In the heart of New Orleans' French Quarter, a mansion stood as a symbol of wealth and prestige—until its horrifying secrets were exposed. Madame Delphine LaLaurie was a socialite, a woman of influence, and a monster lurking behind the grandeur. What truly happened inside her infamous home? Was she a sadistic torturer, or has history twisted her tale into something even darker? Join us as we unravel the gruesome truth, the legends, and the unanswered questions surrounding one of America's most infamous women. 🔪 History, horror, and hauntings collide in this chilling episode! 🔪
In the heart of New Orleans' French Quarter, a mansion stood as a symbol of wealth and prestige—until its horrifying secrets were exposed. Madame Delphine LaLaurie was a socialite, a woman of influence, and a monster lurking behind the grandeur. What truly happened inside her infamous home? Was she a sadistic torturer, or has history twisted her tale into something even darker?
Join us as we unravel the gruesome truth, the legends, and the unanswered questions surrounding one of America's most infamous women.
🔪 History, horror, and hauntings collide in this chilling episode! 🔪
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Welcome to Doom to Fail, the podcast that brings you two amazing stories weekly
>> Taylor: In the matter of the people of the State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA097.
>> Farz: And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. And we are back live and recording. Welcome to Doom to Fail, the podcast that brings you two amazing stories twice a week, every week for the past two and a half years. And we will continue on for a long time to go. I'm joined here by Taylor. And I'm Forrest. Hi, Taylor.
>> Taylor: Wow, that really works.
>> Farz: Threw you for a loop, didn't I?
>> Taylor: You really woke yourself up. Yeah. We'll keep doing this until the world ends, which could be tomorrow. I don't f****** know.
>> Farz: We don't know.
>> Taylor: Why not? Keep doing it. Yeah. So an Instagram post where a guy was, like, the day before the last day on Earth, and it was like, someone just, like, going to work, he's like, what are you gonna do? You never know what's gonna happen.
>> Farz: We have. Taylor, I have a lot of, like, fun commentary to tell you that I can't be recorded talking about, but I'll share with you later on. But, yeah, we are here and the world has continued. So we're going to go ahead and tell that. I leave anything off of my introduction that I should have said that now that you know.
>> Taylor: No, I think that's great. Great.
Taylor: March kicks off Women's History Month with a fun Louisiana story
>> Farz: All right, so we'll go ahead and dive in. I am going to be today's storyteller, and I know that's going to disappoint a lot of our listeners, but. No, but I have a really fun one. So I kicked off March with Women's History Month, covering women who've done horrible things throughout history. I did Elizabeth Bathory, I did Irma Gressa. And then I. Well, before Magressa, I took a detour and forgot that I was doing this and did a story about Hachi, the beloved dog that was loyal to his master. But now I'm back on women, and I'm going to go across the pond from Europe into the United States. Taylor, I learned Louisiana has, like, a lot of crazy history. Like, it is, like, this story. A lot of it intersects with, like, the history of, like, Louisiana, because I'm going to cover a woman in Louisiana named Delphine Lalori, which I know you've heard of. Right. I was going to get to this at the very end, but I'll tell you now, did you know that Nicholas Cage bought her house and then it went to foreclosure?
>> Taylor: Yes.
>> Farz: He made A lot of bad moves, huh?
>> Taylor: I feel like every other day he has a castle that goes into foreclosure or something or has to like return a dinosaur skull to a museum or something.
>> Farz: Wild. Wild. Okay, I'm going to start off by saying that yes, this is a Louisiana story. It is very witchy, it's very true crime and macabre ish, which I think goes hand in hand with New Orleans. I. When I learned that the was in the midnight in the garden of good and Evil, when I learned that was a true story, I was like, I was, I was like, that's crazy. I can't believe that's like a real. It sounds so fake, like somebody, somebody had to made it up. But no, it's real. So, yeah, yeah, very fun because it's very Louisiana thing is very. In this story too. It's very combined with like voodoo, occultism, witchiness, corruption, jazz, the nightlife. It's like a fun all around true crime story. And Madame Lalori, who we're going to be referring to here, she kind of combined them all into the story. So I'm going to get into who she is, how she grew up, what was going on in the time that she grew up, what she did, and then what the outcome of that has been. So Madame Lalori was born Marie Delphine McCarty in 1787. Her family is yet again another validation of my theory that I keep telling you, which is like, if you were here in America early enough, you could become rich and successful, like there was nobody here. You just do what you wanted.
>> Taylor: Her family, I mean, there were people here. We just killed them.
>> Farz: That's. Yeah, okay, fair, fair.
>> Taylor: But if you don't care, but if you don't care about that, if you.
>> Farz: Don'T care about that, then yes, if.
>> Taylor: You'Re like, there are all this stuff, I can steal some free stuff. Yep.
>> Farz: Yeah. So her grandfather is the one that came over from Ireland and settled the family in the Spanish controlled region of Louisiana that is now known as New Orleans. So one generation after the grandfather migrates over here. Madame Lalori's uncle by marriage is a guy named Esteban Rodriguez Miro, who is the governor of this region, this territory. But again, actually, you know what, Taylor? I'm kind of going back now because if I tell you I'm the governor of like New Orleans in like the late 1700s, like, who gives a s***? Like it's nothing, like it's like it's just swampland, you know, so maybe, maybe like you're successful, but like, not in a way that you'd really care to be.
>> Taylor: Well, I think the people. I mean, you could probably arrest people.
>> Farz: That's fun.
>> Taylor: And, like, demand taxes.
>> Farz: That's true. Yeah.
>> Taylor: It's not nothing I should have thought of that.
>> Farz: Should call.
>> Taylor: You can be governor of your house, you know.
>> Farz: Yeah. That's why we're trying to come with names for my. My retreat house.
>> Taylor: It could be the governor's mansion.
>> Farz: I love it. That just fars lives in.
>> Taylor: You're not. You're not a governor. It's not a mansion, but it's perfectly themed.
Spain, France, and to whatever extent the US Is relevant in the story
>> Farz: So back at this time period, this area of the. The un, I don't know what you call it, whatever. This territory is controlled by the Spanish, and it's intermittently controlled by the French, and there's a huge war that breaks out. It's so weird because, like, again, this is, like, now, obviously United States. Like, the US had nothing to do with this. Like, it was literally just Napoleon and the Spanish kings fighting over the space right next to Texas.
>> Taylor: Right. But they'd also, like, never been there, you know, Remember, Napoleon just, like, sells it.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: I was like, gap is out of my portfolio.
>> Farz: I'm gonna. Exactly. I'm gonna actually get into why that happened too.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Like I said, the history is really complex. It gets handed back and forth between Spain and France and Spain and France, yada, yada, yada. And during Madame Lalori's. I'll just call it Delphine. Delphine's easier. During Delphine's childhood, slavery was rampant, obviously. So Spain, France, and to whatever extent the US Is relevant in the story at all, they all permitted slavery, and there was, like, different distinctions on how it was done. So in Spain, slavery was probably better practiced by Spanish people than the rest, because at least with Spain, you could buy your way to freedom, whereas with France and the U.S. like, they were trying to ramp up, like, practices and, like, cruelty was kind of, like, more embedded within the slave. The slave trade. And then also something unique that was going on in this part of the country was unlike the rest of the slave trade, where it was usually, like, people coming over from Africa to the transatlantic slave trade. These folks are coming over from the Caribbean. That's. That's where most of it was happening. And so culturally, there was, like, this complete separation between, like, U.S. slave trade versus, like, what was going on in Louisiana.
Several things were happening around this time when Delphine was born
Several things were happening around this time when Delphine was, like, a child to kind of, like, help tell a story of how she could become the person she became, essentially. So you have the Haitian revolution. So I did not know this, but apparently. Which I should have known, but, like, apparently France owned Haiti. They went over there. Like, they. This is crazy. They went over there and they took control of it and they enslaved the native people, which is like. Is that insane? And, like, that's a big reason why New Orleans developed the way that it did, because they were supplying slaves back and forth between New Orleans. Because New Orleans was, like, at certain points, owned by France and so was Haiti.
>> Taylor: Mm.
>> Farz: But anyways, they had a revolution and revolted against the French. Kicked them out of their country. And I was like, a big to do about, like, oh, wow, there can be successful slave revolts. Like, we didn't.
>> Taylor: Yeah, it was a slave revolt.
>> Farz: That's.
>> Taylor: Yeah, that's the important part. Yeah.
>> Farz: And then you have the media conspiracy. Conspiracy, which was a planned revolt of slaves in Louisiana that was uncovered, stopped. A bunch of people got executed as a result of that. You have the point, Coupe. Conspiracy that was enslaved people in Louisiana who plotted to kill our masters and flee to then Spanish controlled Florida. And. And they got figured out and executed as well at the same time. Around that, you had the German coast uprising, which was the largest slave revolt in US history. About 500 revolted and were burning and killing plantation owners until the US Military was the one that actually suppressed that and killed a ton of them as. As retribution. But I'm saying all this because it, like, planted the seeds within the minds of, like, rich white people that, oh, this can happen, right? When it happens, it's, like, bad for us.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Wait, but I wouldn't have any, you know, I wouldn't have any money. You see, if I paid. If I paid them, then I would have less money. So you see my problem.
>> Farz: Yeah, exactly. That was. So they had a really twisted logic is related to this, obviously, because the. The next piece of this is the reason why. Again, I don't know how to say this, like, sounding tone deaf, but, like, there was incentive structures for slave owners to not be absolute shitheads to their slaves because of these things that were going on.
>> Taylor: Right. Not because they didn't.
>> Farz: Not because they thought they were human, but because they thought that if they treated them bad enough, like, long enough, they could revolt and this could potentially happen to them.
>> Taylor: Right.
>> Farz: So as a result of that, there was like a weird level of like, in policing of the group of the rich white people of like, no, no, you can't do what you do, because if your people revolt, then my people hear about it. They're going to revolt against me, and then I would get killed.
>> Taylor: And then we're not going to have any money.
>> Farz: Nobody have any money. Do you understand?
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: So, like I said, like, the reason Napoleon sold Louisiana to the United States was because that Haitian revolt, it was really the entire impetus for it.
Delphine married three times before building her famous New Orleans mansion
So going back to Delphine. So she had. She married three times. So her first husband, kind of irrelevant. It's kind guy. He. He was some regent, governor or some. Back then, he was traveling from New Orleans to Madrid when Delphine was pregnant with their child. And he died in route. It was like he was in Havana, he got sick, he died. Nothing suspicious there. This is just like how people died back then.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: About four years later. She was also really young. She was 13 when she first got married. Oh, that was like, crazy. Like, it's like even. I know it was a long time ago, but it's like, get crazy.
>> Taylor: I know.
>> Farz: So four years later, after the death of that husband, she married a second time. And this guy was named Jean Blank, who would go on and have four more kids with him before he died eight years later in 1816. Then she made her third husband, which sounds like the one that was like, the most toxic and the one that, like, it's something. They hate each other almost instantly. They got married in 1825, and she basically created like a whole separate universe for herself. She went and bought this property at 1140 Royal street, which is, for a brief period of time, Nicholas Cage's property. Weird, Weird thing to say out loud. And she constructed her mansion there, which is like a separate thing. And then eventually, like, the. The feeling would all move in, but she had her own separate space as well.
>> Taylor: God, I just feel like it used to be so much easier to get construction done. Like, how do you do that?
>> Farz: Slavery.
>> Taylor: And I guess. I guess, yes, that makes sense. But I feel like there's always, like, stories of. Even in, like, after slavery ended, things that are like, oh, we just added rooms to our farmhouse.
>> Farz: I'm like, how about this? Like, again, anybody who cares about this stuff, listen to Ezra Klein and he will articulate this down to the T. It's like, regulations are why we cannot build anything anymore.
>> Taylor: It's so hard.
>> Farz: What was it? He was talking about how, like, Josh Shapiro suspended 8,000 different rules on how you should construct public works when the bridge collapsed in Pittsburgh. And it was like, yeah, they were up and running in, like, six weeks. Like, it was. There's a. There's not a problem of, like, engineering. It's a problem of regulation. Anyways, that's a side story. The mansion that she built here at 1140 Royal street is called the Lorry Mansion, which is still there to this day, although in a different form. Floor plans for the original mansion don't exist. They were never established. What we know roughly is that the mansion itself was about 10,000 square feet in size and it had slave quarters as well. So it had a separate unit that was slave quarters. The first floor was entertaining area. So this was where you would typically receive guests. You had a ballroom, a formal parlor, parlor with dining area. And that's kind of like what the first floor was that was like for guests only essentially. Second floor was living quarters for the family bedrooms, things like that. And the third floor was where slaves were being housed. Then you had a separate slaves quarter which is, was behind the mansion and it was a two story separate building. And that's where the nightmare stuff that we'll be discussing took place.
>> Taylor: So now if I google it and look at it, it's like on the corner of a city block. Was it always like that?
>> Farz: So Royal Lane was, was like one of the original main streets of New Orleans. But like obviously the texture of the city looked different, right, because like there was very, very few people there, but it was always in the center of the city. Yeah.
>> Taylor: Cool.
>> Farz: So her public treatment of slaves was considered normal at the time. She was referred to as being very polite with slaves and gave the appearance of at least caring about their health and well being. That was perceived as being overcompensation because anyone who observed Lalori's or Delphine's slaves would comment that their condition was dramatically worse and more haggard than other slaves in the area. And again, like I said like normally from like a moralistic perspective, nobody cared. Do whatever you want. The problem was don't be so bad that your people cause issues for us, you know, so people cared to that extent. And a neighbor did report at one point seeing what they thought was somewhere around between 8 to 12 year old enslaved girl jump from the roof of the mansion to her suicide later on. It was assumed that after everything was discovered, it was assumed that that happened because of a whipping that she thought she was going to endure. So she would rather just commit suicide at 8 years old. It's crazy. Because of that situation that was reported by a neighbor, investigators did start looking into what Delphine was doing at the house. They did find evidence of cruelty. And as part of her punishment, eight of her slaves were forfeited back to the state eventually because she's connected to like the government. She was able to buy back those slaves, so they ended up going back to her anyways. There were stories that she would chain the. The cooks, the enslaved cooks in the kitchen. And in fact, one such cook would be the reason why investigators would ultimately discover what she was doing there. Because on April 10, 1834, the mansion went up in flames. It started in the kitchen when an enslaved cook, a 70 year old woman who was chained to the stove by her ankle. She was like, I would rather die in a fire and commit suicide here than endure what happens when you were taken to the uppermost rooms of the slave quarters. So she lit a fire. People saw it, bystanders would show up and they again, this. It's so weird because it's like, it's like kind a kindness, but it's done for like selfish reasons. They were trying to get into the slave quarters to free any slaves that were in there or shackled so that they wouldn't be harmed. So they go to this other house that's like behind the main house, and they asked Delphine for access to it and she refuses to give them the key. And so they're like, whatever, we're just going to break the door down. So they break the door down and they go inside and they basically discover like the most creative haunted house decor like in history. Yeah. There were seven people there in various stages of death or torture.
They found a woman who had been sewn shut with human waste
They found a woman who. This is so gross. They found a woman whose mouth had been sewn shut. And once they cut the stitches open, they discovered that her mouth was filled with human waste.
>> Taylor: Oh, God.
>> Farz: Yeah. There was a man who had his limbs broken and then reset to heal backwards. They call him the grab man. Is that crazy? They found a woman who was strapped down and had strips of skin ripped off of her, suggesting that she'd been consistently flayed over time, like a long period of time. One woman, she was somehow alive. Her stomach was cut open and her intestines were wrapped around her waist.
>> Taylor: Was she alive?
>> Farz: Yeah, briefly. She died very soon after they found her.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: And then several others were found chained to the wall. And they had iron collars with spikes aimed inwards on their neck.
>> Taylor: Oh my God.
>> Farz: Yeah. So to the credit of the people at the time when the cruelty was discovered, the citizenry basically just rioted and started destroying the mansion. They destroyed all the furniture inside, set fire to it. People questioned her. They didn't question Delphine. Her presence during all this is kind of like, like in question. Like we don't know exactly what happened, but her husband's perspective on this was like, why are you inquiring? Like, why. How dare you ask me how I treat my property. Like, you know, it's my stuff. Basically, what he was saying. So they destroy the mansion. They set fire to it. They destroy everything inside of it. They. They take the slaves and they transfer them to the local jail. And the reason that they wanted to do that was because they wanted people to see the cruelty. But I was like, that's kind of cruel, too. Like, don't drop.
>> Taylor: They're not going to free them, right?
>> Farz: No, they're not going to. Don't they have hospitals? I mean, I don't.
>> Taylor: I don't know.
>> Farz: Maybe they just don't care. They probably don't care.
>> Taylor: Did they have a doctor beat them at the prison?
>> Farz: I don't know.
>> Taylor: I don't know.
>> Farz: Yeah. But apparently 4,000 people went in and out of the jail just to see what was going on there.
>> Taylor: Of course they did.
>> Farz: Yeah, that. That also, it's interesting because it kind of dovetails the. The Civil War where, like, the uprisings, the cruelty is just like. It's just all kind of ramping up. And.
>> Taylor: And what year. What year? What year was it?
>> Farz: Like 18 for 1834.
>> Taylor: Okay.
>> Farz: Yeah. I mean, we're still ways off, but it's like, so, like, it's. Things are. Things are ramping up.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Like I said, we don't know after this whole key situation happened with the slave quarters what Delphine was doing or wasn't doing, but we know that once she saw the mob kind of tearing apart her house, her. The two kids that were living with her and her mother, who was also living with her, they fled from New Orleans to Millbill, Alabama, and then went to Paris, France, from there. And that's where she lives. She kept wanting to come back to New Orleans, her home. She wanted to come back to. To where it was, but her family was like, no, you definitely cannot go back there. They're going to repeat limb from limb.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: She ended up living in Paris until the age of 62. She died in 1849. And the record keeping around how she died is sparse. Some stories I read said that she died on a wild boar hunting accident, but we don't know exactly how she died. And then four years after this mob had destroyed and burnt the. The mansion to the ground, the property that it sat on was acquired by a private citizen and rebuilt.
>> Taylor: So, like, he rebuilt it, but it's. So the one that you can visit now. Isn't the one that she lived in.
>> Farz: No, no. I mean, I'm sure, like, the foundation is, and, like, maybe some studs are, but, like, area.
>> Taylor: But, like.
>> Farz: Okay, yeah, yeah. And then Nicholas. In 2007, Nicholas Cage bought it and then later lost its foreclosure. But that's it. That's the Delphine Laurie of New Orleans. One of the worst people to ever live and a cruel, mysterious piece of s***.
>> Taylor: Are they sure it was her? Like, just her, or was it, like, other people helping her?
>> Farz: It's all speculation, like I said.
Rumors abound about the mysterious woman who committed suicide in Chicago mansion
I mean, we're talking about a part of the country that wasn't a part of the country.
>> Taylor: Right.
>> Farz: Happened. And then the countries that it was a part of were fighting a war.
>> Taylor: Right.
>> Farz: The record keeping isn't amazing on this. The assumptions are that, yes, it was. It was her that did it. One of the stories had to do with the girl that jumped from the rooftop. Again, it's all rumors. I happen to think that, like, rumors have some grains of truth in them. And so part of the rumor was that that girl, the servant girl, was combing her hair, and she caught on. She caught her hair on a knot, and then she got p***** that she, like, caught it on the knot and then turned around and started whipping her. And that's what caused her, like, run out of the room and jump out of the roof.
>> Taylor: Oh, my God.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: It's terrible.
>> Farz: Yeah. There was some. Later records would show that in the four years before the fire, 12 people died at the mansion, the funeral home. They accepted 12 bodies that came from the mansion. And so if it wasn't her, I mean, who. Who would it be?
>> Taylor: I don't know. That's what I'm asking. Like, is it, like, what's her husband doing?
>> Farz: The husband sounds. She filed for separation almost immediately after they got married. The husband was like. So they had a home together. She built this separately. It was like an HH home situation. She was like her hangout crib. To be separate from where she, like, you know, her husband was. Yeah. She almost immediately filed for separation from the third husband.
>> Taylor: Yeah. H.H. holmes seemed to be able to find contractors really easily.
>> Farz: No regulations. I'm telling you, nobody cared. Chicago was just being built when H.H. holmes was operational. Nobody had laws. I know, I know.
>> Taylor: The. The creepy part in the beginning of A Dove in the White City, talking about how Chicagoland was, like, full of neighborhoods that weren't built yet, but they said. But they had street lights, so it was like. Yeah, so it was, like, creepy streets that, like, are ready for houses, but they weren't. They weren't built yet. And it's creepy. It's meant to be. It's meant to be. That's scary. And, yeah, I. I'm sorry that I. Did you keep it in where I was like, oh, she sounds like Elizabeth Bathory. Did you keep that in that episode? Do you remember where. When I said, oh, Elizabeth Bathory sounds like Madame Lowry.
>> Farz: You did. You did. Yeah, I kept that in. Yeah, yeah.
>> Taylor: Because. Yeah, I think it's very. It's very similar to be like, I'm like, this mysterious woman in a mansion killing people. I know when Kathy Bates played her in American Horror Story, she definitely was like, you know, using baby's blood to stay young and stuff like that.
>> Farz: Did you see that?
>> Taylor: The horse Ray.
>> Farz: Coven. You saw Coven, right? Yeah. Because that was referenced a lot with. With Delphine was Kathy Bates.
>> Taylor: I can't remember why she, like. Oh, in it, they had her. When they. When she died. They had her dying in the, like, sack of her house when people were, like, burning it down. And then they buried her. And then some, like, witches in, like, voodoo witches cursed her to stay alive. And then when they found her in, like, the Now Times, she was in her coffin still alive.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: And then she became like. Like a servant at the witch's house.
>> Farz: I should watch. I watched again. I tried watching it, and I couldn't get through, like, two or three episodes. And you told me that, like, I think you said that was your favorite, wasn't it?
>> Taylor: My favorite is Roanoke.
>> Farz: But you know what? It's Roanoke. That's why I couldn't get through. I never tried watching Coven.
>> Taylor: Right.
Next season of American Horror Story should just be Lady Gaga doing music videos
It's good. It's good. Yeah. I was thinking today, some. I related to that, that the next season of American Horror Story should just be Lady Gaga doing music videos. I would watch. I'd watch.
>> Farz: It's not that scary.
>> Taylor: I think it'd be better. It is scary. Have you seen the abracadabra one?
>> Farz: No.
>> Taylor: Scary.
>> Farz: Hotel was amazing. Hotel was one of the best. That's my favorite, I think.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Cool.
>> Farz: Thank you. So I think I'm gonna pivot next week. And actually, I could probably. Do you know what? Actually, one of our listener, I call him out. Daniel did send me a very impressive story of a young girl during N*** occupation of some part of Europe who did, like, a lot of amazing stuff. And I might cover that next week.
>> Taylor: That sounds fun.
>> Farz: Yeah, I like N*** stuff.
>> Taylor: Well, you know, I don't know why they'd be thinking about it. Nobody knows. It's a mystery. Cool. Thank you.
There is a movie about Virginia Hall that looks terrible. It's called A Call to Spy
>> Farz: Do you have any. Do you have any fun letters?
>> Taylor: I don't, but I do have some stuff that I looked up since we last talked because I was closing out Virginia Hall's Wikipedia page, and there is a movie about her. It's called A Call to Spy and was made in 2009. And sorry, 2019 and the woman from Castles in it, but there's a couple other women. So even though I don't think this women really met in real life, in the movie, there's three women. And then. So I wanted to name them as well. There's a woman named Vera Atkins, who was also in the soe, who was a spy, who was cool. And then another woman, an Indian woman in the UK named Noor Inyat Khan, and she was an SOE as well, and was a spy, kind of with Virginia.
>> Farz: Oh, and they're all part of this movie?
>> Taylor: Yeah, I think the movie kind of put them together in a way that maybe they're not supposed to be put together, but Norton yet Khan, the Indian woman, was. She was killed at Dachau.
>> Farz: This movie made $790,000 at the box office.
>> Taylor: It looks pretty terrible.
>> Farz: I mean, like, I meant like a movie, like a Quentin Tarantino movie. Not like a movie where, like, the budget is less than, like, the meals for the actual.
>> Taylor: I agree. This is. This doesn't look very good. Like, even the poster doesn't. I don't. I'm not excited about it at all.
>> Farz: Yeah, it looks. Yeah, I created it.
>> Taylor: Everyone looks kind of terrible. And I don't know why, but whatever. So there is one, but there should be a better one, even though I have not seen this one.
Since I've been born, how many bad things have happened
>> Farz: All right.
>> Taylor: And then I also, Ask ChatGPT. Okay. I went to ChatGPT the other day and I was like, since I've been born, how many bad things have happened? And it was like, so many bad things. You're fine. and so it was just really nice. So since I've been born in 1982, there. These are the economic crises and recessions in 1987. There was a Black Monday stock market crash, the dot com bubble burst in 2000. The Great Recession was in 2007, 2009, the COVID 19 recession is in 2020. And currently we're in an inflation crisis. So just wanted to. I don't know. That made me feel better. You know, we're always talking about. We're just living in times, and times are always pretty terrible.
>> Farz: I would say This I. Have you ever seen the movie Margin Call?
>> Taylor: You talked about it a lot.
>> Farz: Do I talk about it that much?
>> Taylor: Yeah. I feel like you're the only person I've ever brought it up ever. So that might be just once. That feels like a lot because zero people talked about it in any other part of my life.
>> Farz: There's. There's this scene with Jeremy Irons, and I'm not even a Jeremy Irons fan.
>> Taylor: I am a Jeremy Irons fan.
>> Farz: He is awesome in that movie, but he's only in it for, like, maybe, like, six minutes. And every six minutes of it is, like, worth watching because there's one point when he starts, like, going off on, like, all the financial crises that he's experienced. It was like, yeah, like, every, like, four to eight years, this happens. This is the way it is. It's like burning down the shrubbery, burning down the forest. Like, rebuild the trees or something. Like, it's. It is kind of interesting.
>> Taylor: Jeremy Irons is the bad guy in the third Die Hard, which is Die Hard with a vengeance I can't see.
>> Farz: As a bad guy. He'll always be Alfred to me.
>> Taylor: Really? I think he's always a bad guy. He's freaking Scar and Lion King.
>> Farz: Actually, you know what? Now that you said it, he was also kind of the bad guy in Margin Call because he caught. He's one of the reasons why the financial crisis happened. You know what? You're right. I'll take it back.
>> Taylor: Yeah. He just feels. He feels like also he was Ben.
>> Farz: Affleck's Alfred, which is, like, the worst one.
>> Taylor: I know I've said this before, but I tell you how. I have a Trivial Pursuit game board. And one of the questions is, which of these actors had not. Has not played Batman? And the answer was Ben Affleck. Because the person writing the card was like, who is the most ridiculous person to ever play Batman? And they put Ben Affleck in there. And then since that Trivial Pursuit was printed, Ben Affleck played Batman.
>> Farz: George Clooney and Val Kilmer. Kilmer were infinitely more ridiculous, but they.
>> Taylor: Were already in there. It was like, George Clooney, Val Kilmer, Michael Keaton, Ben Affleck. So that was. Those are like the four you could guess from. So the person was like, I'm going to put a fourth person in here who will never be cast as Batman. And they were so ridiculous.
>> Farz: Can you believe it? Fun times.
Daniel: Thank you everyone for listening to DMS. And thank you for following us on social media
>> Taylor: Cool.
>> Farz: On that note, Taylor, anything else sign.
>> Taylor: Off with I don't think so. Thank you, everyone. Please send us an email doom to fill pod gmail.com we'd love to hear from you if you have any ideas and find us on all social medias. And thank you for following us.
>> Farz: Daniel Keep sending me DMS on Instagram. Like your opinion. Your your topics are fun.
>> Taylor: Yeah, same to people who I'm talking to.
>> Farz: Anybody else? Anybody else?
>> Taylor: Really?
>> Farz: We actually do see them and read them.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Cool. Thanks Taylor. We'll go ahead and cut off.
>> Taylor: Cool.