This week Farz breaks everyone’s hearts with the tragic death of beloved comic Phil Hartman. Seriously, what a loss for humanity. Don’t kill your spouse! Sheesh. Taylor brings it way back to the year 532 when the Green and Blue chariot teams got into such a brawl that 30,000 people died. There’s other stuff like Emperor Justinian and his wife Theodora - so it is relationship related! We’re also up on Youtube! If that’s where you listen, we’re there! Please subscribe! Follow us on Instagram & Facebook! @doomedtofailpod
This week Farz breaks everyone’s hearts with the tragic death of beloved comic Phil Hartman. Seriously, what a loss for humanity. Don’t kill your spouse! Sheesh.
Taylor brings it way back to the year 532 when the Green and Blue chariot teams got into such a brawl that 30,000 people died. There’s other stuff like Emperor Justinian and his wife Theodora - so it is relationship related!
We’re also up on Youtube! If that’s where you listen, we’re there! Please subscribe!
Follow us on Instagram & Facebook! @doomedtofailpod
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Phil Hartman via Vulture, SNL Wiki, and Amazon.
Justinian and Theodora, and the Hippodrome via the public domain along with the painting of how crazy a chariot race is. Don’t you feel like 4 is too many horses?
Deadly Moments in History - The Nika Riots
Stuff you missed in History class
Blue versus Green: Rocking the Byzantine Empire
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here [ __ ] it up again hi everyone welcome that's her name
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I'm joined here by Taylor Taylor how are you I'm good how are you I'm tired I locked
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myself out of my house last night and I sat there for two hours and 40 degree weather waiting with like no clothes on
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basically waiting for a locksmith which was awesome my dog looked at me she was like staring at me like you
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realize this is stupid right like she literally was giving me that eye she's real embarrassed I bet yeah I was
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gonna ask about the weather like if it wasn't raining I don't know that was a yeah at the very least it wasn't raining
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so that's what I said your phone I did have my phone yeah your phone if I
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didn't get my phone I don't actually know what I would have what would you what do you do like actually I don't
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know walk to a neighbor's house and hope they don't call the police I don't know yeah I guess were you wearing shoes I
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don't know yeah I was wearing shoes that's good at least yeah well I'm glad that you got in and don't do that again
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yeah I'm gonna try my best Taylor did you want to call out the most recent addition to the media channels portfolio
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of the Doom to fail Network oh yes absolutely so I started uploading
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our audio to YouTube so it's just like our picture and then the audio but I
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know that YouTube is a big platform for listening to podcasts so I put everything on on there and are
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episode about Alex Murdock and his him being a murderer uh has 180 or something views already I don't know if people are
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listening to the whole thing it also has two thumbs Downs which I feel like is not necessary and I can't find out who
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in there's another way to listen to it that's super fun and then also we've been hopping on Instagram this week I
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posted something about uh RFK Jr making an exploratory committee and run for
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president and I have several crazy people wrote comments about how he's a great man and a great liberal and
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upholds his family's Legacy and then when I go to their profiles there's one person who's literally their entire
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profile is trying to get chat gbt to confirm that trans people aren't real
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and I'm like grow up that's so dumb what are you doing with your life I wonder if we
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strung the theory together that you use chat GPT I don't know I mean I guess Chevy gbt is pretty powerful so how many
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views did you say we had on the uh don't murder your family I think like 180 I can actually I can look okay we're at
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183 because you messaged me yesterday saying 120 so wait at 8 p.m yesterday my
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time we had 128 and then we went up by 60 as of this morning yeah in like 14
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hours I know I think that's because of some keywords and then also people started watching the other ones so uh
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Traders and terrorists rush into the apocalypse got some views not as many but couple so I don't know many people
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look around so that's exciting well eventually people we know yeah it's definitely not people we know it will
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eventually actually just because we record these as videos so we'll eventually just upload the videos as
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well once yeah we'll get there I need to learn how to edit better as you all already can tell from my radio editing I
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think you do great you taught yourself how to do it in like four minutes so great job so Taylor what is hey first
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off who's going first today is it me yeah I do okay do you want to tell us what you're drinking is in all segue
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into True Crime and Tom what my drink is yeah well for me we're gonna drink we're gonna drink more wine because we're
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going back into ancient times where Hawaiian was like water you just drink wine I don't know if you drink water
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um because we're going to go to the Eastern Roman Empire in Byzantium later so get your red wine out Byzantium love
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it over to you yeah awesome okay I will take things off my drink today is a
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drink y'all probably won't remember because if you're much younger than Taylor and I you won't remember much of
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what I'm going to talk about today the drink is slice soda which if y'all do
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remember it was basically in competition with Sprite and 7UP for the war of the
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lemon flavored sodas which we all remember of course in the 90s of course
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the reason I picked slice is because the pitch man back in the 90s is who I'm
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gonna be discussing he was uh really funny and he calls the cans that they
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come in metallic containers and promotes it by saying if you buy six of them they come with a plastic carrying container
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which of course is the plastic thing that holds the six cans together it's silly it's over the top it's a
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commercial it was legitimately their pitch man but it's also an Acura descriptor of who I'll be discussing today this was probably one of my
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favorite humans we lost in a very very tragic way and I think you'll remember
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this person Taylor this is another one of those people when I found the found out the news that they had passed it was
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a complete kick to the gut I'm going to be discussing today Phil Hartman
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oh yeah
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I love being our age because we understand these kids don't get it
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oh my heart I'm gonna get out of my rocking chair with my Splatoon and straw hat in a minute but so let's go into the
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bio of Phil Hartman and and who he was so Phil was born in Ontario Canada which
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I never knew I didn't know he was Canadian I thought he was one of ours which he clearly is not um his his early life really isn't all
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that interesting he had a ton of siblings the family moved around a bunch that's basically the gist of it
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except there's one weird connection he asked of Marilyn Manson and the Manson Murders he went to school with Squeaky
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from did you know that oh no way Charles Manson but um what'd I say no way you
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said you said Marilyn Manson I've been listening to a lot of rock after the Nirvana episode yeah
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that's interesting squeaky promise from Canada no no when they moved to California
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got it yeah so I'm gonna look up a picture if Phil Hartman have him to smile at me during this uh yeah I watch
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a lot of Phil Hartman while I was doing this so I remember him
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hold on I'm gonna go admonish Luna okay oh I'm looking at as far as it's gonna
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tell you where he remembers Phil Hartman from but news radio oh I'm so delightful on news radio obviously he was on SNL
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just like a really sweet man admonishment complete I think
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great I was gonna say Taylor I mostly remember Phil from Saturday Night Live
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I'm wondering how you how you remember him the most definitely from SNL I watched it like live in the 90s I also
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feel like his voice comes up in like a ton of like animated things like whenever I hear him I'm like oh it's so hard man I can tell
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um and then also not recently but like 10 years ago we rewatched news radio and
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he was so good in that and I also I'm looking it up and being reminded that two awful people were in news radio Joe
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Rogan and Andy Dick who are both [ __ ] terrible so that's interesting that they just happened to be in there too but uh
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yeah he was so sweet in news radio okay I'm gonna disagree with you on the Joe Rogan bit but I will agree with you
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on the Andy Dick bit and both of those are going to be pretty prominent characters in in this story as I go
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about discussing you know we get it we can discuss Joe Rogan offline but he is
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going to come up I'm surprised has Bill Clinton impression his Bill
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Clinton I watched I watched so many of his Clips where he's he the one where he goes to a McDonald's okay you know what
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I'm going down a rabbit hole right now and I'm totally derailing everything I wrote this outline so let me let me continue on and then we'll segue back to
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all that stuff but yes SNL I think of people of Our Generation that's how you know Phil Hartman he started attending
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improv classes when he was 27 years old for work around this time he was
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actually a graphic artist and part of what he did was he would design logos and album covers so I didn't know this
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about him but he did the album cover for one of Steely Dan's albums and the logo for Crosby Stills and Ash which super
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cool babe that's cool yeah the comedy group that he joined was called the Groundlings
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they also throughout their not necessarily when he was there but it was
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a fairly prominent comedy troupe so Kathy Griffin Will Ferrell Lisa Kudrow
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Melissa McCarthy Paul Rubin Maya Rudolph those were all folks that came out of
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this comedy troupe and look I don't know much about comedy troops but they kind of sound like NCAA
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Sports programs where like there's some programs that produce the best of the best the the cream of the crop it seems
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like ground leagues is one of them second cities is another one that people probably yeah that's the one I know a second City that's what I would say yeah
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exactly um in in this case it's worth noting that
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Phil's part of the reason why the Groundlings became who they became because he joined the troop a year after
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it was formed and then he went on to he's the reason why all these other
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folks you know like Will Ferrell Maya Rudolph and all them have it has this reputation to attract them
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and I just listed off Paul Rubin who if you don't know is the actor who played Pee-wee Herman in Pee-wee's Playhouse
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another thing I learned doing this they were in the Groundlings together at the exact same time and during this time
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Phil is the one who created the character of PeeWee Herman and he was in the show and he produced
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something in it yeah he's in it yeah yeah it all started during this time when
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they were both in the Groundlings there's he's so cute can we started off as like an adult show right like it was
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it it wasn't always for kids I think it was like a little like raunchier really
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an Inception and then it was like oh kids like this but I think it was like because he was in it anyway we can have
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we can talk let's have a second Phil Hartman episode we just talk about how much we love the apartment I could go on for like weeks on that
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like I mentioned earlier Phil joined SNL in its 12th season in 1986
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I'm okay so we need to start having sections where it's like fars starts his rant
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here so that people know they can fast forward from their because it's just gonna be me perfect yelling
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can't wait for those of you who are younger the SNL actually used to be amazing
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there seems to be like fits and start so my current my opinion right now is I don't watch us at all I think it kind of sucks and every now and then if
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something gets if like a skit is actually particularly good it gets enough media play where it I'll pay
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attention to it but outside of that it's not my go-to to watch yeah there seems to be fits and starts
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so there are particular cast members and Seasons where when they came together it created just comedy gold the biggest of
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those years in cast members would be at the very beginning of SNL it wouldn't last very long if I remember correctly
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it was three or four seasons where they caught Lighting in a in a bottle that
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those would be the years of John Belushi Dan ackward and Bill Murray which are obviously like the you know the Mount
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Everest of Comedy essentially another one of those Peaks I mean I
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would argue others might not were several of the seasons Phil Hartman was
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on the show as well so the cast members during this time were Dana Carvey do you
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remember his George Bush Impressions oh yeah a world absolute gold Chris Farley
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was on at this time they overlapped with each other Chris Rock was on it Adam Sandler Al Franken
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David Spade and Rob Schneider like to us I think Taylor like our generation like
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this was our you know Mount Everest of Comedy absolutely absolutely I definitely
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watched it all the time I think I stayed up to watch it as well yeah same because obviously look how else would I watched
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it yeah or the internet so yeah yeah I remember
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for for this workout here I think a couple years ago I was out with my former boss at the time who's all who's
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a few years older than me but like same similar generation and for some reason we started discussing like our favorite
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Chris Farley skit and one of our younger colleagues who was there with us goes who's Chris Farley
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wow can you tell me who that was you sidestepped me who that was um I'm gonna say it here and then I'm
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going to send it to him it's Marco Suarez
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yeah I'm I'm glad actually you know what I'm gonna call out another one Morgan saying she also was there and said I
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don't know who he is either yeah um that's hilarious and also I I'm
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looking while looking at pictures of Phil Hartman lovingly on Google would you remember you had to buy the DVDs
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that was like best of Phil Hartman yeah and you'd buy the DVD and it would have like 20 skits on it
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yeah good old days right the Chris Farley thing like when I heard
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that absolutely crushed me he's actually like my favorite SNL cast member and I actually kind of assumed he'd be number
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three on the list of all-time greatest only behind Belushi and Marie
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I found this list that ranked him number 15 which seems like insane like for for
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so Kristen wig and Dana Carvey ranked higher which I love both of them but
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they're not better than Chris Farley no no do you remember his Chippendale
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character or like Maps well I mean so we again we get into this but like the Chip
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and Dale sketch like really hurt him emotionally really really upset because
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it's like essentially a body shaming sketch you know and people are like laughing at him because of his body and
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afterwards he's just like what the [ __ ] am I doing like I'm just this like fat guy being you know taken advantage of
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and he felt terrible after that I think that I read that somewhere when I was reading sad things about Chris Farley one day
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um well now I feel bad he's only like 25 when he died too um yeah no but I mean it's funny but
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they're stick but I think he was probably like getting a little tired of it even though he was so young anyway
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how about Chris Farley later well then we're gonna go into a little bit more of a man here so the the author of this
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because I just like personally was like how are you ranking these people so he ranked Norm Macdonald 139 out of 145 of
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cast members yeah he went dead this list makes no sense he reigned Dennis Miller
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ahead of Kate McKinnon no get him out okay I'm gonna call him out here his
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name is his name is Rob Sheffield of Rolling Stone and by the way I also read
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your ranking of the top hundred country albums Taylor Swift beat at Folsom
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Prison by Johnny Cash yeah this guy doesn't know what he's talking about Shania Twain was 10 spots
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ahead of Loretta Lynn's Coal Miner's Daughter on his list no no crazy no I I
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remember watching the Coal Miner's Daughter movie with my grandma and my mom um one of the all-time great albums ever ever made not just country
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okay stop I'll stop but I'm just saying like this guy seems like he's throwing darts on the board when he's deciding
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who's funny anyways back to the story so again like this arabestinal these actors they were
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basically the best thing on TV and and for comedy in the early 90s essentially
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and you mentioned Phil Hartman's Clan impression that that is actually the thing that started the whole how we mock
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president's thing nice going forward yeah yeah so now we're familiar with Daryl
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Daryl Hannah or Will Ferrell or all those guys doing president mockery things and really it was Phil's
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impression of Clinton that kind of set this off Phil would eventually leave SNL to go work at the show that you just
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mentioned the sitcom you mentioned news radio which to be honest I've never seen it it
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sounds like people who watch it you should watch it okay yeah does it hold up
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yeah absolutely I mean honestly the only part oh I don't know how many it lasts like one
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season after Phil Hartman dies and it is different and so sad and everyone said
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sad yeah it's like you can feel the sadness in the room so after that happens I think we like maybe watched
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like half of it and then stop watching it because it's not the same and everyone is just [ __ ] heartbroken yeah yeah I read that he actually
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posthumously wanted Emmy for his work on that show so it must have been must have been good between his time on SNL and
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news radio he also worked on The Simpsons where he voiced one of well some of the best characters that were on
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the show Troy McClure and attorney Lionel Huts which were probably the most well-known but he did others as well in
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the middle of all this he was also starring in movies well you know sometimes throwing a lot of times doing like um supporting character work and
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stuff like that generally speaking he was basically everywhere like his voice was so how would you say it like it was
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it was so recognizable and noticeable you'll know it if you hear it you know like it's definitely one of those things
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that like if you hear his voice you'll be like oh that's Phil Hartmann exactly from everywhere hear him everywhere
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exactly yeah if you're if you are familiar with his work his typical characters come
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across as kind of Larger than Life they're a little bit arrogant a little bit narcissistic it's the over the
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topness of how he plays these characters that make them hilarious by all accounts from people he worked
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with on The Simpsons or Lauren Michaels of SNL to the team of our news radio
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Phil was considered incredibly humble and down to earth and very helpful to his colleagues and just generally a
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pleasant guy to be around again he got his start in Life or not in life like he had a start in comedy his rise in
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prominence was so late in life that he wasn't one of those guys who was just like raised a celebrity child and like
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just thought he was the greatest thing in the world he knew what it was like to kind of struggle and come up and so he was very very thoughtful about it he
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married several times he was married for two years in the 80s then he married another woman for three years and then
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the main antagonist of this story Phil married in 1987. this woman is
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called her name is Bryn omdahl Brynn was an aspiring actress and it
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seems like that in a cocktail of alcohol and narcotics were ultimately the cause of Hern Phil's downfall you mentioned
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one of your least favorite people Joe Rogan actually plays a part in this so
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as you mentioned he was in news radio with Phil and by all accounts they were
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friends with each other yeah they would have been pretty close to the same age I think actually around that time and also
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because the Joe Rogan podcast is so prominent and he has so many people that are on the show there's tons of content
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that's out there he's had pretty much anybody who's been on news radio connected to news radio connected to Phil all of these people
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have done interviews on his show and Phil Harmon comes up a lot obviously because a lot of these because everybody
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who worked with them loved them and they were all struck by what happened to him so like I mentioned Joe and Phil were
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friends throughout their time in um news radio and to your earlier Point Andy Dick is
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also going to make an appearance here because he was also in news radio as you mentioned and he
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played a role in this to varying degrees depending on who you believe on what ended up happening to Phil and Brynn
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from what Joe himself has said on the podcast so much of the toxic Dynamic of
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Phil and brin's relationship had to do with her career aspirations and where Phil was in life they married in 1987.
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so think about that they made they got married a year after Phil gets on SNL so
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he was not like the guy yet like he's just like he's like just his head's poking out of water basically at this
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point right but he still has like a really good job he's good well so we don't really know that because if you
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for context the entire cast almost the entire cast of the previous season had
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been fired so he started in 86. um the cast of 85 which included Robert
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Downey Jr and Anthony Michael Hall all of them got fired because nothing was hitting me they have to remember them
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yeah yeah like I said I still has fits in stores so there's moments where it's comedy gold and there's moments where it
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just totally sucks and the year before Phil started it was in the totally sucks category Taylor this is funny on the
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first on the first episode of this season this was season 12. that's the season he started the announcer called
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him Phil Hoffman it's like again like they're just like Amateur hour right they're just like
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whatever yeah yeah again like he wasn't who he
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eventually became but by the next year so that would have been 87 88 his
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struggle was on the rise he was three years away from being big enough to where he was on The Simpsons which again
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to younger folks The Simpsons back then if not paralleled almost certainly
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eclipsed SNL in terms of popularity I think so right would you say that's
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accurate I think so I think it was more accessible I mean like I said before like I don't remember how the heck you
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ever watched anything like more than once there definitely weren't like SNL reruns I don't think but there were
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Simpsons reruns it was on more it had the opportunity to be often right yeah and also this I would yeah and also this
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would have been like the Golden Era of The Simpsons like the funniest the best like all the most memorable stuff that
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The Simpsons produced so getting on there I would argue was probably harder than getting on SNL because everybody
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wanted to be on The Simpsons and because they have a very finite number of characters they can have on there his
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star was skyrocketing at this point it was very clear apparently to those
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around Phil and Brynn that their relationship was toxic at this point they had two kids together and those
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around Phil would notice that Brynn made it a point to embarrass him publicly like talking down to him just basically
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making everyone around them feel uncomfortable in their presence this had gone to such a level go ahead sorry
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you can talk about his intro and SNL with her in it do you know the part I don't remember
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that so when they they do the thing when it's like Phil Hartman you know I'm like it's someone like standing in New York City
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like smiling you know like that how they still do that you know like whatever so in his you'll see that he's at a table
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with a blonde woman and that's her and her earring is swinging like really really fast because she wouldn't stop
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staring at the camera and they had to be like move your head this isn't about you and so she was so mad and she like swung
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her face backwards and her earring is swinging and he smiles and that's his intro I'm gonna go back and watch that she had just moved her head because
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people were like stop [ __ ] look at the camera am I introducing you we're introducing him oh I'm gonna go back and
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look at that yeah I never saw that I I watched a ton of SNL's because I never went back to the intro how do you remember that Taylor
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I feel like I read that in an article that was like that was like a I don't know how I know that interesting
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I don't know it's in there I don't know much math yeah that and the fact that you know that tote is German for murder
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or like the weirdest random things that are connected to my story that I never would have anticipated anyone knowing
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that you did so I'm full of surprises full surprises apparently this toxicity level got to
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the point where Joe Rogan would frequently tell Phil he should consider the divorce he said that he talked to
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him but like five or six times about this like hey this isn't good like we can tell somebody's going on Phil didn't
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want to and would he what Joe said on the podcast is the reason he didn't want
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to do this was because he'd already been divorced twice and because at this time he had this
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squeaky clean Family Man quality to him in Hollywood he thought that a divorce
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would actually tarnish His Image in inhibit his career essentially
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okay so we can say that Joe Rogan in this story is a good friend of Phil Hartman but now Joe Rogan is a lunatic
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because he gets people to take Ivermectin I don't like I don't agree with any of
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this like you sound like what are you talking about I had this whole discussion
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yeah okay so the I'm not going to the whole covet thing I don't really like care but it's like I
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think that just generally speaking he has this reputation is this like right wing insane person it's like no he was a
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stand-up comic in like a UFC commentator and then started a podcast and just like talks to people like I don't know it's
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kind of crazy all right we can talk about this later we'll we'll set we'll have a whole why don't we do it I'm willing to say I'm
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willing to say that Joe Rogan is a good friend of the Phil Hartman okay I think that's been documented
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because like everybody who's been on the podcast has also brought this up which again a lot of people have been on the
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podcast about this actually Andy Dick was on the podcast once and that was basically enough yeah
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well I don't know even about that because like I think that the guy really really has a lot of problems like
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psychologically yeah it's like I don't want to like shame him for that but like I said before Brent
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also had substance abuse issues and it tried unsuccessfully to get clean she would bounce from one substance to the
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next and at a new so this is where he comes in at a News Radio Christmas
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party in 1997 1997 Andy Dick would give Brynn cocaine in cause for to relapse
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and go back down the hard drug pass so I don't know how you categorize that's
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what I heard that's the thing that I heard yeah yeah I don't know how you categorize this but like to me there's like three categories of substance users
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right there's the drinkers there's the chill drug users which is
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like marijuana mushrooms like organic drug users then there's the powders right there's the people who get into
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the powders and then like I feel like that is a diversion path that escalates
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any psychological issues that might pre be pre-existing do you do you sense that too
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yeah I think well I mean obviously there's other like has like heroin and math and like worse things you could be
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on I think yeah yeah but that's true but but yeah definitely
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so so that's what partially why I think people also put this because like sure it was cocaine it was one time but
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you're dealing with someone that has like a history of substance abuse and
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clearly isn't doing right it's not mentally she's not the right person to give that to you right right and he knew
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it right like he did not know but he also has his own problems so yeah exactly
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apparently this caused quite a rift with the cast mates because everyone loved
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Phil and everyone could see that Brynn was unstable and they were pissed that Andy did this like they solid why would
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you give this person that we know that has this issue but again to your point he he has Zone issues but there's also
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this presumption that maybe he didn't know that she had a history of substance abuse and that's he was just like trying
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to be a good time guy you know yeah the fighting in the house got to such an extent that Phil would have his kids go
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stay Elsewhere on occasions I don't know if you've ever been in a relationship like this you you I mean I certainly
28:53
have but when you're with someone where Yeller yeah like when you know exactly what their triggers are how to read
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their Moody and just brace yourself for battle that's kind of like what this sounded like to me in my mind I can see
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Brynn in a robe like sulking around the house with an empty bottle of vodka at noon and still being like kids you gotta
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go to your aunt's house tonight like knowing that the next 12 hours is gonna be absolute absolute hell
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Phil did try to help her for what it's worth it's actually completely in line
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with what everybody says about his character he got her into rehab a few times It ultimately failed like I said before and as it became more clear to
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him that she resented his career he would try to pull strings in Hollywood to get her roles
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she did have a few roles here or there but this is Phil Hartman people like
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again yeah you might not remember how huge this guy was back in the day she
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would have had to be Nicole Kidman in this era to not be in his shadow I catch up yeah so all this culminates on May
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28th of 1998 Brynn went out to dinner with a friend and had some drinks she gets home her and Phil have a fight
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which seems to be the typical standard of their relationship we don't know what it was over but
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regardless he goes to bed and she stays up she apparently still has like is doing drugs or drinking or some
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combination thereof around 3 A.M she goes into their bedroom where he is
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asleep and shoots him three times once in the head once in the neck and once in
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the chest which is like a weird like just what were you thinking about Jesus going up and down like you're doing just
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like the dots with his like spine like crazy just like I don't know who knows yeah oh my God yeah that's so sad yeah
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are the kids home they were they were all good into that oh no go back to the Andy Dick thing um later
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on they found out that she had a cocktail of Zoloft cocaine alcohol in her system so uh the cocaine thing stuck
30:52
after that Christmas party apparently Brynn leaves the house then he goes over to a former boyfriend's house a guy
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named Ron Douglas and tells him what she did they go back to the Hartman house together and Ron discovers that she's
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telling the truth and immediately calls the police good job Ron at this point yeah the police show up and the police
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take the kids out of the house they oh she left them there Well Ron was in the house too Ron was
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with Bryn in the house but she left them there when she went to get Ron yeah yeah she did yeah
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so the police show up take take one out of the house take the kids out of the house Bryn locked herself in the
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bathroom and then shoots herself in the head and kills herself ugh
31:34
the Andy Dick thing again like you're familiar with John Lovitz right
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yeah so John Lewis was also part of this whole I mean all these guys it's it's like La comedy right it's the LA comedy
31:46
scene they all know each other so they were all part of The Comedy Store seeing the Improv they were all they were on
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actually I don't remember if Andy Dick was on Estelle but John Levitz definitely was on SNL and I think John Levitz after Phil Hartman died
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went on news radio as well do you recall that at all with that season
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okay I don't remember I just remember so they have him die of like natural causes
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but he was like the main character he was just such a great character on that show very Phil Hartman like a very
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conceited like funny guy um so without him it just I mean the
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hole was just a normal mess like you never they never ever ever would have written him out of that show you know so
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it was like a plot line that they never would have had it's almost like the show wouldn't have been it wouldn't doesn't
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need to exist without that character in it exactly and they all knew it and they were all just so [ __ ] sad yeah yeah
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yeah like like with with the whole Jon Lovitz thing so apparently he he he's one of the guys who really was pissed
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off about this he was apparently really really close to Phil and they would get into physical fights when they would see
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each other and like they're in the comedy scene L.A together they would see each other all the time they're being at the conference room there's stories about John Lewis just bashing his head
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against the uh bar at The Comedy Store when they ran into each other like it was it was yeah
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oh because that's how responsible that crew of people saw and like like in the
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in in one of the episodes Rob Lowe was on the Rogan podcast and he was like yeah I had Andy on once definitely don't
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need to talk to him ever again like we're good like it's like this caused like this like legit Rift amongst that
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entire cast mate or the crew like I mentioned so Phil would have died in at
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the age of 49 that was in 1998. he started his rise in Fame in 86 so
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that's 12 years and probably like really it was 10 years where he's kind of living out his dream which is kind of
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the fact that I found find really sad he did yeah he did the thing that they say can be done or is hard to be done
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which is finding your calling in life really late in life by this math he would have been 37 when
33:57
he got his big break that first year of SNL which that's awesome right yeah oh my God that's awesome as someone
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who has no big breaks in his 40. this is this is our big break Taylor this is it
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guys please tell your friends Taylor needs this
34:15
she's literally crying um yeah going back to the two kids so they
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ended up being taken in by Bryn's sister and her husband um apparently Bergen the daughter
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she ended up having her own substance abuse issues but I checked out her insta page which is which is fairly active if you want to see us Bergen Bergen Hartman
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she is now 11 years and four weeks clean from opioids and apparently happily married so good for her not much to say
34:42
yeah there's not much to say about Sean the sun other than he lives in California he's a musician and artist
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and I couldn't really find much more about him on there so hopefully he's living his best life as well I don't
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know how you can after your parents do that or your mom does that but hopefully he gets over that trauma yeah
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so that is Phil and Brynn but now we're gonna go to
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a super uplifting story right Taylor oh yeah yeah yeah
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and we continue to be sad for a second I'm looking at he was so good like it
35:18
sucks that like people don't recognize who he I mean if you don't recognize if you don't know Chris Farley's you sure
35:24
should don't know who Phil Harmon is I would assume I would say Chris Farley was Chris Farley it went right
35:31
yeah seriously Morgan am I right in saying that Chris Farley is probably bigger and more prominent in the public
35:38
exam Phil I feel like if you don't if you know nothing
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um you could see you could probably be like oh I can just picture Chris Farley
35:49
you know um maybe you can't picture Phil Hartman but I feel like when she saw his characters he could picture him and
35:55
definitely his voice you could absolutely hear his voice it's so I don't know it's so like obvious just as
36:02
soon as you hear it you're like oh it's Phil Hartman you know yeah I can hear Troy McClure like some of the best
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the best um Simpsons moments were Lionel Huts the one there was one that there
36:15
was one that he he said he goes he was trying to defend The Simpsons in some court case and he
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goes yeah I think I I think I understand I watched Matlock in a bar last night the sound wasn't on but I got the gist
36:27
of it like he's just what he says it and then Phil Hartman voice that's like so self-assured uh it's so good yes
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it was like this like confident guy you know it's so great it's so great
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um well that's I want to all watch some Phil Hartman stuff tonight maybe some skits yeah that's sad I miss him also
36:47
reminder somebody ranked a Taylor Swift album ahead of Johnny
36:52
Cash like old Johnny Cash like that makes no sense I don't like Taylor Swift a lot but that makes no sense
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um also um what was I gonna say a reminder to people to
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um watch old SNL skits I don't know I think of something else but yeah thanks for sharing oh don't kill your family
37:10
that was my reminder don't kill your family it's a Bryn's credit she only killed her
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husband and not the rest of the family yeah that's true okay
37:23
that was terrible terrible sweater like supposed to be like an only fans reference but it's
37:29
only murders oh it's only murders in the building why would I have an only fans reference sweater it's only murders in the
37:36
building the show and the podcast oh I don't know it's on Hulu it's with Steve Martin
37:42
speaking of Saturday lives with Steve Martin and Martin Short yeah it's great just watch it so okay
37:50
so let's transfer over to our history story and I this
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week I don't know if it it came out this week or if it's because of um you're talking
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about Nirvana but on Netflix I found a three-part documentary about Woodstock
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99 and I was like this is bananas this is crazy I was like you know it's if you
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don't know watch that documentary it's you know trying to recreate Woodstock in 99 which did not work because like the
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people who attended just like were a bunch of [ __ ] there was tons of rioting tons of sexual assault a lot of crimes they like burnt the whole thing
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down and I also was wondering like what is the Venn diagram of dudes who are at
38:34
Woodstock 99 and dudes who are at the instruction on January 6th and I feel like that might be in June Jordan Circle
38:40
it's like that kind of dude you know they're so it's and it's definitely the same gene type like if you go backwards
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like a couple Generations they definitely shared an uncle I think yeah I've had definitely more than five
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people were at both places yes um I'm sure I'm sure there were so it's super interesting and I was like can I do
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what's up 99 and I'm like Taylor go back go back further so I was like what are deadly riots and insurrections of
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history and there's obviously a ton but I found one that revolves around a couple so there is a relationship in
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this one and so I want to talk about the Nico Riots of 532. so all the way back
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way back going way back I list I listened to one YouTube video called
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deadly moments in history the Nico riots a stuff you missed in History Class A Smithsonian article
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I'm just like information about this story so it involved a couple Emperor
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Justinian and his wife Theodora so they're like they're like big players in this story and we're in the Byzantine
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Empire which is the Eastern Roman Empire around the year of 500 and they're actually based in Constantinople I'll
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talk about that in a second Emperor Justinian the first was born in jerusium in Northern Macedonia and if you're Dan
39:57
Carlin you say Macedonia I might go back and forth I want to do the Dan Carlin one I'm gonna say I'm like really proud
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of you for picking something where the names all sound incredibly hard to pronounce thank you Kudos thank you I'm gonna go
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macadonia because that's what Dan Carlin says but Justinian was born in 482 80.
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he was a like a poor humble person he grew up speaking Latin instead of Greek
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Greek was a language of the of the court so this is like the Eastern Roman Empire is like more Greek and then the Western
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one is more Roman Italian Roman they speak Latin so in in the end he does
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learn to speak Greek in his court and I would have to like really study the you know the way that they do like the
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lineage for becoming Emperor but even though he's humble and like doesn't come from Super wealth his uncle is Emperor
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and his uncle is Emperor Justin which I like laughed at like for an hour Justin like I know it was like Justin Trudeau
40:53
is a world leader but like Emperor Justin I just can't makes me laugh so
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um King bill or something right I just can't so Justin is his uncle and when
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Justin dies Justinian becomes a successor so I don't know if it's like
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just kind of like next to best who's like kind of related to you because I can't imagine these Emperors had zero Sons but it definitely is like seems to
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be handing off to nephews so it's probably just like who around my circle my family has like the most potential I
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think probably that makes sense so yeah so Justin died in 1527 and Justinian
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became emperor Justinian married a woman named Theodora she was born also into
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humble Origins but like actually humble her dad was a bear Keeper in the Hippodrome so that's humble
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does not sound like a humble upbringing that sounds like an awesome upbringing
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I mean yes awesome but I can't I don't think he like made a lot of money being a bear keeper but also it is awesome and
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like maybe we got to hug bears which is cool it's very cool so we'll talk about the Hippodrome in a second but you know
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I'm thinking like imagine you know being a beer keeper obviously terrible things happen to the Bears and also those Bears
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probably killed a lot of people so there's a lot going on in like with being a bear keeper you know what it's
42:09
not like a zoo I was romanticizing this a lot more than you just laid it out I
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thought you'd like right they would start treating you like you're one of them and like you could like go Forge
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with them and like your family together but I guess there's probably a lot of abuse in that
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yeah yes yes and you probably get a bonus every time your bear eats someone you know I don't know but it's
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definitely you're not like it's not a sanctuary for Bears okay okay thank you okay that's the way I was thinking
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Sanctuary for Bears it's not a sanctuary for Bears okay okay awful situation for them I bet the Bears
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are having a bad time everyone's having a bad time okay yes yes I don't approve so
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so Theodore I became an actress and a dancer which is like we taught us before like in like ancient Roman times like an
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actress basically was like the same level as a sex worker in society she may have actually been a
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sex worker that's unclear Some people say that she wasn't and that you know before she met Justinian but they did
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fall in love and they got married and she became kind of a co-ruler with him
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and she had a big influence in the government so they're married they're in charge there
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was a little bit of conflict that has to do with religion obviously it's a Christian Society at this point Theodora
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was part of the sect that believed that Jesus was many things like also a ghost and a person
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again I don't know and then most people thought he was one thing like one entity
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so that's like a big deal there's like another like reason to fight within Christianity
43:44
started so much [ __ ] started so much [ __ ] so yeah so there are people are
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kind of mad about that it's not all religion and politics or
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all those things there's also Sports so this is a sport story mostly so the
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biggest sport in in the time is Chariot racing let's talk about that in a second
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so I love a sport Riot like I don't want to be in one but I appreciate it when Philadelphia tries to burn itself down
44:13
whether they win or lose you know like that's hilarious like people just like going absolutely nuts like that sounds
44:19
really like it's fun in as long as no one dies it sounds fun also did I mention that
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we're in Istanbul which was Constantinople and you know that song why did they
44:32
change it I can't say maybe they liked it better that way no who is that was Constantinople I have no idea it's like
44:38
it's from like the 80s or 70s oh sure if it's not Nirvana I'm not going to recognize anything for the next like
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month it's not it's not so I do have a list of like what Constantinople was called but
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it's gone through a lot of changes but at this point it's probably called New Rome at the moment oh yes okay so it's
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called I go spazantium Augusta Antonio New Rome Constantinople constantini Istanbul so
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now it's Istanbul but at this point it was probably called New Rome okay so we're in Turkey like modern day Turkey
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yeah which would have been back then part of the like a much larger swath of
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like the Ottoman Empire which I think was one of the biggest Empires ever okay right it goes over there too yeah um so
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that's where we are in the middle of Istanbul right now you can visit the
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Hippodrome so the Hippodrome is like such a cool word I don't even know what to do like Hippodrome so the Hippodrome
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is a place where you can watch races and other games it still exists you can still visit it it's huge it can hold
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like 50 to 100 000 people it's a big Stadium you could go in and like rent
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cushions to sit on the on the on the steps like the Hollywood Bowl you could like rent a cushion and like sit on the
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steps and watch to the races it's a really really long oval a really thin long oval in the middle there's like a
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wall with statues they even had I think still have an Egyptian obelisk in the middle of it it's like beautiful statues
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in the middle all stone is huge Stadium it's obviously not those are like safety
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measures you know because it's in the year 500. what you do is you race around
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the oval in your chariot and it's very dangerous so Chariot racing is one of
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the oldest forms of sports it involves pulling a two-wheeled chariot driven by four horses in in this case in the
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Hippodrome at this time so you're going kind of standing on your chariot and you're racing against other people so like you can remember this from Like
46:34
Gladiator right didn't they do that in Gladiator they did this looks like a place you were meant to die in yeah
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absolutely it's very like spectator yeah you know yeah like I mean even like the location of where they put the
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things to draw your eyes like it's meant to be like you're all in the center of this thing and God help you if you don't
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do the right thing in that moment and we know that bears work there so like obviously some other stuff happens too
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involving ghosts and like eating people for sure for sure but Chariot racing can be traced back to ancient Egypt where
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they were used in Warfare and hunting it became a very popular form of entertainment and like a religious ceremony it was considered a good
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profession if you could like buy your way out of slavery doing it if you like start a lot of the more people Charities
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were slaves because a lot of people died like right away I mean imagine like you're you fall off your chariot you get
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crushed by by horses but people who didn't die and who continue to do it would be able to eventually buy their way out of slavery because they would
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start to like make money that's like the main thing there in the Hippodrome there is a spot for the emperor to sit and
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that is connected to the Palace by like an underground tunnel that's how he gets there and he's always was like they're around so I think this is hilarious for
47:46
some reason but in this time there's four main factions of teams and their names are the blues greens Reds and
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whites like that's it there's a Metro color it's like kind of like these Harry Potter houses except blamer a little bit
47:57
yeah I guess I'd say more I was gonna be like more deaf but there's so much death in Harry Potter so yes they weren't just
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sports teams they're also social groups so you kind of like choose yours and like you know be a hooligan like be like
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this is my like I'm I'm the greens like you're the blues like [ __ ] the blues all the things like lots of fighting which
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again is Fun sports fighting is fun as long as someone gets hurt but people are about to get hurt so it's like I feel
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like this it wouldn't be fun in this era because there's no rules or laws and like people right absolutely like now
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you get prosecuted but like yeah yeah I mean again to bring up Philly like that's where you get punched in the face
48:32
if like your team beats Philly and you're like in Philly but for the most part it's fun that's also partially why
48:39
I have deliberately never been to an Eagles game because yeah no because it just feels like a really bad place to be
48:46
a sports fan of a rival team absolutely absolutely in this time the blues are
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associated with the aristocracy because like the emperor supports them they were
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more traditional more like wealthy fans and the greens were associated with the
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lower class is intended to be more populist they were like more Progressive more people who like lived in the
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suburbs and were common people liked the greens so at this time by the time we're in this story it's really just the
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greens and the blues those are like the biggest the biggest two two sides the
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greens don't like the queen and the king or the emperor and Empress because they like the blues so it's like a whole
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thing like Justinian and Theodora they support the blues and so all the regular people who are greens are also like mad
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at the emperor so it's like a whole thing there's also a lot happening with like the Emperors taxing people for Wars
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and taxing people to like build stuff for himself and people are hungry and all like political unrest things actually happening while this is
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happening but it's gonna kind of culminate at this sports event on January 10th 532 there's a mini Riot and
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there's lots of riots like kind of all the time but there's a mini Riot between the Queen the greens and the blues and
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seven men get sentenced to death so two of the men yeah so like the emperor is like stop fighting the leader is
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sentenced to death so was it all green no it was half blue half seven like it was mixed blues and greens and when they
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do that execution they do it by hanging and two of the men survive because the
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scaffolding breaks and it's one blue and one green so now they're kind of together and
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saying like maybe God is on our side like the side of the people because the emperor wanted the blues and greens to
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get like the leaders of this this like mini Riot to get killed but maybe now God's on our side because he saved them I mean that tracks yeah
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I mean but I feel like if I was an emperor I'd say like now you all just have to each fight to the death and whoever wins this is why I shouldn't be
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a leader actually yeah no they didn't they they let them go now tensions are like super high because people are like
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wondering what the hell's going on because of the way that they those the green and the blue were saved Justinian
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instead of like canceling upcoming chariot races he continued to have them and another thing about the Hippodrome
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is like I said before like that's how they got in the emperor and empress and like the court would get in through a secret tunnel from the palace and then
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like be in the Hippodrome on their like a box again like think of gladiator like they're up higher than everybody else I
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have a picture up right now like there's a obvious like I'm assuming that the Hippodrome all has like one kind of uh
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like from the top level down looks the same except there's one section of it that's like this white Obelisk looking
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thing that looks like it's connected to like a quartz area like a royal Port
51:30
area so I would assume that's where it is yeah like when you're watching a game and you're like they show you someone up
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in a box and you're like okay fine yeah but um this is the only space where
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the comment people ever really see the emperor so it's also a time for like political things so they like yell up to
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him like we want less taxes and like a lot of yelling and like chanting and things that they want the emperor to
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hear because he doesn't really see the common people so that that happened these things as
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well so on January 15th 5 32 so 10 days after this first mini Riot there's
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another race plan for the day and it starts to break out into another Riot
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there's 24 races planned they don't get to that many people start to fight there's some like fighting within the
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people watching it starts to get bigger and bigger and the fight spills over into the city the crowd starts shouting
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Nika Nika which means Victory conquer so that's what's called the Nico riots because they are trying to like
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overthrow the government because now it's an Insurrection they're trying to overthrow the emperor so all these
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people all these tensions from the sports and all these things are rampaging the city they're setting the
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city on fire conceptual is a burning they're looting shops the palace was besieged so they took over the palace it
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was about to completely collapse and Justinian was considering just leaving this point and everybody hears just [ __ ]
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house hammered on wine right oh yeah absolutely you gotta be like be yeah no water a
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belly full of wine wouldn't make me want to like be active I think I play beer is a good Riot beer
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and whiskey are good rioting drinks yeah I think Beer's a good Riot drink yeah but really but all they really had was
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wines so I imagine like everyone's kind of stained with red wine and blood you know like it's a whole thing could you
53:20
could you imagine like if you were just like drunk on cosmopolitans and like trying to flip over like a car like it's
53:28
what I don't know it just doesn't have the same tone to it no no but I'm sure straight vodka
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inspired a lot of riots in Russia so yeah it's different the city is about to burn
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down the the Aya Sophia is burned so who do you know what that is that building never heard of them
53:47
it is a religious building in the middle of constant Constantinople assemble it
53:53
was built before this time it started off as a church it's like a beautiful Dome with turrets it kind of looks like
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it has a Taj Mahal look with like the dome in the four turrets it's really beautiful on the inside I definitely did a paper about it when I was studying our
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history so like it's like a beautiful building um it was burned down and they built a new one after this and it started off as
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a church then is it called Sofia yeah
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h-a-i-g-a but I think it's Aya Sophia and so it was built during the Byzantine
54:23
Empire during this time we kind of refurbished after this fire as a Christian Cathedral it was converted
54:29
into a mosque after the ottoman Conquest it talked about in 1453 so much later it became a mosque and then the Turkish
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Republic took it over in 1935 and turned it into a museum but in 2020 the Turkish
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government took it back and now it is a mosque it's beautiful I mean I'm looking at the view of the inside the Dome
54:47
interior on Wikipedia and it's amazing looking yeah it's really really beautiful so now it's a mosque it just
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and it's one of those things I think we actually talked about with the Taj Mahal too where Christians are like it was originally ours and they're like no it's
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ours and people are kind of trying to fight over who gets to worship there I think people we will never change
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people never change yeah never never change so bio Sophie is
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burning the city's burning on January 19th so four days after the start of the riot the people choose another nephew of
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Justin to be Emperor his name is hepatius and they put hepatius on the throne in the Hippodrome and they're
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like we have a new emperor so things look really really bad for Justinian and Theodora and they're thinking of leaving
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and she says to him this is a quote and it's gonna be hard if you my lord wish
55:35
to save your skin you will have no difficulty in doing so we are rich there is the sea there two are our ships but
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consider first whether When You Reach safety will you regret that you did not choose death and preference as for me I
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stand by the ancient saying the purple is a noblest binding sheet so she is like you have to stay like you can't we
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could run away but like let's say and fight for our Empire what's the purple thing mean purple is the color of
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Emperors it was a hard color to come by so like they would wear like purple capes purple shrouds so like Caesar wore
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purple like purple was the color that you would wear when you were in charge yeah she's saying like be a leader yeah
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exactly so he says I'm gonna stay and I'm Gonna Stand Tall on this and he had
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his army led by General belisarius suppress the riots and so here's some
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stuff that happens so like I said before there was a mini Riot that started this there's tons of riots
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during this time we know a lot about this one because it was like heavily documented but there probably were worse
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ones that we just like don't know a ton about but this is the one we know the most about so belisarius takes his
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finally the Justinian says go he takes the troops they go out and they just start like killing the people who are
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rioting they end up going to the Hippodrome so the Hippodrome had become kind of a sanctuary people are talking
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there the new emperor they made hepatius is there a lot of family is people just like kind of hiding and trying to to
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stay in the spot while the rest of the city is like on fire and crazy things are happening but belsarius and his
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troops come in and they kill everybody it's estimated they get 30 000 people
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inside the Hippodrome that day so Taylor Sorry I'm confusing some people here is this the current Emperor who
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slaughtered his people or the newly crowned okay they have such a disconnect there
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because it's like I'm gonna be elite you know what I pictured I picture this like proud moment of like just like a
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Gladiator movie of like the empress like stealing the nurb of the emperor like
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you can do this you are you are the god-sent you know king or whatever and
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then you just like just goes and kills everyone like I I didn't see it going that way well that's what happens in that you
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know later you know it one of the outcomes of this Nika Riot is it
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weakened the power of the factions like the blues and the greens the political factions and it served as a warning that
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the emperor would not hesitate to use Force to to stop a rebellion yeah so
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before well maybe you were like maybe he won't kill innocent people to stop us from doing this it's like no if you do
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this you get out of order like we will come in with the Army and you will get killed still don't think that's leadership
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we're good leadership it's not great okay yeah okay no definitely real scary yeah
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the bellisar essence troops go in and they kill 30 000 people in the Hippodrome so like think of the
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logistics and how gross this is in the I read a Smithsonian article and um they
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quoted an author John Julius Norwich on his history of Byzantium and he says
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quote within a few minutes the angry shouts of the great Amphitheater had given place to cries and groans of
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wounded and dying men soon those two grew quiet until the silence spread over the entire Arena it's sand now sought in
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with the blood of its victims yeah the outcome is that you know the
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people kind of were like they stop writing and and Justinian became became
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powerful again like you said it was a controversial decision you know and it's been criticized by history because a lot
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of the people were were you know unarmed unarmed civilians but it also has been
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like seen as necessary as history to prevent future upright uprisings so it's kind of like in a smaller scale like
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dropping the nuclear bomb you know like do you do it to like stop further war is
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it Justified I'm trying to I'm trying to put this in context that I would understand and because you brought up January 6th already I'm like how would I
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feel if like the National Guard or whoever just like mowed people down as they like entered the Capitol Building
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then I was like yeah
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I know no I would feel terrible you know like people are dumb but you can't do that
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and but if they did do that then you definitely have like a whole new feeling about the government where you'd be like
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legitimately very very very very scared yeah it's like it's like a two-pronged thing one is like the moral implications
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are just doing that to another human and then there's the like democracy
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ramifications like what does that actually mean for the country as all so yeah exactly generally yeah probably not
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a good move no and but you know it was for Justinian he got he was still
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Emperor he was Emperor for another 33 years after this so he definitely like
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held on to his spot he wrote a Justinian Code which is like something that's a basis for law for a lot of Europe still
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he rebuilt the isophia did a bunch of like stuff for like education um with Theodora she died in 1548. he
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lived longer he died in that 15. in 548 she died in 548 he died in 565 at the
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age of 83. so he you know got to live a long life as Emperor he was succeeded by
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his nephew Justin II and he had been a co-emperor for for a little bit and it
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just kind of continues like you know nephews and Sons and eventually you know there's more more tragedy and you know a
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thousand years later the Ottoman Empire takes over all kinds of stuff happens in this part of the world would probably come back to it but that's the story of
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Justinian and how he ordered 30 000 people at least to be murdered to
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maintain power I don't know is that good or bad I don't know was it what's it was Theodore the one who who kind of
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convinced him to do it what was what would their life have been like if they weren't together was it always a powder
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keg so I don't know let's think about very bloody I'm gonna see what the largest Rebellion death is in the world
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okay 20 to 70 million whoa well that's like over a long time not like a day uh I
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don't know I don't know what this Rebellion is taiping what is that okay so yeah that would have been over the
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course of 16 years or 14 years that would have been a long Rebellion okay that sounds like a war that does not
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sound like a one-day Rebellion thing yeah um no this was like it was like five
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days so five days from the first mini Rebellion five days later or ten days so
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five days later is um the two men survive the attempted hanging they have another race
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um on the 15th that's when the riots start and by like the 19th he has everybody killed so it happens real fast
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wow it's a rough January for the folks of France yeah I'm kidding
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interesting I wonder if those two guys may not alive completely that's a good question maybe they are
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had already left and been like like get out of here while the iron is cool yeah
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yeah I like it um can I make a special request since you're the history buff
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yeah okay I should probably know more about my ancestry than I actually do so can
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you do can you like do one on Persia yeah
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I've heard I've been there a little bit
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well we were kind of there well ancient Persia was kind of like coming down during the um into India for like the Taj Mahal
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there was like Persian and stuff in there but let's definitely do more so I see
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yeah it's so much of the same place like yeah yeah
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that whole part of the world just seems like there's like a million ancient stories of things
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I'll find some I mean there's so much cool stuff that happened down there so for sure do you have any special
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requests for me Taylor um no I haven't thought about it but I will
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think about it this is a new segment called special request corner special request Corner we also are
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accepting special requests from you oh like I'm gonna do the one my cousin sent me one to look at and so yeah any
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