Re-release of Episode 2 - part 1! Another terrible story - this time of the Turpin Family - ultra religions in some ways, wild in others. David and Louise Turpin kept their children locked in their house of horrors for years. We're talking absolute filth, starvation, torture -- just all-around awful things. Outwardly, they would dress the children the same and take them on vacations! It's weird! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com
Re-release of Episode 2 - part 1!
Another terrible story - this time of the Turpin Family - ultra religions in some ways, wild in others. David and Louise Turpin kept their children locked in their house of horrors for years. We're talking absolute filth, starvation, torture -- just all-around awful things. Outwardly, they would dress the children the same and take them on vacations!
It's weird!
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hi friends it's Taylor from Dune to fail I'm at the airport so I have a lot of
background noise but today we are re-releasing part one of episode two where fares tells us about the terrible
Turpin family it's a real sad story lots of kids living in a house of horrors
um you might have seen them on the news they went to Disneyland it's quite weird um hope you enjoy thanks
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welcome to doomedale the podcast where we ignore all the red flags I'm farts
joined by my co-host Taylor and every week we'll be bringing you two Tales one historic and one true crime related of
relationships that were doomed to fail Taylor what's our signature drink this week
you fars so this week we'll be going back to ancient Rome so our cocktail is
going to be a glass of red wine but you have to drink it laying down on
a couch covered in pillows and you don't hold the glass someone else holds the glass and pours it into your mouth and
then they back up and they spill the red wine on the carpet so you send them to death by being eaten by a lion so that's
our cocktail and then our mocktail because we know not everyone is a
drinker so our mocktail is one of those mustard yellow Tupperware cups from the
80s it is stained and it is crusty and it's been on the floor for a few years and it's also just empty there's no
actual like liquid in it it's just this dirty Cup on the floor as far as I think you'll cover why
um why we have that dirty Cup on the floor I will absolutely be covering why this disgusting cup is on the floor uh if you
do have a dirty yellow Tupperware cup from the 80s please wash it before you drink anything out of it
um but that's it today we're going to be covering Emperor Nero of Rome and the Turpin family and try to find the red
flags which are going to be a plenty so I'm going to Dive Right In we're going to start on the True Crime side of the equation and as usual I'm going to ask
you Taylor being the true Prime Aficionado that you are do you know are you familiar with the Turpin family case
hey I am and I kind of feel like I want to gag because it's so gross um I am like I don't know all the details
um luckily but I guess I'll get to know them now um but yeah I just I imagine
it's real gross and sad very gross very gross very sad so just
kick things off do you remember um Harry who's Jeff Daniels character in
Dumb and Dumber yes okay picture that guy from now on every
time I bring up David Turpin he looks like he's wearing a mop on his head and it also looks silky smooth for some
reason so he apparently cares he cares enough about his hair to condition and moisturize it but not enough to actually
cut it and modernize it and make it look normal which is very very interesting um okay great that I got it got it got
it okay perfect so with that Preamble let's start in on David and Louise Turpin uh right at the
top I'm gonna blame religion and power down to the story religion tends to play in quite a bit as we've seen in the last
episode as well into my True Crime cases David and Louise met when he was 23 and
she was 16. obvious power Dynamic right yeah um I get that a seven year age Gap
doesn't mean much when you're 40 and she's 33 but by this time Dave was a computer engineer he would he had the
Arab a man who had his [ __ ] together to a 16 year old right yeah totally it's a
huge difference huge difference from what I could gather they only were together for about a year before getting
married in 1985 and the circumstances under which they got married were also really interesting they kind of
absconded with each other without the parents with with her parents completely
disapproving of this trying to get married to each other and then somehow they came back home and they squared
things away with her parents and were able to get married but it was it was kind of like a he basically was trying to take advantage of a 16 year old is
how I interpreted this yeah um I mean there's no way to notch like you know there's a thing like if you're underage
then like it's against your will there's no such thing you know you can't scent if you're a child exactly exactly
um so going into a bit of their individual histories Luis seems to have
had a really rough childhood according to her sister Teresa their mother would sell the girls to local pedophiles yeah
Teresa is quoted as saying this is all a quote he would slip money into my hands as he
molested me I can still feel his breath on my neck as he whispered be quiet
we begged her not to take us to him but she would simply say I have to clothe and feed you
Louise had the Louisa was abused the worst he destroyed my self-worth as a
child and I know he destroyed hers too this is Teresa the sister talking which is crazy I I didn't have an exact age
range here where this was going on but it doesn't matter I mean it's still it's awful no matter what
um so I mean it sounds like she never had a chance like yeah she kind of started off with a with a
bad bad hand um using poker terms which on shareable at
um and his story was actually corroborated so they have another sister who's named Elizabeth uh she
corroborated the sexual abuse story too but then she also leveled some pretty stupid accusations
against Louise to kind of impute her character and just by what she did she wrote a book um the book is called uh sisters of
Secrets and so for context Teresa was of
the opinion I can't believe that my sister would do this this is insane whereas Elizabeth was of the opinion of
of course she could do this look at her past look at her history look at what she was involved in they're so stupid
she accused her of drinking smoking going to bars practicing witchcraft
gambling I love that for her yeah eating steaks and then she made some like vague sexual promiscuity claims against her
um don't know exactly what those are related to but all this sounds like
I mean eating snakes is a little bit unusual unless you're in Louisiana steak I was like that seems fine but
snakes I see I get it I get it slithering kind not the delicious cow kind
um but all this kind of sounds like just edgy emo [ __ ] that anybody would do when they don't even sound edgy yeah exactly
right it's fairly fairly standard operating procedure for most kids yeah
so Elizabeth sounds like you're going back to our theme from last week a bit of a wet noodle uh so we're not a huge
fan of Elizabeth because she basically tried to find any reason to justify what ended up happening which we're about to dive straight into totally but
before we dive into a building back on the characters at hand here David was
kind of the flip side of that equation he was a bit of a baby straight edge um he was part of the Bible chess and
science clubs made really good grades and actually I ended up going back and finding his high school year yearbook
picture he had the hair he had the mop air in high school it was absolutely incredible he looked exactly the same oh
my gosh that kind of thing feels like permanent maybe that's it was just permanent like you just can't do anything about it that's so funny yeah
um I didn't put this in the outline but I wanted to call this out because if any of you have look up a picture of these
two the one thing that also that I found really interesting about this despite kind of like how they ended up they were
part of a swingers community so they had swinger parties too which again nothing
wrong with being a swinger yeah that's fine but they are imagine walking into
that house that I'm about to describe and preparing yourself to have have a sex party with these people
um but the problem with being a swinger is like not everyone is attractive
some of them look like Harry from Dumb and Dumber yes but also maybe you like that so you just have to kind of know
where you're getting into like don't be surprised if you're like I like that then like great but if you're like I expect it to be something like really
beautiful and like sexy and you get there and it's like no but remember and all of a sudden when they go to the sex
party and Danny DeVito's eating from the buffet it's gross that's that's what I'm imagining like a book there's a there's
also a buffet well it's not even their appearance I'm addressing here I'm addressing the fact that you walk into what I'm about to
describe as the house oh yeah sex with these people and it's like what what could be going through your mind
um but let me look I'll go to the house and then and then we'll back our way into like now imagine walking into this to have sex with these people
um so going back to the story in 2011 David files for bankruptcy cleaning 240
000 in credit card debt that's an insane amount of credit card
debt what are you buying with that like car I don't you know I don't even think you
can buy a car on a credit card I think you have to actually take out an auto loan or something like it's yeah I mean
this number really blew me away because I mean sure everybody everybody has credit card debt it's a it's a thing it is what it is but this amount of it is
is pretty remarkable to me especially when you factor in that he had a really good salary he made about 140 000 a year
as an engineer um you know I I don't know if this detail
is particularly significant the debt that they were in but I can see why that level of debt could increase stress
levels and kind of give it some rational thinking yeah but I mean what ended up happening kind
of goes a little bit down a little bit it goes a lot Beyond just stress related to some debt but I don't know what do
you think yeah well I also think like I know you're going to talk about it but part of it is like they have a [ __ ] ton of children so like I don't know maybe
think about your financial situation before you have 47 kids like stuff like that that I think might maybe also ties
to the religion Factor as well maybe they like didn't take precautions to not have kids but like
at some point you have to be like I'm way over my head with this debt I should stop incurring more expenses
yeah having like seven thousand kids yeah whenever I whenever I consider the debt piece of it and then look at what
ended up happening I was like well could this have been a response to like we just don't have the money for these
children and this is the only option we have I mean obviously that's not an excuse but I'm just trying to make I'm
trying to create a logic yeah incredibly illogical situation totally but if you like like you have a you have a dog if
you're like all right I can't afford to take care of my dog you wouldn't stop feeding your dog you would give it to
someone else yeah exactly exactly you'd re-home it um so
going back to the story they lived in Fort Worth which is just outside of Dallas Texas until 1999 and then they
moved to another town in Texas called Rio Vista in 2007 they moved 10 of their children
into a trailer on that property in Rio Vista um there was two other kids so there was
12 in total and the two youngest stayed in the house with their parents um the other ten were brought Groceries
on a weekly basis but apparently it wasn't enough food for all of them uh this trailer eventually looked exactly
like what you would expect when the family left it from the way it was described by neighbors it was basically
like an episode of Hoarders it was just feces everywhere dead animals everywhere
food it was filthy absolutely oh my God and I can't and the thing is I mean how
big of a trailer period have possibly been I didn't see it I didn't get dimensions on it but 10 people is just
yeah you'd have to be sleeping on the floor I would assume right yeah absolutely yeah
so yeah well the family relocated to Paris California in 2014.
um people thought they were odd but nothing super out of the ordinary they would occasionally do nice family things if you Google the turpins one of the
first uh pictures you'll pull up is of them at Disneyland and they're all wearing you know thing t-shirts you know
thing one two three four they're wearing all those um and they look normal minus you know David's haircut like they actually did
some stuff occasionally together it's also so funny because that's so expensive like I don't want to go to
Disneyland with my four-person family because I don't feel like spending four thousand dollars you know like
yeah so so I don't have kids so I don't know what this would equate to but could
you rack up 240 000 in credit card debt by taking your kids to Disneyland no but you could rack up like 15. wow okay yeah
if you lived there for like a week and like stayed in a hotel and had tickets and bought food and like whatever and
made those thing t-shirts you could it could be a lot going back to like the pictures these
folks say there was another picture that came up which is of them getting uh renewing their vows with all
their children in tow you've seen that right it's so Eerie it's like they're so
pleased with one another there's something about it that just like shook me they definitely look like oh we're so happy and we're so in love and like
renewing our bows and there's like an Elvis and they just look so super happy and you're like what I don't be pleased with yourself
you're doing a terrible job yeah um so look up these people and see these
pictures because it's it's a a little haunting after you realize what those kids were going through while all this
was happening um so they were uh both Pentecostal uh they
believed that they were called to have this many children by God so you know kudos to you Taylor you kind of guess
why this ended up happening the way that it ended up happening um I researched Pentecostalism and
realization these are the people that speak in tongues I think well I think so like that I was
going to ask you like tell me a little bit more about being Pentecostal so yeah speaking in tongues it sounds
hilarious I I went down a rabbit hole with this because I was just blown away
at like the belief system here so these are these are the folks that think that the Holy Spirit inhibits their body
um and they'll start just speaking in gibberish under the auspices that that
is the holy spirit in their body trying to express itself um it was I can't remember his name now
there was a huge mega church guy in in Dallas who would do this all the time you get on TV I remember I used to watch
because I grew up in Dallas and I would watch this guy on late night TV just like doing gibberish talking to the
camera trying to get people to send him money and then he ended up being found as a total scam artist and got sued by the government and everything else but
it's crazy like they fall on the ground they roll around it's like basically the
shittiest improv skit of all time and then people just buy into it for some reason but I don't know like
do they try to like translate what they're saying no it's true it's nonsense it's absolute nonsense but they
don't try to be like this this nonsense means give me money and or they're just like it's just nonsense
watch me do it so you're kind of onto something on that last point so
the theology is also tied to the prosperity theology which are you
familiar with that no okay so this means that having material in the financial wealth is a sign that God thinks you're
great basically so yeah so if you're poor you're poor because God
hates you if you're rich you're rich because God loves you um yeah so it basically means that your
faith in God is what brings you these things and I find it interesting when factored in with the bankruptcy because you kind of have to think to yourself
you know were they thinking to themselves like I guess I was wondering how
psychologically with if you believe this stuff how would you feel if you were also this destitute as they as they
ended up being how do you ignore the debt and you like think well I'm rich because I can buy
all these things even though you're and you're like not thinking about like oh but I don't have that money I have to pay it back I was I was actually
thinking in terms of did they think that if they neglected their kids and spend as little as possible to keep them alive it would help them with God because
they'd have money left over right you know like it's it's not good it's not good
um so the kids so they're ten daughters three sons all born between 1988 and
2015. um so towards the end of this Saga
which we even got to the house yet but I'm gonna how this ended up happening because what ended up happening they
discovered the house is critical here so as this Saga is coming to an end and they're about to be discovered
apparently there's a bunch of talks of the family all moving to Oklahoma I don't know exactly the details of what
happened here um but in 2018 one of the kids her name's Jordan she was 17 at the time
fled through the window and ran a distance from the house before calling 9-1-1 on a cell phone she had on her apparently there were some internal
discussions amongst the kids who were all all you know destitute together that
moving to Oklahoma for whatever reason would be basically the end of them that would be the death I don't know exactly
what happened because it was already awful it was already awful for this right years and what what was the reason for this the
other thing I don't understand is why these how these kids had cell phones uh there's actually multiple examples of
this I'm going to go into a little bit later but the kids apparently had cell phones on them then for some reason they were still
running out of the house to go to school did they go to school no no what's actually amazing and really funny is um
is David listed himself on some tax filing or something as a
principle of sand castle Day School that's like operated from his house yeah exactly
other conviction for falsifying records for to on a official form because of
this principle thing yeah um I don't know I feel like I know you can get a cell phone you know if you are
financially in need of a cell phone because you know you do need one to like get a job and like things like that you
know so you can get one via assistance but I don't know how they would have like applied for that assistance I also know that you can dial 9-1-1 on phones
that are that don't work so if if you have a phone that isn't connected like a plan
um you can still down 9-1-1 on it so actually really good advice for anybody
like if you actually need to do it but I will say it and you'll see later on that these phones had service I'll explain
that bit in a moment which again yeah yeah I don't I don't know how they got cell phones I don't know why they didn't
use them earlier I don't know what why they had to leave the house to use them so on and so forth it's all it's all a little bit of a mystery
um but Jordan ended up doing this and the police showed up and Jordan showed them pictures that she'd taken on that cell phone of the house and Jordan told
the police quote my two little sisters right now are chained up they're chained up because because they stole mother's
food yeah imagine being a copy word that
I feel like it'd be I would just I'd be like what what they stole mom's food
crazy well I don't say mother he called they called her mother like Mike Pence calls his wife mother like that's not
great like when you hear that you're like that's bad um I also feel like there's some there's I mean
there's so many people who dedicate their lives to helping children who are in these terrible situations but there's also a place where they like
don't know what is normal you know so like maybe a lot of
it they're like yeah this is just our life like I've never seen a life that isn't like this but also like
almost feel terrible so so I'm gonna go into that too because I I thought a lot
about that as well and that and it ties into the cell phones and everything else here in a moment um so the police responded for a welfare
check to the house and just found it in complete disright obviously it was also what you would picture about Porter's
house he said the detail that gets me is that you they keep finding
dead pets in the house yeah like they don't barrier cremate them they just
like live with them decomposing on their living room floor I don't know what pets
it was it was just it just said pets it doesn't matter yeah no that's so gross whenever I see that in hoarders they'll
be like oh yeah there's a cat skeleton in the corner girl like how did we get here like it's just it's so much farther
than like not taking out your trash um that's horrible yeah yeah uh that that detail you're right when I watch
borders I also have that reaction is that's the one detail it's like of everything else that's the one I least
understand I also just love watching quarters I keep waiting for them a new season I've watched all of it I want
more but yes we have the exact same TV addiction um
so uh police witness one of the kids was Shackled Shackled to a bed
um and apparently I don't know how they know this but apparently he'd been Shackled there for weeks I can only presume it was based on the reaction to
the shackles on his skin that they would be able to deduce how long he'd been up there um the details of what these kids
endured is a kind of Beyond Comprehension they were obviously incredibly malnourished and extremely
dirty they were regularly beaten they were only allowed to be the once per year oh my God go back to the 10 kids in
the RV or the trailer right once a year living in those
conditions um they were also regularly Shackled as police had already observed and they had
very little understanding of the outside world apparently they were fed only once a day and they also weren't allowed to
use the indoor bathroom so I can only imagine there was like a [ __ ] bucket sitting somewhere inside the room these
kids were in oh my God yeah unbelievable um so
I'm gonna go back to what you'd mentioned which is their understanding of the outside world and then also tied
into the cell phones one details I was reading about their story and researching it was in 2014
Jordan the girl who the daughter who ran out called the police yeah she saw a
Justin Bieber video on her brother's cell phone yeah and she'd also been watching Hannah
Montana and High School Musical on this cell phone so that Point's like hey the cell phones worked the cell phones had a
service so like right totally don't understand how that wasn't being used
but can you imagine that can you imagine being that isolated and then seeing stuff like that like I get fomo if I
just say on a rainy Saturday I can't imagine what it must be you're covered in dirt wearing tattered clothes
starving walking around and [ __ ] and you see essentially the polar opposite like I mean I've never watched Hannah Montana
but I would assume that it is the polar opposite right it is yes but it is uh
you remember how our friend Jeff was in Hannah Montana was he really yeah he he was in like an
episode where they're like playing volleyball for some reason and he like he like won against her or something
oh you know what that does ring a bell actually does
um yeah this part of it just blows me away like
you watch this stuff you know that there's a world like that out there and
you live in this situation I just I just it's incredible
yeah but just like how much have you been brainwashed to think that that is the life that you should live right yeah so doesn't living like that
mean God hates you it's I'm not expecting any rational answers from this but I'm just saying
that like if you're living like in poverty God hates you right but here's the thing I
mean given how they treated these kids I don't think that you know religious
teachings were being imposed on them it doesn't seem like they it seems like
the Louise and David were having their own wives being run in parallel to like
these separate lives these kids were living um yeah he went to work he had a great job
like he was doing his thing yeah yeah um so the parents were obviously arrested
and they were charged with torture false imprisonment abuse of a dependent adult since several of the children were 18 or
older in child abuse the dad was additionally charged with lewd acts on a
child oh no yeah not that that's surprising but oh no I know I know they ultimately pled
guilty so originally they were they um pled not guilty and then they changed their plea to guilty
um and they were thankfully sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole I think after 22 years but
apparently the general prevailing theory is that given the nature of the crimes that there's no chance it would ever
re-release into the public um and they're separated right obviously because she's an immense a women's
prison he's in a Men's prison totally totally that's awesome that's great I'm happy they're not together yeah they
don't do much good together um so there's a bit of an aftermath so a
bit of an aftermath as far as these kids are concerned that's really depressing so we're going to continue on that theme
um it's kind of hard to imagine but some of these kids suffered even more after this event what obviously the kids were
taken away right like they were taken away and the state had to well the
county had to figure out what resources to kind of apply to bring these kids back up um to be able to live reasonable lives
the kids were obviously super [ __ ] up psychologically and also had um Health elements because of the lack of nutrition they ultimately spent two
months in the hospital it's crazy it's a long time um this is where it gets bad Taylor so
five of the kids were adopted by a family and and these people were utter pieces
of [ __ ] I don't know I'm hiding out of the screen because I'm so upset yeah I don't know how
you find people like this and not appropriately bet them but apparently Riverside County didn't
um the kind of abuse they suffered I'm gonna read the laundry list of it here they were hit in the face they had their hair pulled they were hit with belts
they were forced to eat excessive amounts of food and then when they vomited they were forced to eat their vomit oh
and you know it's a given but we'll we'll just tack it on anyways the Foster
father was also accused of following fondling and kissing them on the mouth you know I
love the kids Jesus Christ I don't oh my God it's like how much can one how much
did someone take right um I mean there's people out there who are like I love five kids do abuse
please yeah and they're just like waiting for that like what have been in the past and like oh God yeah yeah it's
it's really really bad um so the foster parents were obviously
arrested as well in the mix in the middle of all this um but yeah so this story has some
parallels with cold so I'm gonna do a little bit of a sidebar here I'm mostly
thinking about hardcore insular poly um poly marriage whatever it's called
thinking of the children of God who are now known as The Family International so when I read stories about people who
have left these groups you're certainly the fact that they can't take care of themselves everything's done for you
you're part of a community a bad one but you're part of the community that everything's done for you they don't know how to do the basic
adult Stuff how to open a bank account rent an apartment buy furniture work a normal jobs so on and so forth
that was all going on here as well because usually it's because everything
was done for you and then teaching basic life skills wasn't really good for whoever the leader was whether it's
children of God yeah yeah the harder you make it to leave the life cycle someone is to do so
totally and that's the impression I get of what's going on here these kids as they age out of the Foster program are
kind of just dropped into the real world with no understanding of how to do normal things and like I don't blame
them I don't know if you remember what you were like when you were 18 but when I was eight I mean I didn't have my [ __ ] together until I was probably like 32.
like you know what I mean right and and you knew and you knew about the world also you know how old are you now are
you like 33. what in terms of maturity probably in
terms of you saying that you guys should do another you were 32 I'm just asking oh hello
six years together okay um but no I mean look if you drop me
into the real world even without the exposure of abuse that these kids suffered at 18 I I probably
would have just died in the gutter like there's no way I would have figured my [ __ ] out right like nobody would I don't think I don't think so I mean you know
what are you gonna how are you even gonna know how to get a job you know or like that's and then if you don't have
anything how do you get anything you know like getting an apartment you have to have money to even start you know
like there's not like the story gets worse now that you mentioned
so some of these kids ended up being homeless um obviously Riverside County was the um
County that had jurisdiction over the kids the child services and we're responsible basically their well-being
um they were sued by some of the kids um for placing them in that [ __ ] Foster family's house and also because
this part I don't recall from when the news broke on this case but apparently
the public donated around two million dollars for the care loading of these
kids yeah and so it never was distributed there's a
there was a guardian ad by them who never distributed the funds the kids would ask for it it would it would they
would never get it um and yeah that's why the kids end up homeless in a
lot of cases is because they age out of the Foster program and they had no resources to fall back on and no life
skills in this Guardian Adeline for whatever reason abdicated her responsibilities and just did not distribute the resources to these kids
they needed to survive so basically everybody everybody failed these kids yeah yeah but it wouldn't I wouldn't say
you should give them two million dollars because they don't know what to do with it and they might just buy a house and like not take care of it because they don't know how you know but you could
like give them money for an apartment you know and like right wouldn't that be that guardian's job to like so that's
the responsibility of the Guardian line and the guardian ad litem is is that they're Guardians it's in lieu
of parents this is the person who is supposed to tell you here's how you go get health care here's how you go
shopping for food here's how you create a bank account here's how I could do that for them
side hustle um is become a guardian ad litem but and it also as part of all that is
distribute resources as needed like you have to make a case for it right yeah the guardian alignment isn't just going
to say here's two million dollars good luck go go at it um which I think is the right decision yeah but you should do something she
didn't do anything exactly um so that's where we are right now the parents are in jail presumably for the
rest of their lives thankfully the kids are unfortunately like not doing that great it sounds like
um you know all this is fairly recent so every now and then there's news stories that come up I think the most recent one
was December of um 2021 about what the update is on the kids so there's gonna be more more updates on this we'll
update this um uh podcast as we hear more about what's going on with the kids Apparently one of them did graduate from
high school so that's good but you know like you're adults when you're dealt a
hand this bad it's kind of tough to recover yeah um absolutely
so that's my story about the turpins and when I think about yeah when I think
about this being doomed to fail I really fall back on the conclusion of the control dynamic between David and Louise I don't
think Louise is a good person but I also think that a she was horribly
emotionally and psychologically and physically damaged in her childhood and
so she hooks up with a guy when she's still a child who's seven years or older
and David and I don't I don't know for sure but I would imagine that David kind of ruled their decision making whatever
David did and said would probably work and she doesn't have any understanding of what a normal childhood should look
like like you learn from what your parents teach you and she never learned the right way to do that and so yeah I
think the cycle of abuse is is what you know Dooms um Dooms us this couple in this family to fail because there's no
um like you said there's nothing like good to look back on and know like what it felt like to be like loved and taken
care of and you know all those things I think it's just like and who knows if he abused her yeah or
she like what that might have been like because she seems super happy but like she also is definitely in a weird
situation you know like the the power Dynamic of the 16 year old marrying a 20 whatever year old like I hate that yeah
yeah not not good none of it's good hopefully the kids recover um and that is our true crime story of
the week so I think I think a good takeaway is to um look into your neighbor's windows and make sure I'm not
doing anything weird if you go to a Swinger's house there's dead cats and dogs in the living room tell somebody
yes steal someone like I think that's you know if you think someone's in
trouble please tell someone I know that like we're not like the cops are the best the Foster system obviously
is not the best but you should definitely tell someone and try to do something absolutely something say
something yeah see something safe all right that was part one of episode
two on the Turpin family hope you're all are okay um next week we will be releasing part
two where I go into the story of Emperor Nero and his wife Pompeo and all of the
absolute chaos that Nero caused in Rome later in our podcast episodes I also
talk about how the city of Pompeii was destroyed by Mount Vesuvius and that's
kind of a similar time period Nero did travel to Pompeii to sing obviously and
then also to do a little bit of um governing see some um races he stopped a riot kind of so
all sorts of stuff it all connects you can check out my history timeline if you look at our linked traits in our on our
Instagram and you can kind of see where it all fits together so yeah be honest
for next week for that and then also follow us everywhere that you listen to podcasts please tell your friends and