Farz: What your country can do for you.
>> Taylor: Ask what you can do for your country.
>> Farz: Bim.
Taylor: Happy Wednesday. Nice, smooth, easy week so far
We are back. Taylor. Happy, happy Wednesday.
>> Taylor: happy Wednesday.
>> Farz: Nice, smooth, easy week so far. Hopefully it's been. Been, easy for all of our listeners as well. And for you, Taylor, I mean, they're.
>> Taylor: All exactly the same.
>> Farz: They're exactly the same. I know. This is our life. Taylor, are you going to be introducing us because you fired me from that role.
>> Taylor: Welcome, friends, to doomed to fail. We're the podcast that brings you, twice a week, history's most epic disasters and notorious failures. I am Taylor, joined by Fars Farsitive. Doing well.
>> Farz: I'm doing well. is Juan, like, revising and writing scripts on this or.
>> Taylor: He needs to be.
>> Farz: I mean, he's the one with the opinion.
>> Taylor: So tell your friends. yeah, yeah.
We are going to talk about the Olympics between the beginning and 1950
Anyway, it's my turn today.
>> Farz: It's your turn. Are we going to do a guessing game or is it going to be futile?
>> Taylor: well, I told you I was going to do last week because I'm doing a four part series, Olympics. We're in part two.
>> Farz: Thank you.
>> Taylor: Part two. so we are going to talk about the Olympics between the beginning and 1950. And a lot of stuff happens. And I read several books this week. I have a lot of articles in the notes, but the two books that I read, one of them was called games of the true story of the first Us Olympic basketball team. And then I, I read triumph, the untold story of Jesse Owens and Hitler's Olympics. I also. Not for this, but in the last couple years, I have read a book called Hitler's American, the United States and the making of nazi race law. So I'm going to talk about that a little bit. And then I have some articles as well that I read. So, we will kind of get to all of that. I kind of go back and forth in this story. I'm not sure how organized I am, but it's super interesting.
Last week we talked about the ancient Olympics, how you get an Olympics
So let's talk about it last. To recap, last week we talked about the ancient Olympics, how you get an Olympics and some stuff to prep for the Olympics this year. Have you seen more olympics news since then, fars? Is it like in your algorithm now?
>> Farz: It is not. it is not. Luckily, luckily, the. My overlords have not discovered this.
>> Taylor: Well, hopefully we'll get there. So we're going to go to Germany to Hitler's Germany, specifically for the 1936 Olympics. And before that, let's talk about other things that happened up until 1936. So, as we learned, the Olympics were sort of restarted at the very, very end of the 18 hundreds. And there were a couple, they were tied to, like, world's fairs and trying to get it to, be popular again. In 1906, the Olympic games were held in Athens. They're not officially recognized as Olympic games now because of, like, some rule thing that I don't understand. But they were more organized than the other ones and got people kind of to be like, okay, we actually can do this every four years, you know, and what?
>> Farz: No. Sweet.
>> Taylor: Sweet. So a couple of things that we know that we, like. Well, we. People who have seen the Olympics and, like, remember parts of it that you kind of, like, think have always been there. One thing is this one, in 1906, started the parade of nations. So do you know what that is? Everyone walks in together. so Greece will always start and the host nation always ends, and everything else is in alphabetical order. So to just sidetrack about that tradition. So someone will, every country has someone carry the flag. And in the beginning, you would. When you passed the host city's leaders, like the people in charge of the host committee, the president, whatever, the people in charge of the country, you would diphthere your flag. So one person's carrying your country's flag, you would dip the flag. That is something that almost immediately stopped happening, because in, like, the early 19 hundreds, there was. There were games in London, and an irish american person was a flag holder, and he was like, fuck you, England. And he did not dip the flag to the king. He's irish, obviously, like, a lot of animosity between those folks. So and then, so they kind of stopped doing it. And so you kind of don't see. You don't really see that anymore. There's also an Olympic salute, which is raising your right hand kind of off to the side, but it looks a lot like a nazi salute.
>> Farz: Sounds like a sick hill.
>> Taylor: Like, almost exactly. So they stopped doing that in the, 1940s because they were like, yeah, this looks a little bit too much like the Hitler salute. We don't want anyone to do that. So now you just kind of, like, walk by and, like, maybe wave, maybe have your hands over your heart, something like respectful. But you don't do any sort of, like, special salute. In the 1912 Olympic games were held in Stockholm. And the big thing there, Jim, Thorpe won gold medals in both the pentathlon and the decathlon, he was stripped of his medals due to the amateur rules, but he got them awarded post human, post death in 1980. 319. Twelve was also the first time they used electric timing to start timing things so things can get a little bit more accurate because people are winning by, like, speaking of, like, measurements by, like, tenths of a second, you know, so they're. In 1920, they were in Antwerp, and this was the introduction of the Olympic flag, which is those five rings that we see all the time, and the first Olympic oath. So every Olympics, one athlete will take an oath on, behalf of everyone. It's basically like, I'm gonna be a good sport and try my best, and blah, blah, blah. Great. That was. That still happens. That happened in 1920.
>> Farz: Was the flame around at this point?
>> Taylor: Not yet. Good question. So, in 1924 was the debut of the Winter Olympics. So they were held separately, but, it's the first time, like, figure skating was in the Summer Olympics. It was kind of like figuring that out. In 1924, there was a man named Pavo Normie, who was the flying Finnish from Finland, who won five gold medals in track and field, which was like a huge, So he became, like, really famous from that. in 1928 in Amsterdam was the first time women were allowed to compete. So before this, just been. Just been dudes. So now women are allowed to compete. And this is when the Olympic flame is, introduced.
>> Farz: Sorry, what year?
>> Taylor: 1928.
>> Farz: Got it.
>> Taylor: And the Amsterdam games in, 1932, the games were in Los Angeles. And another person, ah, a woman named Mildred Zaharias, she won two gold medals. That was a big deal. it was obviously, 1932 was the Great Depression, so the games, they actually did a really good job organizing them, and it was the first time they built an Olympic village for the athletes. And so that was, like, something that Los Angeles was credited for. So those are just some, like, fun facts about things that happened at the other Olympics. I'm sure there's, like, inspirational stories, but we're not gonna have time for that, but I'm sure they exist.
This was the first time that the Olympics were televised live
So, 1936, we are in Berlin. This is what we're gonna talk about for the most part today. Some of the fun facts is this was the first time that the Olympics were televised live. So this is like a new, a new technology. It was only, you could only really see it, like, in and around Berlin, but still it was a technology. So, like, there's a story where, like, the athletes are in the Olympic village and they're able to watch the competition, and that's the first time that it ever happened. People were like, this is happening now. Like, super big deal.
>> Farz: That it was like, just for context, 50 years after the first time we can televised Olympic game in the immediate vicinity where the game is taking place, we launched the Hubble telescope that can take a picture of 250,000 galaxies in deep space and show us the origination point of the earth.
>> Taylor: Things are moving too fast.
>> Farz: Crazy. Anyway, go ahead. Sorry.
>> Taylor: I know. You're totally right. and then this was also the first time that the flame was lit in Greece and brought to the host city. So that tradition started here, and they still do that now. So, like, someone in Greece will lay it and they run it all over the world, you know, and then they bring it to the final place.
>> Farz: Did you know?
>> Taylor: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
>> Farz: So is it true, though? Is it really true? Has that really been the same flame for all those years?
>> Taylor: I feel like it's a new flame every time, but it, like, come. But maybe it is the same. It just keeps going. I mean, who would know if it wasn't?
>> Farz: That's true. What are you. DNA test the flame?
>> Taylor: Exactly. What are you gonna do? Like, I feel like someone's probably fallen or, like, dropped it or left it at a bar, you know? I'm sure there is something. My dad told me this story. I don't know if it's true, and I have no sources for this, where, like, a canadian team won the Stanley cup, and they had a party, and the next morning, like, one of the guys, neighbors called him and was like, dude, you left the Stanley cup on the lawn.
>> Farz: I do love the idea of, like, some german runner getting drunk at some beer hall and leaving the Olympic flame there.
>> Taylor: Yeah, I feel like someone didn't. Someone recently dropped, like, the World cup trophy off a bus in the middle of the parade. I think he dropped it, and it was pretty funny.
Berlin got the Olympics in 1931 before Hitler became chancellor
So we're in Berlin again. Berlin got the Olympics in 1931. So we talked about before you get the, okay, to host the Olympics, like, ten to five years before you actually host them. So in 1931, Berlin got the games. And that was a very different Germany than the Germany of 1936. So Hitler became chancellor on January 30, 1933. And the Nazis are now in m power, and they're starting to do. They've done already done a ton of stuff. It's before Kristallnacht, where they destroy just, like, thousands of jewish businesses all over the country. But it is, after the Nuremberg rallies, so people can see that the nazi regime is, like, really, really strong in Germany. And they do, of course, like, every city that hosts the Olympics try to hide their bad things. So they do things like declare the week of the opening ceremonies the week of laughter. They want everybody to just be in a good mood. They hide their anti semitic posters. So they're like, we still believe this, but no one else is going to understand. So let's, like, take these posters down. They send, thousands of romani people to concentration camps. They send unhoused people to jail. They are just like, you know, cleaning up the streets any way that they can. And again, like, everybody who hosts the Olympics, they always do this. so they're also, like, very, very obviously prepping for war. So they're like, oh, no, no, no. We're super cool. We just are like, Germany, whatever, no big deal. But people are getting there to compete in the games, and they're like, are they building tanks next door? Because they totally are. It's very clear that they're prepping for war, that they're going to instigate something big, but they're trying to hide it. they brought back banned books, which is ridiculous, but they, like, have them back on the shelves for a little bit. So people don't realize that what is happening. And some big concentration camps have just opened. Sachsenhausen just opened. So nobody ever didn't know that this stuff was happening, but they were, like, trying their best to hide it. a little bit of just history is that eventually 30 people who had won olympic medals from around Europe were killed in concentration camps eventually because they were jewish. One really good. A couple examples. Just so sad. A young man, they're all very, very young, named Bronisov Chek. He was an alpine jumper from Poland. He died in Auschwitz. Victor Perez was a french boxer. He died in the walk out of Auschwitz in 1945. He was only 33. But while they were in the concentration camps, they would make him box other people, even though he was, like, an Olympian, you know, and, like, make him hurt people for, like, their sport. Bronze law check. They offered him, clemency if he would coach the german high jumping or alpine jumping team. And he said no. So he ended up dying there as well, which is.
>> Farz: I mean, I probably would have done it. My prize is not worth that much.
So we're going to focus on the 1936 Summer Olympics
>> Taylor: So we're going to focus on the 1936 Summer Olympics because that's the big one. But there was a 1936 German Olympics. It was in Garmish part in Germany from February 6 to February 16. It was the only Winter games that have ever been held in Germany. It was the last one before the war. It was really militarized. So by the time the Summer games happen, there will be less military. So, like, in the first Winter games, they had, like, everyone was wearing their uniforms. Like the SS was there. Hitler Youth were all wearing their uniforms. So they really, it was really intimidating and scary and people were like, they said it and they saw it. So by the time the Summer Olympics happen, they're a little bit less militarized. Like, they just, like, they're not, but they look a little bit less. So, like, the Hitler youth get to wear like, later Hosen instead of their terrifying uniforms just to like, kind of balance it and look less scary.
>> Farz: It's kind of more scary when they're not wearing the uniform. It's like when, like, a kid is evil and it's like, hm. The fact that they're a kid and don't look evil is what makes it more scary.
>> Taylor: And like, also, I don't know. Have you, you've been to Germany?
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: Everyone looks the same.
>> Farz: I, think even now.
>> Taylor: But you don't know. Not you. At least you can. Everyone German is tall and blonde. Like, they look the same.
>> Farz: They kind of engineered it that way, though.
>> Taylor: Exactly. So, like, they, like, this is like, going there and seeing everybody like, being like, we're super happy. You'd be like, okay. Like, you're very. You're really stressing me out. And german children, especially in this time. so some of the, some other just facts about those Winter Olympics. there were 28 countries that participated. It was Liechtenstein's first time. And everything, like, kind of went okay, but everything was covered in swastikas. People were a little bit creeped out. So that there was.
>> Farz: But they creeped out. They didn't know what that meant at that time.
>> Taylor: They did. They knew, like, they didn't. They knew that they were, like, persecuting jewish people. They knew that they were, you know, fascists. Like, they knew those things. And then they, like, saw the way that they were acting, you know, like it was creepy and weird.
>> Farz: Has there ever been a time when a political symbol being used or by a country was a good thing?
>> Taylor: I don't know.
>> Farz: I can't think of a single time.
>> Taylor: When you get, like, national. I know that Ben Franklin wanted our national bird to be a turkey. Did you learn that in elementary school?
>> Farz: That's a little different. That would be cute.
>> Taylor: Instead of a bald eagle, that would.
>> Farz: Have been very cute.
>> Taylor: in super troopers two, farva shoots a bird and it like, falls out and they go far. That's a bald eagle. It's, like, really funny.
>> Farz: Well, I'm thinking, okay, so the hammer and sickle, that was the communist symbol. And that within the national flag of the USSR, the swastika, was a nazi symbol that became the national flag of German. Like, I don't think it's ever been a good thing.
>> Taylor: And so, actually, I wrote this down later, but let me skip to it because we looked this up last night. Juan asked a good question.
The current german flag was adopted after World War one
So, last night, Juan and I were watching a movie that I'm going to tell you about in a little bit. But, so the current german flag is three colors. It's black, red and gold, like, three bars. That flag was, adopted after World War one because you'll remember that, like, Germany is just newly unified. So before World War one, it barely had time to be a country. Before World War one happened, it was like a bunch of little principalities or whatever, and then it became one thing. So that was a german flag. Then when the Nazis came into power, they changed it to black, white, red. So they're colors, but still the three bars. And then it just became the swastika, that we all know, like, the red with the white circle and the swastika, and that became Germany's flag. And then after World War I wrote, then they just said, fuck it, it's a swastika. That's like, they made it that. And then after World War two, it went back to where it had been. That's what it is today.
>> Farz: Interesting. Well, I guess, yeah, given how new a country it was, nobody's attached to the flag at that point. Like. Yeah, like, whatever. Making a swastika, who cares? I mean, it's not good still.
>> Taylor: I also follow a, Instagram account called old Hollywood swoon. And they always talk about how handsome captain von Trapp is from sound of music. Have you seen Sound of Music?
>> Farz: Guess the answer to that.
>> Taylor: I don't know. You surprised me. So there's a part where he gets home from his honeymoon in Austria, and they have put nazi flags up on his house, and he takes them down and tears them up. And then the Instagram account is always like, girls only want one thing, and it's Captain von Trapp. like, tearing up a nazi flag.
>> Farz: Wait, was it was Donald Sutherland, this guy?
>> Taylor: No.
>> Farz: Oh, okay.
>> Farz: No.
>> Taylor: anyway.
>> Farz: Anyway, he's a real person.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Where the sound of music's a real story.
>> Taylor: Yes.
>> Farz: Okay.
>> Taylor: I went, yeah, we can talk about this later. I know a lot about the sound of music. But yes, the von traps are real. and Captain von Trapp, he did a thing in world War one where, like, he killed a lot of people in a submarine. And there's a couple, like, things about his past that are interesting that we can talk about later. We're in the summer olympics now. There's swastikas everywhere. Some of the stuff that happened in the background is Hitler's obviously, like, super excited to have arians win everything because that's his philosophy. Deal.
>> Farz: Yeah, he's kind of known. He's kind of known for this.
>> Taylor: Yeah, that's his thing. And so it's fun to be like, we really showed him because we have, some, you know, black people from America won a bunch of events, and, like, that's great, but we have to remember, and we'll talk about this a bunch, that in America, Hitler was literally looking at the way that we segregated race as a model for what they were going to do in Germany. They obviously went further, but that was like, it was. He knew that that was, like, America had no moral ground to stand on when there's segregation and horrible inequality in America.
>> Farz: Right.
>> Taylor: In 1936, you know, so there were, like I said, black and jewish athletes on the american teams, but it wasn't, like, easy for them to get on there. And they were treated differently. Some of them didn't go out of, you know, people knew what was going on in Germany, and people would say, like, don't go, we should boycott this. And then some of them were like, let's show them that we can do this, you know? So there's, like, one jewish person on the us basketball team, and, like, he was very brave to go, you know, but he was like, we have to show them, like, we're not. We are athletes. And all in all the things, the. It's all amateurs, like, like we said, before, but, there are, like, amateur leagues that people are in, and if you're like, there are a couple ways to get in. If you're really, really good going to get, like, sponsored and be able to get in. If you are, like, oak, if you're rich, you can also get in. You know what I mean? Like, if you're rich and you have the time to, like, practice and do all the things, you'll be able to get in. So in Germany, they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. If you're a member of an amateur club, you can be in the Olympics. Like, we're not discriminating against anyone, but, like, no jewish person could join the amateur clubs. So it was like, they just, like, didn't say that, you know? But obviously, there's no jewish people in there. 49 countries were in the Olympics. Around 4000 athletes competed. The Soviet Union didn't go. I feel so bad for athletes when there's, like, even, like, the one that was moved for Covid or when they, like, their country decides to boycott it. Because, like we said last week, like, you train your whole life for this, like, one thing. And if you. For the four years difference is huge.
>> Farz: Yeah. Like, you're not gonna be the same person when you're, like, 28. That, you will be when you're 32.
>> Taylor: Yeah. So. So, you know, some. Some people did. Did boycott. But let's talk about some things that happened before we talk about some of the other stories.
Taylor: The biggest question was who was going to do the nazi salute
So there were the opening ceremonies, obviously, which is like, the big pomp thing. And the biggest question was, like, who was going to do the nazi salute because Hitler was there. And, you know, in the book I read, it talks about, like, you could tell when Hitler was coming because people were, like, losing their fucking minds on the street. You know, like, hundreds of thousands of people, like, giving the Nazis salute. Salute. So excited to see him in the arena. They're so excited that he's there. And so who is going to salute him and who isn't? Most countries didn't. some of them did. Like, obviously, like, Japan did the nazi salute. The Bulgarians fucking loved it. And they stepped it up and did goose steps. They were like, we love you. Like, they were super into it. the US walked by with their hands on their hearts. some of them did the Olympic salute, which was close, but, like, it's easy for them to.
>> Farz: Television. On television in 1936, it'll look the same.
>> Taylor: Exactly. So they were like, oh, no, the Olympic salute. You're like, yeah, whatever. So there was a lot of. A lot of that happening. also, the Hindenburg was there, which is kind of fun. The Hindenburg flew over a couple times. so all of this is being recorded by Leni Riefenstahl. Have you ever heard of her?
>> Farz: No.
>> Taylor: Okay, so I wrote, this bitch deserves her own episode because. And I will probably talk about her maybe next year on women's History Month. Cause she's so interesting. But she was a german filmmaker, and so she made the movie the triumph of the will, which is about the Nuremberg rallies, like, the big nazi rallies. And she made a movie called Olympia about the Olympics. So she was Hitler's, like, documentarian. And she got to live to be 101. Like, she got off. She was at Hitler's house, good friends with him and making this propaganda for him, and she got to live to be 101, which I think is absolutely bullshit. And I did read a book called Hitler's furies about the women in his circle. And then another one that pisses me off is Ilsa Koch. She was, the bitch of Buchenwald. She was just a terrible, terrible, terrible person. And she died by suicide in the 1960s. Fuck her to the moon and back. So fuck Leonard reefing stall. But I did watch her movie last night on YouTube. You can see it.
>> Farz: was triumph of the will.
>> Taylor: No, I watched Olympia. I think I've seen parts of triumph of the will, but I watched Olympia, which is the one that she made. So there's stories of her running around with her cameras, fighting with gerbils, trying to make sure that she could see everything recorded. The opening ceremonies, the first, like, ten minutes are like this really weird artsy thing with, scarves in the air and the acropolis and all these things. And then she has, some of the athletics in there. So she. There's no way to understand how excited the Germans were about this. So nobody understand, underestimate, or underestimate. But they were so excited about this. And so the movie shows them, in the streets and in the crowds, just, like, being super excited. another fun thing is they let out hundreds of birds at the end and they pooped on everyone, which is hilarious, predictably. but if you do watch it, I'll put the link to the YouTube version I watched. There's a bunch of them, but at a minute, 58 is when you can see Jesse Owens doing the. Doing the long jump that we'll talk about. But that's what you'll want to see after this episode. That's where you want to go.
>> Farz: Taylor. Lenny.
>> Farz: Thank you.
Um, she has a website that's still up and active
she has a website that's still up and active, and the homepage looks like a Nazis site. Like the font and the colors and everything. Look it. But then if you click on her biography, just shows all these pictures of her being, full. Awesome. Having a great life. There's pictures of her with Mick Jagger for some reason. Yeah.
>> Taylor: Can you believe that? She, like, saw September 11?
>> Farz: There's her with those two tiger guys. What are their names?
>> Taylor: Siegfried and Roy.
>> Farz: Thank you. Yeah, she lives a great life. I mean, not a well lived life.
>> Taylor: No. But it is absolute bullshit that she got off. Yeah, totally. I definitely want to talk more about her later. so there are several black people there. there were other black, especially track and field folks on the, us teams, and I'll talk a little bit about them later. oh, one more thing. Oh. In 1955, re finish doll agreed to remove some Hitler from her movie so she could have it, screened in the museum of modern Art in New York. Like, I hate her. Oh, guess who else was there? the Nazi, Charles Lindbergh was there. And he sat next to goering the whole time and talked about the air force.
>> Farz: Wait, the actual Lindbergh was there?
>> Taylor: Yeah, yeah, because he was, like, an American, but he was obviously also a Nazi, which we've mentioned in passing before. So he was super excited to be there and meet with, especially goering, who was in charge of the, german air force. Yeah. so that's opening ceremonies. Another thing to note is Hitler's plan was for the next one. The 1940 Olympics were planned to be in Tokyo, and then after that, they would just all be in Germany, of.
>> Farz: Course, because they would win everything.
>> Taylor: Right? Like, that would. They would be in Germany for, you know, the thousand years of the Reich or whatever. also to note these stadiums that they built in 1936. Later, they would be the places where they would do mass shootings. You know, like, as the world was ending, as, like, their world was crumbling, they would do, like, last minute shootings in there. the. I read a book about basketball. Cause there's, like, a big basketball story here that I'll tell you about. But the Nuremberg. After the Nuremberg trials, the people who were hung, they were, It was on a basketball court. So it's like, basketball became, like, a national sport, and it's where, they ended up actually, like, executing a lot of the Nazis on basketball court, which is just creepy. Interesting. Yeah.
So let's talk about the us team. They got there in kind of a roundabout way
So let's talk about the us team. So the United States team, again, they're amateurs. They got there in kind of a roundabout way because Olympics is pretty new, but, like, track and field is actually pretty popular people. Like, no good track and field people. So other sports are starting to get more popular. And the teams would qualify, but then, like, not have enough money to get to New York because they had to take a boat from New York to Europe. So they would do things like fundraise in their communities to be like, you know, we need $1,000 to get this basketball team all the way over to New York City. there were qualifiers on Randalls island, which is right next to Astoria, Queens, like, on the Triborough bridge, and, the swimming trials were in a pool in Astoria, Queens, that I used to live right next to Juan and I lived right next to this pool. It was like a beautiful outdoor pool and it had, like, a diving area and, like, an Olympic sized pool. And it would be open in the summer for people to go in and swim. That was built specifically for. For that. During the, qualifiers on Randalls Island, President Roosevelt was there to help kick them off. And also, a young boy from Queens named Anthony Benedetto sang at the, at the opening of the Olympic trials in 1936. And later he would be Tony Bennett.
>> Farz: No way.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Wait, what was his name?
>> Taylor: Anthony Benedett. Anthony Benedetto.
>> Farz: That's so cute.
>> Taylor: Isn't that cute? So he. He was nine years old and. No, he just died, like, last year. I just looked it up. Yeah. but he. I saw him sing one time, but he was. I mean, obviously it was insane. but, yeah, I thought that was fun. This little italian boy from Queens. so the us team, once everybody qualified, like, you know, whatever, they. And they get to New York to go to Europe, they take a ship called SS Manhattan from New York City. So once on board, they had a ton of food. And that's something that they talk about in every book I read. Like, the food was really good. They had a bunch of drinks. Jesse Owens was a little bit seasick, so he didn't eat a lot. one fun story. There's a woman swimmer named Eleanor Holm. She seems fun. She got kicked off the team for being drunk every night. And she was like, even drinking, I'm going to beat every world record. Like, what is wrong with you? And she said, quote, this chaperone came up to me and told me it was time to go to bed. God, it was about 09:00. And who wanted to go down in the basement and sleep? Anyway, I said to her, oh, is it really bedtime? Did you make the Olympic team or did I? And I had a few glasses of champagne. I, love that for her. so, seems fun. She was married a bunch. She was in movies with another olympian that was there who won the decathlon. she was married to a Hollywood guy. This is later. Just a fun side. And she got divorced. And her, alimony was $30,000 per month, which is equivalent to $340,000 today.
>> Farz: Shit.
>> Taylor: Which is dumb and amazing. so she's great. She's in the swimming hall of fame. She seems fun. At the pier, when the SS Manhattan was going off to Europe, one dude, there's one dude with a sign that was like, don't go. Like, the Nazis are bad. Don't go. But obviously, they went. Once, they got to Germany, there were a bunch of Germans there waiting for them, looking all the same, being really happy to see them. The men got to stay in an Olympic village. That was very nice. And I have pictures of Jesse Owens room. Olympic village is now, like, a museum. but it was very nice. they had chefs that made food from all over the world, which is very interesting that, like, they had german chefs making, like, indian food. You know, like, I'm really impressed with that.
>> Farz: I'm sure it tasted amazing. They said, I'm sure Germans cooking indian.
>> Taylor: Food came out, that Germans, like, they made japanese food. Like, that is pretty impressive that they would, like, bother to do that. the women, of course, were in a shitty dorm with, like, no food, and they slept on straw mattresses. But the men's storm was really nice in the Olympic village.
>> Farz: Fun.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
Hitler allowed one jewish woman to take part in women's foil
So, okay, till exact question. Yes, please ask questions.
>> Farz: Are you going to talk about Helen Mayer more?
>> Taylor: No.
>> Farz: Okay.
>> Taylor: Who is that?
>> Farz: So, when the boycott was being kind of bandied about from other countries, Hitler allowed one jewish woman to take part. Her name is Helen Mayer, and she ended up having to flee the country after.
>> Taylor: I bet she did.
>> Farz: She won silver, and I have no idea what she wants to. It's called women's foil. I don't know what that means.
>> Taylor: I think it's fencing. It says german fencer. That's cool. Good for her. I mean, it's. Yeah, really crazy.
>> Farz: And she.
>> Taylor: Yeah, looks cool.
>> Farz: Because I'm m also, like, do you win or do you lose? Because if you lose, you prove to them that you're not superior. But if you win, you put it in their face that you are superior. What do you do?
>> Taylor: You leave as fast as.
>> Farz: You leave as fast as you can. Exactly. Right.
>> Taylor: Oh, poor thing. She died of cancer. In the future. Yeah. No, there's so many stories of, like, little ones that I'd love to talk about, and I didn't get to that one, but, yeah, that's super interesting. yeah.
This was the first time basketball was in the Olympics
So, okay, I have a couple sports to tell you about basketball. So I read a book about basketball. Cause basketball was, like, relatively new during this time. This was the first time basketball was in the Olympics. James Naismith, who's the dude who invented basketball, he did it similarly to the peer who started the Olympics. Like, he thought that people needed more sportsmanship, more physical activity. He introduced it at a YMCA, and they would bring it around to college campuses. The rules would change a little bit, but essentially, he's a person that, like, invented modern basketball. He, the people on the basketball team played for amateur basketball teams, which, like, they're still playing on, like, a team which seems professional, but whatever. And a lot of them came from the universal pictures basketball, team, which is fun that they had one. And, these were the guys who needed to fundraise and, eventually they would, lose their jobs, and when they came back, there wouldn't be a team anymore. But they did get to go, to do it. the team was entirely white. There was one jewish person on the team. James Naismith actually got to go. So when he got there, no one really knew who he was. And then someone said, he's a guy, invented basketball. And then he got, like, more of a welcome and he got, like, tickets to go see it, but he, he was there. And, the us did win. They won the gold, but they, they played against, like, a bunch of other teams who played it a little bit differently against. It was like, brand new, the way that they had made the ball. They made it have like, stitches, like a football. You can't dribble that because the stitches are in the way.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: You know, the Philip. The team from the Philippines was so good, they considered having a separate category for short people because they were so good, but they didn't stand a chance. And, the final game was in, outside in a flooded field that was, like, covered two inches in mud. And then they had this, like, the ball was, like, totally waterlogged and they had to, like, try to get it to work. And they, the US beat Canada 19 to eight in the final game and won the gold medal.
>> Farz: So right now, if you were, you could put LeBron James against all ten from. Actually put them against every person combined, and you just push it a thousand to 1.1 thousand%.
>> Taylor: Yeah, but it's brand new, which is kind of fun that it's like a brand new sport, pretty, like, pretty much for the world. And then it gets into the Olympics. another thing about boats, George Clooney made a movie called the Boys in the boat. I didn't watch it, but, like, it's like another Olympic feel good movie. It was kids from the University of Washington. They ended up narrowing.
>> Farz: I know this one. Yeah.
>> Taylor: Do you know what I mean? They ended up beating, the Germans and the Italians, which was great, but, that's what happened, I'm sure there's personal struggles in there as well. In the movie that I did not watch.
>> Farz: Doesn't matter. Yeah, the personal struggles of people that have been dead for 100 years don't really matter. Germany's medal count, like, they kind of blew it out of the water. 101 to the Us, which is number two of 57 in 1936. Yeah.
>> Taylor: Nice. Yeah. Probably as.
>> Farz: I mean, home team advantage, that's probably a thing. But I guess what it really boils down to is, like, you don't really care that your country was number one. And again, not to make fun of curling, I know we have a lot of curling listeners out there, but if you win gold and curling, it's not. Nobody's going to care as much if you win gold and, like, figure skating or in, like, gymnastics. Right.
>> Taylor: I. Yeah. And I think it's, like, a matter of percentages, too. Like, of course, like, the United States and China and Russia always have the most medals in all of the Olympics because they have most people, you know, and if you're, like, if zero, zero, 1% of the population is, great at gymnastics, like, you know, that's a lot more people here than it is in France.
>> Farz: Right.
>> Taylor: You know? so, yeah, I think that a lot more athletes, too, just in general, but, like, I think that's on purpose because they were, you know, trying to prove that they won. So. Okay.
Jesse Owens was the fastest man in the world in 1936
The reason that we're here is to talk about track and talk about Jesse Owens. Do you know who Jesse Owens is?
>> Farz: Yeah, of course.
>> Taylor: So my cousin and Juan's cousin both went to the Ohio State University where Jesse Owens went. And, I texted them both, and I was like, is it Jesse Owens stuff at Ohio state that, like, talks about him? And one of the cousins sent me back, said, yes, every single sports thing is named after him, and sent me a website to an archive that has, like, his papers from when he went to Germany, tons of pictures from his life. It's super, super helpful. And then the other cousin said, is that a football thing?
>> Farz: Which made me laugh, which I can almost understand because Ohio State is so up and up its own ass about.
>> Taylor: About football.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: The Ohio State University. I know. yes, Jesse Owens was the fastest man in the world, during. In 1936. Who's the fastest man in the world today?
>> Farz: Still got to be Usain Bolt, right?
>> Taylor: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Have you seen the videos of him, like, slowing down and laughing because he's just so fast.
>> Farz: He stops and does a thumbs up. It's so cool.
>> Taylor: He's so fast. Yes. Usain Bolt is the fastest man in the world right now. Jesse Owens was the fastest man in the world in 1936. And, like, it's a shame that we can't put them in the same circumstances and have them race, you know? Like, if Jesse Owens had access to trainers or even, like, skin tight clothing, you know, what could he have done differently and who would win? Like, all that stuff is really fun to think about. So, James Cleveland Owens was born September 12, 1913, in Alabama. He was the grandson of an enslaved person, and his parents were sharecroppers. They moved to Ohio when he was nine for, like, better opportunities. And when he was in school, his teacher asked him his name, and he said, jc, which is James Cleveland. But she heard Jesse. That's what she wrote down, and that became his name. He didn't, because he had, like, a really thick southern accent, and she didn't understand what he was saying, so he became Jesse. Jesse Owens will always be working besides doing track and besides going to school and besides having a family, he had a ton of jobs his whole life. Well, he was in junior high. He was working to deliver groceries after school. But his track coach, Charles Riley, knew there was something special. Like, saw him running and was like, this is. This is different. And convinced him to run before school. So before school, he would run, he'd go to school, then he'd work all night, just like always, always busy. he met his wife, Minnie Ruth Solomon, when they were in junior high. So they were, like, always together. They had their first child in 1932, and they didn't get married until. Until 1935. But during this time, while he's in high school, he's a new dad. He's working all these jobs. He is breaking records. Like, unbelievable. He equaled the world record in the hundred yard dash in the long jump in 1933 at the national high school championships. In college, he's going to get a whole bunch of other awards I'll talk about in a second. just to note him and Minnie, they get married on July 5, 1935, and they'll be married until his death, so. And he has two more children with her. Do you have a question?
>> Farz: No.
>> Taylor: M. Okay, so he's at Ohio State. He is great, but he doesn't get a scholarship because he's black. You know, like, that's just. He's still, like, fighting against that. The team is a traveling team, but he has to travel separately from everybody else. He can't stay in the same hotels that they stay at, and he can't eat the same food that they eat. Cause there's a lot of places that just, like, literally won't let him in.
>> Farz: Yeah, sorry, the green book situation.
>> Taylor: M so he has a job with a local legislature, he has a job at a gas station, just like a bunch of other jobs. While he's running track, while he's in school, while he's on the traveling team, he goes to LA and is in the papers that he's hanging out with this woman who's like a socialite. And then his wife is pissed, obviously, because she's at home with a baby. And as soon as he gets home, they get married because he was like, sorry. in 1935 and 1936, he won eight gold medals in the NCAA championships, four in each. That record wouldn't be beaten until 2006. So he was just like, winning medals. one of the biggest days in sports was March 25, 1935. During the big ten track meet in Ann Arbor. He set three world records and tied a fourth. So he's like this college kid, just like, literally setting world records. He did a world record for the long jump at 26ft and eight and a quarter inches, which lasts 25 years. He got a gold in the 220 yard sprint, the 220 yard low hurdles, and, like, the way he would run the hurdles wasn't like the right way to run it. He would just like, run really fast and like, kind of hop and, like, do it again. But he was still so much faster than everybody else, that didn't matter.
>> Farz: I do, when I see them do the hurdles and I see them kick their legs up, I'm like, that looks so much harder to do it that way than like, yeah, over it.
>> Taylor: Totally. So he would just like, hop over it, but he was still faster than everybody else. and a lot of those records are actually like double records because, like, 220 yards is like x amount of meters or whatever. So he's just like kicking ass.
>> Farz: Right.
A couple people try to get Jesse Owens not to go to 1936 Olympics
>> Taylor: so now it's time to get ready for the Olympics. Like, he knows that he's going to go and he qualifies. Obviously, pretty easily. A couple people try to get him not to go. Specifically, the NAACP, want. Want the black athletes to boycott it because of nazis. And m the. I know this because I know a lot about the Roosevelt administration, but the president of the NAACP at this time, wrote Owens a letter, but he didn't end up not sending it. But his name is Walter White and that always makes me laugh because I think I'm breaking bad.
>> Farz: Of course.
>> Taylor: Yeah. so, but he is going. He does go. He passed all the trials. Obviously, there's a bunch of other people that are with him. He's on the SS Manhattan with everyone. He was very seasick, the whole time. But he gets there and, like, gets his balance again and is, like, ready to run. there's two conflicting stories I read about shoes. One of them is probably not true that Adi Dassler of Adidas sponsored his shoes, like, gave him shoes. and then another one that he didn't have any shoes, so his coach bought them off the rack for him, just like regular shoes. They didn't have to break them in. That one's probably more true than the other one. he sent the Olympic village his diary. I read that in the Ohio archive. He's having a good time. He's like, the food's good. Everyone's super nice, because that was true. So it's also important to note that he's not the only black person on the team. There are 18 black athletes that go to Germany. I have a link to an article from the United States Holocaust Memorial museum that has some notes on. On them. But, you know, these were all, like, young men, like kids who were going to Europe to win these awards for their country and going home to a segregated America, you know? So, John Woodruff, who won the 800 meters after he got home, he said, quote, after the Olympics, we had a track meet to run in Annapolis at the naval academy. Now here I am, an Olympic champion. And they told the coach that I couldn't run, I couldn't come, so I stayed home because of discrimination. That let me know just what the situation was. Things hadn't changed. Things hadn't changed, you know?
>> Farz: Yeah, it's nuts.
>> Taylor: Nuts. So, against all odds, the Germans are pumped about Jesse Owens because it's just so fast, and they're just, like, really excited to see him, you know? And so Hitler gets pissed because they cheer for him all the time, and Hitler's there, and he's always mad about it. Hitler does greet the first handful of gold medal winners. And I think, like you said, far as a lot of the gold medal winners are german. So the first couple of events, Germans win, he greets them in his box or whatever, and then he leaves before the first black person wins something. And they were like, oh, he's busy, or whatever. And then someone was like, you can't do this. This is a bad look. So he didn't greet anybody else, so he didn't look like he was discriminating. Obviously, he was.
>> Farz: Did he think that only Germans were going to win or only white people were going to win.
>> Taylor: That was the hope. And that was what it would be like. That was his Olympics. His Olympics would be like, white people against white people forever. That was a plan. I know. And so he, There are rumors that he. Wait, he did wave at Jesse Owens when he started winning his medals. He may have. He may have done his little half hile that he does sometimes. Who knows what really happened? But, like, they never met. He never actually shook his hand. Like, they never talked to each other. Jesse Owens did say, quote, Hitler didn't stub me. Stub me. It was our president who stubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram, which is true and fair. Roosevelt didn't send him anything. He should have.
>> Farz: What, FDR?
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Weird.
>> Taylor: so. And then Hitler later was like, oh, he was later. He was like, yeah, we definitely need to ban black people from the future olympics because they have an unfair advantage, because they're closer to living in the jungle, which is exactly something that Hitler would say when he was losing, you know, What an asshole. But you know what I mean? So back to running. Jesse Owens easily qualified for each of the things. So he didn't just run. He did a couple dashes. He did a long jump, and he ended up doing the relay as well. So he made a good friend with a german man named Loose Long. L U Z.
>> Farz: And I'm literally on his Wikipedia page right now.
>> Taylor: Are you so loose long and Jesse Owens were legitimately friends. There's a couple stories. Like, Jesse has said that, Luz helped him with something, but that's probably not true. Like, they probably met after. After the meet. That's.
Jesse Owens wins four gold medals at the 1936 Olympics
This is what, That minute 58 on the Lenny Riefenstahl movie shows them doing the long jump together. And they show, like, Jesse Owens, he. He wins. But there's pictures of them walking arm in arm. And this is, like, a tall man who looks like a Nazi. He's, like, blonde, you know, very german. Yeah, his. I mean, his. Their tracksuits have swastikas on them. I mean, obviously. But, like, it's just wild.
>> Farz: Oh, you can make it out in the picture, but I.
>> Taylor: It's in, like, the middle. Yeah. So Luz and. And Jessie become friends. They would write letters back and forth. after the Olympics, the last letter he sent to Jesse Owens said, can you tell my son about the time that we ran together and people got along? And then Luz was killed in Italy in the invasion of Sicily in 1943. And in the 1960s, Jesse did go back to Germany, and meet with his son and tell him about his father, which is lovely. Yeah. so Jesse Owens wins four gold medals. On August 3, he wins 100 meters dash with 10.3 seconds. On August 4, he wins a long jump. He wins at 26ft, five inches, which is still three and a quarter inches short of his own world record. So he didn't beat himself, but he beat everybody else. On August 5, he won the 200 meters sprint with a time of 20.7 seconds. The second place, silver medalist in that event was Mac Robinson, who was the older brother of Jackie Robinson. So the sporty family, the Robinsons. in August 9, he won his fourth gold medal in the four by 100 meters sprint relay. He, him and another black runner replaced two jewish runners. And it's a little bit of controversy, like, why did he replace them at the very end? Usually they don't put their best one runners in the relay because they were so good anyway that they were going to win no matter what, even if they weren't the very best. But also, then, like, why wouldn't you just put your best runners in the relay? So there's like a whole bunch of back and forth as to why. But either way, he got his four gold medal, and no one would get four gold medals in track until Carl Lewis did in 1984. So he did great in the Olympics, came home with four gold medals and, Yeah. Do you have a question? You okay?
>> Farz: Well, no. I'm like, now, I was actually looking up Usain Bolt, and I mean, like I said before, there's some. Some sports where if you're the best at it, you are set, right? Like, m Usain Bolt's gonna get 50,000 different contracts from shoe companies to cereal, all that stuff. What did this guy get?
>> Taylor: Nothing.
>> Farz: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm like. I'm m like, man, all this, like, for what?
>> Taylor: I'm gonna tell you what he got. He got nothing. Yeah. I mean, today, I think I wrote this down. Everybody be wearing Jesse Owens track shoes. You know, like, it'd be. He'd have all of the endorsements. It'd be a huge deal. but, yeah, no, so, at the end of the Olympics, Hitler was embarrassed that all white people didn't win, which is great because he sucks. but Jesse Owens doesn't, like, have a full time job. He's still in college. So he's in college. During the 1936 Olympics, he goes back to Ohio State, and this whole time he's been in college. There was a semester where he wasn't allowed to be on the track team because his grades were failing. And I'm, Like, when does this man have time to go to class? You know, like, he's a father. He has jobs. He is on the track team, but he also is going to school. after the games are over, he gets sent around Europe to do, like, exhibitions with the team, but he doesn't make any money from that. It's sort of like a way for the American Olympic Committee to, like, make back some of the money they spent, but it doesn't go to the athletes. He does take a few. He gets offered some things, like some big endorsements, but they're all not real. They're just to, like, get in the paper, you know, to be like, oh, we offer Jesse Owens $50,000, but they don't. No one really, like, was going to follow through on that. he does take a couple low level endorsements, which means that the amateur league kicks him out, and now he can't run anymore. Like, he just, like, can't win. Like, there's just no. We're waiting for him. when he gets back to New York, like, literally the day he gets back to New York, him and his wife can't get a hotel room because no one will let him in because he's black. Finally, the hotel Pennsylvania lets them stay, but they have to go in through the service entrance. So he comes home, and this is actually something that I just saw via my algorithm on instagram. But History Channel has a new show that just premiered this week about what happened when he gets back. Because he gets back and he's just a black guy in racist America, you know? Like, it doesn't matter that he was an Olympic hero. he works at gas stations. He would race horses. Like, he would run a track next to a horse. Like, the horse. He'd get, like, a little bit of a head start and just, like, run next to each other. he said, quote, people say it was degrading for an Olympic champion to run against a horse. What was I supposed to do?
Jesse Owens started smoking cigarettes when he was 35 and died in 1980
I had four gold medals, but you can't eat four gold medals. So, he did a lot of work. He had a dry cleaner that failed. He did work at Ford for a while in the civil rights division. he campaigned against President Roosevelt. he filed for bankruptcy in. In 1966 and got in trouble for tax evasion. So he never. He was never rich. He never had a lot of money. Eisenhower sent him around the world as a goodwill ambassador, which is fun. So he became a speaker. And I would talk. He would speak at, like, colleges. He would speak. Ah, he got an honorary degree from Ohio state, I think, later. So he was, like, famous for those things, but it wasn't, like, lucrative. when Jesse Owens was 35, he started smoking cigarettes, and that's what killed him. So he smoked a pack a day from when he was 35 until he died in 1980 of lung cancer. and he is buried in Ohio. And, he died on March 31, 1980. Jimmy Carter said, quote, perhaps no athlete better symbolize the human struggle against tyranny, poverty, and racial bigotry. after he died, so after these Olympics, there wouldn't be another one. the Olympics in 1940 got cancelled. In 1944, it got cancelled. And then the next one would be in 1948 in London. But guess who wasn't invited?
>> Farz: Germany.
>> Taylor: Yep. In Japan.
>> Farz: I mean, I don't feel bad for them.
>> Taylor: I don't either. They were not invited. so I definitely. There's m a bunch of movies about Jesse Owens that look good. the book triumph was really good. It's just so exciting to see someone just be excellent at something and so insane to see them not get Eddie to get treated so terribly when they get home. It's such a big discrepancy. Next week, we're going to go from 1950 to 1980 and talk about stuff that happened, during those Olympics.
>> Farz: so one thing on the Jesse Owens Wikipedia page that I found really fun and interesting is that the movie get out, the girl's dad who played. Oh, God, I forgot his name. He was on, west wing.
>> Taylor: Yeah, Bradley something.
>> Farz: anyways, he's like the bad guy. he apparently said that he lost a qualification round to Jesse Owens in 1936, and that is when he started researching how to replace his brain with the brain of a black person. Crazy, right?
>> Taylor: Yeah. That movie's wild. I should watch that again.
>> Farz: It's pretty good.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Fun. Well, that's. Well, not fun. It's not good. it's wild.
>> Taylor: I mean, I recommend watching Olympia. Just like, having. It's not. Aren't a lot of words in it. It's mostly just like sounds. But watching that, him, Jesse, Owens and Lu Song do the long jump is really cool.
>> Farz: I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah. Looking at the pictures of them, it's, You know, it kind of. Kind of speaks to what you mentioned before to, like, the whole point of. Of the Olympics of bringing people together. And that's kind of how always felt, like on a political level, too. It's like if the people could talk to each other without the governments, then the people would be fine. It's the government's getting the middle of it that causes issues.
>> Taylor: I agree.
>> Farz: And that. That relationship he had with that guy, Louise Long was a good example of that.
>> Taylor: Yeah, that's cute. Sweet.
Taylor: We're down to two more parts in this four parter
>> Farz: So our four parter is down to two more parts.
>> Taylor: Hm.
>> Farz: We're gonna kick this off again next week. And which parts we're getting to next week.
>> Taylor: So I know something happened in 1960s. So I have a book that I'm gonna read. what is it called? It is called. It's about 1960 in Rome. It says, let's see. Have my thing here. Oh, it says Rome, 1960. the Olympics that changed the world. I don't know how it changed the world. I'm going to read that book and tell you. And then I'm also going to talk about the Munich,
>> Farz: Oh, I was going to ask about the Munich one. That movie is amazing.
>> Taylor: I know. I don't think I've seen it, but I think I should. Obviously.
>> Farz: Very, very, very well done. I was Spielberg that did it. It stuck my memory. Like, it was one of those movies that I just. You just like, every now and then are like, what was that memory of? I have? And it's like, oh, yeah, that thing, that movie.
>> Taylor: Yeah. 2005. yeah.
>> Farz: With Spielberg.
>> Taylor: Yeah. something else I wanted to tell you when you were talking about yours is the guy who wrote the book Chernobyl. That was like, what the show was, like, based off of, not like, based off of, but like, that book was, like, used to, like, do the HBO show. Just. Just wrote a new book on the challenger, and I'm on the list to get it.
>> Farz: Sweet.
>> Taylor: from the library. I'm on. I'm on in 14 weeks. I can. I can listen to it. He wrote minda in Chernobyl. Adam Higgins Botham. but I'm excited to read the challenger book because that's crazy.
>> Farz: I would do the spatial ones, but they're so dumb. I mean, it is so not obscure. Like, everybody who's paid any attention knows every detail.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: So I know.
>> Farz: Well, Taylor, thank you for sharing. and we have plenty more olympic news to look forward to in the next two weeks.
>> Taylor: I haven't heard anything about the, hoop in the sun yet. Oh, we almost watched the sun movie last night. I think we'll watch it tonight. The shark one.
>> Farz: It's so stupid. You'll love it.
>> Taylor: I can't wait.
>> Farz: and hopefully by the time we join you again. Those two poor bastards on the international space Station are on their way home.
>> Taylor: Godspeed, godspeed. I wonder what they're doing right now. We have, like, cards. Like, what are they doing? Is there? The two of them?
>> Farz: Nothing. They're just like praying that this all works out.
>> Taylor: I wonder if the Internet speed is up there. If you can download our show.
>> Farz: anyways, anything else to say, Taylor?
>> Taylor: That's it? No. Thank you so much. If you need anything, have any ideas for us, we're at doomdofellapodmail.com. find us on social media, and please, please, please review us on Apple podcasts because that helps people find us. I'm also doing a TikTok every day, and some person was like, I love this. And they downloaded all of our episodes, so we got a huge bump in downloads one day. So that was super exciting. so thanks, person. Continuing to do that forever.
>> Farz: Thank you, person.
>> Taylor: And thanks. Try my best.
>> Farz: awesome. Okay, well, I'll go ahead and cut it off.