Well, well, well! Why do we do all the festivities around a presidential inauguration anyway? Today, let's look at some of the most famous speeches and learn the history behind the US Presidential transfer of power, from Washington's inauguration in downtown NYC to the tradition of leaving a letter for your successor! Some of our favorites will include FDR's jab at Hoover and JFK's subtle nods at Eisenhower!
Well, well, well! Why do we do all the festivities around a presidential inauguration anyway? Today, let's look at some of the most famous speeches and learn the history behind the US Presidential transfer of power, from Washington's inauguration in downtown NYC to the tradition of leaving a letter for your successor! Some of our favorites will include FDR's jab at Hoover and JFK's subtle nods at Eisenhower!
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>> Taylor: In the matter of the people of State of California vs. Oriental James Simpson, case number BA097. And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. Boom.
>> Farz: We are back, online. Taylor, welcome to this, I know why I'm welcoming you to your own show. Hi, Taylor, how are you?
>> Taylor: I'm fine. How are you?
>> Farz: I'm m. Good, I'm good. I'm obviously very confused, but I'm doing well.
>> Taylor: But welcome Fars. And welcome everybody to Doomed to Fail. We are a, twice weekly podcast. We bring you historical disasters, failures, interesting stories. And I'm Taylor, joined by Fars.
>> Farz: And we are fine. We're fine. Welcome everyone.
>> Taylor: Welcome.
I went to a wonderful women's retreat this weekend
I went to a wonderful women's retreat this weekend. It was three days of like, private chef made food and yoga and a sound bath and a massage and a hot tub, and it was amazing.
>> Farz: So I did that. Not a ladies retreat, although it actually was mostly ladies. There's a place here in Austin called Miraval, which I think is a Hyatt property. And it's unique in the sense that it's almost like a commune situation where you just stay in these little huts and cabins. They're really nice. It's really, really nice place. and the entire resort is like cell phoneless and it's super, super quiet and it just has open spaces for like, yoga and meditation and like a pool area. Like, it's just very, I don't know, woo. Woo. Ish. but I thought it was really relaxing. It's really nice. Really nice.
>> Taylor: yeah, I loved it. It was definitely like, it was, it was run, by my friends Caitlin and Jen. And so they have like a, a whole thing that you do. And we, you know, had a bunch of like, little sessions and stuff. We talked about ourselves and it was great.
>> Farz: Sweet. Yeah, very fun. was that in, Joshua Tree?
>> Taylor: No, it was near San Diego.
>> Farz: Okay, nice. Beautiful.
>> Taylor: Yeah, yeah.
>> Farz: sweet.
I have a fun one that's a little bit different from our normal format
So am I going first today?
>> Taylor: Yeah, go ahead.
>> Farz: Okay. So I have a fun one that's like a little bit, different from our normal format. and, and if I'm being totally real, it took me until I realized that it's inauguration day to come up with the idea because, like, where did all these traditions come from? Why do we do the things we do? And I really just like a lot of really cool, fun traditions that has like, a lot of like, backstories to it that I thought would be interesting to talk about. So we're going to get into inaugurations. I'm actually going to end on like a really fun, like hate filled relationship between two former presidents that are not going to be Biden and Trump, ironically. I can't wait. Yeah, it'll be fun.
The tradition of leaving a letter for your successor dates back to Ronald Reagan
So, first tradition, leaving a letter for your successor. I'm sure you're aware of this, right?
>> Taylor: Mm,
>> Farz: Okay, so do you know who started the tradition.
>> Taylor: Link? No, I was going to get someone who died. The two first guesses were people who died. Like they would not have known.
>> Farz: I don't know, it's way earlier than that. So Ronald Reagan was the very first president to do this. and he left a letter for the guy who was his VP when he was president, George H.W. bush, when he became president. and I think his letter to his successor is probably the funnest out of all of them. And I mean, Reagan was always known to have a sense of humor. He ended up, he actually hand drew an elephant surrounded by turkeys. And at the top of the letter he printed, don't let the turkeys get you down. And then he wrote a little, little nice letter underneath that about like, hey, like you're, you know, welcome to the office, you're gonna have a great time, do all, you know, all that good stuff. H.W. bush's letter to Clinton was the first time that it was referenced that a successor's success was the country's success. You know, they say, like, we're all rooting for you because your success is the country's success. He was the first one to do that. interestingly enough, when Clinton left a letter for George W. Bush, he said, quote, the burdens you now shoulder are great, but often exaggerated. And I was like, how can you say that? You like, you got impeached, like, your wife almost left you, you bombed a pharmaceutical company, you oversaw genocide in Rwanda. And he was like, he's a chill guy.
>> Taylor: I was like thinking, I was thinking about, I would just think about Phil Hartman again, I think this weekend. when he's like, warlord attack or whatever. He's like, warlord, warlord. While he's like taking fries and. Yeah, she's for grips from People. That SNL skit, that's the best one.
>> Farz: but George W. Bush left a really heartfelt one. I think that the one that he left for Obama was probably the most like, heartfelt letter out of all of them that we know of. Obama's letter to Trump. It was weird and interesting. It wasn't weird. It was just really, really interesting. Some of the stuff that he said in there, because now that you see where the country is at, you're like, oh, you totally missed. You missed the cues of, like, what was going on here. Because what he ended up saying in his letter to Trump was he was referring to American leadership in the world. And he goes, quote, it's up to us to sustain the international order. And I was like, wait, I think. I think the countries resound. They decide that we don't want to be, like, in charge of being the world police at this point. and so anyway, that was really interesting how he, like, went that direction with it. It was a long letter, actually. That's just one piece of it that I kind of plucked out of it. Yeah, mostly I plugged that out of it because I was just like. I was like, that's like, people don't want that anymore. Like, I don't know. I just thought it was, like, it was interesting. Like, it's clear that he comes from a different frame of reference. and then I feel like people do want that. Yes. Other people want that. But if you're in America, you're like, why don't we just take care of Americans instead of, like, having wars funded across the world?
>> Taylor: Like, yeah, I mean, we're not. We don't.
>> Farz: Like, we're not good at it. Like, we don't agree on that. In no situation.
>> Taylor: There's no thing where, like, we agree on that. Yeah, but it's not like everyone.
>> Farz: I mean, I don't know. I think that going to. In Middle Eastern wars probably isn't a good thing to do. I mean.
>> Taylor: No, no, I know, but not everybody thinks that way. I don't know. It's like, it wasn't like.
>> Farz: Well, yeah, that's. I mean, that's kind of the thing that's kind of like, what I found interesting about was because I think, like, Bush got us into wars, and then the Republicans were obviously super into wars. And then you have Democrats, who. I don't know if they were, like, super into wars necessarily, but it was like, whatever. This is like, the engine that's in motion. Let's keep it going. And that's what Obama is referring to in this letter. And it's like, no, we, like, let's not do that anymore. Like, we're not good at it. We're not good at invading other countries. We're not good at, like, trying to do regime changes. And then Trump did leave a letter for Biden, and we actually have no idea what he wrote. All Biden would ever disclose is, quote, the President wrote a very, very generous letter because it was private. I won't talk about it until I talk to him. But it was generous, which. Yeah, I don't know what he could have wrote in the middle of January 6th. That was like.
>> Taylor: So it's.
>> Farz: I imagine what Trump wrote was, fuck you. Fuck your lecture.
>> Taylor: Yeah, exactly. Like I'm dumb. Or like, he's, like, drew a picture of, like, a middle finger. Yeah. And that was it. If he did it at all, you know, so, well.
Biden apparently left Trump a letter at Resolute desk
>> Farz: So Trump. I just saw this. I have CNN running in the background that.
>> Taylor: I heard that little scratch squeak.
>> Farz: Okay, let me know if it becomes super distracting. Biden did leave Trump a letter. so we know. We don't know what it says. I mean, he literally apparently just got to, like, the Resolute desk. So, like, we don't know. But there is a letter there, apparently.
Much has been made about inauguration location since Trump decided to mix it up
so tradition number two is location. So, as with this situation, much has been made about the inauguration location since Trump decided to, like, mix it up at the very last second. But the Constitution doesn't actually define. Does not define a location for the inauguration. and some haven't even been in Washington, D.C. so, for example, George Washington, his inauguration was at, Federal hall in New York City, which I've never. I don't even know. I don't know what that is.
>> Taylor: I know where it is. Yeah, I know that where it is. It's downtown. It's, like, near the World Trade Center. But, like, DC Wasn't the capital then.
>> Farz: Yeah, I don't know when DC Was capital. It doesn't matter.
>> Taylor: I mean, the capital was New York. And then it was, like, then, I think maybe Philadelphia, but then.
>> Farz: Then D.C. well, even later on when D.C. was the capital, there's inaugurations that didn't even happen there.
>> Taylor: made to the Capitol in 1790.
>> Farz: Yeah, well, yeah, since then, there's been. I'll get into other ones that didn't happen there. So, 1801 is when inaugurations, as, like, a matter of practice, move to the U.S. capitol. and it was. But up until 1981, it was on. It was held on the east front. The side that's like a parking lot right now. That's where it was held. It was 1981 was the first time when it was held on the west front, the one that we're, like, most accustomed to seeing when Reagan took the oath of office for his first term there. So, interestingly enough, at. This is, like, a very fascinating like, indication of like who our politicians are these days. So when Reagan took that inauguration that moved to the west side of the capital on his first term, he was just shy. He was like 30 days shy or not even that. Like 15 days shy of his 70th birthday. He was the oldest person to assume the presidency until 2017 when Trump took the oath at 70 years and 220 days old. Then four years later, Biden took it at 78 years old, and now Trump is taking it at 78 years and 220 days old.
>> Taylor: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I mean, I can't get much. We can't go much further. People don't live.
>> Farz: Why not? Why not? I mean, I mean, what if we end up living to 150, like maybe we'll have 100 year old president, who knows?
>> Taylor: I guess. I mean, I would just like, if I would. I don't want to work when I'm 42. Why would I want to work when I'm 78?
>> Farz: I don't know.
>> Taylor: I know and I know, I know, I'm like, different because I'm like not someone who would do this because you have to be a certain kind of crazy to even do it anyway. But like, man, guys, I don't know.
>> Farz: The podcast, the Pod Save America guys were like, Biden is quiet quitting because, like, nobody's heard from him. And like, like in the last like month or so.
>> Taylor: He did a bunch of pardons today. Do you mean. Yeah, he, ah, did a thing about the, he did a, press conference about the ceasefire.
>> Farz: I mean, dude, he's been, he's been. The guy's checked out. He's like, it, I'm done with this. Like, I'm leaving anyways.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
So including Trump's second inauguration, seven presidents have been sworn in inside Capitol
>> Farz: So including Trump's second inauguration, seven presidents have been sworn in inside the US Capitol. Reagan, was the last one sworn in the Capitol. well, sorry, they say Reagan was the last one that was sworn in the actual capital of the Rotunda, but he was actually privately sworn in at the White House for a second term. Then the actual ceremony was being held in the Rotunda. So slight deviation there.
>> Taylor: Cool.
>> Farz: After, only had a private swearing in for his fourth term and Obama did a private swearing in for his second term since January 20 fell on a Sunday that year. So I didn't know that either, neither.
Inaugural speeches are a great opportunity for presidents to dunk on previous administrations
my favorite thing, inaugural speeches. This is my favorite. So I love this because there's two tacks that presidents take here, which I've noticed. One is they try to unify the country, which is like, blah, boring, who cares? The better one, the more fun one is. They use it as an opportunity to just dunk on the previous administration while that previous administration is sitting right next to them. So I think that from what I had gathered with researching, the kind of break from civility really started with FDR's dig at Herbert Hoover, which is going to be a theme later on. mostly because Herbert Hoover's presidency was overshadowed by the Great Depression and the perception that Hoover's failure to address the economy was driven by his fear of the federal government getting too involved in people's lives. Which is why FDR and his inauguration utters the famous line, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. That was like their version of a dunk. Like he was dunking on Hoover being like, hey, this guy was too big of a wuss to take care of our problems and we're not going to live in fear anymore.
>> Taylor: Nice.
>> Farz: JFK also apparently dunked on Eisenhower, who in the build up to the Cold War, took more of an indirect approach. So JFK at his inauguration said, quote, let every nation know whether it wishes us well, well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship. Mostly because he was, he took a, he actually addressed Nikita Khrushchev. Whereas up until this point, Eisenhower was very much like, no, let's not go face to face with these guys. Like, we can just use diplomacy back channel our way around this. And JFK was the one that came, was like, no, no, the way this guy's running this is not going to work. Let's, let's change it up. Reagan, indirectly addressed Jimmy Carter's perceived government overreach into people's lives by saying in his inauguration, the government is not the solution to our problems. It is the problem.
>> Taylor: But, no, but, you know, but I'm a. I know, I'm just, I'm a government person. I think that the government should help people.
>> Farz: Yeah, of course it should help people. It's just like, yeah, I mean.
>> Taylor: They should be available to, like, help people.
>> Farz: Yeah. I'm not of the demographic that requires the government to be a part of my day to day life, but.
>> Taylor: But it is.
>> Farz: If I had a, you know, huge drug problem and a kid who I couldn't take care of, then, yeah. I mean, as a citizen, I'd want the government to take care of that kid. Figure out how to get my. Together. Sure.
>> Taylor: But it's also, it's like everything else too, you know, like your ability to get goods from other countries. Like your ability to exist, you know, the government doesn't. It's, involved in your everyday, you know. Yeah, so we didn't do it. Right. I don't know what that is, but I'm just saying that, like, J. Edgar Hoover is on everyone else's phone. Why shouldn't he be on mine? We just watched Clue, though.
>> Farz: Very apropos of this conversation, actually. so my favorite inauguration speech had to do with Trump's first inauguration where he talked about, how the era of American carnage is over. And then George W. Bush leaned over to Hillary Clinton and said, quote, well, that was some weird shit. That was like, definitely my favorite moment. Do you remember that.
>> Taylor: She laughed at him today? I don't remember.
>> Farz: They seem to have struck up a friendship.
>> Taylor: Yeah, I mean, I know someone who works, in the government and they were telling me how surprised they were at how a lot of people, people who are very against each other publicly or whatever, like they're friends, you know.
Some presidents use their own personal Bibles for swearing in
>> Farz: So the other fun one is the hand on the Bible thing, which has a lot of really cool history behind it. So swearing in on the. With your hand on a Bible that was started by George Washington, again, not in the Constitution. The only deviations from this are John Quincy Adams, he sworn on a book of law. Teddy Roosevelt didn't use any book when he was sworn in. LBJ was sworn in with his hand on a Catholic missile, which I don't even know what that was, but I guess the book of prayers.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: And some presidents use their own personal Bibles. Biden used his own personal Bible. Others have used George Washington's Bible. George, W. Bush, he wanted to use George Washington's Bible, but apparently, like, obviously this thing is super old and it's super frail. and his swearing in took place like on a rainy day in D.C. and I guess, like, they told him, no, you can't use it, which I didn't even know you could do. I didn't know you could tell a president no to something like that, but I guess you can, which is interesting. Lincoln's Bible also has a story. it was actually owned by a clerk of a U.S. supreme Court justice and used by Lincoln at his inauguration. Obama also used the Lincoln Bible, as did Trump. Although in both of his swearing ins, he had the Lincoln Bible in a protective box, then his family Bible on top of it. And I just found this out, like right before we started recording that, at the swearing in that just happened. he didn't have a channel in the Bible at all. So Melania. Say again?
>> Taylor: M. They just forgot maybe.
>> Farz: So Melania held both Bibles up the way she did in the first inauguration. And then he just had his hand by his side. And you can't actually tell if you watched it on tv, but apparently there's some pictures of him from m. The side that you can actually see.
>> Taylor: Yeah, I've seen them. I think he just didn't pay attention. Wasn't really paying attention.
So what is actually required by the Constitution? So the reciting of office
>> Farz: So what is actually required by the Constitution? So the reciting of the oath of office. Actually, the main thing that's required by the Constitution and the language used is, quote, I do solemnly swear or affirm that I will faithfully execute the office of the President of the United States and will be and will to the best of my ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. The so help me God part, that's not in there, that was added by George Washington. So the other thing defined is timing. So the original timing as defined in the constitution was March 4, and then later on there was a constitutional amendment moving it to January 20th. The reason being that that's a lot of time for a lame duck president. Right? Like, I mean, you lose your election.
>> Taylor: In November and all of a sudden.
>> Farz: You get like, yeah, we're just going to chill for five months.
>> Taylor: Like, it's not five months notice at your job.
>> Farz: Totally, totally.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: and then if the incoming president doesn't take the oath at the specified time, which is noon Eastern time on the 20th, then the incoming VP would then assume office. Is the rules.
>> Taylor: That's fun.
>> Farz: So. But good.
>> Taylor: But they have to be sworn in.
>> Farz: Yes.
>> Taylor: Yeah, but they could be sworn at any time.
>> Farz: They could be sworn at any time. That one's not constitutionally defined.
>> Taylor: Got it.
The funniest transition of power was between Herbert Hoover and Roosevelt
>> Farz: So the funniest. Not funniest, but the funnest transition of power, in my opinion was between Herbert Hoover and fdr. Do you know about this?
>> Taylor: But you already told me that about the note.
>> Farz: Yes.
>> Taylor: Okay. What else?
>> Farz: These two hated each other.
>> Taylor: I love that.
>> Farz: Like, they make me feel good.
>> Taylor: It makes me feel good that, like, I mean, I know my. I know that these things have happened in the past and everything happens and whatever. We have to continue to be alive. But, I do enjoy that.
>> Farz: It's just. It's funny because as I'm telling you the story, because the story really just paints like Herbert Hoover is like an arrogant.
>> Taylor: I thought about. About learning more about him because I just. I know Hooverville's. I know.
>> Farz: Yeah, me too.
>> Taylor: Blamed for The Depression and all of those things. But, like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know a ton.
>> Farz: But what's funny is, like, as I'm telling this story, just remember that fdr, by almost every historian's account, is like a top three president. It's like some variation of fdr, Washington, Lincoln. Like, it's just like they're kind of all in there together and, like, it just depends on which historian you're reading about. But the order will change, but it'll be those three, for obvious reasons. so as I'm reading this, like, that's who Hoover thinks is, like, a con artist and like a charlatan. It's really funny. so three years. So the election was. The election that, was between, Hoover and Roosevelt was in 1932. Three years earlier, in 29, is when the stock market collapsed, leading to the Great Depression, and unemployment was at 25%. And exactly what you said. The thing I remember the most about this era from, like, school was Hooverville's, which is where people would live because they couldn't afford housing. So they would put up shanty towns around the city.
>> Taylor: Mm.
>> Farz: And Hoover's approach, this was called, like, the voluntary policy, which was basically, call it businesses and be like, hey, please don't lay anybody off or lower wages. Just don't do it and we'll be fine. That was his approach, which is like, crazy. so fdr, who was then governor of New York, he showed up with his New Deal, and he said, hey, we can do more. And the reception of the voting populace was huge. He won 57 to 39% over Hoover. FDR basically painted Hoover throughout the campaign as, like, a feckless and ineffective leader. And it reminded me a ton of, like, how the Reagan and how the Reagan and Carter campaigns kind of size each other up, where Carter was kind of shown as, like, this, like, nice guy, but, like, is that really who you want to, like, Exactly. Rattle a saber. It was one of those deals.
Hoover invited FDR to the White House to talk about economic issues
so one tradition that isn't, inauguration related, but election related is that the outgoing president invites the incoming president to the White House to talk through major issues they'll basically be inheriting along with photo ops and show, like, a peaceful transfer of power. That actually starts with Hoover inviting FDR to the White House, interestingly. Yeah. and this was almost seen as an attempt by Hoover to address his issues with FDR's characterization of his economic policies. I don't think this was done because he was trying to be super cool guy, like to fdr. Because what ended up happening was that he basically just put FDR in a room and just started lecturing him for an hour about economic policies and why he did the things that he did. And later on, Hoover would tell people that he had been, quote, educating a very ignorant but well meaning young man. That was his perception and like hilarious. Mostly of what I read of FDR is like, you're just like listening to a child have a tantrum and just being like, just go, just keep going, it's fine. Like, just go. Like, you know, like, he didn't seem to engage with it, but it was obvious that Hoover was super upset and pissed about the election.
>> Taylor: I wonder if a little bit of it was to be like, look at the White House, it's not wheelchair accessible.
>> Farz: Maybe because there was one. You know, what I read was that he was shocked to see how, paralytic FTR was. FDR hit it decently well. So they barely talk after this one visit. The point where the media took notice and started writing stories about it. they did ride together in the inaugural car ride true to the Capitol building. and this was, you know, know, consistently done. There's a picture of this. And from what has been said about this ride, they didn't speak to each other at all. Like, they were just like, I'm done with this guy. Screw this guy. It's really interesting because it wasn't as like egregious as Trump not accepting election results in 2020, but this was like Hoover saying, I don't think the American people know what they bought because FDR's campaign lied about me so much that, it was, it was like he got cheated. Is the sentiment that was coming across the page of Hoover's perspective of this. Like, he didn't think that he actually lost, like, fair and square. I think he thought, like, these guys made stuff up about me and lied about me and American. They're making people like they needed someone to get in the way of their own decision making. And apparently he spent most of his career trying to disrupt any New Deal initiatives by fdr. Like he was actively trying as a private citizen to like destroy his agenda. Yeah, that's how big, that's how badly, that's how convicted he was in his beliefs of what happened here. So really fun, really fun little, little, little grubby little man.
>> Taylor: I know I have no idea what he looks like, but I also feel like he's grubby.
>> Farz: He looks like the citizen Kane guy or Orson Wells. He looks like Orson Wells.
>> Taylor: He does. Yeah.
>> Farz: that's my story.
>> Taylor: Cool. Who am I looking at? Oh, I feel like something else. Someone else said something about Herbert Hoover today. It was maybe my father in law texted me. What did she text me? Have you read this book? Oh, a book about McKinley. He's curious about McKinley. yeah. That's so. I don't know, so interesting. I wonder. Oh, m. My God, it's so funny. There's a. You can look up sad Herbert Hoover as one of the options when you're googling a picture of him. He looks sad in these. He's kind of cute. I like a round face. but he, you know, That's funny. I don't know. Yeah, I wonder what. I feel like I don't understand. And I know we have some Canadian listeners and I think a couple downloads, like, over in the uk. Like, I don't understand how in parliamentary systems the leader is always like, I'm just gonna step down today. There's elections next week or whatever it is.
>> Farz: It is wild.
>> Taylor: you know, and like, it's just like, that's so different. And ours is like. I don't know, I feel like that's never. I mean, people have stepped down and like, whatever. We have, like a thing. But you're not like, oh, there's a surprise election coming up. Like, that. That never happens here, so I have time to do it. But then also, I don't know if you. I watched like, a little bit of when King Charles was coronated, and that is ridiculous.
>> Farz: It is ridiculous.
>> Taylor: It, like, sits on that rock that, like, means something. There's, like, diamonds that, like, just have so much blood on them. And it's like, what is happening? You know?
>> Farz: You know what's funny is you, as you say, that was. I did watch the entire inauguration and. And I was like, why am I so into this and find it so interesting? Because I think the exact opposite of the British version where I'm like, this is just so much pomp and circumstance for, like, a useless honorific.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Like, I guess that's why. I guess because being president, United States isn't a useless honorific, but being like king of England is kind of a useless honorific.
>> Taylor: Yeah. I mean, you get a lot of money, but. Yeah, you don't do anything.
Do the Kardashians get money from taxes or other sources
>> Farz: But do you get money? I mean, don't they always have money? Like, isn't like.
>> Taylor: Well, they have. They just have like a billion dollars. That's just like the family money. I Don't know if they have to give it back if they're not working anymore. But they get money from taxes and like, the people pay for, like, their castles to be cleaned.
Taylor: Nadine in Canada says Canadian bacon is not American bacon
>> Farz: Do you have anything for us to read off?
>> Taylor: I have a couple of things. I think I have a, A message from Nadine in Canada about Canadian bacon, which was a really funny. She was like, do you think that that's what we have instead of bacon in Canada? Because it is not what we have. Like they call it. They call regular American bacon side bacon. And that's what they, mean when they say bacon, really. Otherwise. Otherwise the other stuff, the round stuff is back bacon, which I imagine is. We're talking about where it is on the pig, right? So like the back bacon is the Canadian bacon and then side bacon is like bacon bacon.
>> Farz: Interesting. Okay, so they do have our bacon.
>> Taylor: then they do, yeah. I feel like why wouldn't. They would, like, have to have it. They would not have it.
>> Farz: No. What if they just export the side to America?
>> Taylor: Every single pig in Canada, part of it goes to America for bacon. And Canadians are not allowed to make that part into bacon and have delicious breakfast sandwiches.
>> Farz: I mean, what if it is a.
>> Taylor: Tale as old as time that is part of a, A contract that was signed, between the two countries in 1734.
>> Farz: Some sort of a treaty, I'm sure.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Of the bacon Baconator.
>> Farz: Well, thank you, Nadine, for clarifying us. Clarifying.
>> Taylor: Thank you if we ever go. And thank you, Nadine, for all of your tips on. I asked her some questions about visiting Canada. So thank you for answering me there too.
>> Farz: Sweet.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Anything else?
>> Taylor: no.
>> Farz: All right, well.
>> Taylor: Oh, yeah, thanks. I guess I could sign us out and tell people we're finding me. I'm like, I don't know.
>> Farz: Let's see where they'll find us.
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>> Farz: Appreciate you all. thank you, Taylor. Thank you all. We'll join you again later on this week. I'm going to go ahead and cut it off.