Picture it: It's 1930s Germany, and you just want to get out, so you go to a remote island in the Galapagos to start a homestead and be left alone. Then you start to get neighbors. Some are normal (babies, donkeys, etc.). But others are a wild trio of pretend aristocrats who yell and shoot into the air and really ruin the island vibe. Join us to learn the wild story about to be told in the movie Eden, starring Jude Law! #GalapagosAffair #FloreanaMystery #GalapagosHistory #TrueCrime #UnsolvedMystery #GalapagosScandal #DrRitterMystery #BaronessWagner #FloreanaIsland #IslandIntrigue #GalapagosIslands #HistoricalMystery #IslandDrama #ExpatsGoneWrong
Picture it: It's 1930s Germany, and you just want to get out, so you go to a remote island in the Galapagos to start a homestead and be left alone. Then you start to get neighbors. Some are normal (babies, donkeys, etc.). But others are a wild trio of pretend aristocrats who yell and shoot into the air and really ruin the island vibe.
Join us to learn the wild story about to be told in the movie Eden, starring Jude Law!
#GalapagosAffair #FloreanaMystery #GalapagosHistory #TrueCrime #UnsolvedMystery #GalapagosScandal #DrRitterMystery #BaronessWagner #FloreanaIsland #IslandIntrigue #GalapagosIslands #HistoricalMystery #IslandDrama #ExpatsGoneWrong
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Fars joins us with a crazy story about California this weekend
>> Taylor: In the matter of the people of state of California versus Orenthal James Simpson, case number ba zero nine six. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
>> Farz: Taylor, we're here and, we should do an intro because you have some crazy stuff to tell me.
>> Taylor: Oh, my God. I have a crazy fucking story to tell you. welcome to doomed to fail, where the podcast that brings you to history's most notorious disasters and epic failures. Twice a week, every week, I am Taylor, joined as always, by fars. And, Oh my goodness. So fars, you're in Texas.
>> Farz: It's true.
>> Taylor: This is not. It's just whatever. I'm in Joshua Tree. Did you see the news of what happened here this weekend?
>> Farz: No.
>> Taylor: Okay. We had a wild fucking going into the weekend. So Friday it rains. It's not like part of the story, but like torrential downpours. And I do the thing that I do, like the California thing where I stand outside and stare at it and I'm like, what is this?
>> Farz: I love it. Yeah.
>> Taylor: I'm like, is it, is it, is there water coming from the sky? Like it's thundering? And I'm like, what is that noise? Like I've never heard thunder before.
>> Farz: Taylor, my, my twitter profile picture is a picture of me, Thomas and Ryan in la, looking out the window of our office. Because it was raining that day.
>> Taylor: You can't stop staring at it. You're like, what is this? What's happening? So anyway, the rain stopped, there were puddles, everything was fine. So at 330 in the morning, my husband says, taylor, taylor, there's gunshots. There's gunshots. Wake up. I live in the middle of fucking nowhere. I live on the top of a hill next to a mountainous across. It's hard to explain, but behind my house, my house goes down and then back up another mountain. On, the top of that other mountain that I can, like, see from my house is a house. That house is by itself. And it has the longest, steepest driveway I've ever seen that goes all the way down. And I can see that house really clearly from my house, even though it's like pretty far away. So it's 330 in the morning and there are like a dozen cop cars at this house across the backyard. They are looming up the big driveway. They are there. Sirens on. All these things are happening. Juan swears he heard gunshots. We're just staring at it. And the cop car is like, keep coming, keep coming. We're like, is someone in the house, like, shooting someone? Like, what is going on? And then, so we, like, make sure all our doors are locked, make sure that our cameras are on. And then in the morning, here's what happened. This guy, they. I don't know what happened. I don't know why they chased him, but they chased him from Riverside, which is like a hundred miles away.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: Like, so far away from me. They chased him all the way from Riverside into Joshua Tree. So this person, this, like, 20 year old dude. I don't know. I don't know if you stole a car. I don't. Nothing. But he. They had, like, a chase all the way through the mountains into Joshua Tree. He gets into this neighborhood and he goes up this driveway that I'm sure he thought was a street, and then he's at a dead end. So he gets out of the car at 330 in the morning, starts shooting up at the police. No one got hurt. that's what Juan heard and woke him up. And then the guy goes down and he went not in our direction. He went in the other direction and he disappeared into the neighborhood. They found him 12 hours later, like, a couple blocks from us, just walking around. I heard a rumor that he was in an Airbnb and that he had, like, fallen asleep and there was, like, a family there that didn't speak English. They called the police, but I don't know if that's true. But I do know that people had pictures of him, like, walking around the streets because our whole neighborhood was on lockdown and we left and, they, like, searched our cars on the way out. It was wild.
>> Farz: Man, I miss California.
>> Taylor: I do misses here.
>> Farz: So many cars.
>> Taylor: I never thought there'd be one here. This isn't really a car chase place.
>> Farz: Joshua trees are weird. Yeah, that's that one. I mean, I would be. Yeah, I. Yeah, I mean, when we used to live in LA, though, like, that was all the time. All the time. All the time.
>> Taylor: There's a car chase tv all the time.
>> Farz: Stop what you're doing and watch tv and you watch the car chase. Yeah, yeah. Or the best was when the helicopters were overheading, like, all right, who is it? Who is it? Where's the floodlight pointing?
A man allegedly had a gun and was chased by police in Texas
>> Taylor: Exactly those constantly. yeah, it's an hour and 13 minutes between, like, riverside and where I.
>> Farz: Am, like, yeah, Riverside. Riverside's like, that's more la. Like, it's not LA. It's like more la.
>> Taylor: You have to go through the mountains, which is really wild.
>> Farz: Sorry, what was he accused of doing stealing a car?
>> Taylor: I don't know.
>> Farz: There's shot at police. Like, you don't shoot at police for.
>> Taylor: No, I don't know what he did. No, I don't know. I know that he abandoned the car at the house. That. That's like, I can see from my house because he had nowhere left to go. But I don't know if it was his car. I have no idea. I don't know what he did and what. Why they chased him, but he. The pictures that I'm walking around, around, he's like. He's like a very little guy, and he's just, like, walking around. It's like, what are you gonna do? There's nowhere to go. Like, You can't walk out of Joshua tree. You'll die.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: In the desert, you know? So, yeah, it was wild. Everybody was very relieved when he was caught so we could move on with our day.
>> Farz: I mean, it is like, I've had this thought. I mean, I don't. I mean, I don't know why I'm saying this out loud, but I don't own a gun. Mostly because I have Luna, and Luna's just like. I mean, anybody who sees her is like, I don't need to be here, you know?
>> Farz: but I've thought I should probably get a gun, because if a situation were to arise when it was, like, I literally had no other choice but to use it, I'd want to know that I have the choice, you know? And this guy apparently had a gun.
>> Taylor: He for sure had a gun. I don't need a gun. I'm not going to shoot my gun across, like, I don't know. I can't do distance really far away across a mountain and possibly hit a guy when cops are next to him.
>> Farz: So here's also the other thing that I kind of love about Texas is the concept of the mutual assured destruction piece, where you kind of almost don't need a gun because everybody assumes you already have one.
>> Taylor: You know, my dad always talks about how in Florida there, like, you know, he. There's a guy he knows who's a pizza cook, and he, like, holds his gun on his whole holster while he's cooking pizzas at a restaurant. You know, you're like, it's dangerous. He's like, you should be around all that heat. I don't know.
>> Farz: Yeah. Yeah.
>> Farz: That's scary, though.
>> Taylor: Yeah, it was scary. I. Juan was like, I didn't. I texted my neighbor, and she was like, I didn't wake up. My daughter did. But, like, what? It's a weird thing because you're like, where would that possibly be coming from? There's, like, very little things around here, you know?
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: Very few things around here.
>> Farz: Wow. Okay. Well, while Walt. Stuff. Walt.
>> Taylor: It was a wild Friday night Saturday.
>> Farz: I didn't have as eventful, eventful the weekend as you did, thankfully. So.
>> Taylor: Good. I'm glad.
>> Farz: cool.
Are you emotionally and do I look very pink
Well, should we dive in?
>> Taylor: Yes.
>> Farz: Are you emotionally and do I look very pink?
>> Taylor: I scratched myself a long time ago, and then it. I was working on something that was kind of rusty, and then it started bleeding again, but, like, I don't think it hit the rest. But I'm nothing. Not sure. How would I know if I had tetanus? I've been looking it up, but now I feel like I look very pink.
>> Farz: I don't think you look pinker than normal, but I feel like I look brighter than normal. And I don't know if it has to do with the screens or what.
>> Taylor: This isn't about you. Possible.
>> Farz: Sorry. Sorry. Of course. I make everything about me.
Taylor: I'm going to tell us a story that is unknown
Okay, so, Taylor, you're going to have to help me come up with the. So I'm going to tell us a story that is very first today. Oh, shit. Do you.
>> Taylor: You can go if you want to, if you're already in a role.
>> Farz: I'm in a mood.
>> Taylor: Go. You go.
>> Farz: I'm sorry.
>> Taylor: It's okay.
>> Farz: I'm excited about this story because this story, I've. I can't believe that this is unknown and I've never heard of it. It's one of those.
>> Taylor: Because my only. My only caveat to me going first was I was going to mention that I hope you're not doing 911.
Okay, so you're gonna have to help me come up with a name for this episode
Okay, well, now that I know you're not continue, then we're covered.
>> Farz: so you're gonna have to help me come up with a name for this or a title for this episode. I don't even know what to call this. The title that I put in my outline is called the Galapagos Affair, which is actually the name of a super obscure documentary about this story, that seemingly nobody's seen. I tried to watch, like, I watched a little bit of it earlier today. It's totally free on YouTube. And all the comments were like, how does nobody know about this? It's really cool. So cool. You'll have to think of a name for this title because we can't use that, probably.
>> Taylor: Yes, you can. I think. I feel like I learned from last podcast that you can't copyright titles.
>> Farz: I think that is just book titles.
>> Taylor: Boo. Okay, continue.
>> Farz: But we also. None of this is monetized either. So, like, who cares? Yeah, there's that.
>> Taylor: Continue.
My story today is going to cover a tropical murder mystery on a remote island
>> Farz: okay, so my story today is going to cover a tropical murder mystery on a remote island named Floriana. Florian. Floriana island, which is part of the Galapagos island chains. So this story kind of peeks out of the late thirties, late twenties, mid thirties. That's kind of the timeline we're talking about here. But I just.
>> Taylor: I just got the urge to raise my hand like I'm actually in a meeting with you. How do you raise my hand? I have a stupid question. How do you raise your hand?
>> Farz: You nailed it.
>> Taylor: where are the galapagos islands?
>> Farz: They're off, the coast of Ecuador in the Atlantic Ocean.
>> Taylor: Atlantic. Got it.
>> Farz: Yep. So, our story, weirdly, enough, kind of starts in, like, re Hitler rise in Germany. So I'm going to do, like, a super bullet pointed version of this, where we're going to start in Germany in the twenties as a backlog to kind of set the. Set everything up here so quick. World history, folks. 1921 is when Hitler became head of the nazi party. 1923 is when he attempted to overthrow the Weimar Republic as part of the failed beer push haul. Beer hall. Pushed.
>> Taylor: Beer hall. Pooch. Pooch.
>> Farz: I think it's Pooch. You're the resident german expert, so I know.
>> Taylor: Good for me. Pooch. P u t s h. There you go.
>> Farz: 19, 24. He is released from prison and had written mein Kampf, which was gaining traction in american or, the german populace. And then he regained the party control and started rebuilding the nazi party. 1929 was kind of the inflection point for Hitler. That was, like, when the Great Depression crippled Germany's economy. And one of the reasons why they were like, we'll go with anybody but what we currently have. And Hitler was, like, a great solution to them. So if you were a politically attuned German at this time, you kind of saw the writing on the walls, right? Like, you knew where this was head. This was not going to claw itself back at this point.
Two Germans decide to settle on isolated island of Floriana during 1930s
Our main characters for this story are two such personally attuned individuals. One, doctor Friedrich Ritter and his partner, lover, girlfriend, whatever you want to call her. Doris Dot. They were Germans who saw the direction the world was going in and decided they didn't want to be a part of it, and they wanted to kind of pursue more of a Robinson crusoe lifestyle, thinking that that would kind of be the way to get away from what was inevitably heading their way, which was obviously world War two.
>> Taylor: Fair seems like reasonable. They were right.
>> Farz: They were right. Well, m maybe they shouldn't have left.
>> Taylor: Because they're going to get murdered, probably.
>> Farz: No, no, we don't know anything yet, Taylor. Don't ruin it.
>> Taylor: But but also, they. I don't think they. I think they were probably correct about fair.
>> Farz: So they wanted to live a self sustaining life away from the rest of the world, and they thought to do it on this isolated, uninhabited island of Floriana. Neither of them had ever visited Floriana, but the island was well documented by pirates, whalers, Charles Darwin, and different navies around the world that were kind of used as a waypoint, so.
>> Taylor: Funny. well, the pirate said it was okay, so I'm gonna go.
>> Farz: Well, there's a reason for this, so if you want to get away from everything, this is a great place to go. Because it was uninhabited. It had accessible fresh water. The climate was great and very conducive to growing plants. The environment was green. It was lush. There was a ton of wildlife around. It was wildlife that wasn't going to kill you, too, which was also huge. So it was actually a really good spot to do this in. So in 1929, as Hitler's rising in Germany, Friedrich and Dory, they left their home in Germany and made their way to Floriana to establish a homestead on the island. They built a home. They planted vegetables, they raised chickens. They would eventually become known to the general public. And the reason for this was that whalers and other travelers to Floriana had established kind of like a DIY post office on the island, where people could just throw mail in a barrel on the north side of the island. And anybody who was passing through who was stopping there could stop, sift through the letters, see what was going, the direction they were going, and they would just take the mail and deliver it.
>> Taylor: It was wild that anything got delivered.
>> Farz: It worked. It actually worked really well.
>> Taylor: Yeah, they say that in Moby Dick, too. They're just like, you just give letters to every ship you can find and hope that someone gets it to your family.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: Okay.
>> Farz: What else are you gonna do? so, again, this ended up working pretty well because people would stop by, they would meet the two, they would give, them supplies. And then these actions of these fuel kind of stopping by as a waypoint on this island kind of turned Friedrich and dory into, like, international celebrities in 1932, motivated by the fact that the Nazis had now won 37% of the votes in the Reichstag and inspired by media reports about Dorian Friedrich, the Whitmer family, who was a husband and wife and their one son, decided to, you know what? We're going to uproot ourselves as well and go live on this island, too, with these guys. And they'd be so mad. Yes. Yes. That's literally the next point.
>> Taylor: I'd be mad if someone bought, like, built a house in the lot next to, mine.
>> Farz: Yeah, 100%. One of the comments. So you're right, these, these two groups of settlers didn't like each other, which I'm going to go into here in a second. But one of the comments I read about this whole issue was, imagine. Sorry. It was something along the lines of the fact that these people got into, like, a massive dispute in a fight, fight with each other while settled on isolated island. that was totally uninhabited is the most german thing in the world. Sounds right.
>> Taylor: Also, just like, super inevitable. Like, the fuck. You can't just move there. Someone already lives there.
>> Farz: So as we're kind of alluding to, the original two settlers obviously disliked that this family, the Whitmer family, were setting up shop there. They basically told him, m go on the other side of the island. Just leave us alone. Get away from us. We never want to see you. And they agreed. They went to the other side of the island, and despite tension between the two groups, they were mostly respectful and just kept themselves and just gave each other kind of a wide, wide berth on this.
>> Taylor: Eventually, between them.
>> Farz: I don't know.
>> Taylor: Okay.
>> Farz: Yeah, I don't know. Eventually, Margaret Whitmer, the wife, gave birth to a son named Rolf on, in a cave that they had been occupying on the island. So now it's two groups and six people on island. By the way. They tried to get Doctor Friedrich to help with the earth. She was four months pregnant when they moved to this island. Can you imagine Juan coming to you when you're, like, three and a half months pregnant and being like, let's give up everything and go to this island?
>> Taylor: No. Can you imagine being like, why don't you have your baby in this cave? First one? That's one part point also, like, I'd be so mad also if the people came with a baby. And I love babies, but I'd be like, no, I sure your sentiment.
>> Farz: Yeah, I sure your sentiment.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: So they actually asked the doctor, the only doctor.
>> Taylor: Well, sure. He has to help. Did he help? He has to help.
A third group of settlers arrived on Floriana in 1933
>> Farz: No, you refuse. He was like, just go get birth on your own. Yeah. He was like, he can't help.
>> Taylor: Okay.
>> Farz: I mean, he literally left civilization to not work.
>> Taylor: No, I know that.
>> Farz: He showed up with a pregnant woman.
>> Taylor: I mean, I'd be really mad.
>> Farz: Yeah. What are you gonna do? So there's a happy. There's. There's a quiet but happy ish tension that is going on in the island at this point. People are mostly just getting along with what's going on. Until 1933. So this is four years after the original settlement. A year after the new settlement, a third group of settlers arrived to the island. This is where things go haywire. So this is a group of folks. it's Elisa Weirborn, who arrived on the island with her two lovers, a guy named Rudolph Lorenz and Robert Phillipson, along with an ecuadorian servant named Manuel Valdeviso. So she was the boss, and she came with these three guys, basically.
>> Taylor: Are they all german as well?
>> Farz: I want to get into that.
>> Taylor: Does Germany own this island? Can you keep going?
>> Farz: No, no, Germany has. No, no, there's no claim to this island.
>> Taylor: Is Ecuador on the island?
>> Farz: Ecuador on this island now. But back then, no. No country laid claim or ownership of this island.
>> Taylor: Got it. Thank you.
>> Farz: So this group really wasn't like the others. so first off, I called her Elisa Weirborn. That's actually not what she went by. She went by the name and title of Baroness Eloise Weirborn de Wagner Bosquat. And she poses austrian nobility. She was nothing.
>> Taylor: No, that's terrible. She's the one that came with the three dudes.
>> Farz: Yes. She would claim she came to Floriana with the ambition of developing it and building a large luxury resort on the island, which is like the exact opposite of what these people wanted. She was described as loud, brash, disrespectful, somebody that lacked all boundaries and just, generally just the kind of neighbor you just don't want to have around.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: One thing the other sellers had done was write about their day to day lives and then leave them in that barrel. I mentioned to you before, the little mini DIY post office on the north end of the island. And those would get picked up and published once they reached the mainland. That's how they became like international celebrities, basically, is just through. That means. over time, the other settlers noticed that publications were being dropped off for them, didn't include stories about their exploits, about their lives. Instead, the article would be about empress, of Floriana island, which was this Lisa woman as she had kind of styled herself.
>> Taylor: Oh, my God. Even more mad.
>> Farz: So she was taking their letters out, destroying them, and then replacing them with letters of her own, saying that she's the empress of the island. So Elise and Robert. So Robert was one of the two lovers. they would also take to regularly beating and just generally abusing Rudolph, on a semi fairly consistent basis. He was, like, the third in the throuple. they would do this to the point where he would run away to the Whitmer residence seeking refuge, before eventually being coaxed back to the group, usually by Lisa, until on March 27, 1934. So a little less than a year after they arrived to the island, Robert and Elisa basically disappear from the island. And we literally, to this day, have no idea what happened to them.
>> Taylor: Are they the original ones?
>> Farz: No, the Elisa is the ringleader of the third group.
>> Taylor: Got it.
>> Farz: She's the one with Rudolph and the baroness? Yes, she's a baroness.
>> Taylor: Okay.
>> Farz: So Margaret Whitmer told people that Elisa had come to her that morning and told her that her and Robert would be catching a ship to Tahiti that day, but all their possessions were still on the island. No ship was going to Tahiti that day, and no ships had stopped on Floriana either. Dory, who's part of the first settler group with Friedrich, she would claim that on this day, she heard screaming somewhere on the island, incessant screaming throughout the island. The obvious question is, so where was Rudolph, the abused throuple in the group? Right after this happened, Rudolph apparently caught a ride on a small boat operated by some norwegian fishermen, and they were headed to San Cristobal island, about 45 miles east of Floriana. the idea was, the conjecture is that Rudolph was trying to island hop his way, eventually back 600 miles over to Ecuador to catch a fly and go back home. That's. That's the prevailing theory. So he catches a ride with his fishermen to an island that is directly east 45 miles of Floriana. Instead, him and the fishermen are found 100 miles north of Cristobal island on Marchane island. And a fisherman off the coast of Marcheny island found, essentially, their mummified bodies. Marceny was inhabitable because there was no fresh water sources, and so they literally died of dehydration. And they just mummified m after several months of being on the shoreline, essentially.
>> Taylor: Wow.
>> Farz: we don't know what happened to that servant, Manuel that I mentioned earlier. They came over with the baroness, but seemingly, he was nowhere to be found. It was assumed that he just caught a boat back to Ecuador because he was actually ecuadorian and just lived his life. And nobody knows what happened to that guy. You look like you have questions.
>> Taylor: No, I feel like, good for him. Even though he maybe murdered them?
>> Farz: We don't know.
>> Taylor: Yeah, but they were, like, being really mean to him, right?
>> Farz: So we don't probably, I mean, they were beating the shit out of Rudolph, so they're probably being mean to the servante. And Rudolph was in the relationship, so.
The settlers of Floriana island say Friedrich died of food poisoning
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: So after Elisa and Robert had disappeared and before the discovery of Rudolph's body, another mystery hit. The settlers of this island, Friedrich, died of food poisoning. It was said that he had eaten a very badly preserved chicken, which kind of almost makes sense, but for the fact that Friedrich was a lifelong vegetarian and didn't eat chicken. The chicken was there for the eggs and feathers and things like that. It wasn't there for him to consume it. Secondly, Margaret Whitmer was there when he died with Dory. So, Dorian, Margaret were over him when he died. And she would recount that this is her recollection of the events when the moment his life passed, the he that I'm going to refer to is Friedrich, and the she is Dory. This is all being reflected by Margaret. So this is the quote. Whenever she came near him, he would make feeble movements as if to hit or kick her. He looked up at Dory, his eyes gleaming with hate. He wrote his last sentence, quote, I curse you with my dying breath.
>> Taylor: That's a great rate. Last words.
>> Farz: He has his eyes filled with a wild, feverish flame. Dory shrieked and drew back in horror. Then he collapsed soundlessly, falling back on the pillows. He was gone. That's Margaret's recollection of the exact moment when he died in front of her and Dory.
>> Taylor: Wow.
>> Farz: So eventually, Dory would go back to Germany and claim that Rudolph killed Robert and Elisa. And that the Whitmer family helped him get rid of the bodies. And also that Friedrich died of food poisoning. That's her story. And, like, in some ways, it's kind of plausible, because it was well known that they would beat the hell out of Rudolph. And Rudolph would only be able to seek refuge with the Whitmer family. And, like, just go into their little cave, and they would take him in.
>> Taylor: Right.
>> Farz: The Whitmer family would stay on the island and eventually build, you know, a Galapagos island version of a hotel. I looked it up. It's like, it's, it's basically like little houses and cottages and stuff like that.
>> Taylor: People love that shit. Yeah.
>> Farz: Yeah. And so they would build that. They were catered to tourism. Margaret would claim that the story about them going to Tahiti was true. So she stuck with, hey, they left for Tahiti. We have no idea what happened. And also that Dory killed Friedrich. Apparently, to this day, if you look on trip advisor for Floriana island, the winner family, like, their descendants, they still, like, own the lodges and the. They own the tourism industry on this island. Like, they have boats, they have ship. Like, they do all, all kinds of stuff. Scuba diving trips, all that kind of stuff with tourists here. Dory would die. I think it was 1945, and that's. That's it. Like, there's nobody knows. Nobody knows why Rudolph ended up on this island, completely out of the way of where this fisherman was supposed to be going. Nobody knows, really, the last whereabouts of Manuel, the the manservant. Nobody has any idea where Robert, or Elisa are. Their bodies were never found. And nobody knows if Reed Rook was killed or died of food poisoning. It's just like, they're all gone. Nobody knows.
>> Taylor: Feel like the lesson here is, don't be annoying.
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah, they would have been fine. if that woman hadn't shown up, they would have been fine. Everybody would just kind of live the quiet peace. But. Or, actually, the lesson here, Taylor, is, like, when you're doing cool shit, don't tell people you're doing cool shit.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Somebody will always want to try and come over and try to get a piece of it and fuck it up.
>> Taylor: That's 100% it. Like, don't tell people what you're doing. Don't. People are gonna try to come and be like, oh, I could just imagine her coming off that, off a boat being like, oh, it's so quiet here. But, like, yelling it, you know, I'd be like, fuck.
>> Farz: so one story that they told. So this is like the. This is the 1930s, right? Modesty changes over time. And the way they would describe Elisa was she would be out, like, in the COVID where ships were passing, like, almost naked with a whip and firing guns in the air for, like, the sailors to look at her.
>> Taylor: So annoying.
>> Farz: Meanwhile, this woman's given birth in a cave next to you.
>> Taylor: Yeah. One of the.
>> Farz: The other two, they had to pull their own teeth out of their mouths because they had no healthcare for. For dentistry and build their own metal, teeth that they shared. The. Whatever it is. What do you call those? The fake teeth? Dentures. They made metal dentures. They had to. Meanwhile, this girl, just, like, naked, running around, shooting guns in the air. It's like, yeah, that's fun for, like, a night and then after, like the second, 3rd, 4th, 5th night, like, I'm trying to take care of my hands. Also, there's another story. I read those really interesting, which was somebody, had recounted that the, Friedrich and Dory settlers, they had a donkey. And what happened was that Robert let the donkey out in the middle of the night and like kind of ushered him over to where like, the Whitmer family was sleeping. And he like stomped their vegetation or did something like, he messed some stuff up.
The father, Heinz Whitmer, shot the donkey in the head
The father, Heinz Whitmer, shot the donkey in the head and killed it. And it was because he was like, oh, it must be like feral. Like, why is it doing this? They didn't know. Like, this guy, like riled it up and did whatever. Like, that kind of people just need to, like, great other people, you know what I mean? Wow, is that fun?
>> Taylor: That's so fun.
Taylor: Apparently a movie about Eden is about to be released
>> Farz: So the movie, the documentary that's on Netflix is called the Galapagos Affair, Satan in the Garden of Eden, which is like a super fun title. Apparently a movie just came out like a, like a year ago, or like it just is finishing production or something. I don't know anything about it. I didn't watch the trailer for that, but I think it's called Eden. I think the movie is literally just called Eden. Hold on, look.
>> Taylor: That's, hilarious. And so I see Eden.
>> Farz: Oh, no, it says 2024. So, yeah, I don't even know if it's been released yet.
>> Taylor: Jude Law is in it. Oh, wait, okay, so the film is Sydney Sweeneye. Well, that's fine. It's releasing last week, two weeks.
>> Farz: Oh, no, it says it premiered two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, premiered, but it hasn't been released yet.
>> Taylor: That's fun. That's good timing. Yeah, hilarious.
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah, it's wild. So what I gather is that this Eden film that's about to be released, it is, It's like a fictionalization or something. It's a dramatization.
>> Taylor: You could make it like a horror movie, you know?
>> Farz: Horror movie?
>> Taylor: Yeah, yeah.
>> Farz: A lot of this stuff, nobody knows because the only thing we know about it is what the two survivors tell us, which is Dory Margaret. And then it's the letters that were conveyed. Again, half those, to your point, Taylor, half those probably lost half those weddings. Like, who even knows what happened? Really? All you're getting is like, you're piecing together a story with like, totally inaccurate and incomplete information. but it's so fun. It's so fun. Like, I can't, like, I kind of want to do this.
>> Taylor: I'm trying to understand how big it is, and I can't really understand. It's like 15 km across, and I have no idea how long a kilometer is. How many kilometers is 15 across? So you could be, like, pretty far away from each other.
>> Farz: Yeah. I mean, doing 9 miles, like, I mean, I've done that on hikes before, but, like, I, planned for it. And, like, you know, like, you're not going to do that, like, leisurely, like, nobody's leisurely taking a nine mile stroll.
>> Taylor: No. Ah, no.
>> Farz: well, but, yeah, so very fun. It had that. And you look at these pictures of the island, and it is. I mean, it just looks like paradise. Yeah. Like, it literally looks paradise.
>> Taylor: I mean. Yes. And also I feel there's, like, a lot of mosquitoes there.
>> Taylor: I do feel like you definitely need a doctor, so if you're gonna do this, you should bring a friend who's a doctor. I just. I think that is important, Taylor, whether or not.
>> Farz: I don't think there could be mosquitoes there, could there?
>> Taylor: We watched the deadliest animals. South America show, like, 72 deadliest animals. Anyway, the deadliest is always like, a fucking spider or mosquito.
>> Farz: No, because. Because the thing is, mosquitoes, need mammals to. To survive. And from what I can tell, the only animals that are on the island are giant galapagos tortoises, all kinds of different marine iguanas.
>> Taylor: I still think there are mosquitoes there.
>> Farz: Let's see.
>> Taylor: I just think you should bring a doctor if you're going to do it. Basically is my big thing.
>> Farz: Yeah, it's free. Mosquitoes. Yeah, zoom. Mosquitoes.
>> Taylor: Okay, well, there's definitely spiders.
>> Farz: You're trying to find any reason not to move here.
>> Taylor: I just feel like it's all fun and games until you're making your own teeth.
>> Farz: Yeah, that seemed like an extreme move. I feel like I'd rather have rotted teeth than to pull my teeth out manually.
>> Taylor: No, I don't. I just feel like, yeah, man, I don't know. I think it's better to get it out than you have to get it out, but that.
>> Farz: Yes, it's a hard way to live in.
There is a documentary about the Galapagos affair that's free on YouTube
>> Taylor: what's that movie with Tom Hanks where he's on the island and he has to get the tooth out with the ice? You know?
>> Farz: Did he. Did he throw a rock? He tied his tooth to a rock and then threw the rock off a ledge. Is that what happened?
>> Taylor: No, he used an ice skate because he had an ice cake from the FedEx packages. But you have to get it out because two things are, like, the worst. You can't do anything.
>> Farz: Yeah, you're right. You're right. It's tooth and back pain. Those are the two that kill you. but anyways, so if anybody wants to find it. So there is a documentary. It's actually, again, I didn't watch a lot of it, but I think I've seen it. Cate Blanchett is like, a narrator of it. Like, it's like a. Well, it seems like it must be a well done documentary. And it's on, YouTube. It's totally free. And just Google on YouTube. YouTube. The, Galapagos affair. And it'll come up.
>> Taylor: Oh, I'm turning on the. Oh, that's too good. There was a trailer, but it's not a real trailer. It's a concept trailer. It's dumb. Who cares? Eden. Fun. That sounds like a fun movie. I'll watch it.
>> Farz: Yeah. Yeah. that's all I got today.
Taylor: Anything else before we wrap up? Anything else
>> Taylor: Cool.
>> Farz: What do you got?
>> Taylor: Oh, this is an amazing. Wait, let me show you this. Did you see this image from the movie? Can I share my screen with you? Yeah, how do I do that? Where is it? Chat. Share, screen. This picture of Anna de Armas as the duchess, I assume there's, like, two guys holding her as she gets onto the beach.
>> Farz: That is probably exactly how it was.
>> Taylor: That's so funny. I love it.
>> Farz: I assume the guy in white is Rudolph, because if you look at the real pictures, Rudolph looks like someone that is given wedgies in real life.
>> Taylor: Oh, even this picture, Jude law definitely has these metal teeth. Oh, I see him. All right, well, that's exciting. That'll be fun. cool. Well, thank you. That was fun. my story that I will tell you in our next episode, I found. Because what they want to tell you is our friend Kiara, who is a longtime listener, found a book in her little free library in her neighborhood that was graded greatest disasters in history. And she took a picture of the table of contents and sent it to me, which was very nice.
>> Farz: Thank you.
>> Taylor: So my story that I will tell is from that table of contents, and there's other ones in there, too.
>> Farz: Sweet. Yeah. Anything else before we wrap up?
>> Taylor: Oh, no, I just also was reading. I'm just reading this Reddit page about this movie, eden, and I just read the sentence, just that their characters pull out all of their teeth.
>> Farz: Yeah, I kind of left that for the end. but that was a bit.
>> Taylor: I think that might be worse. Than giving birth. And I don't know, I just. I feel bad saying that bad thing. It might be worse.
>> Farz: I don't see the metal teeth. I'll take your word for it.
>> Taylor: Cause you, like, you, like, recover from giving birth. Anyway, thank you, everyone. If you have any ideas for us, if you see Eden or the Galactica ghost affair, let us know. We're at doom to fail a pod@gmail.com. and doom to fill pod and all the socials and our website doom tofelpod.com.
>> Farz: Dot there's no way this guy made his teeth look the way Jude law. He didn't indent the metal and like, make them look like real teeth.
>> Taylor: This is another thing where you're like.
>> Farz: It'S scary shiny.
>> Taylor: He is.
>> Farz: Yeah. Just do the real story. It's freakier to do the real story than a lie. I don't know.
>> Taylor: You don't know what SD looks like, do you?
>> Farz: That's true. It's true. It wasn't gonna be good.
>> Taylor: No, no.
>> Farz: Anyways. Doomdflpodmail.com that's all I got, Taylor.
>> Taylor: Cool. See you later. Than