Imagine one of the most famous movie stars of the time being embroiled in a sex scandal (that's both the plot of this story and a joke because things today in 2024 are literally insane). Fatty Arbuckle was at a party in San Francisco and a woman died. We won't ever know what really happened, but the following scandal ruined many lives.
Imagine one of the most famous movie stars of the time being embroiled in a sex scandal (that's both the plot of this story and a joke because things today in 2024 are literally insane). Fatty Arbuckle was at a party in San Francisco and a woman died. We won't ever know what really happened, but the following scandal ruined many lives.
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hi Taylor from do defail we are almost done with our re-releases folks our first 26 episodes we did two stories at
a time but then they got pretty long so we do one on one Monday and Wednesdays now but this is episode 20 part one on
Fatty Arbuckle one of the most famous actors when film first started um who got embroiled in a scandal someone died
did he do it did he do what like it's not even clear what exactly happened um but either way his life was ruined so
was the life of the person obviously who died in the story so um Hollywood's always been crazy since since the
beginning I hope you enjoy this re-release and let us know if you need anything we're at Doom to fill a pod on
all the socials thank you in a matter of the people of the State of California versus orthal James Simpson case number
ba09 and so my fellow Americans ask not what your country can
do for you ask what you can do for your country
so we're going to effortlessly pretend like we didn't just have that conversation Taylor how's how's you how was the drive-in movie theater um it was
very nice we saw well we have a truck now so we wanted to drive the truck to the drive-in so that was super fun we
like got had this like tiny blowup mattress so we used that and then like had some blankets and stuff and watched the movie and it was very delightful and
then like I don't know anything about trucks so I was like I think it'll be fine Sly the blackets in the back and we definitely lost the aess on the way back
like it's gone it's in the wind but was the truck bed closed not like the
top okay yeah I'm surprised the air match was to fly out actually I thought
it had like heavy blankets on it I thought it would I thought it would be okay but it was not so lesson learned
interesting y but you did you see it fly out because You' have stopped and gotten it we like heard it and then like I
stopped we stopped and I put everything else in the car like in the cab part of it but I um no it was Pitch Black it was
like it's like a really really dark Road and so I was like I'm not we're not dying for this air mattress yeah yeah
not worth it yeah it and was it was it funner to see Mario Kart in a truck yeah
it's so fun like we like all snuggled and and we're all sitting together and
miles is the sweetest little boy he kept leaving the snuggle to stick his butt out the end of the truck and fart he
didn't want to fart in the snuggle oh my God that's so cute he's so cute so he'd be like I'll be right back and he like
go little little fart and then come back I think I commented when I saw a picture of Juan with a truck that we have to go
get him cowboy boots next it's very fun Bing truck still Bing truck yeah cool
well shall we get rolling yeah well let's say first that you're you're an
Ireland I'm an Ireland and we tried to record those a couple times and we were both unavailable it is it is probably
the most inconvenient time zone overlap of anywhere like Australia and New Zealand have a much wider Gap in time
but it actually circles back around in a way that makes it much more convenient Ireland is not it is 4 pm here what time
is it for you Taylor 8 AM 8 am for you it's 4 pm for me and I'm here for a
wedding so weddings start midday um and
yeah yeah makes it super super inconvenient and like actually there's another thing I don't know I'm going to do this but there's another thing
happening tonight at a Tavern that's supposed to start at 6 but I think I'm just going to go a little bit late
because I should use some time to like so the invite says it starts at 600 and it goes so it says 6 pm-
late so there is no actual term end to this but amazing um yeah my body's my
body's seriously hurting right now but yeah it was awesome it was really really cool it was really fun it was an amazing
wedding they're amazing couple get to hang out with a lot of old ner people which was really cool so nice yeah yeah
all good things yeah I guess we can go ahead and kick things off welcome to Doom to fail I'm fars joined here by
Taylor we were just having a little bit of a chat about farting in truck beds and Mario Kart and Ireland yep for H
this is going to be released on time because I'm further ahead in time I can
spend all my morning editing the podcast for release at 10: a.m. Pacific on sad
Monday so all right yeah yeah it's actually work out perfect okay good so
uh we're going to go ahead and kick things off and hold on did I pick a drink yet I don't know if I picked a drink you go first today right I think I
do go first so wait you should start with your drink then okay well I actually am drinking coffee but my drink
is a mimosa because it's Mother's Day happy Mother's Day happy Mother's Day Taylor you're
right thank you has nothing to do with my story but I just I have some PCO in
the fridge and I will make myself a mimosa later that is awesome that is awesome uh I need to call my mom okay
call your mom yeah the wedding again my head's just been in a different head space for the time being but I still
Mother's Day yeah it's still Mother's Day so I think for me I've um I've been like mainlining guinnesses I'm sure for
the past eight days so I think I'm G to go with Guinness I think that's my drink
gotcha you're 90% Guinness at this point Yeah by body weight I am and I'm not and
has nothing to do with the story because our story is more of like a Hollywood Story in this and Guinness is a very
Irish beer but I'm feeling Irish so I'm gonna go with that nice yeah you're in Ireland when when in Ireland when in
Ireland Mainline Guinness and jam and Middleton and red bruss and the it goes
on like that so I started researching my favorite murder in American True Crime
history and I got pretty far before I realized it actually has nothing to do with the premise of our show so I
stopped but what I was what I was researching was actually a murder that you mentioned before Taylor can you
guess can you guess which one this was no wait what your favorite murder is
yeah um I don't know can I have one hint okay you mentioned it in a podcast where
you referenced the builtmore oh the black dollia there you go yep okay black doia so I got in the
Weeds on the black dollia murder there so many details around this there's so many suspects and what
I realized was nobody was charged we just have like some educated guests on who did it but as a result of that we
don't actually know why she was killed so there's one presumption I read that she was killed because this doctor who
owned the Jaws house you remember that he uh got her pregnant and wanted her
not to have a kid and so he killed her there's another story I read where she um she was killed by bug seagull like a
famous mobster of the time and was thrown around thrown over to the um under the Hollywood Sign where her body
was found but really like there is no conclusive details on what happened to her so as a result it's kind of like
just an unsolved mystery so why there's no red flag right so what can you say about that what about that redhead
cop I I didn't read about a Cop doing it it's like a redhead cop that like might
have done it I don't know is the fact that he is redheaded does that have anything to do what is
that how they identify him yeah okay Ginger suspicious Ginger are I you know
what they I can't say that here that's true you're in the wrong space don't tell anyone I said that can't say that
here um but yeah so I was like okay well like that's kind of out I mean I do have
a pretty good write up on it so we could I could probably do a little side piece side thing on that but um I decided to
kind of stick it stick with LA stick with black and white LA and I shifted to another super super famous and
mysterious death the death of woman named Virginia rap do you know that name I I don't think so okay you might know
the other name because the other name is a reason why this case is famous so the person who was the alleged perpetrator
of this was a guy named Fatty Arbuckle oh yes yes yes yes yes there we go you know this so okay there we go so For
Better or Worse the main character in the death of Virginia is basically fatty Arbuckle for those that don't know fatty
was basically the equivalent of like a Ben Stiller in like the early 1900s so
he was basically a renowned com comedian he was a silent film star and he was essentially Hollywood royalty I I'm
going to get into like how much this guy made like he was insane how much money this guy made but digging digging into
like the background and bio of fatty so he was actually born Rosco Arbuckle in
1887 in Smith Center Kansas Fatty's dad was kind of an [ __ ] fatty was born 13
lbs which That's Heavy right holy [ __ ] yeah was mom okay um my kids were six
and they were that's pretty small I think average is like seven or eight 13's a lot okay yeah okay so his his
full name is Rosco conkling Arbuckle and the reason for that is because his dad was so sure that the mom cheated on him
to get pregnant by fatty because they were both very slight people and this
kid was born at 13 pounds and he was like obviously this came be my kid so he
named him Rosco conkling Arbuckle after Rosco conkling who was a US senator
known for being a womanizer in like a Flander just sleeping around a bunch so that's like what a dick how his life
started was he was named after basically a guy that was like very much looked down upon in society and yeah that was
basically it so I don't think that is that's not I mean like who knows if that's true but like that's not true
that like you can't have a big baby if you're little yeah I I don't know I mean I I
assume that's not true but again like 13 pounds might be freakishly huge I don't know but um yeah yeah that was that was
his take on it at least so at 11 years old I mean this this this actually this
case my head and thinking about this stuff so at 11 years old Fatty's mom died and basically the dad was like
you're not my kid I'm not going to support you wow so like I was thinking
like I would okay so again going back to BB in Ireland Jeff Dunn is the one who planned this entire triap like every
minute of was accounted for you go from here to here it takes this many minutes to go here all of it every second of it
was planned by him if he hadn't done that I was like dude I would have just landed in Ireland and probably just like died somehow like I I wouldn't have even
gotten the wedding venue this kid was 11 years old and was like go support
yourself it's crazy yeah that's crazy and then by 17 fatty joined what is like
now we would consider a comedy troop like like improv type thing it was uh
back then the name for that was essentially was a bobville show so it was like him and a bunch of his friends they would do like these acts around the
city and all that good stuff and that's kind of like the start of his foray into the entertainment
industry he blew up from there by 22 by age 22 he was in silent movies and he
was basically this like hug celebrity so it was it was a it was this one show
called Keystone Cops that is where he got his launched so he did the sitcom for I think two or four SE no two
seasons Keystone copsy did that and then from there became famous enough to where he is like a silent film star
essentially that show Keystone Cops that's where the pie in the face dad comes from like he invented that yeah I
feel like that's like a a pseudonym for like Co bumbling cops yeah yeah yeah
yeah you can you can look up Sills of it you can still find those um and that's basically what it is like again because
so fatty we'll find out a little bit later he was called fatty because he's overweight right and yeah so because he
was overweight like it was a bumbling cop thing that that was kind of like the whole gag they put together so that was
a launch of his career and really it was like I wrote down was basically like when Jennifer did friends then
transition into into doing films that was essentially Y in 1914 so two years
into his run on that show keyone Cops Paramount Pictures offered him $1,000 per day as a salary so I didn't know
this but apparently back in the day actors weren't independent contractors they don't go from making a movie for
this studio to that studio the other Studio they're hired on retainer by MGM or Warner Brothers or in this case
Paramount that was that was the standard back then totally and go ahead sorry I don't think
it's like a show it wasn't like it was like was were there like short films it wasn't like
TV yeah that's true so it's a sick but you must have gone there to watch it
yeah anyway keep going yeah that's good point yeah the you're hilarious like no
one no one likes Jennifer Anderson movies I know I know it's not like a
they can be fun but not funny I'll say that muchir so four years into this
arrangement with Paramount fatty of him making $1,000 per day like that contract
was was crazy because it segwayed into a another contract after he became successful with Paramount to a $3
million deal SO3 million what year was it this would have been
1920 1921 and it mean $1,000 a day and well
it was $1,000 a day for four years then he got a contract for $3 million for a
threee deal oh my that is so much money I would love $1,000 doar a day okay much money right now that's $54 million today
wow so by comparison right now the highest paid actor is The Rock and that's he makes $89
million wow but that's the caliber of Fame this guy was on I know it's hard to think about because it's like who knows
this guy like nobody nobody cares right we only know him because of what I'm gonna discuss here but at the time he
was essentially the rock yeah caliber famous so totally okay so let's pivot to
the other person involved here Virginia rap so Virginia was born in Chicago she moved to California in 1916 where she
met and got married to someone who's basically irrelevant because he got hit in the like most Looney Tunes way
possible he got hit by a street car you got run over by a street car and killed so I guess that's that's how you die in
the 1900s I guess she would start modeling and acting a bit uh in little
bit parts around La by virtue how famous Betty was the details I just put down
for Virginia that's basically it because Virginia was I had to say but she was kind of a nobody she's only famous of
how she died and because it was fatty it was a part of us so that's basically it one thing one detail about Virginia that
was kind of cool that I read was that she was actually buried at our favorite outdoor movie venue Hollywood Forever Cemetery remember CIA
yep yeah very cool way to go so going back to fatty so in 1921 him and his two
friends decided to take a weekend trip from Los Angeles to San Francisco they ran into three rooms one room was for
fatty and one of his friends to share the other was for the other friend and then there was a third room that was the party room so basically they just wanted
to San Francisco to party that was the entire idea great women started pouring
in because again this is like the most famous guy in town he shows up he's in your city and among the women that
showed up was Virginia so going forward I'll say that we don't
have a ton of details of what actually happened we have very credible or sorry not credible the
opposite non-credible witness testimony about what happened we have a corrupt da
and we have Fatty's word and we don't know if we can trust fatty so a lot of what what I'm going to discuss here it's
just straight facts of how she was found and what some assumptions were made around what happened to her basically
Virginia was found to be very unwell and was taken to a doctor because because back then hotels had doctors on staff
she was saying to a doctor and the doctor concluded that she was just super super drunk 3 days later she hadn't
improved and a friend took her to a hospital and this friend her name is Bambina Delmont and at the hospital the
friend Bambina told doctors that fatty had raped Virginia at the time doctors found no
evidence of rape but again this is like several days later so like I don't I don't know how likely that would have been anyways and it ended up being that
Virginia died the next day of a thing called Perry tontis peritonitis which is basically
inflammation in the abdominal wall that's just left untreated which it was because she actually had with a ruptured
bladder so she had a ruptured bladder and apparently she'd had that for like at least these three days where she
wasn't getting any medical attention because everybody thought she was drunk and then she died of it same page yes
okay and absolute same page got it I think that friend also is controversial right very controversial very
controversial so once this happened and Bambino told the police at fatty rap
Virginia the police decided that this is the craziest thing ever so because fatty was fat which she was even
that fat I'll get into that they assumed that the ruptured bladder which was the C ultimate cause of her death was caused
by him laying on her until the bladder ruptured which is like it's ludicrous so it's ludicrous
but this story broke and it became huge huge new so the H media Empire was basically built on the back of the story
like this was kind of the start of yellow journalism which I'll get into here in a moment but it was basically
imagine if we found out to one The Rock killed somebody like killed a woman right like it would be all everywhere it would be talking about this yeah there
were stories that this is so gross so there were stories that an ice pick had been inserted in Virginia and then that
eventually morphed into like Coke cans and champagne bottles basically the media just like took this idea of fatty
rupture This Woman's bladder and just like totally ran with it and just made yeah stories up so this is where
convergence of several things come together so one I I wrote down several bullet points here the first one is a
rush to judgment so I think just generally as humans we have a societal
inclination to want to watch successful people fall from grace yeah and this
this was the guy this was the this was the the highest of the high guys the other I wrote down was yellow journalism
so apparently back then like Journal journalism really wasn't even a thing they would just write whatever they wanted to and they would let what it was
basically what clickbait is today back then so they would just WR with the wanted to hear and then once they get
feedback on the public opinion they just keep reinforcing that yeah I wrote down like so much of what we know about what
happened in Virginia just came from these stories that the heurst media Empire kind of generated for example that that story I mentioned about the
ice piic being inserted in Virginia there's actual Witnesses at the party that said that fatty was actually
rubbing ice on her stomach because she was in pain and that more into this there's Hollywood abuse so this is the
obvious Trope of an incredibly powerful successful Hollywood man in a naive young Starlet trying to break into the
industry there is obvious fat shaming going on here so the fact that the paper
turned this into he laid on her in due to his immense weight ruptured her bladder it's crazy he weighed 250 to 00
lb at his heaviest he was 300 lb which is like heavy but like not like a wrecking ball size I mean I think
there's a lot of guys walking around in 300 pounds I mean I wouldn't want them sitting on me but I got to be hurt if they
did um I mean definitely now yeah definitely now defin I mean yeah he
definitely stood out back then I'm sure it's worth noting that I've been calling him fatty this whole time he was
actually super self-conscious about his weight you brought this up when I talked about um Chris
Farley yeah Chippendale is that what it was yeah how sad he was cuz he was like
fat shaving yeah yeah and and I read that here too where he would deliberately not do like the fat guy
things of like the gags because he was just he just he was off conscious he didn't want to be known as that kind of
a person and anytime somebody would call him fatty he would tell them he' remind them that hey I have a name it's Rosco
like he never would never Patty yeah yeah and then the last bullet point of
the convergence of things here I wrote down was basically medical like it took three days to get her to the the
hospital and the one consistent thing amongst all Witnesses credible or not at
the party were that she was in writhing Agony and pain and nobody did anything
they took her down to the doctor and the doctor said she's drunk and then all they did when she got to the hospital
was pum FL morphine so they didn't even address the fact that she had a ruptured bladder like none of that came to light until her autopsy so right that's where
that's where it all kind of came together by this point the entire country was basically ready to Lynch
fatty because of those points coming together especially the Hollywood AB abuse side of it he was ultimately
indicted for manslaughter in San Francisco and went to trial the prosecutor was a guy named Matthew Brady
and Brady really had some Ambitions his idea was he was going to use this case
is a stepping stone to ultimately work his way up to Mayor and then governor of California that was his idea yeah and he was
basically willing to do whatever it would take to do that and we're going to see that here in a moment he started by
threatening the main witness another model who was at the party named Betty Campbell she testified that she thought
fatty had raped Virginia he also put a doctor on the stand who testified that fingerprints on the door of the room
proved that Virginia tried to escape but was forced back in by fatty which like how would you know that the idea was
like she maybe she gried it and then like she was pulled back but how would you know any of that yeah you could have
just grabb the door handle like a normal person trying to leave a room yeah yeah also like the testimony was irrelevant
because they actually pulled the hotel maid who testified that she had wiped the entire room clean including the door
knobs before the investigation even started oh so yeah because again it was like three four days after this happened
that she died so of course they turned the room over right fatty testified his own Tri there's plenty of people have
died in the hotel room that you're in right now I don't actually yeah in this hotel probably a lot of people have died I
mean Ireland's pretty old so and this is an old hotel and it's old part of town so yeah yeah I'm probably sleeping in a
dead woman's bed right now that's what I mean fatty testified his trial and his version of events is that
he discovered Virginia vomiting in his toilet he she asked to lie down in his
bed he carried her to the bedroom and then asked other party guests to look after her Virginia started convulsing
and they put her in the bathtub full of cold water to of I don't know why they they said it was to calm her down I
don't know why that would calm anybody down and apparently it was at this point that Virginia starts like ripping her clothes off and just like convulsing
violently and that's when they that's when they called the the hotel Doctor Who was like oh yeah she's drunk that's
all that's all this is uh after jur jury deliberations they were deadlocked with 10 voting for not guilty and two saying
he did it and so a mraw was happening and when a mraw happens it's like you just in a lot of cases you just keep
going you just keep trying and that's what they did here so a few months later fatty was retried and the exact same
thing happened except the jury uh except the jury this time was obviously a new jury and there was a few Witnesses who
mostly just referenced the fact that the head prosecutor asked him to lie like that was basically it like there other
witnesses that came forward saying this guy keeps trying to get me to lifee and again yeah another mistr so as all this
is going on fatty has basically been turned into a social Pariah so yeah he's
not working and because actors are contracted out
through their uh production companies the way they were they had full control over what you could say and what you
couldn't say so privately a lot of celebrities were in support of fatty
because they all knew him and they were like there's no way this guy anybody but publicly they all said you can't talk
about this you can't come out and support of this guy for sure not in support of him don't talk about it at all but definitely not in support of him
and so he was yeah Persona n in Hollywood so he couldn't work so that
obviously means he's like hemorrhaging cash and losing a lot of societal status as a result of this at this time there
was a third trial and that time he was actually found not guilty so at that
time it was 12 not guilty he was fully acquitted interesting fact here is that
the jury in a super rare move wrote a letter to fatty apologizing wasting his time and that letter in part read this
is a quote from that letter aqu quiddle is not enough for Rosco Arbuckle we feel that a great Injustice has been done
done to him we feel also that it was only our plain duty to give him this exoneration under the evidence for there
was not the slightest proof uced to connect him in any way with commission of a crime we wish him success and hope
that the American people will take the Judgment of 14 men and women who have sat and listened for 31 days to evidence
that Rosco Arbuckle is entirely innocent and free of all blame so at this time
like now on reflection of what happened most most likely happened to her the
biggest assumption is that she had an abortion Virginia had an abortion that didn't go well and that was the cause of
the ruptured bladder so that was that's the prevailing Theory right now nobody
thinks that this guy sat on her or anything else happened that's the only way he can make sense of what happened was basically that all that being said
Fatty's status never came back obviously this Tri wasn't cheap he was basically reduced to nothing he sold his house he
sold his cars everything everything his wife left him like he was like this guy's life was ruined basically and also
movie theaters just wouldn't show yeah they wouldn't show his films anymore so
there was a bunch of films that he made that were supposed to be released that weren't released because this happened
yeah I wrote down the people that supported him so Buster Keen was his like number one supporter like he was
very very famous they did a lot of movies together they were actually in Keystone Cops together as well and um
and he's the one who financially supported fatty during all this like
sure making $3 million even like back even today I mean back then was a ton of money but you bleed through that pretty
quickly when you have to hire all these lawyers for three trials over and over again you're not able to work and as a
result of that yeah Buster ke was the one who basically came forward and paid his expenses so he could survive
essentially that's nice he would eventually move on and would work uh in
other ways in Hollywood so he would be like a production person he would do he would do camera equipment stuff and and
all that it was basically just like charity because people who knew him were like you totally got railroaded dude
like this there was no way this should have happened to you and we need to find a way so you can make a living and this is all you really know how to do and so
that was that was it he basically did that and there's a story there that he
um on the last day he was alive he went out with a bunch of friends and he was
quoted as saying this is the best day of my life this is like years after the trial and then he ended up dying of a heart attack that night at 46 years old
again this guy was like the funny dude he was like the he was the guy you want around and everybody would say after
this happened to him he was just a shell he just walked around like just like sh of a human being like he was just
completely mentally crippled by this which like yeah yeah of course he was
like like yeah of course and at this time now the presumption is that he was
100% innocent so yeah in recent in the recent past like Hollywood is tried to
atone for what they did to him and they gave him a a star his star in the
Hollywood Walk of Fame and they've there's been multiple attempts to try to make a movie out of this so it's crazy
who take a guess that maybe one or two of the actors who were supposed to play fatty aricle that didn't is it not Chris
Farley it's in that list Chris Farley Longo yeah no it's Chris it's crazy it's
Chris Farley it's John Candy and it's John Belushi so all three of these guys were connected to do a film a biopic
about fatty article's life about this case and in his life and they all died
in like development stage yeah yeah like it's it's like a cursed movie yeah so so
I was um H I was thinking about like the red flags here like what I was like looking out for and it was like man like
I think part of it is like we gotta first off say that Virginia has no blame in this at all she never said fat her
she never said that it was all these other an story people the thing I didn't mention is that Bambino woman who did
say fatty raped her in the hospital she also before she said that called Fatty's
lawyer saying you need to send me cash otherwise I'm G to tell that them that he raped her so like that actually came
out during the trial as well that he tried she tried to Swindle money out of out of um fatty before going and saying
that this happened so like it at all yeah it sucks what happened in Virginia
but be aware be self-aware like if you're like a successful person or you're like high up like just don't put
yourself in situations where this is a possibility because this could happen um
I I was trying to think of like another case where I've seen this this isn't that common is it
because usually when it's aerous Hollywood man it's true I don't know how many times people like die it was
definitely like sexual assault cases against famous people but I can't remember anyone like being murdered or
dying because it does sound like I feel like I'm remembering stuff I've read about it like it sounds like Virginia
was sick like there's something wrong initially um and then that friend just
like wanted attention and the media just like wanted the the ad revenue and the attention like always you know and yeah
and they ruined his life like I defin I think I've listened to a couple things about it but I don't think that he did it yeah yeah yeah I mean it's it's it's
like it's almost like Bible truth I don't know if that's a word Bible that
he didn't do it yeah he didn't do it like every just like yeah of course you didn't do it but like that point the it
was like let's just destroy this guy because he's like a I mean also was this like around the Great Depression it was
like right before it I think if you're saying it's the 20s yeah it would have been 21 it's before but also like yeah
he's definitely like a rich person and everybody else is poor yeah yeah okay so 29 was a great depression so like play a
steady buildup of people like you know you're watching this guy who's making all this money and then you're broke and
yeah it's not gonna it's not going to lead to good feelings and as the 20s isn't it it's think it's prohibition
they probably like look what partying can get you yeah things like that too
yeah it's good point yeah yeah so yeah I think I think that's my take away is like yeah if you're like successful if
you're high up there like the world is just looking for a reason to knock you off that pedestal like everybody's actively trying to
disting extinguish your success so like just be careful there's also a a tiny to get
political a tiny smidge of abortion should be legal so that they can be safe
because otherwise so here's the thing Taylor like I don't actually know if abortion was illegal back then because back then medicine was basically just
like going to a barber shop and getting like s in half like that's fair it would be that again if it was illegal was
abortion illegal in 1920 oh yeah yeah oh wow so prior to 1969 abortion was punishable by life in
prison yeah wow yeah good point good point there also I mean at the same time
like I still wouldn't want to get an abortion by doctor in the 1920s like it would still sounds like it was it would be close to a death sentence but right
no I mean I mean she she had she was sick and they were like oh she's drunk like they the doctor did not help her at
all no so that's certainly part of it too yeah don't get sick in the past
don't get sick in the past another lesson yeah so yeah that's my story cool
I like it thank you I like that you did an older one I was thinking am I getting too close to history
stuff it's fine okay if I overstep you'll tell me right I'll let you know
okay we have we have boundaries okay perfect cool perfect um cool well thank
you I'm gonna maybe watch some Keystone Cops later it looked funny I Buster Keem was
in it um yeah he's funny and then one of uh Fatty's nephews was in it too and so
it's just I don't know it's just like a cool little time capsule of like the 1920s yeah totally I love it well I'm
actually going further in the future than 1920 than today I know crazy okay yeah
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