What do you do if you are in the coldest, most remote place on earth and you need to have surgery? You probably hope to hell that you brought a doctor along with you... but what if you ARE the doctor who was brought along? Today Farz tells us about Leonid Rogozov, who took out his own appendix! And Jerri Lin Nielsen, who diagnosed and treated her own breast cancer deep in the Antarctic freeze! Very important homework assignment to watch X-Files S1 E8 - "Ice" literally as soon as you can.
What do you do if you are in the coldest, most remote place on earth and you need to have surgery? You probably hope to hell that you brought a doctor along with you... but what if you ARE the doctor who was brought along? Today Farz tells us about Leonid Rogozov, who took out his own appendix! And Jerri Lin Nielsen, who diagnosed and treated her own breast cancer deep in the Antarctic freeze!
Very important homework assignment to watch X-Files S1 E8 - "Ice" literally as soon as you can.
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Taylor: Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do
>> Taylor: In the matter of the people of the State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA097.
>> Farz: And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you.
>> Taylor: Ask what you can do for your country.
>> Farz: Boom. Taylor, we are here live on the radio.
>> Taylor: Neither of those things are true.
>> Farz: I mean, we're alive. That part is kind of true.
>> Taylor: Sure, sure. And I guess technically if you listen to this like it's like a radio.
>> Farz: So fine, yeah, yeah, it's totally, totally a radio. how have you been? Let's, let's whip up the banter.
>> Taylor: Let's do it.
Taylor: To Dooms to Fail podcast is hosted by Fars Taylor
Well, first off, welcome.
>> Farz: Oh right.
>> Taylor: To Dooms to Fail. We are the podcast that brings you history's most notorious disasters and epic failures. And I'm Taylor joined by Fars Taylor.
>> Farz: Should I just record a proper intro from you that I then splice in at the very beginning so that.
>> Taylor: No. Cause I think my infection is different every time. Just kidding, who cares? Sure.
>> Farz: Maybe the only way to streamline me forgetting things like the intro. But anyways, how have you been?
>> Taylor: I have been well, lots of Christmassy stuff happening. Florence played the violin at the town Christmas tree lighting. And there was snow in town the other day. They like brought in boxes, ice, and then like wood chipped them and made them into snow. And then they were able, the kids were able to have snowball fights and do a little bit of like fake sledding and it was very cute.
>> Farz: I think your kids are having one of the most idyllic experiences of a child because like I can't imagine that if you're a kid growing up in like la, that's your lived experiences. Like, like I think you're just like in your cell phone and like doing.
>> Taylor: I mean they watch plenty of tv, but there is something about a small town that is cool for raising children.
>> Farz: Well, TV's not like. Okay, so unpopular opinion probably. That's not a bad thing actually.
>> Taylor: Like I don't think so either actually.
>> Farz: Now, now people's attention span is like 7 second TikTok clips. Like it's played good that your kids can focus on a 30 minute show or two hour movie. You know what I mean?
>> Taylor: I mean they know a ton about.
>> Farz: Dinosaurs, so I'm also a huge dinosaur fan. Are they really big into dinosaurs? Like both of them?
>> Taylor: Yeah, for sure. Like they know a lot of stuff, but they've been. There's so many shows they like learn so much that it's like for real. They learn ton about animals, talk about dinosaurs a ton about stuff just from certain cartoons that they like. So it's good.
>> Farz: I. I got into, the, Jurassic park animated series on Netflix.
>> Taylor: Oh, gosh. Camp Cretaceous.
>> Farz: Yes.
>> Taylor: I love it. How far are you?
>> Farz: So I've only watched play three episodes of it, but it's pretty good. Like, I know I'm not supposed to like it as an adult, but you are.
>> Taylor: It's great. There are many seasons, and even the most recent season was great. There's even a season in the middle where it's one of those, like, you get to choose what to do Netflix shows.
>> Farz: Oh, no way.
>> Taylor: And every once in a while you get, like, eaten by a dinosaur and you're like, damn it. And you have to, like, go back and make different decisions. But it's great. No confrontations is so good. Like, legit good.
>> Farz: Do you remember when we were kids in those books? Like, choose your own adventures.
>> Taylor: Mm,
>> Farz: Did you. Were you like me? I would. I would choose my original adventure, then I would go back and try the different versions of it.
>> Taylor: That's what you're supposed to do.
>> Farz: Okay. All right. So what, he did that. Okay.
>> Taylor: Because you can't just, like, read it once. It's not the way it works. But I really, like. I wouldn't go back to the beginning. I'll go back to, like, one.
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah, you go back to some inflection point. sweet.
Rachel: I believe I'm going first today. So are you ready to be kicked off
Well, yeah, I can go ahead and kick us off. I believe I'm going first today. So are you ready to be kicked off?
>> Taylor: I'm ready. I can't wait. Okay.
>> Farz: So today. Okay, so I'm gonna give a shout out. So Rachel was the origination point for this idea, but she just wrote, like, an idea. And then I really honed and finessed it. What was her idea? So I am going over. I'm going to cover surgeries. I'm going to cover two surgeries specifically, that were done under the exact same circumstances, but they were remarkable circumstances because they took place in a very, very remote area of the world. So our first story takes place in 1961 at the. God help me. Novo Lezarevskaya, station.
>> Taylor: That Russian? Yes. Great. Hey, there you go. I knew that was a Russian word.
>> Farz: I'm trying. I don't know. I don't know. If you do this the way I do it, I'll see. I'll see. I'll read the name of the thing and then I'll type it out phonetically on my computer and then, like, space it out so I don't get too confused looking at the big word at.
>> Taylor: Once, and then I'll, like, forget what I was thinking when I typed it phonetically. Because, like, the actual phonetic type that they have, like, on Wikipedia, where it's, like, far more so contingent, like, it says exactly how to pronounce your name. I can't read that. I don't know.
>> Farz: It's like hieroglyphics.
>> Taylor: Yeah. There's like, a dash and, like, it doesn't make any sense. I'm like, okay, great.
>> Farz: So I'm going to refer to this thing as a station because I literally exhausted every brain cell I had just now trying to pronounce it.
>> Taylor: So I'm pretty sure you told me that you took Russian in school also.
>> Farz: So here's the thing. I can read and write Russian, but I do not know what I'm reading or what I'm writing. Like, the Alphabet I memorized, but I don't know the words.
>> Taylor: You could, like, pronounce it or.
>> Farz: No, actually, you know what? If I saw that. No, you know what? It would be just as hard if I saw it right now in Russian. It would still take me a minute. Like, I would know the Cyrillic Alphabet, so I would know what the hieroglyphics sound like, but it would still take me a minute to, like, actually read it out.
>> Taylor: Cool.
So I learned a lot about the weather in Antarctica
So here we are. We're in Russia, so. no.
>> Farz: No, we're not. We're not. M. So this station with whose first name I'm not going to pronounce anymore, we're going to go by its family.
>> Taylor: Ah.
>> Farz: Name of station. So this was a Soviet and now a Russian research station in Antarctica. So I learned a lot about the weather in Antarctica because I think that, like, the obvious answer is that it's, like, cold, but it's, like, a lot worse than cold. So it's actually technically a desert. Like.
>> Taylor: Right. Because there's no vegetation.
>> Farz: No, because there's no, precipitation. Yeah, there's no rain. There's no concept of rain in Antarctica. and the winners there are interesting because they actually run, like, almost totally. Actually, Actually, yeah. It's completely inverse to our winners. The winners there are from March to September, and that's obviously the worst time to be there. It's always horrible to be there, but that's the worst time to be there. That's when, like, the temperature drops. Averages are in the negative 80 degrees range. And so at a station like this, typically you have about 70 people that are at the station. But then, like, when winter's about to come. A lot of the, a lot of those people leave. And so you end up with this skeleton crew of, in the case that I'm talking about here today, about 14 people staying at the station. And like I said, like the, the winter time experience. there's several things that are going on there that result in it being a really tough place to live. One thing I learned that kind of shocked me was that the sea ice around the perimeter of Antarctica freezes to such an extent that it doubles the size of the continent. Like that's how badly it gets cold there. And so ships, going. It's impossible. Like yeah, a ship going. It would take them months to be able to traverse us. Also, blizzards are obviously very, very common and that makes visibility for things like airdrops super difficult. But that's only if you're even able to get a plane in the area because there's a thing also known as a cat. Okay, Cat, Cat. Catabitic wind, Katapatic wind. So these are wind gusts that are exacerbated by gravity pulling the dense air down rapidly. And like I said, it will create gusts of wind that are equivalent to hurricane level. And so that makes flying in kind of impossible because you're not. Because of the conditions. You can't fly in with like a traditional like jet airplane. It would be too cold especially. So one thing I read was that a big problem here was that fuel, lines and hydraulic lines would constantly freeze on planes like before they would touch the ground. And that's obviously like not a good thing. So everyone died.
Taylor: We're going to discuss a young Russian surgeon who performed an appendectomy
So in this case, we're going to be discussing a young 27 year old surgeon named Leonard Le. Leonid, Rosev. And he was at this station during April, which is the middle of the winter, when he started feeling nauseous, weak and pains in his abdomen. Given that you have done research on this topic, what do you think he might have been experiencing?
>> Taylor: Oh, an appendix exploding, which is called the what? Breast appendix. Appendicitis. I definitely said that and would never remember that.
>> Farz: So we'll have to figure out which episode that was. And y'all can go back and listen to the episode about appendicitises.
>> Taylor: appendicitises, appendices, appendixes, appendix.
>> Farz: So anyways, he realized that he was experiencing these symptoms and the only cure for it, like we said, was an appendectomy. M. Unfortunately for him, Leonard was the only doctor at the station and realized that he was the most qualified person to perform his Own surgery. So at 2:00am, the next day, on May 1st, he started the surgery with the assistance of a driver for the facility and a meteorologist.
>> Taylor: Poor meteorologist was like, I know. He's like, dude, absolutely not. This is what they're all.
>> Farz: I'm all. I'm good with green screens. I can do green screens all day long. I do not want to look at blood. So he ends up. He. He sets himself down, he lays half reclined, and he starts cutting into his abdominal wall. And actually. He actually cuts too deep and cuts into what's called a sesum, which is the starting point of our large intestine. So in addition to everything else, he now has to suture that up.
>> Taylor: Is he, like, drinking?
>> Farz: No, he has Novocain. He's using a local topical anesthetic on himself.
>> Taylor: Okay.
>> Farz: So after he fixes his small intestine cut with sutures, he pulls out his appendix and cuts it off and then sutures the end wound and then applies antibiotics to it, and then it sutures up the abdominal wall. And this is incredible because the assistance that he had do this for him also took pictures of him conducting the procedure. Can you look these up, Taylor?
>> Taylor: Yes. Wait, how do I. What do I. What do I search?
>> Farz: So do, Leonid, L E O NID surgery. And you should find them.
>> Taylor: The man who cut out his own appendix. Oh, God. All these images have the don't look at it mark. But we do it anyway.
>> Farz: Yeah, it's kind of. It's because it's just. It's horrible.
>> Taylor: Oh, God.
>> Farz: Isn't it wild?
>> Taylor: What? He's wearing all white, and then it's just the. And, like, digging into his stomach, and it's covered in blood. Wow.
>> Farz: So I described in this outline that the pictures of him. I, would describe him as, like, unfazed and almost disinterested in the activity of pulling his guts out. Like, he's like.
>> Taylor: He looks chill as with his. Like, I know he's wearing a mask when he's doing it, but other photos of him, he's like, what's up? He just, like, has, like, a mustache. Like, he looks like someone we know.
>> Farz: Yeah. Yeah. No, he's like. He's like, just. Yeah, I know exactly who you're talking about. He looks like he's fishing around in his guts, and it's just like, I guess I'm doing this now. I don't know what I'm gonna be doing next.
>> Taylor: Like, the way that cards. The way that you look when you are recording this podcast From a bed where I know you are. M resting your laptop on your belly. And then just, like, looking at me in a weird way, like, that's what he's doing. It's like he's doing.
>> Farz: Yeah. Like, would you. Would you say that the description of him just, like, unfazed is accurate?
>> Taylor: Yeah, it's wild.
>> Farz: So he ends up doing that. So please look that photo up because it's, like, absolutely stunning.
>> Taylor: Wow.
>> Farz: and then two weeks after this, he's back at work. Like, he just goes back to work. And then he leaves the station when the winter break ends. Because when winter ends, there is when they start flying planes, back over and ships start going back and people start doing rotational shifts and stuff like that. He ends up going back to Russia. He becomes a, a published author in medical science. and he actually ended up only being 60 years old, 66 years old, when he died in 2000 from lung cancer because he's Russian and He probably smoked 50 cigarettes a minute.
>> Taylor: He was also probably smoking a cigarette while he was doing this. Like, yeah, he's like. I bet there was like a. The meteorologist was, like, handing him a cigarette.
>> Farz: He's like, kind of a cool dude.
>> Taylor: He seems really cool.
Taylor says if he met me, he wouldn't hang out with us
>> Farz: Like, he seems like. Like, if he met me, he wouldn't hang out with me. Like, that's how cool is 100%. Thank you, thank you. Thank you so much for validating that, Taylor.
>> Taylor: I'm saying same. He would hang out with us. He'd be like, I am busy.
The second story takes place at the South Pole Station
>> Farz: so our second story is way more recent, and it's America oriented because it takes place the US Controlled Amudson Scott, South Pole Station. South Pole, obviously. Antarctica, same situation. They're actually like, only, like, 14. Not only. They're 1400 miles apart from each other, these two stations. And, a lot of countries have stations in Antarctica. Like, it's a big thing.
>> Taylor: They do. They're looking for. I don't know, man. It's not good.
>> Farz: The thing.
>> Taylor: Yeah, they're looking for, like, the part of the core that holds, like, the secret to infinite energy and. Or a plague that will kill all of us and. Or an alien worm that will also kill all of us.
>> Farz: I'm kind of okay with any of those outcomes, to be honest with you. I mean, I don't have kids, so, like, I don't really care what happens to the world. Like, that's fine. Find the plague. Release it. It's okay. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be dead soon anyways.
The 300 Club involves humans experiencing a 300 degree switch in temperature
so a really fun fact about this station, there's a thing there called the 300 Club. To our fanatically Christian listeners, you might think the 300 Club has to do with Billy Graham. It does not. The 300 Club has to do with humans who have experienced a 300 degree switch in temperature. And what you do when you're at the station and you gotta plan this because it's kind of the temperature outside would be nuts. So basically what you do is you sit in a hot sauna for set, at 200 degrees for about 10 minutes, and then you wait for the outside temperature to hit negative 100 degrees Fahrenheit.
>> Taylor: No.
>> Farz: Which happens, like, not that. Like I said, the average temp is around negative 80 degrees. So you gotta be like, it's gotta be a. You gotta plan for this. When it hits negative 100, you run out of the sauna into the cold and you do a loop around. There's a bunch of flags that are planted outside of the station in a circle fashion, and you do a loop around them. But it's interesting because you actually can't run because you can't snort up a ton of air because there's moisture in the air. It'll freeze your lungs and those will burst. And so you gotta, like, I don't.
>> Taylor: Know how you don't die.
>> Farz: You gotta kind of shuffle. You gotta kind of shuffle. They go out there naked except for shoes. They do wear shoes. But you shuffle and then you, like, make your way back inside. But you can't go too slow because you're, you'll die immediately of freezing. But you can't go too fast because then you'll destroy your lungs from breathing too much.
>> Taylor: What?
>> Farz: So that's a fun little thing. It's all a 300 club. Again, you go from 200 to negative 100. Very few people seem to have done this, but it seems fun. I would do it.
>> Taylor: I would absolutely not do it. I. I don't even like a sauna when it's like a little hot. Like, I'm certainly not going in like.
>> Farz: A super hot sauna when you come. Are you coming to Austin again anytime soon?
>> Taylor: No.
>> Farz: Okay. If you do plan something. I got really into the sauna cold plunge thing. I don't do it. I don't do it regularly because it's super expensive. But for like a little bit, I got, like into it when I was able to do it regularly. And it kind of is amazing. Like, you, you feel almost high doing it. So if you ever make it out here, we'll, we'll go do that. You sound so interested.
>> Taylor: Super not interested, but fine.
>> Farz: It's weird because your body's like, it's so you're. You go from one extreme discomfort to another extreme discomfort, and then you realize like, what even is Comfort? Is everything. Comfort now, like is, is, is, is, is life just a living hell and everything. You just gotta adapt your brain to be comfortable with anything. That's literally.
>> Taylor: Exactly.
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah, that's literally what it's like. That's why, I think that's why people get like hooked on it, is because you're just like, your body's shocked at like what it's having to survive.
>> Taylor: Oh my gosh.
An emergency room doctor discovered a lump on her breast in 1998
>> Farz: So back to this station. So in 1998, there was an emergency room doctor, whose name was Jerry Nielsen, who took a one year contract to be the main doctor at this station in 1998. So while she was there, she discovered a lump on her breast and was like, this is part where I'm like, it's got to suck being a doctor sometimes. Like, you know how bad things are. Like, you know what it looks like. Whereas, like, if you don't know, you're like, it'd be fine. But she found this lump on her breast and she used email and video conferencing with stateside doctors to be like, what's going on? She biopsied her own breast. She literally cut out tissue from herself to biopsy it and send the details of what she found back to stateside doctors via, email and remote telehealth. Which was, I'm sure, amazing. In 1998.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Wow. It's like, yeah, no, yeah, probably didn't.
>> Farz: Work too good, but those doctors, they were like, we can't tell if this is cancerous or not. And so what they decided to do was to get her more supplies via airdrop. This was apparently a nightmare because when they were trying to do this, there was a blizzard outside. So the plane, so it was too cold for the plane to land. And what they had to do is have some poor people run outside and light trash, trash cans on fire to, for the plane to know where to drop the sub. Because in the middle of blizzard, you actually don't know where you, where you're oriented underneath you. You can't see lights and stuff. And so they ended up lighting these blazes for the plane to see.
>> Taylor: I don't want to be someone that says Antarctica is stupid, but like, that is stupid.
>> Farz: You are so anti the thing. Like, I don't Know what your deal is, but you really don't want the plague to come back, and I don't get it.
>> Taylor: Don't. I've. I know you haven't watched X Files, but the best X Files episode, this happens.
>> Farz: You know, it's funny. I. I don't. I don't know for sure, but I feel like you and Jay, like, there's an element of judgment every time you remind me that I didn't watch the X Files. And,
>> Taylor: Oh, no, that's not. I think that's not imagined. You're not imagining that. No, that's true. I feel bad for you, and I'm judging you.
>> Farz: I watched everything I watch. Like, makes me the perfect X Files fan, and I haven't done it.
>> Taylor: I watched it when I worked at a hedge fund, like, 20 years ago. And I worked, for, like, six years, but I was, like, sick of it by, like, year four. So I just watched X Files on my computer. But I was, like, very clearly, like, in people. People could, like, see that I was doing it. And someone was like, I think Taylor's trying to get fired. And I was like. And they did not fire me. I continued, but I watched all the X Files.
>> Farz: But. But is that why y'all judge me so hard? Because I should be an X Files fan?
>> Taylor: Yes, you absolutely should be. It's so good.
>> Farz: Okay, fair enough.
Jerry Nielsen applied chemotherapy to herself in Antarctica to treat breast cancer
so anyways, back to Jerry Nielsen. So, the airdrop was conducted on July 11th of 1998. With these new supplies. It was conclusively determined that she definitely had breast cancer. And so she is the only person in history to have applied chemotherapy to herself.
>> Taylor: Whoa.
>> Farz: And having done so in Antarctica, the worst place to be alone with cancer.
>> Taylor: Wow.
>> Farz: So this was. I mean, it was going as well as you could expect, but what they decided to do was. So I mentioned that the wintertime in Antarctica ends in September. October is when they decided, hey, we gotta, like, get her out. Because, like, even October is, like, a little bit too close to winter to like, really be comfortable with flying into Antarctica. But they still did it. They're like, she needs to get out of there. Like, she's been doing chemotherapy to herself for a number of months. We got to get her back. They ended up running an emergency mission, like, several weeks early, to bring her back. And that's. They did. They landed, they picked her up, they took her back. And this is, like, really terrifying, apparently, for everybody involved, because, again, if the hydraulic lines on a plane freeze, like, the wings coming off a plane are less of a big deal than your hydraulics not working. Like, you are for sure dead. Like, if hydraulics don't work. And so that was the biggest concern in this situation. Regardless, they were able to pick her up and take her back to the state where she was administered professional treatment and the cancer went into remission. Unfortunately for her, that only lasted a few years. So in 2005, the cancer actually came back, and it was awful. It apparently went to her brain, her liver, and her bones. Like, she got riddled with cancer, and she died in March of 2009. But she spent that time being a motivational speaker, writing a book. and she got married again. And, yeah, I think she had a. She had a pretty decent life for what it was. but I don't want to sound.
>> Taylor: Insane, but, like, did anyone else there get cancer? Like, isn't it. Isn't it, like, very.
The poles get more cosmic radiation than the equator, according to NASA
Is it radioactive down there?
>> Farz: Are you trying to X Files this episode, right?
>> Taylor: I am. a little bit. Is the South Pole radioactive? Yeah, there's more cosmic. Oh, well, it says, no, it's not radioactive, but the poles get more cosmic radiation than the equator.
>> Farz: Are you on infowars.com?
>> Taylor: No, I'm the Center for Domestic Preparedness.gov cosmic radiation. Oh, good. This is enough to worry about. I don't need this. I don't need the center for Domestic Prep. No, absolutely not.
>> Farz: But, yeah, those were two fun surgery stories that I came up, with. and there was one. There was. I researched it a little bit that I was going to do an episode on. I was like, this is so stupid. I can't do an episode on it. There was a doctor in, like, the 1900s who became famous for cutting the heads off dogs to sew them onto other dogs and then reanimating the heads. Like, it actually worked. And. And I was like. I was. I was actually talking to Rachel, but I was like, what's the scientific discovery? Like, what are you trying.
>> Taylor: What do you mean?
>> Farz: Works, as in he was able to reconnect the blood supply enough to where the. The dog was aware and awake, but it was paralyzed, so it couldn't move anything, but, like, it was, like, cognizant of what was going on.
>> Taylor: Whoa.
>> Farz: It's like, what do you. What did you learn? Like, what are you gonna saw off opossum's head next is. Are you gonna advance medical science? Like, what?
>> Taylor: Yeah, like, you can't. You're not. Like, I don't know what's. Like, if he could tell you something, maybe, but it Was.
>> Farz: It was apparent. So sorry, it wasn't in the 1900s. I'm thinking about a guy who cut monkeys heads off in the 1900s. The dog guy was 1800s. And apparently Mary Shelley knew about this and, like, it was, like, a thing in her time and is believed to be the inspiration for Frankenstein as well, so.
>> Taylor: Well, I know I, don't think. I feel like I didn't hear that, but I know that she was. People reanimating frogs like electricity, but just, like, making them move.
>> Farz: It's called, like, gallantism, I think. Gallant something. Gallantism. You're right. You're right. You know what? I got my timing off the monkey decapitating reanimation guy. That was, like, the 1950s. The early 1900s was the dog decapitation guy. And then before that was the frog animation guy. It's just, like, various versions of, like, psychopaths throughout history that, like.
>> Taylor: No, wild.
>> Farz: So.
I like knowing that death is outside of a wall next to your head
>> Taylor: Well, cool. Those are gross stories.
>> Farz: Yeah. It's fun.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: I kind of want to go there, though.
>> Taylor: I don't. It's too cold for me. Like, I don't want to be in a substation where there's, like, a, finite amount of food.
>> Farz: But isn't it fun knowing that death is, like, outside of a wall next to your head?
>> Taylor: No.
>> Farz: I don't know. I feel like I go to sleep cozy knowing. Knowing that it's the same reason why I sleep so well. When it's, like, really windy and rainy outside, I sleep like a rock. It's so cozy.
>> Taylor: That's fair. No, I like it. I like sleeping, and I like when there's a storm, but I don't like it when it's like, if my appendix explodes, I'm gonna die.
>> Farz: I mean, I don't know. Be that. That guy. The chillest, coolest doctor in the world, man. For some reason, I feel like doctor. I, feel like Russians or Soviets in the 1960s were cool. When you look at pictures like Stalin when he was, like, 25, 30 years old, you're like, that guy. That guy is like. He would be a slam poet on a Wednesday and, like, a machine gunist on, like, a Friday.
>> Taylor: Like, he could move to Austin in, like, two seconds, and everybody would be like.
>> Farz: It's like the. Every. He's like every extreme of cool that exists on the spectrum of cool. Like, he. He does.
>> Taylor: I mean, he also killed a lot of people, but there's that one picture.
>> Farz: I know. We're not. We're not promoting.
>> Taylor: We're not promoting st. We're we're against. We're against the gen. Genocide.
>> Farz: We're against. We're against, like genocides in general.
>> Taylor: Yeah. And like, not just the ones that.
>> Farz: Stalin did, but I'm gonna add Hitler.
>> Taylor: I do like. I do like the pictures of FDR and Churchill and Stalin where they're like. Like, what are they even talking about? I love it.
>> Farz: It's cool as shit. It's like, hey, is it awesome? We rule the world.
>> Taylor: Cool.
>> Farz: Mm.
>> Taylor: Well, cool. Fun. That was super fun.
>> Farz: So that is my story.
We got a bunch of responses about Niagara Falls
Taylor, do you have anything to lead us off with?
>> Taylor: We got a bunch of responses about Niagara Falls. A lot of people have been there. Our friend Morgan has got. Been everywhere. I mean, honestly. But she had sent me a m. Video of her underneath, like a different waterfall that's like, more powerful that I might share. And then I shared some stuff from Kara because she actually went to Niagara Falls in the summer and made like a nice Instagram story about it. So I shared that. And then Nadine also, she lives in Canada, but they've been to the falls a lot and they really like it.
>> Farz: So we chased waterfalls and, nothing bad happened.
>> Taylor: Yeah, I think it. Oh, and they want. Everyone wanted us to know that, the glaciers melt and that goes into the Great Lakes and then that creates Niagara Falls. That's where the water camps comes from.
>> Farz: That's how much they melt. M. I don't understand that. How can it melt?
>> Taylor: Also, like, snow melts too. But, like, you know, it's happening like all year round because, like, even here in the desert, we have some mountains that have snow through, like, May. What? It's like in the 90s, but I can see a mountain with snow on it still. You know, seriously, not next to me, but it's like, higher. Like, there's a. There's this hike that my friend Don might do, and it's from downtown Palm Springs to the top of whatever mountain that is. Where, like, there's. In Palm Springs, there's a, like a gondola, like a. In the air that takes you up to the top of this mountain. But the hike is like the elevation goes from like 0 to 10,000 on the hike. And it's like one of the hardest hikes in America. And but by the time you get to the top, you're cold. You know, you start in Palm Springs where you're hot. I'm trying to the top. You're cold just like. But it's still like, snowy up there.
>> Farz: We can make it the 50 degree club.
>> Taylor: That's true. But I'll take that. We'll take the tram.
>> Farz: Yes, yes.
>> Taylor: And, like, wave at the people who are walking up it.
>> Farz: well, thanks for writing in telling us your stories. We, love hearing from you. So do more of that at doom to fail pod.com or on these socials.
>> Taylor: Doomed to fail pod. Tell your friends, tell your family. Oh, also, let us know if we were in your wrapped of, like, Spotify or Mind Pocket Cast where I listen to stuff. Thank you, podcasts. Please tell us.
>> Farz: Got a shout out. Daniel, thank you for sharing that we were in your top five Spotify M.
>> Taylor: And if you send me Daniel's, address, I'll send him a sticker. That's part of it. If you let us know that you're wearing your top, we will send you a sticker. and I will mail it to you whenever. And also, far as I really think that inside Spotify, there is a way for you to see our creator stats.
>> Farz: Did I set that up?
>> Taylor: I don't know. We'll talk about it later. But, like, I really feel like you have access to stuff because I see other podcasts being like, Spotify says we have this much growth this year and we release this number of episodes. And I'm like, it has to be in there, right?
>> Farz: I am going to Google around. Cool.
>> Taylor: Well, thank you. Thanks, everyone.
>> Farz: Thanks all. Goodbye.