Once upon a time, Bernie Tiede became BFFS with an old lady - she wasn't very nice. Eventually, he killed her. A tale as old as time (it's not that, but it's a tale). Join us for re-release of Episode 18 part 1!
Once upon a time, Bernie Tiede became BFFS with an old lady - she wasn't very nice. Eventually, he killed her. A tale as old as time (it's not that, but it's a tale).
Join us for re-release of Episode 18 part 1!
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hi everyone welcome to this week's re-release today we are re-releasing
episode 18 part one on Bernie teed and Bernie had a friend named margerie who
was older than him and she wasn't very nice but did he need to kill her I don't
I don't think so you can probably just you know stop talking to someone rather than kill them like most likely 99.9% of
the time definitely do that um this will move movie about this story it's called Bernie actually haven't seen it but it's
with Jack Black but I wanted to tell you all that I watched the recent Jumanji and Jack Black is just what a gift to
humanity that that man exists so um hope you enjoy this week's re-release and as
a reminder we are re-releasing our first 26 episodes that we did two stories per show re-releasing them one at a time so
you can listen to them on their own and when we get to 26 we'll have to think of something else to give you on Fridays
but for now um enjoy episode 18 part one I'm Bernie teed thanks tide I don't know
I can't remember matter of the people of State of California versus orth James Simpson case number ba09 and so my
fellow Americans ask not what your country can
do for you ask what you can do for your country look what one got me this is the
visual part okay Taylor's showing me a sign that says on air it's like an old tiny
it takes me back to watching Frasier I used to like to watch Frasier does it look backwards to you no you screenshot
it looks it's backwards to me it says on air there we go we got it all right it's
very exciting now my lights on and I'm ready good good the light that only you
can see the light that only I can see so yeah we'll go ah and kick things off um hi everyone welcome to Doom to
fail I'm fars joined here by Taylor hi Taylor how are you good like trying to
figure out where to put my on air sign I feel like it needs to be not a problem I'm gonna put it on my door I think it
needs to go outside it needs to be something that you can like trigger Taylor just got a lovely on air sign one
of those old timey ones that radio people used to have uh and it looks great it looks very
professional like a ring light just like us we're super professional super profession as always so per usual we're
going to be doing two stories one historical One True Crime around relationships that we're do to fail and
um we I think I go first this time yeah yes okay so why don't we start by you
telling us what your drink is Taylor I will then segue into my drink and story great um today I'm drinking holy water
straight from Jesus's breast loving nipple I don't know where holy you know
blessed water is holy water just any water that a pastor yeah I remember like I used to
there was a Catholic Church my mom had us go to a couple times when I was like a teen and there was like a water
fountain and it was like this water fountain has been blessed or like the pipe had been blessed it like went to the little fountain that had the thing so that like covered it so you didn't
have to bless like all the droplets of water individually in like the bird bath that you put the baby
in it feels cheap to do it that way that's all I I want every vessel to
be blessed as the water comes into it me too absolutely I'm perfectionist though you know that about me uh so yours is
holy water um which I don't think you're supposed to drink but what do I know I can't hurt prob can't hurt hydrated yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah it's Jesus water hydrates better than regular water it's like gator it's got electrolytes my dream today is Prickly
Pear because we are going to be covering a rather prickly individual in today's True Crime Story and it takes place in
Texas which is not the home of pear I feel like that's more of like a New
Mexico or Arizona thing but you can definitely get some good prickly pear juice in Texas as well so just like the
juice of a prickly pear not like a prickly pear Margarita just the juice of a prickly pear you know what's funny is
when I was researching this I actually looked up prickly pair recipes and I found the margarita one and it looked so good and I was like write it down and I
got into researching the story and I forgot to write down the recipe for the prickly pair there's someone here in Joshua Tree that like I follow on
Instagram who has a prickly pair and like a store or something and they made they made a perly peir Margarita it looks really fun it looks delicious it
looks incredible yeah it's a lovely color it's fuchsia if you so just so everybody knows because y'all might not
know quickly pair it's a cactus but it's a cactus that has that like Little Flower at the very top that's like a very very bright fuchsia color and
that's the thing that you can open up and drink which like if you're ever in the desert you can open a quickly pair
and drink that and you'll be fine well you'll still probably die but yeah that's mostly from the animals that are
going to Maul your bones yeah so okay my story thank you my story today
is about the relationship between a man named Bernie teed and margorie
nent have you heard these names before I don't think so okay you will probably
remember as I as I go into this because this is actually a pretty famous case Bernie was actually famously played by
actor Jack Black in the 2011 film by Richard linklater titled
Bernie do you does that ring a bell no damn
okay uh I will say this if you haven't seen it you should it is a amazing movie
it is so fun it's fun it's funny it's dark it's witty it's clever it's like it
the Ambiance of it is just fantastic Jack Black plays a f fantastic character
and Shirley mlan is kind of like the I don't know the the his other lead in the movie and she's obviously amazing in
everything she does as well but the movie itself and the story that I'm going to go into both kind of Hit the
tone of what would we essentially classified as dark humor because um it is about murder but it is fun it's a fun
murder so um it does say and this I feel like is ties to us it says the book is
based on it's called Midnight in the Garden of East Texas yes yeah I'm gonna write so it's not a book it's an article
um got it and I'm gonna reference that article a lot because that was the origination point so Richard link later
are you familiar with him the director I'm gonna say yes yes confused okay it
was funny because the way you phrase it I was like I'll say yes as long as you don't ask any follow-up questions I'm looking it up now I can answer now that
it is that I'm on um Wikipedia but yes yeah no he's a he's
a he's great his movies are fantastic um he's an Austin native this story takes
place in East Texas which isn't terribly far from Austin and so it got a lot of press coverage in Texas monthly when it
was published and that was the basis that article was the basis for everything we're going to discuss here
including the movie so let's get into it uh
so I'm gonna get into the story here in a minute but first I just want to set the tone of how people in the city where
this took place felt about the individuals that we're going to be discussing again the names are margorie nen she goes by Marge and Bernie teed
goes by Bernie so here Mar in the movie is that shy mlan shy McLean yeah so here
are direct quotes from that article you just referenced okay one of them says
quote if I made a list of people I knew were going to heaven Bernie would be the first on that list and quote I love it
referencing Marge quote if she had held her nose any higher she would have drowned in a rainstorm end quote this is
from A city councilman named Olan jafreen who said quote from the day that
deep freeze was opened you haven't been able to find anyone in town saying poor Mrs new Jen people here here saying poor
Bernie end quote spoiler alert margin's up in a deep freeze so that's where this
quote comes from so let's get into the story itself so like I said so this is a Texas town it's called Carthage it's in
East Texas it's very very close to Louisiana border it's very small town it's completely flat you can look up
Google images of it it is just like this small Texas town it's what it
reminds me of the town in Napoleon Dynamite it reminds me of all the little
cities that um that Anton shager from no country
from old men visited yeah it has that kind of a feel to it I see so small Tas
town it's a very little te small Texas town like the people there are just exactly what you would expect is predominantly white it's lower middle
class uh and that's generally like the the person types these people just go to church they go to church they go to
local Diner they just live simple lives I'll put it that way what's interesting
is for some reason that I couldn't totally totally hone in on Carthage was just full of these like Rich one-off
individuals where these people made money in oil in Texas and then would relocate to Carthage to die basically
for some reason there's a bunch of those there that also Segways in a Marge in her story as well but getting into
Bernie Bernie himself was a funeral director in Carthage so he's a mortician
uh I actually hadn't thought about this before I started researching this story but if you're in a small town and you're a funeral director it's kind of like a
powerful position to have so it feels kind of like almost like a sheriff or a pastor because at some point nearly
every person in that town is going to have to interface with you in some way and you're going to have to solve a very
very complicated emotionally charged situation for them and so so you kind of
like get this kind of midest touch of everybody in town needing to know you
and liking you in large part and Bernie was exactly that he was beloved in
Carthage like absolutely beloved he was a happy guy take a look at his
pictures he just seems like somebody's just constantly smiling like he he does not have bad days rain does not fall on
him when he walks around that's how I see his pictures have you seen his are you looking I'm trying to find him in
real life what's his last name in real life t t i e d
e this is a silent portion of the a audio medium that we're using I see oh I
mean great casting great job everyone right yeah he's super yeah he's just a super likeable guy uh he was a community
guy he always was he was super involved in his church he was on on chire inquire
whatever you however You' phrase that uh and he also had a habit of going like above and beyond for his clients so he
had a habit of after the services for weeks and weeks and weeks onward
checking in on his clients who were usually old widows or widowers and just
making sure they're doing okay bringing them food and things like that he was just such a nice guy you know like I I don't I I'm
trying to I feel like I knew someone like this in high school and a part of me was always like ah what what are you
hiding why are you trying to be this nice like there's nothing there's got to be something behind those those gestures
yeah um so the article that I referenced for the story there was there's two of them one of them you already referenced
there's another another article I referenced well that one is called the bizarre story of Bernie teed and the
real murder case that inspired the movie Bernie by Neil patmore not a very creative title he could have probably
cut that in half but it is what it is uh and in that article it was said that he was widely regarded as the nicest man in
town Bernie was so that's one side of this equation this Angelic human who
just loves to serve his community and everybody loves to be around on the other side you have his former client
Marjorie Marge new Jen who met Bernie as he took care of her late husband's
funeral arrangements so like I said earlier marg's late husband was one of these
Uber Rich dudes and the oil industry who made a ton of money Marg was actually originally from Carthage and so whenever
they got into their Twilight years he decided hey let's go back to Carthage uh and settle down there they bought a huge
house like way too big for two elderly people who can barely walk 10 feet without falling down it is estimated
that his net worth that he bequeathed to Marge was somewhere in the range of $10 million give or take yeah he they I mean
they were like they bought a bank Taylor like that's the kind of money they owned the only
Bank in town that's the kind of money these people had yeah yeah that's money and that's power exactly influence power
all of it uh so contrasting her reputation to
Bernie's her reputation was the meanest woman in Carthage oh so Bernie
manages marg's husband's funeral and per usual starts following up with Mars This
was part of his routine just making sure that she's okay what's going on and in doing so he noticed that she has nobody
like he go to the house and there was just nobody it's just this woman sitting
alone in this giant house with nothing anything had a kid totally a strange
literally nobody liked her nobody wanted to be around her yeah that was her that was her General Vibe so she was
basically sat alone in this house and Bernie who by all accounts is this
incredibly empathetic human being just felt so bad for her and so he made a point to go out of his way to spend time
with her he'd go over there he'd hang out he they'd go out to dinner together and they started becoming kind of a
thing so they even go so far as to take like these International trips at this time Bernie would have been 39 and she
would have been 81 years old so she wasn't he wasn't in a relationship no by most accounts people
assumed he's gay people in Carthage assumed he's gay and um and I'm I'm
actually gonna go to a quote that was like great it was such it's most Texas quote calling someone gay you'll possibly ever hear but they would start
going on these trips together so they were becoming kind of like a thing and the article you quoted earlier is what
I'm going to quote here so that is called Midnight in the Garden of East Texas that's by a man named skip
hollandsworth who did all this research he did a fantastic job he was he like basically lived in Carthage to like get
the story out he would talk to people the town folks everything and um in in one of the diners he was at when people
brought up Bernie and the idea of him dating a woman somebody said this a quote you can tell he's never been deer
hunting in his life end quote like that's the way that get it he said that
they all thought he was gay but nobody cared I mean everybody makes Sexes out to be this like Prejudice place like most nobody gives a [ __ ] Texas is
beautiful because nobody cares what you do you just do your own thing and nobody BS you and nobody cared that he was they thought he was gay they were like he's
gay it is what it is he's a nice guy it doesn't matter so at some point uh
during this friendship relationship whatever you want to call it Bernie to his credit never said they dated but
everybody was like it's weird they sleep in the same room and are always together so who knows what's happening Bernie
quit his job to basically just manage Mar's business account uh business become her business manager basically
because she had all these different interests right like she had the stock port and she owned a bank and she all this bills had to be paid stuff had to
be taken care of she eventually made Bernie the sole beneficiary to her will
and instructed Bernie that upon her death her family was not to get a dime of her
inheritance and the way Wills are done you can't manipulate someone into doing
this you there there's there's got to be attestation there's got to be Witnesses there's questions around your competency
there arest like Bernie didn't force her to do this she just did it on her own win because this is the only person she
had in her life this relationship with Bernie and Marge just like every other relationship Marge seems to have with
another human turned abusive Bernie would later state that quote she was
just so controlling she felt like she could own me and I guess to some degree she did end quote you see this in the
movie there's a great scene in the movie where there's like an armadillo or a posum in the backyard and she's like
kill it kill it it's going to come in the house and she uh gives a gun to Bernie and Bernie just can't bring
himself to hurt it and she's just like bantering him and saying what a wuss he is like that's probably the exact vibe
that this woman had with him she sounds awful yeah yeah so yeah so three years
after this Arrangement started bony would eventually shoot and kill Marge at
her home in the driveway shooting her in the back with a gun like one of her guns
a 22 and he would take her body and wrap it up in sheets put it at the bottom of a
deep freeze a freezer and then pour put food on top of it to make it seem like there's something going on when this
event took place Bernie had full control of marg's finances so he had um Power of
Attorney not only did he get the inheritance I mean he wouldn't get the inheritance now anyways cuz at this
point nobody knows she's dead so there's no will to be executed on but but he had
full power of attorney so he could write checks anyways he could withdraw money could do whatever he wanted with her bank account so with the knowledge that
she's dead and that he now has access to these millions and millions of dollars Bernie starts basically just being a
philanthropist it is estimated that he distributed somewhere around $2 million
of margin's money through various different philanthropic Endeavors he
would pay People's College tuitions he would offer scholarships to people he would buy people cars who needed
Vehicles he would um donate to the church and like he all there was one
story that um I forgot what it was something it was
something about I remember there was a there was a trophy store in town so this this town this store just made trophies
and one year it was going to shut down because there was not that much business
obv VI L and the team the the girls team or something had just won some
basketball or softball thing and he was like he paid the store to stay open for
the next like year so that they would have the time to make trophies for this
team he thought it was bad that the team won and they didn't get a trophy he was just he was just a sweet guy right he
just such a sweet thoughtful guy there was definitely a trophy store in my town growing up yeah yeah I mean I don't
recall having one but never won a trophy so it doesn't matter um so all the while
while this is going on he's telling people that Marge was either sick or that she was out of town on a trip or
doing something for nine months and for the most part nobody cared don't think
no one cared yeah because on the one hand Bernie's awesome he was awesome anyways now he's awesome because he's
awesome just giving everybody money second March sucks so who cares if she's not around nobody cared
so everybody wins basically so it is worth noting that
amidst all this stuff that's going on there's also like weird litigation happening amongst margin her family
because the husband divested everybody but Marge of his inheritance Marge is
making claims and has in fact divested everybody of the rest of that inheritance and so all these people are
jockeying to understand it's kind of like when and Nicole Smith's husband died and then all the entire family just
poured in and started suing everybody saying like who's GNA get the money who should get what that's basically what happened here yeah so despite the fact
that nobody actually gave a [ __ ] about marg's well-being or what's going on with her they cared to the extent that
she was part of litigation that had to be addressed as it related to the money and the will so her death had obvious
Financial impacts and so they needed to stay on top of her not because they gave a [ __ ] about her wellbeing because they
needed to know what to do next with the litigation so yeah yeah her estranged son Rod nent he lived in Amaro
apparently he was successful he was he's a pathologist a doctor he has a family there doing his own thing uh and he
obviously given that he's an amarillo and he's totally a stranger from his mom has no Insight in what berne's doing in
Carthage so at the 9month Mark nobody no lawyers no family
nobody's heard of Marge and Rod decides to go to Carthage to be
like what's going on let's go to the house and figure out what's going on so he goes with his daughter to Carthage they let themselves in they
walk around the house no sign of life nothing going on it's worth noting Bernie had his own house so he wasn't
there right I was gonna ask did he live there he didn't okay he didn't Marge bought him a house like gave him or gave
him a zero interest loan to buy the house but then she died so he just bought the house um eventually they
would uncover her body in the free and obviously Rod reported this to the
police the police immediately showed up and the first person they questioned was Bernie for sure Bernie that did this
yeah so he he immediately admitted to killing I mean you look at this guy and
like he's not like a Savage he's not a guy you who's going to like have to get worked over with a good cop bad cop
routine he's a soft guy right he just totally so he immediately confesses killing her I'm going to go into my
usual legal procedure mode here for a minute there's a pre-trial concept known as change of venue which just means
moving a trial away from where the events that are subject to that trial took place to ensure a fair trial yeah
like everyone knows you you can't right but but but no so this is interesting this is diff this is different than what
you're perceiving there usually the reason to do this is because the defendant could not be afforded a fair
trial in that area because it's presumed that everybody would hate them so for example Timothy McVey wasn't tried in
Oklahoma City like none of these guys get tried the place do the ACT yeah you couldn't he would have been like well he
died anyway but it would have been faster had been in Oklahoma City yeah
yeah I mean he would he would they would have [ __ ] dragged him out of the courthouse and lynched him in the streets like I mean it would have been terrible well not terrible that probably
would should have been a good thing yeah it would been awesome yeah yeah so in this case the prosecution because
usually it's so interesting because it's always the defendants that ask for change of venue because they're the ones
who are trying to ensure a fair trial yeah and here the proc ution as the change of any because they're trying to get a fair trop and they asked it
because they're like everybody [ __ ] loves Bernie and hates March so there's no chance that this jury pool is gonna
convict this guy of this crime oh my God and so and so that's what they end up doing so it's called jury nullification
it's when the jury basically says like we know you did it we don't care so it happens like every now and then it
happens but uh it's rare but in this case they're like that's going to happen so Bernie was ultimately found
guilty of first-degree murder and he was sentenced to life in prison and this happened in 1998 that's when he got
sentenced to life in prison it was obviously not a good experience for
Bernie he was immediately attacked by his fellow inmates because he's in there
for first-degree murder you're in there with like cartel guys you're in there with like ms3 gang members and you see
Bernie this chubby guy with this beard who like wants to sing in the choir and praise Jesus all day like walking in
like of course he's a mark of course you're going to take advantage of that so he he regardless of his horrible
experience at the onset of being in prison he eventually did find his n he's just one of those guys who just fits into he's like water he fits in any
container you put him in so he became a pillar of the prison Community essentially so he was regarded as a
model prisoner he was part of the prison choir because of course he was he would
teach Health classes to inmates and again everybody who knew him loved
him the guards loved him the inmates loved him he was just a fantastic guy all around fast forward 13 years to
2011 okay the movie Bernie comes out and there's an Austin based lawyer named
Jody Cole who saw the movie and reached out to Richard link later to learn more
about the case because Richard and um the skip skip hollinsworth they they worked on the screenplay together and
and they were they had a ton of background information on this case she would learn a detail about Bernie's life
that we don't know for sure is true or not but was corroborated through like
Bernie never talked about it but it was corroborated through journals that were found of his which is he was sexually
abused as a child by his uncle So based on this and based on some
of the research that jod Cole ended up doing on what happens to someone when they're sexually molested in a young age
they she asserted in an appeal she filed on behalf of Bernie that because of the
sexual abuse and because Marge was abusive to him as well he basically went
into this disassociative state which basically just means like you're just distant right like you just don't you're not really all the way
present to what's going on and because of that that's the cause of this this murder and you can't put all the blame
on on Bernie for it so the judge did buy this and did
state that if I had known that I probably would not have sentenced him to the extent that I sentenced him at the
time and a new trial was set not to determine guilt because he was obviously
guilty he confess to it it was set to determine the sentencing and to reud the
sentencing in interim the judge released Bernie on bail on the condition that he
lived with Richard linkl at his Austin home which he did which yeah they're
like like you're under this guy's Ward as long as you're under this guy's Ward will allow you to be released basically
that's so weird it's one of those things I mean Richard linklater is kind of like an Austin institution the way like Willie Nelson is right it's like it's
like we trust him so that's why you can be released to him so he lived with
Richard link later uh from 2014 till 2016 so at the
resentencing hearing which then took place in 16 marg's son testified about
how sweet and loving a mother she was and you know so much of that just like
smacks me of like we just a grandis the dead you know like yeah yeah when someone's dead it's like it's the whole
don't speak ill of the Dead um but it's like like nobody felt that way like like
you didn't feel that way you didn't talk to your mom for nine months totally lost like so again like the entire family was
a strange from her she voluntarily removed her kids from the will and it
was clear that like there was not a cohesive thing going on between the family it's not like they were going be friends no yeah what's funny is during
the trial the county commissioner for Carthage who knew Marge like really really well said Marge actually told him
specifically quote I'll spend every dime of my money before I leave it to my family she [ __ ] hated her so funny
and these guys were showing up in courts like she was a she was a loving mother and she was this and that well I mean
they want her money and they should I don't know it doesn't sound like there's a good reason for them not to have it just that she was a [ __ ] well they here
okay so here's the thing in this situation no nobody gets the money so the way the way it works oh because it
went to Bernie and he's in jail it was yeah so there's several things going on one is What's called the Slayer statutes
and the other one is called this cheating to the state so a Slayer statute says that you C A person who kills another person cannot become the
beneficiary of the person's inheritance that SS Fair which means it skips Bernie
and goes to the state which is called is cheating to the state so like the state ends up getting that money so none of it ends up going to the family anyways so
that's where that's where that ended up I'm I'm I'm sure the son sued the state
to figure out like how he can get his hands on the money but yeah as I think he should yeah yeah yeah [ __ ] awful
so marg's sister is a woman named Merill rhods and she was also at the resentencing hearing for burn
and she goes quote I was always afraid of her I never forgot that she was my
sister I always loved her as a sister actually even when she did ugly things and she did end quote and then her son
who's marg's nephew said the portrayal of her aunt by Shirley mlan in the movie was completely accurate and recounted
all the abuse she would hurl his way it's like I don't know I don't buy Rod's perception that like my mom his mom was
like a loving woman it's like like I don't know smells like a duck sounds like a duck you know yeah
so I don't know how I feel about this but like ultimately Bernie didn't get much better of a sentence he ended up
receiving 99 years but he became eligible for parole so he's eligible for parole in about six years from now so in
2029 he's going to be eligible at that time he'll be 71 years old and we'll see
what happens but so we got like a weird two years out yeah yeah he got two years out yeah but
it was it was you should read that article the I mean at least read the first half of it because there's a lot of stuff that I didn't put in into this
that that I read in there which was this the diner talk the diner talk around Carthage where you have like the the
sheriff of the city you have the prosecution who were like this guy killed an 81y old woman and all these
people are coming up to him in the diner saying go easy on Barney he's a good guy like he's just like what is going like this dis I used disassociative State
like what is happening like why they know like what the trigger was like what happened they don't know we don't know
what what the trigger was at least I didn't read I didn't understand what the trigger was presumably it was just like abuse just like yelling and screaming
and being being a total bee and him just losing and like whatever I'm just going to kill you I can't take this but was interesting is like they asked Bernie
they're like why didn't you just like get rid of her body because the prosecution did state that if they hadn't found the body they never would
have been able to charge him with anything and um and he was like his his
quote on this is because everybody deserves a good funeral and know I was
wondering what his mortician is because I feel like as a mortician you'd be really good hiding a body but also maybe you have like that um yeah like just
like that that like loyalty to giving someone a bury all the way that you've done it for so long that's so interesting because yeah you figure like
if anyone would know how to do it right yeah I mean I thought that his move was pretty good of just stuff in the body in
a freezer like then it's not going to rot and you know who goes digging in the bottom of freezers besides rod um I know
it's it's interesting that they found her in there I feel like for the most part you'd be like I don't know yeah
because you got to wonder well they wanted her well they wanted to like deal with it like if she's dead then they can work on her inheritance did they know
that it was going to Bernie I don't think they knew that no no the the people were strange they
didn't have any communication and the will and because nobody knew she was dead the will was never executed on so they wouldn't have known that anything
had gone anywhere any of the money had transition from one account to the other right so it's a interesting story The
the movie is phenomenal like it's not a sad movie it's it's fun I really really really did like it uhin worth watch
she's awesome and she plays such a mean woman she's so good like she's so freaking good in um Ste Magnolia it's
like unbelievable and that was like 30 40 years ago um I know that you're a
Texas person um but I also just want to say again that people should not have
guns you know I just like left and not killed her like what would he have strangled her
you think no he's too soft he's too soft for that yeah there
was somebody did his sister did bring up like why didn't she just leave and it was something about like she just like
she just controls everything because at that point she was everything to him she was his finances like she bought his
house like everything wrapped up in her which is like super manipulative and
like that's something that like people who are like that they do is make you really dependent on them and then they abuse you that's what an abuser does
it's like their spouse you know yeah they'll be like you can't leave you don't have a job you don't have any
skills you know whatever like yeah it's interesting because it's actually the exact same story we keep telling
ourselves over and over again except it's reverse it is always it's usually older man younger girl richer man poor
girl in this case it's the exact opposite like super a feminine
docile dude against like an old Rich lady who's just like like super Alpha
like over the top um and this how it ended but yeah your your question about
the guns is interesting I guess if he didn't have access to he probably would have
just tried to leave her or something I don't know yeah but anyways uh that's
that's the story and like red flag wise I I don't know because I don't know if I feel bad that he killed her because it
feels like she deserves to die well I feel like I feel like it's a red flag that like I don't know those
relationships ever work out well you know where like someone is like depending on you to like do stuff for
them and they're like paying you but they're like oh we're just friends I'm going to like give you some money but then like it always turns weird you know
that you're like you can't take like a $200,000 interest free loan from a friend and remain in the same level you
know yeah they'll always have that to hold against you in like whatever way yeah so are we sad that Marge is dead no
of course not okay nobody giv sh she'd be dead anyway yeah [ __ ] her yeah okay good good that was uh that was
very that was that was probably the mo least gr gross story I've told and probably most heartwarming it wasn't
very gross I I I will watch this movie Jack we I haven't we've been watching him or they just went to see uh Mario
Brothers and Jack Black plays uh Bowser oh nice I want to see that movie too yeah it's cute did you go too no they
went while I was gone but they keep playing the Peaches song Because Bowser's like in love with peaches and he plays the song but peaches and I know
they love it they they keep playing it nice nice so in your case we're drinking holy
water yeah just like pretend to [Music]