Doomed to Fail

Ep 155: Don't go chasing waterfalls in Honduras - Lisa Left Eye Lopes

Episode Summary

In this episode, we’re spotlighting Lisa “Left Eye” Lopes and her pivotal role in the creation of TLC. From her bold audition that caught the attention of Perri “Pebbles” Reid to her dynamic partnership with T-Boz and Chilli, Left Eye’s energy, creativity, and vision helped shape TLC’s iconic sound and image. Of course, it wasn't all fun and games - we'll talk about Left Eye's issues with addiction, abuse, and her creative frustration with TLC. A bright light put out too soon. TW // Domestic Abuse 💫 #LeftEye #TLC #90sMusic #GirlGroupLegends #LeftEyeLegacy

Episode Notes

In this episode, we’re spotlighting Lisa “Left Eye” Lopes and her pivotal role in the creation of TLC. From her bold audition that caught the attention of Perri “Pebbles” Reid to her dynamic partnership with T-Boz and Chilli, Left Eye’s energy, creativity, and vision helped shape TLC’s iconic sound and image.

Of course, it wasn't all fun and games - we'll talk about Left Eye's issues with addiction, abuse, and her creative frustration with TLC. A bright light put out too soon.

TW // Domestic Abuse

💫 #LeftEye #TLC #90sMusic #GirlGroupLegends #LeftEyeLegacy

Sources

Crystal Jones: 5 Things To Know About Original TLC Member Replaced By Chilli - https://hollywoodlife.com/feature/who-is-crystal-jones-tlc-5109865/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/916726.stm

Episode Transcription

Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor

We pause to drink water because yesterday I drank zero water and only wine

 

>> Taylor: In the matter of the people of the State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA09.

 

>> Farz: And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you.

 

>> Taylor: Ask what you can do for your country.

 

>> Farz: And we're back.

 

>> Taylor: Back. Yeah, I had to pause to drink water because yesterday I drank zero water and only drank wine. And I'm like, I should drink water. I should remember that. I should take care of myself.

 

>> Farz: You know, I had a good amount of wine yesterday, too. And I went to, work out this morning. Was like, I needed not. I, I, I'm too old to, like, enjoy wine that much.

 

>> Taylor: Do both. Yeah, that's fair. Here we are.

 

>> Farz: but in theory, people are gearing up for Thanksgiving. They're probably listening to this the day, maybe the day before Thanksgiving. if so, hopefully everybody has some fun times.

 

>> Taylor: Yeah. Yeah.

 

 

Doomed to Fail brings you history's most notorious disasters and epic failures

 

Welcome to Doomed to Fail, everyone. On this Thanksgiving week, we are the podcast that brings you history's most notorious disasters and epic failures. And I'm Taylor, joined by fars.

 

>> Farz: Yep, we are here. We covered my topic earlier today, and now we have Taylor's topic, which I am dying to learn more about.

 

>> Taylor: I was this going to. I was also, I feel like someday we should talk about just like Thanksgiving itself and how, the reason that the Puritans came to America is because they sucked. No one wanted hang out with them.

 

>> Farz: I mean, again, I am thankful that I'm here now in light of everything for real.

 

>> Taylor: as long as we can be. so I'm in. Like I told you last time, I am in Spokane, even though also spelled Spokane, but Spokane, Washington. and with my family, and we just, like, all we do is lay around and do nothing. Like, I haven't left the house in several days. We just lay around and we're watching music videos on, like the TV or whatever. And a video came up, and for the video Creep by tlc. Do you remember that one? They're wearing, like, big pjs. I don't picture it. So they're wearing these, like, amazing, amazing gigantic silk pajamas. And it's all this wind. And I noticed that, like, there isn't a wrap in the video. So Left Eye, like, kind of does nothing the whole time. So that was really weird. Like, she, like, didn't. They didn't have the wrap in there. So she just kind of dances around, doesn't do anything. And I'm like, that's really weird. what's the deal with that?

 

 

Lisa Nicole Lopez was born Lisa Nicole Lopez on May 27, 1971

 

So I'm going to talk about the life and death of Lisa Left Eye Lopez.

 

>> Farz: Ooh. M. Okay.

 

>> Taylor: So she was. She was born Lisa Nicole Lopez with an S Lopez L, O, P, e, s on May 27, 1971, in Philadelphia. She, grew up in, like, a really strict military, household. Her dad was in the military and he was probably abusive. Like, he was, kind of mean and probably an alcoholic as well. So her parents got divorced when she was young and she, like, spent a lot of her time, like in her, her high school and kid years living with her grandma. So a little bit of a tumultuous, like, grow, growing up life. But then she ended up, you know, staying in touch with her siblings and. And all of that. She, liked music from. Right, from. Right away. She played a bunch of instruments. Her dad actually taught her how to do that. And she started a little gospel group with her siblings, and they would sing at like, churches and things like that, and they would, like, write their own music. And, at some point someone tells her that her left eye is very pretty, which is odd.

 

>> Farz: That's how she got the name, right?

 

>> Taylor: Yeah. So someone says, like, you're really pretty, especially your left eye.

 

>> Farz: That is very strange. I never.

 

>> Taylor: Very specific.

 

>> Farz: I never noticed anything about her left eye specifically.

 

>> Taylor: Yeah, I mean, she's very pretty, but like, they, you know, they said that to her. So that's why she. That's why she has the nickname Left Eye. And that happened like in the 90s. And in the late 1990s she moved to Atlanta. So Atlanta was where there was like, a lot of, like, hip hop, R and B music being made. And she identical.

 

>> Farz: She's totally symmetrical. They call her Eyes Lopez. Weird.

 

>> Taylor: It doesn't have the same ring. Yeah. Eyes Lopez. so she moved to Atlanta. She had a keyboard and like $1,000 and was going to be a dancer and just wanted to, you start. Start making music. There's a record producer. There's a lot of record producers in here. In the story, one named, specifically named Ian Burke, and he was working with a young woman named Crystal Jones on a new group. So they wanted to do like, like a Belle of Devoe kind of group for all. All girls and do like, a combination of, like, different styles in the group. so it was like Crystal's idea. And she ended up, finding Lisa and finding tea bars. So the other, the other one, that tea is just like Tea T. And then Boss is like boss. That's what that nickname is. So it was T. Boz, Left Eye and Crystal and, they had an audition with the producer, Pebbles Reed, and Pebbles said to kick Crystal out. He didn't let. She didn't let. Crystal's vibe wanted her out, so they kicked Crystal out. An article I read that Crystal wrote later, interview with her later, she said that there was a contract that they asked them to sign. And T. Boz and Left Eye signed her right away. But Crystal wanted to read it, and she didn't want to, like, just sign a contract to give her life away. And, they were like, nope, forget it, and kicked her out.

 

>> Farz: Yeah, that's how they do all. It's so crooked, the whole. It's like those temptation deals where you, like, basically, like, a slave to the label forever.

 

>> Taylor: It's exactly that. That's exactly what they signed to. but Crystal left and they found a woman, a young woman named Rosanda Thomas. And they already had, like, the marketing and, like, they were already going to be tlc, so they didn't know what to do. So left. I gave her the nickname Chili. And that's how she became Chilly. She just, like, brought that, made that up. she had been a backup dancer, so that's why. That's how she got Chili's. Now they can be tlc. Lisa wrote a lot of their songs. She wrote her own raps. She picked out their matching outfits. She was, like, really, like, involved in their style. she also would wear. Remember, she would wear a condom over her right eye. Not her left eye. That's her right eye. Or her right eye in her glasses. Just to, like, promote safe sex and, like, talk about it. She also sometimes do, like, the black bar under her eye. Like a football player. And she had, like, left eyebrow pierced. Like, make that left eye stand out more.

 

>> Farz: You got to know, you know, you gotta flex that left eye.

 

>> Taylor: Yeah. So she, signed the deal with LaFace Records, which was, owned by Pebbles Reed and Baby Face. And, other producers, like Jermaine Dupree was in there. Dallas Austin was, a person who, like, worked on Creep, which is, like, one of the big famous ones too.

 

 

TLC's first album came out in 1992. Pretty popular

 

So they had a bunch of. A bunch of, A bunch of, like, really great producers working for them and making and making songs for them. In 1992, their first album came out. It has a terrible name. It's called. Ooh, on, the TLC Tip. That's the name of the album. Like, I don't even know how to say it. Doesn't make any sense to me.

 

>> Farz: Maybe back then it was a Good name.

 

>> Taylor: but, it was great. And it had a bunch of songs, and they got pretty. Pretty popular. And so it's 1992, and they're living in Atlanta. The first album's album is out. They have some hit singles. ain't Too Proud To Beg is like, the main hit single from that album. And Lisa starts dating a football player for the Atlanta Falcons.

 

>> Farz: This is a story. This is the story I'm most familiar with.

 

>> Taylor: Yes. So his name is Andrew, Andre Rison. And it's not great from the start. He's not great. He definitely. There's definitely abuse involved. and she has alcohol issues. So they're both, like, very, It's like a very hostile relationship. on September 2, 1993, she filed an assault charge against him. But they're still going to get back together, and they're going to get back together and on and off for, like, a really long time. but sometime in 1993, she found him in bed with another woman. So she threw a bunch of teddy bears that they had. They, had given her into the tub and set them on fire. So in that case, the tub was like a big marble bathtub. They had, like, a big mansion that they lived in. And the marble didn't burn, but it was ruined. So Andre had to get a new bathtub. So he replaced the bathtub that she set on fire with a fiberglass bathtub. He didn't, like, get a marble one again. And then on June 9, 1994, she. She alleges that he. He was beating her, and they were in this big physical fight, and she threw some new shoes of his into the new tub that was fiberglass and set those on fire. But fiberglass isn't like marble, and it burns. And that's what burned their entire house down. It was the second time she.

 

>> Farz: First story. I thought.

 

>> Taylor: I didn't.

 

>> Farz: I only heard about the shoes.

 

>> Taylor: Yeah. Yeah. So she had done it before. And the first time, I guess you can do it if you, like, you know, if you're gonna send me on fire dramatically, do it in a rubble tub. If you want to burn on your house, do it in a fiberglass tub.

 

>> Farz: Just break up. For the love of God, just break, dude. Like, she. If she burnt your tub once, that should be enough. Just break up.

 

>> Taylor: Yeah. And don't, like, don't. Don't stay with someone who hurts you. Just break up. I know it's super awful to say. That's really hard to say, but, like, they should have broken Up.

 

>> Farz: Well, yeah, I read. So I. I don't totally subscribe to the. Well, okay, first off, he's an NFL player, so he probably was being the shot of her, but she also sounds like a nightmare. Like, like, I'm just saying, she sounds like an absolute. Like, they both should have called it quits.

 

>> Taylor: They both should have called the quits. Yes. After I said that, I was like, wait, I don't mean that it's easy to get out of an abusive relationship, because I know that it's hard to get out of an abusive relationship, but also, like, no, this isn't like, a.

 

>> Farz: Woman who's, like, you know, dependent on Andre Risen to pay her no housing. She's a fucking millionaire herself. Like, they're both incredibly successful people.

 

>> Taylor: Not a millionaire. So let me tell you. let me tell you.

 

>> Farz: Okay, well, I backtrack everything I just said.

 

>> Taylor: Yeah. So I don't know where we're going with that, but. Yes.

 

>> Farz: No, my only point was like, yeah, Ah, it's. It's less hard to get out of a situation like this when you have infinite resources. Like, if Jay Z was beating Beyonce, like, Beyonce could buy the state they live in and, like.

 

>> Taylor: Yes.

 

>> Farz: House herself.

 

>> Taylor: Yes. Yes. Yeah.

 

>> Farz: Are we arguing or something?

 

 

In 1995, the members of TLC filed for bankruptcy

 

I don't mean it.

 

>> Taylor: I don't know. I don't think so. I just. I don't want anyone to feel like I think it's easy to leave a relationship, because I know it's hard.

 

>> Farz: Do you feel guilty anyway?

 

>> Taylor: I do, but then I'm like, well, like you were saying, just break up. And I feel like that's similar to, like, people who murder their spouses. You're like, oh, my God, I get a divorce. You know?

 

>> Farz: I mean. Yeah. Yeah, I think. I mean, there's also, like, a ton of factors that go into stuff like that. Again, when you look at, like, two people like this, like, who are very, very young and. Or, I mean, I guess I assume they were really, really successful, at least. Andre Risen. Super successful. Or, like, financially successful. And, like, you would assume they're surrounded by people that also. You're not tied to that person. You're fucking touring. You're either on the. You're. You know what I mean? Like, it's.

 

>> Taylor: Yeah.

 

>> Farz: Again, like, you keep. I feel like you're picturing, like, someone married to someone who makes, like, $50,000 a year and is like.

 

>> Taylor: Right. I wasn't. And I was. And like, yeah, totally. No, I mean, it was not good. It was bad. It was bad. But they are going to continue to kind of date on and off until her death, pretty much, which is great. so she got five years of probation and a $10,000 fine. And then she goes to rehab. So she goes to, like a halfway home to, for her alcohol addiction. And while she was there, she didn't get to write for Crazy Sexy Cool, which is like their big album that everybody knows. and so she felt like she was kind of left out on it. Like she had some like very tiny little raps in the songs. And then like she used to sing backup vocals, but they had a studio person do it instead of her anyway, so she kind of like felt like she was getting pushed out. Crazy Sexy Cool does give them, all a bunch of awards. They got MTV Video Music Award for video of the year year. they got best R and B album of the Grammy and best R B performance Grammy, as well. in 1996 they were artist of the year at the Billboard Music Awards. So they were like, like you said, they looked very, very successful. But like we also said they signed a shitty ass deal. So in 1995, the members of TLC filed for bankruptcy. they received, I don't really know exactly how album cells work, but they received as a group, 56 cents per album sold. And they had to divide it themselves. They also had to pay their own expenses. So like, if you have a good record deal, like your expenses are covered. But they had to pay for their food, in their travel while they were touring. they also had to pay Lisa's legal fees from the arson. And T Boz has sickle cell anemia. She still, obviously still has it. And so she, they had to pay her medical bills too. So after all of the fees, all the medical bills, each of them made like 50k a year after everything.

 

>> Farz: A year.

 

>> Taylor: Mm.

 

>> Farz: Wow.

 

>> Taylor: So they were not millionaires, even though you would think that they would be. but they ended. They were able to renegotiate their contracts. They were able to trademark the name TLC because it was like their idea and, get some control over it, after that. So they're more in control of their music, but they're kind of falling apart as a group. so it's been a couple years and they have another album called Fan Mail. and then Lisa goes out on her own and like makes a couple. she's guest stars and a bunch of other artists work as well. and she's kind of trying to get out. So in May 1999, in Vibe magazine. She said, quote, I've graduated from this era. I cannot stand 100% behind TLC, in the music that is supposed to represent me. So she's just like, it's not. It's not for me anymore. And they're pissed. And then obviously, Chile and T? Boz were mad, and they said in another magazine, they said that Lisa doesn't respect the whole group and she's only conserved. They said, Left Eye is only concerned with Left Eye, so they're kind of, like, fighting back and forth in the media. so then she did a weird thing where she did, like, a press conference and called, And she suggested this thing called the Challenge. And she said, I challenged Tian Watkins, T? Boz, and Rosanda Thomas Chili to an album entitled the Challenge, a three CD set that contains three solo albums. Each album will be due to the record label by October 1, 2000. I also challenged Dallas the Manipulator Austin to produce all of the material and do it in a fraction of his normal rate. As I think about it, I'm sure LaFace would not mind throwing in a $1.5 million prize for the winner. So. Sounds like wild idea. And they were. The other girls were like, no. And they called her heartless, so they didn't talk to her for a while.

 

>> Farz: So they were broken up at this point, basically.

 

 

Lisa was reported missing in 2000; she later adopted two children

 

>> Taylor: Yeah. That would have been cool, though. A three CD set, all three single albums.

 

>> Farz: Yeah. But I mean, to me, just hearing what you say, it didn't sound like a friendly thing. No, it sounded antagonistic.

 

>> Taylor: Exactly. They said, no. They called her heartless. So they were like, we're not doing this with you. she was the only one ever actually out of the three to make a full solo album. There's been a couple singles. Her solo album was called Heartless, and then she was halfway done with another one. when she did die later, during the late 90s, she did a ton of, like, producing, joining other artists. She was in sync song, like, a bunch of other things. She also, during this time, adopted two children. I'm not super clear when or why, but one person was, a woman she met at, like, the halfway house that she was living in. She adopted that person's daughter and then another. Another child at some other point as well. And, she was on who Wants to Be a Millionaire, so, which was, like, for charity, because she was famous. And she ended up winning $32,000 for her. For a charity. And, she was in, like, some really early reality shows where she was like, finding musicians and like, finding bands. but she started to kind of get. Do a couple of things that were like, a little weird. Like, she was definitely like, pulling away from tlc. Like they were, they weren't officially broken up, but they were like, not talking to each other. And in 2000, she was reported missing. She didn't attend an event in Las Vegas. And then like a family thing, Atlanta. And the paper, the newspaper articles I read, they're like, she's missing. Her family's like, where are you? And then she said that she just like went on a road trip. She just drove down through Central America. And she was like, I just need a break and everybody leave me alone. So sounds like her mental state was like, not very good during that time. She was just like, trying to escape. I actually watched. There's a documentary, called the Last Days of Lisa.

 

>> Farz: Yeah, I saw that too.

 

>> Taylor: Yeah, so I was watching a little bit of that. She's just like, I'm exhausted, I need a break, you know. So she found that she loved the country of Honduras and she wanted to go down there and bring a lot of her family and friends. So she brought like a group of people, they were going to do like a 30 day retreat to do like yoga and numerology and like all these things. And she also had bought 80 acres of land to make into like a school and art center for children of Honduras. So she was like trying to do good things down there. she. So she had like her group of people there and was about to start this like 30 day retreat when, in 2002, she was in a van driven by her, assistant Stephanie. And they hit a young boy named Byron is able Fuentes Lopez. So a little boy who was like running through the street. They took his, they picked him up, Lisa held him, his like, bloody body in the back of the van while someone else gave the kids cpr. And they brought him to the hospital, but he was, he was brain dead by the time they brought him there and he died. And she felt like there was this like, weird shadow following her around Honduras and that, ah, it was trying to kill her, but it killed the boy instead because the boy ran in front. So she was like, she. No one got like, charged for it, but she was like very, very, she felt very, very guilty. She paid for all the funeral arrangements, she gave the family some money. Like all these things that she just felt like, like it was happening to her, you know?

 

>> Farz: Yeah, yeah, that would give me pause too.

 

>> Taylor: So two weeks later, on April 25, 2002, she was driving, M. Mitsubishi Montero SUV in La Ciba, Honduras. And she was driving. And this is in the documentary, because they were filming it, like, obviously it wasn't going to be called the Last Days of Lisa Lopez. It was called something else, you know, but they were like, filming their adventures and going. Being down there. So in this big passenger van, and she's driving. She's not wearing her seatbelt. The person is like, in this front seat with her, and they're videotaping her. There's some girls in the back playing, like, people in the van and she. There's a truck. They're on, like, a pretty windy, like, mountainous road. It's like, very green. And they. All of a sudden someone goes like. Like, look out. And you hear, oh, no. And then you hear the screech. And then the. The, The thing goes, like, to static. But she was driving. she made, like, a sharp left to avoid the car. And then her vehicle rolled over several times, hit some trees. she got thrown out of the car and she died instantly of a fracture to the base of the cranium. So, no one else died. She was the only one. and she was only 30 when she died. her. She was buried in Georgia on May 2, 2002. On her casket they engraved. Dreams are hopeless aspirations and hopes of coming true Believing yourself, the rest is up to me and you which is obviously from waterfalls. And, Her family runs and still runs a foundation to help kids. I think. What is it? What do they do? What does her foundation do?

 

 

She has a foundation to help neglected and abandoned youth

 

She has a foundation. I, know it's to help children. Her parents. Her family still, like, runs it. they have a. It's for. For neglected and abandoned youth to enjoy their. To help them increase their quality of life, essentially.

 

>> Farz: It's nice.

 

>> Taylor: So that's nice. And they have that. And then, I think. Remember, I think Teals T. Boz and Chili had like. At one point they had like, a rally show that was like, are you the girl to get a new member? But I don't think they ever got a new member. I think they just like the two of them still kind of tour sometimes.

 

>> Farz: Was she gonna go back to music? Was that the.

 

>> Taylor: I think so. It sounds like she was, like, doing her own stuff. because she was halfway through her, second solo album when she died. So I think she was probably, going to. But she also just like, I need a break so bad, you know, like, for the past, like, 10 years of her life had been, like, insane, you.

 

>> Farz: Know, I can only imagine. the Daily. Did you listen to the Daily this weekend?

 

>> Taylor: No.

 

>> Farz: So they cup. You would. You would know this better than I would. So they covered this K Pop, star who's the first Korean woman to have, like, a solo Billboard top 10 or something. Like, I don't. I don't know music that well, but whatever. She accomplished something kind of big. Her name's Rosie or Rose. Do you know her? I don't know how any of this stuff works, but apparently she was talking. She was talking to the Daily and, being interviewed, and apparently what they do with K Pop these days is they have these, like. It's kind of like the Perlman situation, where they're just, like, built to be, like, famous, you know?

 

>> Taylor: Yeah, they, like, make them in a factory.

 

>> Farz: They make them in a factory. And so that's what happened where some major company that does this, was saying they're going to go to Australia. She's from New Zealand, and they were going to go to Australia, and she flew to Australia, she auditioned, and then they, like, shipped her to South Korea and then kept her there, like, basically, like, just like all you do is, like, learn music and learn media training, all this stuff for, like, years, and then you're off and trying to do your own thing. It just sounds like a very, I guess you're living your dreams, so it's not bad. But it also doesn't sound fun.

 

>> Taylor: No, it doesn't sound fun. And there's, you know, there's plenty of stories of, like, you know, famous people struggling with, like, addiction and doing, like, all kinds of stuff, you know. So it sounds weird, like, Liam Payne, the One Direction guy who just died, like, he. He went to rehab, but he was. But he had, like, a thing. He was like. They would. They would do this, like, big show because they were, like, teenagers, and then the manager would just, like, lock them in their hotel rooms by themselves, you know, and just be like, good night. And then he would just, like, drink the minibar because he's like, what am I supposed to do? Like, have all this energy. Like, it's just like they. Yeah, you're kind of treated like. Just like a show person, you know, young commodity.

 

>> Farz: You're treated like a commodity. Yeah. The way to do it is a solo way. Like the Post Malone, Taylor. Swell. I guess Taylor Swift got screwed over by that one guy. Yeah.

 

>> Taylor: But she figured.

 

>> Farz: She what?

 

>> Taylor: She figured it out.

 

>> Farz: She did. But, like, I think, like, that's the way to do it is like you just kind of get big enough to where you overpower, like the industry.

 

>> Taylor: But yeah.

 

>> Farz: Fun. Yeah. That Andre Rison story is the thing that I remember the most. Besides.

 

>> Taylor: Totally.

 

>> Farz: Besides waterfalls, obviously. Crazy story.

 

>> Taylor: I know. I also hadn't realized that she'd already done one of the bath. Like already lit a bathtub on fire.

 

>> Farz: I did not know that. I did not know that. Ah. But I like his thinking. He was like, if it's going to keep happening, am m I going to shell out for marble tub?

 

>> Taylor: Totally. But someone should have told him that if I broke Happening.

 

>> Farz: You should break up.

 

>> Taylor: Like, you should break up. Oh my God. Totally.

 

 

Taylor: Aaliyah was only 22 when she died

 

>> Farz: Your, your ex is allowed to set your. Your partner's. Let us set fire to your house one time. One time.

 

>> Taylor: That's fair. One time.

 

>> Farz: The second time you gotta cut it.

 

>> Taylor: Yeah. Especially if you're like, cheating on her and being.

 

>> Farz: Yeah.

 

>> Taylor: She's not for you.

 

>> Farz: All the other factors involved. The cumulative picture is not one of a healthy relationship being painted.

 

>> Taylor: It's not great. No, no.

 

>> Taylor: No. But it's sad. She's sad. For her. It's a short, short life.

 

>> Farz: Hey, she still beat the 2027 club?

 

>> Taylor: She did. She did.

 

>> Farz: Was Aaliyah 27?

 

>> Taylor: I feel like she was younger.

 

>> Farz: Was she really younger than 27? Who's in the 27 club?

 

>> Taylor: Let's see. No, she was. Oh, my gosh. She was only 22 when she died.

 

>> Farz: That's crazy.

 

>> Taylor: Poor thing. That's terrible.

 

>> Farz: Wow. The. I don't recognize a huge chunk of the names listed on wikipedia for the 27 Club. like, who's Barry Brown?

 

>> Taylor: I'm gonna look.

 

>> Farz: Chris Austin. I don't know who that is. Mia Zapata.

 

>> Taylor: Yes.

 

>> Farz: Lead singer of the Kids. I don't know who that is. All right, Kurt Cobain. Now we're getting into something here.

 

>> Taylor: W. A Rolling Stones founder guitarist named Brian Jones drowned when he was 27.

 

>> Farz: This list is like, come on. Like, you got Hendrix, you got Cobain. Like, you got Amy Winehouse. We don't need to like, add Jesse Belvin.

 

>> Taylor: I'm just reading through this. I mean, there's a lot of people on this list.

 

>> Farz: It's a huge list. Wait, why is it Amy is Amy Winehouse. I'm on here. She has to be on here. Yeah, she's on there. Okay.

 

>> Taylor: It's another sad one.

 

>> Farz: Yeah.

 

>> Taylor: Anyway, now we're just reading to ourselves. This is a silent reading portion.

 

>> Farz: This is a silent reading portion of the podcast. I hope you enjoy it. Join us. We're gonna. We're gonna. You can just do this on your own. Actually, you don't even have to be listening to us. Just turn off the radio.

 

>> Taylor: Just keep the sun.

 

>> Farz: Yeah, keep the sun. And silent. sweet. Well, thanks for sharing, Taylor. I love learning about things that were relevant to my childhood, but I never understood because I was too young to understand them when they happened.

 

>> Taylor: That's true. That's true. Yeah. Cool. Well, thank you. That's all I have. Thanks everyone, for listening. Please find us at, doom to fell pod on all social medias or send us an email doomtofellpod at gmail.

 

>> Farz: Com and have a great Thanksgiving.

 

>> Taylor: Woohoo.

 

>> Farz: Sweet. We're going to come.