This week Farz ended the recording by saying ‘we really phoned this in didn’t we?’ It’s fine! Farz judges books by their cover now, and tells us the confusing and often sad story of Pazuzu Algarad and the people he killed in his very dirty house. Taylor brings us to 1600s America - where the Puritans (who are awful) win over the folks who are trying to have a little bit of fun. Is this how we got here? *Gestures EVERYWHERE* It’s the story of Thomas Morton and William Bradford – Taylor wishes she had more time to read more about this! Follow us on Instagram & Facebook! @doomedtofailpod
This week Farz ended the recording by saying ‘we really phoned this in didn’t we?’ It’s fine!
Farz judges books by their cover now, and tells us the confusing and often sad story of Pazuzu Algarad and the people he killed in his very dirty house.
Taylor brings us to 1600s America - where the Puritans (who are awful) win over the folks who are trying to have a little bit of fun. Is this how we got here? *Gestures EVERYWHERE*
It’s the story of Thomas Morton and William Bradford – Taylor wishes she had more time to read more about this!
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Sources:
I should have read this - Bradford’s Morton: The Lord of Misrule in Early New England
And this In Colonial America, Thomas Morton Took the Pure out of Puritan
I did read ChatGPT and Wikipedia
Pazuzu Algarad pics from Oxygen & Daily Mail
Older pics in the public domain
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Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor
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I'm like lucky I could talk today because I couldn't talk yesterday I sounded very Gravelly
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are you sick yes I've been sick for over a week now oh God yeah you might have
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had what I had that lasts for like three weeks hopefully not yeah okay well I'll kick things off welcome to Doom to fail
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the podcast where me and Taylor just talk about how tired we are until one of us will eventually die
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yes not soon not soon but who knows who
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knows who knows these days Taylor is joining us from Las Vegas I'm in Austin
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as usual I was just in Las Vegas so we miss each other once again but we're gonna see each
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other in Palm Springs in about two weeks give or take so yeah Taylor how are you doing today good I
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just well I just drove here so it was like a four hour drive the kids did really good in the car it was just the three of us and I am yeah I'm good
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they're playing with my mom they brought all their toys they've already made a huge mess I've already eaten a ton of snacks I don't know if you just like eat
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constantly at your parents house but like my mom's house I'm like what can I have for a snack so I'm already in it's not a snacks it's always carbs with my
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parents my mom since she retired just baked cakes and pies all day amazing and
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I'll get there and she's like well I just created a pumpkin cheesecake do you want to try I'm like well that sounds
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unique yeah I'll try that and it's like um by the way here's a chocolate cake as well if you want to try it it's a thing
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after thing after thing you always gain weight when I'm at home but I think that's supposed to happen I think it's supposed to I just had half a box the
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Triscuits and some cheese and salami so I'm ready to go yeah it sounds amazing um so we have our two stories today that
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are red flagging relationships so we're obviously going to be doomed to fail that nobody paid attention to I'm on the True Crime side Taylor on the historical
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side who goes first this week I keep forgetting I think it's you me okay yeah um why don't you tell us your drink and
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then I'll tell my drink and then we can segue into the True Crime cool so this week I'm gonna well I have a sore throat
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like I told you so I really should be hydrating I am hydrating I'm drinking water in real life but my um drink is
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like a a watery ale from like a time when water was not available so all you
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drink was beer that sounds like my time to be alive you know what I mean when like water was like brown and like had
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malaria so you just like drink beer but it's not like you were drinking like a IPA constantly if we have any
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Pathologists that listen to this show can you please let us know if you can catch malaria by drinking it I think you
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can that's how you get malaria it's like in the water or is that cholera cholera is in the water malaria's in the
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mosquitoes I think they have to hyper germanically yeah there you go cholera perfect so my drink is a little bit
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unique this week because our person is kind of unique this week my drink is
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going to be it's got to be alcoholic I'm gonna make a little bit alcoholic just for the hell of it um but it's but it mostly it's comprised
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of um rabbits blood mixed with vodka yeah so I don't actually know how well those blend together but I would imagine
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that the rabbit blood wouldn't no you don't I'm sorry you don't you don't know how well those go together what kind of
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sommelier are you I know right it probably would look like wine a little bit I'm gonna throw up but I would
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assume that the blood would neutralize the harshness of the body or the Vodka might neutralize the harshness of the blood I don't really know I bet it'd be
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really salty though I imagine that I have no I don't know anything about blood but I'm imagining it's like you know when you drink an Irish car buy me
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if you drink it really really fast where it curdles oh yeah yeah that's kind of one of those okay well great I'm excited
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to learn more about this because that's disgusting yeah listeners go ahead and pour yourself a nice steaming glass of
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rabbit's blood and let's get going so the person I'm covering today his name is John Alexander Lawson
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JLo do you know who that is does not ring a bell right now okay you might better know him by the name that he
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legally changed to in 2002 Pazuzu algarad I don't know what that is no way you
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don't know Pazuzu I don't think so okay well well I said I would remember that
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let's give me a fun one okay included one thing about this case I found interesting is that the reports about
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what happened here seemed way way more focused on Pazuzu as a person than the crimes he actually committed he's just
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like such a freak Show like such an anomaly that people were kind of Swept
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Away by him as a person and because of that things like dates motives details around
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the crime even the ages of the victims were kind of hard to come by so for example in some reports that I read they
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say that the victims were 31 and 32 years old others say that they were 37 36 years old some say he was arrested
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for excess Freedom murder in 2012 before he was arrested on first Remer charges others say that murder happened in 2020
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it's like details were kind of hard to come by the only thing that's actually 100 for certain is the search warrant that I
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read because I was generated by the police obviously and so it doesn't have Hard dates on them I'm gonna get to the search warranty later on in the story
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but just highlighting the fact that this guy in his story are kind of hard to
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nail down exactly what happened and when they happen but we're gonna do our best here okay cool
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given what I just said about what a character this guy was uh hopefully some
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of you guys have already heard of him if you have you've mostly heard of him because of his appearance his appearance
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being striking in the most nightmarish way possible okay when should I Google him should I Google him now just wait
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just wait okay yeah you help me win I'll tell you when
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um there's so much to say about this guy but I'll start by pointing out several red flags so you're probably not gonna
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like me saying this Taylor because you're dramatically more woke than I am but one of the biggest red flags here I
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want to call out is stereotyping so Taylor now would be the time I would
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like you to take a look at pazuzu's pictures Pazuzu is spelled p-a-z u z u
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H don't say anything when can I say something are you did you see it I did
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well I see two and I have several thoughts why don't I ask you some questions then
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you can share your thoughts okay let me ask you when you look at a picture of that guy you haven't heard
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his voice you don't really know what his Aura is being in his presence or you know
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whether if you look into his eyes and you think they're a winner to the soul which I know you don't you have no idea what he's like but just look at his
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pictures is that a guy you would want to spend any time with no absolutely not would you want to do drugs with him
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no oh if I I say no because I fear I would die because he doesn't mean he
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does harder drugs than I do so is there any chance if he invited you over to his house you would go to his
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house with him one night no absolutely not it would smell terrible and it would be there'd be bed bugs okay describe
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describe what your thoughts are now so I see and so make sure he has a shaved head
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and he has a lot of face tattoos which is like I'm actually whatever her face tattoos are fine he does have a big tattoo it looks like on his arm it just
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says Satan which makes me laugh so that's hilarious but um also but then other ones he has dreadlocks so I don't
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know if we're stereotyping but white men should not have dreadlocks it's gross okay
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um I'm going to per usual we're gonna combat a little bit on a specific topic you just called out which is face
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tattoos but let me get into the stereotyping piece of this I'm not like everyone should get face
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tattoos but I'm like this is not bad to the world sure continue I'll continue and we'll decide
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that my point around Series so in today's climate and culture it's not
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really super appropriate to say what I'm about to say which is that stereotypes and prejudices actually exist for a reason
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they do they're evolutionary so as humans evolve into what we are today the genes that
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were passed down were the genes of those who could immediately identify danger and had the ability to avoid it so I
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read a chapter on this Treatise this like thesis study um on psychology
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so the book itself is the Cambridge Handbook of the psychology of prejudices the chapter I read on this was chapter 2
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titled evolutionary approaches to stereotyping and prejudices so if you want to check that out you can find it
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you can go to the cambridge's website and they publish all this stuff on their website so you can actually go read it right there
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and it really explains this concept it is a lot of details in there and it breaks down Prejudice and stereotypes
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into different categories like race age sex kinship stuff like that but the simplest way I can kind of sum most of
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it up was this quote that I read there which is this is a quote by viewing a
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particular individual as being like typical members of some group one need not engage in more effort and lengthy
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attempts to understand him or her as a unique individual that's amazing well
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is that it is that quote that Center that quote that's on the end of my rant okay well if I'm if I may right now
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I feel like fair if I'm thinking about like January 6th insurrectionists I don't
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need to know their life to know the way I feel about them you know yeah um so yeah that makes
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sense to me and then also today and next week I'm going to talk a lot about
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the American experience and how we got here and there is some stereotyping involved so the history of stereotyping
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involved in a way that I think connects well we have a through line look at us that rarely happens
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it's not we it happens all the time that's true so so all this say that all this is kind of evolutionary and we are
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by Nature recoiled or drawn to certain people and if you don't listen to that part of
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your brain that tells you to recoil you're basically going to end up with the people that we're talking about on this story so each other one time you
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remember Dan Walmsley right yeah okay so did I tell you how me and my ex-wife accidentally went to his house for like
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a open house yeah yeah and then we like fell in love with the house it was like I forgot where it was it was like I know yeah Cypress Hill
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or something it was it was in this it was a part of La that was definitely not gentrified but it was like kind of almost close to being there at that time
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sort of been like 2016 or 15. and I remember we have like in love with this house but there's like an apartment
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complex next to it and this guy came out of the complex like directly next to the house down in his truck that was parked
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in front of my car and he was just like covered in face tattoos and I was just like I'm not living here I don't give a
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[ __ ] with the house cause like I'm not living next to this dude and I don't know make to your point like maybe this
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guy had a heart of gold I don't know but I just I don't even know anything more about you I don't need to dive into your
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soul like none of that yeah I mean if you have face tattoos
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you're not making the statement come talk to me yeah yeah like my general
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theory on it is like you chose to become a social outcast so like where's my
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obligation line trying to understand who you are so you take a look at this guy Pazuzu which I'm going to describe what you
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just did covered in this nonsensical like prison tax like homemade tattoos on
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his face with dreadlocks as a white guy and we're gonna get to this a little bit later he also shaved his teeth into
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points yeah like do you really need to any and he's
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like hey come on come on over to my house it's like let's do a bunch of math why would you do that like it's such an
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obvious red flag there's yes 100 one thing about face tattoos I
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have seen some beautiful like women like the mayori women who have beautiful face tattoos like indigenous face tattoos are
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cool um no I know we're not I just want to make it clear that's how we're talking about
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and then to actually when you Google this guy the first image is it says
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Pazuzu algarad house debris removal I'm clicking on it but it's pretty much like shovels of garbage so yes I would not go
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to that house yeah we're definitely going we're going into the house we're not going in to the house I love
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hoarders but I'm not gonna go into order's house yeah yeah so it was one thing I wanted
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to highlight here again this is not a love letter to prejudices the same article that I just quoted also there's
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a quote in there saying just because a behavior is an adaptation does not mean it's adaptive I.E beneficial to the
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possessor in modern environments so I'm not saying it's the best in the world but again if a guy who drinks rabbit
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blood and has face tattoos invites you over to his house just say that it's a sign to say no so much has happened in
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the last 10 minutes I forgot about the rabbit blood yeah there you go refill your steaming warm cup of rather
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great I'm glad you brought that back so the name itself Pazuzu is actually from
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ancient Babylon it refers to a spirit which is oftentimes regarded as a demon who has the body of a man the head of a
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lion or dog depending on who you're talking to is Talons for feet wings and a scorpion's tail
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so Pazuzu was actually the demon that possessed Regan in The Exodus movies that was yeah that was like the claim to
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fame for Pazuzu there's actually a ton of scholarly articles about positive Creation The Evolution varying takes on
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how powerful the demon he was so on and so forth you go to worldhistory.com which is where I got a lot of my source
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information on this demon fictitious demon that um that this
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insane person uh named at himself after his last name the last name that he took
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algorad that's the Arabic word for Lord of the locusts
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so that's the headspace individually those are cool things it could have been cooler if he didn't
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uh I mean I I think maybe like disassociated from this person they're
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cool oh I'm getting Google Google just Pazuzu when you get that scary exorcist face yeah yeah it's awesome
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apparently he was mostly a normal kid growing up at around around age eight is
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when his mom put him in some sort of a mental institution because he was acting up and acting out according to one of
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their neighbors and an early babysitter a Pazuzu his mom was kind of a piece of [ __ ] who spent most of her most of his
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childhood leaving me alone him alone to go on dates and was basically constantly drunk
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that sucks so so yeah I can basically say she was a piece of [ __ ] if you
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I mean if you look at like how he turned out if he raised a kid like Pazuzu who was normal by all accounts until
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basically the parent separation of the mom going the route that she went instead you spent all your time pursuing male validation rather than providing
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like enrichment activities for your kids you're kind of a piece of [ __ ] like you're not like really doing your responsibilities as an adult yeah and I
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mean like you can go on dates but you shouldn't leave your children
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alone and like abandoned them yeah or just like totally abandoned them
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which we're all for if you don't want to take care of them yeah yeah yeah yeah well at least a restaurant yeah yeah
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who knows yeah supposed to do here complicated it's a little complicated so
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I I wrote this whole thing about so you basically touched on everything I want to talk about here but I wrote all about his appearance again white guy with long
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dreadlocks I have no clue what the face tattoos are I looked at them for hours and I can't make any sense out of any of
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them in one of them the bald one that you pointed out he also shaved his eyebrows presumably to tattoo the fake
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eyebrow dots that you see on them these are like random symbols like
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they're not tribal he has nothing to do with indigenous no yeah um yeah and then to your point he has uh
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the the word Satan and all caps tattooed on one side along the entire length of
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his arm which like I don't know that one's kind of cool I think that makes me laugh that's funny
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he was he actually was high on meth one day whenever he decided to foul his teeth into points so there was that oh
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my God that's crazy that have you ever seen when people get veneers that they have to do that first have you ever seen
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that if you get like really like like rich people if they get like really really fancy veneers first the dentist
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literally has to file down their real teeth and then pop their veneers and over it and you're like you just lost
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your real teeth what is a veneer like a very like a like a perfect tooth that
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you like put over your teeth so like someone has like a really perfect smile like it's not real you know it's like
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it's fake like it's when you have jacked up teeth basically yeah you get them fixed okay
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but to get them to get them like it's like really expensive veneers like getting like getting dentures
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but you don't need them yet just live with a lot of faces for a year yeah it's gross um oh also I guess this is not
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this is not time for me to share this thought but I can Invisalign Is Not
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Invisible I can see it everyone America I just want you to know right now if you're like oh I haven't missed line no
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one can see it I can see it I don't really stare at people's mouths I wouldn't even know someone possible
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not to see it like makes your teeth look like they're fused together and it's full of spits and it's gross and I can
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see it I mean again you're redoing but like just like let's not pretend it's visible keep playing okay oh my God it's
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gonna be a five hour long episode [Laughter] I was writing my notes last night I have
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24 pages of notes I don't even know if I have a story to tell so I'm so excited to get to mine too so just keep going okay okay we're gonna we're gonna
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Soldier on okay so Pazuzu lived in uh Clemens North
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Carolina which is a suburb of Winston-Salem and I did hear his voice and he does sound like a southern hillbilly we are going to right outside
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we're going to Winston-Salem no we're not we are Chase we're that is where Jay
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is but their wedding is in Asheville North Carolina yeah
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you already have the invite let's save the date okay okay good I thought that he
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deliberately Uninvited me he like told me he's engaged and then like made a point not to send me the invite
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so yeah go back to Pazuzu uh he's one of those guys who kind of like to Free People out so apparently after 9 11 he
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would dress as a jihadist like just one of those guys that wants to scare everybody I think that's also partially why he went the whole satanic demonic
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route because in South Carolina everybody loves yeah everybody loves Jesus and he just walks around like a psychopath
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apparently despite everything I said about stereotypes a ton of people ignored the red flags and his house was
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apparently chock full of kids who wanted to party and be in his presence
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I kind of equate him to raspoon because he had this like dark Vibe mysterious vibe to him and kind of
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reminding your recipe in a little bit and if you're in that if you're in that kind of person that's attractive to a
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certain point of time in your life and so like being a kid being a teenager
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wanting drugs yeah yeah yeah that guy's cool yeah he was like an older guy
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though like he was in his like 30s oh yeah there's always that guy and his mom lived in the house with him
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and like she was just like he was like Cartman from South Portland you just like it make his mom make him sandwiches
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and like go buy him beers like 33 years old like it was kind of the meatloaf yeah
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yeah I wrote that one one of the guys was interviewed was this guy named Crazy Dave Adams who was one of his friends
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who would always go to his house I'm just painting a picture of the type of people that are there this guy's sitting on this like disgusting couch getting
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interviewed by Vice he's holding a beer can in one hand while he's smoking a cigarette with his shirt off and he has
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all these just like trash tattoos crazy he was definitely fit for the name
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he has the word insane in all caps tattooed like under his neck like that's a those are the people that we're
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talking about hanging out at this house that's the thing yeah it's a look it's a Vibe I wrote down the house itself
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seemed to be its own entity anyone who went near the house would unanimously say it smelled awful and that people
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there were regularly peeing and taking shits on the floor in the open what is
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but his mom was there she had her own room and apparently she just did not leave that room all right she's also a
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bad mother she also she has her terrible [ __ ] going on yeah it's like those moms were like my son's
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my best friend and it's like you really need to yank the chain every now and then on yourself my best friend but he's six
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well okay now that's slightly different so there was also obviously like they
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would all talk about like how he would just constantly slit the throats of rabbits or cats that you would find and
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pour the blood all over him or he was just like yeah I can't and just hang it on a tree outside like he was
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he was invested in this lifestyle thanks okay this is probably not going to be a
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surprise to any of you who've looked up this guy's pictures he had a serious serious problem with drugs and alcohol
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and he also was reported to have schizophrenia no and he was supposed to be on medication it's a switch he didn't
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have a chance really yeah he was [ __ ] like he had no chance he had
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schizophrenia that was mostly untreated and he was self-medicating by taking math acid and alcohol basically yeah
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there's no chance like he needs professional help and that does not sound like something that would ever
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have been like offered to him yeah exactly yeah exactly so uh like I said the mom was in the house and uh she I
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watched an interview with her and like now way after the fact so position is Dad spoiler alert and now the mom when
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you hear her talking she's just so nonchalant about it it's like oh he was just a crazy kid and this
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laughed about how he like was kicked out of the second grade because he just stopped attending classic it was funny
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like not creators don't do that you do that like he's driving himself to school and not going it's actually really your
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point I didn't think about that you know like I mean like I get like a high school or not going to school that's
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like on their own volition but a second grader can only go to school if he breaks up to school yeah yeah that's
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actually a really good point um the house again all of it except the mother's room was
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just wrecked there was a there's actually a ton of footage of police body cams going inside the house I love this
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one of the officers on the body cam says quote this guy's got a bad case of whatever he's got which is like the most
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southern way of saying this guy's [ __ ] up like he was just so nice about it you know what I watched this week that
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reminded me of that do you know the the rapper Afroman yeah yeah I watched the
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video of the cops in his house no I didn't see it but I heard about it it's yeah it's pretty amazing it's like he
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has his own security cameras the cops went into his house to like find drugs and kidnapping victims which makes no
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sense and he was like you know and and it's like are you the the song is like are you gonna help me fix my door
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because they like broke down his door and then there's like one cop who's like looking at a cake and he like stops and
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looks at the cake again and like you wouldn't know who they were except the cops sued him because they're embarrassed because he was in the video
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right yeah yeah yeah and it's like you broke into his house for no reason and then
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um just like looked through all this stuff and he's like did you find any children in my CDs because they're going through all the CDs it's really funny
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what a ludicrous I bet his house was nice too it was so nice yeah yeah
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opposite of this yeah yeah so the house obviously there were
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[ __ ] everywhere it looked it kind of looked like an abandoned house with squatters that would be living there he
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had SWAT like a giant swastika painted on the living room ceiling like everything was just spray painted apparently he had a swastika tattoo also
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on his leg but again I don't even think he had any beliefs because I think he just did anything to shock people right
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it didn't it just watered like people who have a reaction rampant untreated
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schizophrenia mixed with alcohol and drugs no it's worth noting that when the crimes
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that we're going to discuss here in a moment came to light the city just leveled the house because it would have cost him a fortune to make it up to code
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in livable so that sounds good so we're gonna get into our second antagonist
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here which was pazuza's girlfriend her name is Amber Birch and she was present for at least one of the murders that and
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helped hide the body of the first victim which we're about to get into she kind of reminds me of like a lost
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kid although I'm using the word kid sparingly here because she was 24 years old but when she met Pazuzu he was 35 so
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the age disparity was kind of a thing I think yeah Amber would eventually plead guilty to
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second-degree murder accessory after the fact to first screen murder and robbery with a dangerous weapon and was sentenced to 39 years wow look I don't
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think that she's innocent because I'm gonna get into what they did together but just choose here with wisely you
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know like it's such a slippery slope like if okay so my weird Edge Lord
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boyfriend beheads a rabbit in front of me what's uh whatever we're gonna bury your body
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next like it just feels like it turned into a very very slippery slope I mean then how do you yeah that's scary yeah
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and then or is it like are you like in a I don't know a thing
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like in like a spiral then then what happens I mean yeah well they were together for
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a long time because we're gonna get into this but the crimes started like originated in 2009 and these people
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weren't arrested until 2014. so like they were in deep yeah wow so getting into the crimes uh again
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details are a little hard to come by we don't know a ton about the motivations for these crimes although the search
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warrant once it was unsealed did State something in there I'll get into that but mostly it's just random it
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seems like it's kind of random there could have just really not been a motive in this we tend to look at this
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as a satanic and demonically possessed crime and just forget the fact that this guy was a drug addict and a schizophrenic he could have made
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something about his mind like anything like that he could have seen the guy on the couch and be like Ah that's a that's
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Jesus I got to shoot him you know yeah Satan isn't real so I think that's also part of the part of the thing yeah
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exactly so he's making it up in whatever way that means you know there's making it up like intentionally to be like
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scare people or he's making it up because he's having a schizophrenic episode and he's just doing it because
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he's anti-social yeah so in October of 2014 the remains of two
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individuals were discovered in positions backyard the two were the bodies of Joshua
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weltzer and Tommy Walsh who had both gone missing in 2009 so Joshua again the
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reports are different here one of the reports said he's 32 when he went missing he went missing in July of 2009
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Tommy was 31 and he went missing a few months later in October of 2009.
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apparently Joshua was shot in the living room and dragged to the basement and Tommy was in the basement where he was
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shot and killed so we they were seemingly buried at the same time because our body was found in the
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same grave so it's theorized that he took Tommy down to show him Joshua's body and then shot him once he shot him
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the body was Joshua dead for months yeah ew yeah the search warrant is going to
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go into a lot of detail about what he did but when it's the house smells like it does
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do you really notice a dead body no that's there for months yeah some random dude took a dump at the
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living room and yeah you're probably gonna pay attention to that first Joshua's former fiancee reported him
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missing in 2009 and specifically named Pazuzu as who she thinks killed him
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apparently this is the part that's a real curiosity with this case apparently as early as 2010 the police had enough
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for a valid search warrant of the property and they kind of almost sort of executed on it but not really it took
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another five years after this report was first brought to light in the evidence needed to search the house was realized
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that police actually went did a full in-depth search of the house it's worth noting that the search warrant itself
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was sealed meaning it would not be made public which is rare in and of itself but Tripoli where when the investigation
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the sentencing is complete so in 2017 is when the first time the
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judge unsealed the original search warrant which was from probably 2010 so
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it's been like seven years that it finally got unsealed and that's where I went when I read and really what it
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talks about what it shows is that they could have solved these crimes in months like obviously this guy's not a master
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criminal he's clearly deranged and insane like he's not like he wasn't gonna get away with this
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and police just didn't do their due diligence in August of 2009 less than
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one month after Josh was a murder a woman named Tarina Billings visited with the police and said that her father had
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visited pazuzu's house and observed a dead body in the basement oh my God yeah
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the father this part that how he tried to cover this up the father told his daughter that the body was covered in a
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plastic tarp and had cat litter and chlorine around it to help with the odor both those things smell terrible uh yeah
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he also was told by Pazuzu that he had shot the person 10 times quote because
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he was a snitch it's like what you would say right like
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almost cliche he um he even he even knew
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that the body was buried in the backyard like he told him everything he told him every detail he needed to to get arrested and this woman relayed all of
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that to the police it's all in the world well it gets deeper it goes even worse
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it gets worse than that so A month later they also got an anonymous crime stopper tip saying the exact same thing from
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like another source they don't know who it is but it wasn't that the woman who initially told them so please go to the house and they do
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like a basic search and find nothing they talk to Pazuzu with not under not in custody and he says I didn't do
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anything I don't know anything about this you know whatever apparently what happened was the police wanted to go get
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some like device that can identify objects underneath soils they could see
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if there's a body there the University was using it and they decided it's going to execute the warrant without it but
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they just like walked on the property so they didn't actually notice anything because the house is dirty whatever but
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there was no body to be found because they're all in the backyard underground I made better than like years before and
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yeah years before it's like they said grass or the grass already went over and so on so in 2011 pazuza's Mom finally goes to
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Sheriff's Office and tells her that she heard a gunshot at her house and came down and saw Amber holding a rifle and
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Tommy on the ground presumably dead there's so much evidence that came to
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light around this like all these people are just going to the police like please arrest this guy like do anything oh my
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God and they didn't do anything so in 2014 that's when they finally came back to that original search form from 2010
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when a woman named Dixie went to the police and provided a written statement it was like 13 Pages all details of how
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she basically helped Amber the girlfriend dig a grave and dump two bodies in the backyard she even
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specified exactly where in the backyard the graves were dug so
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it was at this point they finally executed the warrant they showed up and they found Joshua and Tommy's
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obviously complete decayed bodies oh my God yeah so obviously position gets arrested
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and that's kind of where the story ends what ended up happening was he ended up dying
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presumably by Suicide while awaiting trial apparently while he was at the first jail which was in Forsyth County
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it was reported by guards and inmates that he would keep biting himself with the sharpened teeth trying to try and
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kill himself and because yeah because his jail didn't have the facility to deal with someone with like obvious
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extreme mental illness issues they transferred him to another jail and it was there that he was found unresponsive
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completely bled out from self-inflicted wounds but what's weird is they'd never found anything that would have cut him
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he had nothing on him there was nothing that he could like there's no glass there was no steel like he just let out
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and they presume he just bit himself hard enough to rip it sounds Shady his death sounds really
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yeah I don't know what that means yeah it's crazy yeah
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I'm reading yeah I'm reading this um this Daily Mail article and it has it
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interviewed one of his friends and the quotes that it highlights are really funny like the friend says it seems obvious now that he had mental health
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issues if you just look at the house you could
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tell that that person is you don't even have to meet the guy just look at his house funny that like you're not even
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mentioning the Satanist stuff but like because that's like he's just doing it to be like edgy edgy but yeah like the this the
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article is like disturbing video of a state in this home and you're like well whatever it's just like a dirty house
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with like I do see the swastika on the ceiling that is definitely bad but like I think that the Satan stuff is
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it's just like what I mean look like I've we've all met these people where they're such
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they devil's real and it's this and like they look at this guy and they they just
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who gives a [ __ ] people can believe whatever they want to believe in it's just like this guy acted on things that were derivative of schizophrenia and
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acid and meth consumption like um you probably would have done this if you didn't believe in Satan didn't have a
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Satan tattoo and like didn't have a space yeah this is a he this is not he's
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not doing great but that's why so much of the story was like obfuscate it was hard to actually fully understand what what really happened and what the
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motivations were like I dug so deep to try and figure out what the motivations were there's three things three details
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that should be obvious that are not obvious one why do you do it in the first place yeah if we could ever find
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that out why do the police finally decide to execute on that search warrant when Dixie came forward instead of the
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previous three confessions of people that came forward and gave details of what happened to these people and then
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oh man I forgot what the third one was
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okay I forgot what the third thing was oh it's deaf like why right like how do
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we not have more details about what happened with that but it all gets obfuscated it's like crazy Satanist did this thing it's like guys like no it's
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just like grip mentally you know yeah that's crazy
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that I mean just it sounds like what a place to like be like there's
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you know tons of drugs and people just like I don't know it's crazy yeah and
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yeah and why I don't even think about that like why are those two guys dead sounds like there's no good reason not
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that there's ever a good reason to kill someone but like why are they why did he kill them but it doesn't say anything or
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why did she or she did it it kind of seems like that Joshua guy was like kind of like a homeless moocher but like you
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look at the Crazy Dave and he looks like a homeless manager too they all look like homeless mutors they all look like garbage [ __ ] trash people like so I
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mean that kind of crazy Dave Crazy Dave this guy but there's a vice did a great
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piece on this story that's worth um looking at because they interview a lot more people involved in the case and
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you get a sense of who who was drawn to him you know so
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that's it wow that's it that's my story don't follow a white guy with dreadlocks
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and face tattoos with sharpened teeth to his house don't hang out with them
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unfurnal on Facebook yeah or like be like hey man get your
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[ __ ] together and then give me a call yeah no don't listen to Taylor there's no help for these people you need to be a little you can you know
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figure something out cool well thank you I had not heard of that I can't believe it
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that's quite a thing yeah what's his name before again John Alexander Lawson
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the nice name yeah yeah he looks like a normal kid you look at his childhood pictures like it was yeah
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but yeah whatever is what it is he's dead now I chewed himself to death maybe maybe we
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don't know there's a mouthful of blood I have more questions um that's gross well I looked at the
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autopsy report too the autopsy report I don't know why they would do this but they actually like drew his tattoos I
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did see that I did have the swastik on his leg I saw that and it's not like he had more wounds because that's like one
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maybe you have a weird yeah so and it also sounds like I guess to
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your second question like it sounds like finally when Dixie went and was like they're literally right here pointing to
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the spot they were like fine fine will go look can we do the least amount of work humanly possible fine I guess we
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have to now you know there's like further shows the corruption of like the prosecution the state yeah we're just
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like we don't care for like some of the same things that like you know you're saying like these people are garbage people who cares maybe you know so
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you're saying I'm more like the prosecution in this case I don't know I'm just saying it sounds a little bit like that
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that's fair that's fair I mean I stereotype we're talking
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stereotypes that's true nothing could possible I go wrong yeah what's happened to me
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all right I'm gonna go to mine let's hear it all right I forgot what you're drinking already oh like a watery
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ale instead of water cool okay so to transition over to history this story
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and next week's story are like an attempt to somehow talk about America and like how it got so weird like it's
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always been weird but like now things are really bad like good versus evil bad
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so for this one my cousin oh yeah actually okay this is like the
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origins of some of our stereotypes is actually also what I'm talking about as well so I'm also put the word stereotype in my notes too so talking about
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stereotypes in a different way my cousin Lindsay who's the smartest of my cousins um suggested this and also her birthday
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was yesterday so happy birthday Lindsay you're the best and I also wrote this very very late last night and I wrote in
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all caps highlighted warning this story contains 843 tangents so it's a lot of tangents in here this is kind of a
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ruling story it's like Story Time with Taylor what's happening right now so come back with me in time to the
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1600s someday I might talk about the Salem Witch Trials it's not today they
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happen like 50 years or so after the story we're going to talk about today and I'm going to talk about Thomas
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Morton and William Bradford one's fun and one is not fun and they sort of
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represented two different Americas and Lindsay my cousin called them that their
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minder of a Harry and a draco which I think totally makes sense like one's fun one's not fun what street
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um from Harry Potter Draco the bad oh Draco malboy yeah so I also like to introduce a new
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segment to the show it is called I already have children and I will have no more here are some names
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I forgot to consider when I was having them and I give them to you you're welcome I
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I'll tell you offline why I'm not but go ahead two names that I forgot to name my
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children um from the Salem Witch Trials are cotton and increase from the who are the
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Mathers who are part of the Salem Witch Trials I just like love those names so much and they're just like so weird they're both bananas like cotton is like
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not a name an increase is like a verb it only works because of the Mathers
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part time is it matters yeah matchers Mathers
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m-a-t-h-e-r-s yeah yeah Mathers yeah yeah Masters so many times it stops making sense
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to start personal contacts one Salem which is we'll talk a little bit about that and then the whole area of like
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Massachusetts in this time like this is like the beginning of of English people
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coming over to America so I'll start with Salem even though it's not what we're talking about we'll talk about it a little bit because it's something that
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like we learn in America very early like we learned this story like really early in school we love it it's like super fun
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we watch the movie or a play of The Crucible we think about how cool it is you look like I know like I don't know
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being a teenage girl in America I feel like you think about this all the time when you're like in that time we also hear that maybe it's like ergot
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the um fungus that could make you crazy and it wasn't um some people might think it was God it wasn't but the feeling that I get that I
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empathize with with the Salem Witch Trials is the feeling of like being a teen girl and being like won't something cool happen ever could something cool
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happen could something have happened to these girls like couldn't something cool happen um but the answer is no like not this doesn't happen and I remember like
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thinking about the Salem witch trials in like this period of time a couple years ago there was a new book written about
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it and I was really excited about it it came out but it was awful it was like unreadable it was really bad so if you do want to read anything about it read
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the Shirley Jackson kind of short essay on it but essentially just like put some context around Puritans in the Salem
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Witch Trials what happened then is Puritans are boring they suck life was
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hard and they make it 100 times harder by being boring and mean so the girls were told again and again that they had
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no purpose they were lonely they were bored they had no future they saw women who were widowed begging door to door
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they tall women alone and dirty poor and hungry they didn't want that they just like wanted something to happen and if
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you just pray all day nothing happens because that's not real so they felt disappointed and betrayed by life so they made [ __ ] up they wanted to be
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touched they wanted to be noticed they wanted to do something that moved any needle before they were expected to be married and have 45 babies and die in
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childbirth like that's what happened but it's still fun too talk about it and think about how crazy everyone got like the crazy message area
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and so many people died you don't think Oregon had anything to do with it no um there would have been other things
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that happened as well it was not like a One symptom thing it's something that other things would have
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happened that did not happen so it was not that okay it was just girls needing attention but yeah but it's still fine
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like I felt like love thinking about it I think it's a great a great story a great piece of our history um
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and then thinking about so there's like that is in the background like people believe in witches they believe in all
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this stuff Massachusetts and they say this in last podcast when they talk about the Salem Witch Trials but like
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Massachusetts is creepy in like the woods and the dark you know have you been there like in like a good big
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Northeastern Woods so I haven't been there but I remember we discussed it I forgot which case it
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was maybe it was the Murdoch case where I discussed like the opposite of um Southern Gothic is American Gothic which
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is like the northern version of that which is awesome like I think I love
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that aesthetic me too it's really creepy it's cool like the um did you see the
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witch that movie I did yeah so like pictures like that like I always I love the part like the very beginning when they're
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leaving the um like the settlement and the gates
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are closing and you just see like everyone's covered in mud and it's raining and there's like a Native American who walks by and everyone just
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looks miserable so like that's kind of happening um I remember in time in high school
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like I went to Massachusetts with some friends and we saw the Blair Witch Project and like lost our minds and then
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like we went to our friend's house and these dudes were like telling a ghost story about the woods and like I thought
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I was going to die like I screamed for hours I was like super fun and like that's what the woods are scary so we're
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like a scary time it's I wanted to like wear all black and a witch's hat but my headphones wouldn't work with that so I didn't do it
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we're witchy in a fun way so I also want to mention that um every Thanksgiving I
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like to yell about how the Puritans left England because they sucked like we were told in America in school that they left
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for Religious Freedom and at least when I was little I assumed that that bent or
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I was told or I believe that it meant you could be whatever religion you want in America was a Melting Pot and it was
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awesome I don't feel like that's wrong and that's not what's happening today either no it's not true it's just
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Christians who want to be the only religion so blah blah so that's the place that we're
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in it's dark and creepy you know we're about to hit the witch trials in a few in like a few decades so people are like
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have they're very very Puritan um at the moment here's this relationship it helps really shape the
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American story of like two different Americas so we're in the early 1600s
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there's Thomas Morton he's the fun one he was a lawyer and a traitor
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who arrived in 1624 from England he settled in an area called Marymount and
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established a trading post there he was free thinking he supported Native American rights which put him at odds
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with some of the Puritans so he was born in 1579 in Devonshire England he went to
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Oxford he sailed to Newfoundland in 1612 and to start a fishing colony and he
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moved to Plymouth where he became a fur Trader in like 1613. so he had his own
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by you know the 1620s he has his own little village like he's not like in charge of but he lives there called
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Marymount and as fun there as it can be in this time to live
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if that makes sense so Dyer and grim and awful yes got it yes
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in 1625 he wrote a book called New English Canon that described his experiences in America and criticized
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the Puritans for like being intolerant because they are um they were there so the other person
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in the story William Bradford he's not fun he was a leader of the Plymouth Colony he was a governor of Plymouth for
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like 30 years which is like the famous one and he if you someone might say like oh that's
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the you know good American values but like no he was pretty awful
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and he's also this a very much a Slytherin like there's lots of capes and he's not any fun I mean you're kind of describing a
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pretty cool guy though I mean he's not fun though I know I would I would like to wear a
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cape and I 100 support keeps you can definitely do that so he so just some
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facts some numbers about William Bradford he was born in 1590 in ulsterfield England he became part of
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the separatist movement which ties back to England being with the church of England I didn't want he thought that was corrupt which we know it is it was
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because it was made for King Henry VII to be able to divorce and kill his wives but Bradford this is cool so he he
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escaped to Holland to escape religious persecution so this is part of the American story that we hear we're like
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the Puritans are being persecuted in England and they they had to leave so they went via Holland and he ended up
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flying a flying failing to America on what's the most
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famous ship that sail to America the Mayflower of Santa Maria the Mayflower
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okay he floated again he sailed over on the main bar
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no you're thinking the Nina the penta and the Santa Maria those are Christopher Columbus's
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so ridiculous um far as you were you were born in England better
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so he came out of bfr which is cool he was the governor of Plymouth which is like
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the famous Colony he had a common core system so like there was like communal
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farming and property ownership which sounds a little socialist but he you know was um kind of like a Stern ruler of of
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Plymouth so he and William Bradford didn't get along from the start and in
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1627 he goes over and arrests more in and dismantles his trading posts because
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he didn't like what he was doing so they're just like they're like two like kind of rival towns like living next to each other so here's the year where the
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big fun versus not fun battle happens between these two so in 1628 there's a
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May Day celebration do you know what may day is that was a Canadian thing is that when
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when their prime minister is born I make that up do we not celebrate Justin Trudeau's
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birthday I mean you know we don't celebrate the
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current president's birthday maybe they have a prime minister today I have no idea Canadians let us know so may day is
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now a holiday for workers rights but it's in pre-christian Europe so a long time ago it was the beginning of Summer
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and fertility a time for feasting and dancing winter sucks and I feel this like you just want to be happy and have
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it be warm finally so you know have you ever seen a maypole it's like a tall wooden pole and you do like a dance around it like did you ever see um where
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would I see this like in what situation would I be exposed you see did you see mid-summer yeah so like they do it in
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there I think so it's like a big pole and you have like ribbons and then you like do a dance around it and as you do
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the dance the ribbons tie on the pole it's very pretty okay so it's like it's like a Spring Festival
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and then of course the Christians were like making about Jesus so it became about like devotion and prayer there's
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the May Queen which is like what Florence Florence few was in mid-summer and so
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um I don't know what I was very late last night but I wrote have you read any books or seen Midsummer to anyone so
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just like that's what we're looking at hey do you think that maybe it's a good idea
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if you put that jug of milk behind you in the fridge instead of letting it sit outside by the window it's not it's the
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milk could you imagine it's what it's first of all it says distilled water it's a Mom's ironing water I see okay
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just checking why would I just have a gallon of milk in here some of you forgot and you can't see it but I can so
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oh my God what if I was just like drinking a glass of milk it's almost as gross as rabbit's blood it can imagine
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okay so 16 28 it's May you can assume the Winter's been awful more in the fun guy and his followers celebrate Mayday
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with like a huge party there's drinking dancing merry making this is a quote
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that was on Wikipedia that says they set up a maypole drinking and dancing about it many days together inviting the
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Indian women for their consorts right dancing and frisking together like so many fairies or Furies rather and worst
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practices as if they had a new revived and celebrated the feasts of you Roman Gladys Flora or ye beastly practices of
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ye mad oh my God I can't even present Bacchus like the God you know anyway it
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was rowdy foreign
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drinking a lot of just like sex and not Puritan things so it sounds super fun
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and I there's always like something in history that would be fun to like go back to this feels something that's like
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not known as well as like you know going to like a big battle or something but I think it'd be super fun to go back to and be like this party is super fun it's
51:35
like you know yeah I like Coachella when we're in Palm Springs it'll be just daddy like that so imagine that with a
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Puritan stereotype which is exactly what's happening in America right now so yes and I also like love well I was thinking
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about like what if I was there like what would it be like and also wanted to if I haven't told you before when we did one
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Christmas in Colonial Williamsburg and it was awesome and like I love like doing immersive history there were a lot of capes
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and they have like all these activities and like went to like a ball and wanted this like dance it's like line dance or whatever and I was dancing with someone
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like some like actor you know and he was like did you hear that Washington is going to speak later today in the town square and I was like it's [ __ ] so
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fun that is so fun I you know one thing we've never talked about is when I was a kid I used to love going to Civil War
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reenactments those are my favorite thing because they would go so in detail like they would have like the little shitty
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tents and there'd be like a pot of stew over a fire and it was just so much yeah it was really good that's so fun I
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remember um in Brooklyn they do like a reenactment of like a revolutionary war fight and um
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I met someone that was dressed like by German Franklin that's my picture in our slack is me in the bedroom of Franklin because I was so excited I was like this
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is awesome it's just like weird old man but I was like this is so fun oh my God that is Benjamin Franklin yeah
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um yeah it was very very fun so so they're so mad about this over in in
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Plymouth that they go over and they arrest arrest Morton for having this big party and they give them a trial and
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they're gonna send him back to England but instead of like giving him a ticket back to England they just maroon him on
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an island and wait for someone to pick him up which is might be fun if you have an ax with you and like you know some
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survival tools and water would be cool yes but he did get picked up and he went back to England and then the colony the community of
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Marymount lasted about a year without Morton but then it collapsed without him as a kind of their leader so the
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Puritans kind of took over and like they took for the rest of the land so I'll tell you a little bit more about
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what happened to them later but really what this is is like this is a story of
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we've barely England English people have barely even been here for like a couple
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years and they're already this huge clash between like the old world and the new world so there's like a new world
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where we're maybe gonna be more free and and be more more creative and like more you know not so strict and religious and
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then there's this old world that the that the Puritans are trying to replicate in in the new world but the
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whole thing is like the old world never existed like there is no like perfect Puritan world and so they're trying to
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do that and like nothing nostalgic is true so it's like kind of a whatever
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they're trying to do something that was almost impossible which is why there's like so much conflict so there's like this is like a story of the conflict
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between individuality and made more diverse and more tolerant and then not
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being like really religious well that's our I think that's like our interpretation of it so what was the
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actual what did they think they were fighting about they were fighting about this big party and being like not being
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as religious as them that's it yeah they were offended by the party
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ungodly okay that's kind of yeah that's like you're seeing you invited that's
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the problem you're probably getting invited it's a good point also everything I just my shoes just squeaked
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on the mat underneath my feet that was not a fart just so but he's clear if that did pick up in the mic which I
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don't know if it did I'm just gonna provide that somebody knows that's so funny
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yeah so you can just like use this story as like a manifestation of that old versus new super religious versus a
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little more lacks like still religious but like not as like strict and Puritan which is like a word we use as
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you know a an adjective so you know Morton was the new world individualism
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tolerance Freedom Bradford was overall religion social hierarchy Conformity so
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in 1628 Morton does go back to England the returns a year later and they arrest him again because they're like who told
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you to leave I like found him somehow because 1629 like go anywhere else but
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they they catch him out of Massachusetts so we could never go back to Massachusetts again and then he ends up going back to
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England and coming back and trying to make a colony in Maine so Morton goes back and forth a few more times a couple
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of fields Ventures he either died I got two conflicting stories one said he died in England at 64. another said he died
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in Maine in when he was 71 so either way he you know never went back to Massachusetts and didn't put in contact
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with the Puritans again and Bradford died in 1644 which is about 40 years before the Salem witch trials in
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Plymouth at the age of 67 so he just continued to like be the leader of Plymouth and continue to have it be
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really strict which as we saw let's see with Salem continued to be kind of the way that people acted and lived in in
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that part of the of the colonies for a long time after what's the stereotype I
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think it's a stereotype of like a not fun really strict religious that like I
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am really like offended by you know and then I think maybe the other way they could see a stereotype of like someone
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who is how having being like a little bit more fun being like ungodly and
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maybe like of the devil which is like where we get you kind of like later with with witches and stuff like if you're
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not doing exactly what I tell you to do and conforming then like you must be in League with the devil interesting yeah I
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um I don't know if it's like an awesome thing necessarily I don't think I was really exposed to much in La so it's
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been most mostly here where the whole like witchy vibe that some
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women have here it's like awesome like I love that whole it's so fun it's so fun
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oh my God I love it I mean I told you all those crystals and all the stuff that I keep buying those are all these
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witches markets like they call them witch's markets and you go there and it's just yeah it's a bunch of groovy people just living their life and like
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it's it's I think that some of them do like believe the stuff that they say but in large part it's like it's like having
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a ren Fair it's like they just want to have a good time and pretending they're an old-timey you know moments and this
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stage is gonna ward off evil and it's like I love it see that's like with like that has what
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like whatever yeah if you want to like burn sage in your house or if you want to pray to make things better I don't
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give a [ __ ] my problem is when you ruin other people's lives because of your beliefs you know like and I think
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witches like you're awesome witchy lady is like they're not ruining anybody's life
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they're just burning some herbs and yeah like I had a you know like everyone I
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had 45 mental breakdowns during 2020 and I did buy some spell books you know and
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I was like I'm gonna start bearing stuff in the backyard and like protecting my house and like doing these things and
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like that seems fun you know like why not I'm gonna I'm gonna well I'm gonna look this up real quick because I can't
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remember it off top of my head I did get a book that was absolutely disgusting
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that you should look at because it was free um books and reading this is the least
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used part of my Amazon account okay so damn where's the the silent part
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of the episode if there's any any Puritan names that you wish you'd name your children please give us an email at
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jimdafilpad gmail.com I've already called cotton an increase but there's got to be more goodie do you wanna put
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the word goodie in for your daughter's name have you thought about that send me an email I thought about it we should
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talk about it more try me no that's why I can't find this there's a book that I got it was um it
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was Aleister Crowley's son who became like a super lame version of
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Alistair probably himself under all these books of spells that you could do
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and they were like disgusting it was let's just say there
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was a lot of like leaving bodily fluids out in the open I
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so much or was that it was just like this guy like it like male bodily fluids yeah we can say that or
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oh yeah it was if I wasn't positive that he
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believed in the things that he was saying it sounded like recipe books for Pazuzu alcarad like it was exactly it
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was really really bad so funny um yeah I think our stories are super similar because I think we're in like
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creepy like East Coast woods and people are just like whether or not like zuzu's
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schizophrenia had something to do with it which I assumed that it did like it's that idea of being like when will
1:00:28
something happen you know like when will something happen to me and then like I was terrible childhood like I want
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something to happen let me be provocative with this and then like in in colonial America some people are like
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maybe we finally have the chance to make something happen to like do something different and to like have some free
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thought and the Puritans are like no it's not over here and then I just think it's so it's a more I think about it the
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more like of a big deal it is of a larger problem thinking that like when I was younger I definitely was told like
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we're here because people wanted to do practice whatever religion they wanted and we wanted to be you could be
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whatever you wanted in America and that's not true you know and like that's not that was never true but like I don't know why I thought about that for a
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while come here my daughter just came in look what she has flow I flow which is that
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to try to make it is that a lion what is that how do you make it oh they're having a there's like a perfect sign mom's house and there was a clown I
1:01:25
guess and so Lauren's got a well who made that then a balloon person
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rather that than a clown there's a lot of finger pointing happening off screen very cool cool balloon animal break very
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cool yeah but you know what I mean I feel like you can cup it out but you know but you know what I mean I think it's like it's and now we're in at this
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time in America today where there's this like Christian Right Movement that's
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like trying to destroy public schools and Destroy publicly funded things so
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that everybody has to pay to go to a Christian School so they can pick up what books people read and like just why
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I'm so glad I don't have to pay attention to any of this stuff I just live in my little bubble you can't you cannot live in your bubble you live in
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America you're gonna find something that's gonna happen to you if you're paying attention to everybody else
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just tumblers about for it I don't like you tell me I don't I don't want to pay attention to politics anymore I don't
1:02:20
want to pay attention to what's going on in the world just you tell me what to do perfect okay yeah someone tells me to
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get kicked out of Texas but as my first thought was you move out of Texas but okay we'll talk about later
1:02:32
I was even convinced player I I am gonna I mean I'm gonna wait where sorry I'm
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gonna wait until you're past having an infant but we should talk about raising a daughter in
1:02:43
Texas I'm sure you've thought about it Blair's very smart she can she knows try to do the math
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um cool well we'll go ahead and pause the recording thank you everyone for listening and yeah thank you for the
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suggestion Lindsay for this and thanks everyone who's sent us things super cool absolutely I know subscribe all the
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