To continue our look at LGBTQ+ history let's talk about Sappho! While we cannot put modern definitions onto ancient people, we do assume that Sappho had relationships with women based on her love poems to women. She ran a school for women on the isle of Lesbos (you get it) and we are still discovering fragments of her work! Join us as Taylor reads Farz a love poem, and he says 'Sorry, I zoned out.
To continue our look at LGBTQ+ history let's talk about Sappho! While we cannot put modern definitions onto ancient people, we do assume that Sappho had relationships with women based on her love poems to women. She ran a school for women on the isle of Lesbos (you get it) and we are still discovering fragments of her work!
Join us as Taylor reads Farz a love poem, and he says 'Sorry, I zoned out.
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ITaylor's tortoise is coming on Wednesday. He is three years old
>> Taylor: In the matter of the people of State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA097.
>> Farz: And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you.
>> Taylor: Ask what you can do for your country.
>> Farz: All right, Taylor, we are back talking about how excited we are for this upcoming Halloween.
>> Taylor: I know. That was so funny. For Halloween. I'm like, okay, June. It's June. It'll happen. No, I'm looking at your weather. God, it's hot here. It's 100 degrees already today. Our tortoise is coming on Wednesday. He is not the old one that we thought we were going to get. He is a younger one. He is three years old. We are naming him the bfg, which stands for Ben Franklin's ghost.
>> Farz: Do you have a picture?
>> Taylor: I do not. The lady was like, do you want me to send you a picture? And I was like, no, this is a delay the process. And she said, it's the size of a cantaloupe.
>> Farz: Oh, that's so cute.
>> Taylor: And so we've been prepping the backyard and then we have to, like, just make sure that it's clean. And then he has to come inside at night because he's still so little. So I got. We got him like a big bin to live in. And in the bin we have a little fake burrow because he needs to practice burrowing. So we also bought him a flower pot to burrow in because they like to practice burrowing.
>> Farz: That is the cutest thing.
>> Taylor: I will have him until my death and my children will have him after my death.
>> Farz: Your great, great grandchildren are gonna have it. So you just like, this is your generational inheritance to the family bloodline.
>> Taylor: Mine was like, when you go pet, you go hard. Like, I know this one would live forever.
>> Farz: I know. It's like when people go and buy, like parrots and it's like, you realize that thing live 70 years. Like, it's.
>> Taylor: No, I know. And I. And I definitely talked about how that's stupid. And I'm here buying, not buying. I'm adopting. He lives at the zoo right now, so I think he'll really like living here. And I'm going to make him a little three point hat because he's Ben Franklin's ghost. And I can't wait.
>> Farz: I think I'm gonna start looking into the adoption procedures for a Greenland shark. Oh, yeah.
>> Taylor: Keep it in your cowboy pool out in the back.
>> Farz: Yeah, see, see, See how it does when it's 400 plus years old and Perfect.
>> Taylor: Perfect.
>> Farz: That is very cool. I'm very excited. I desperately, actually, legitimately, totally need to see pictures, live streams and everything.
>> Taylor: I think we're going to do Tik Toks together because I think that that's going to up our viewership if I do it with Ben Franklin's ghost. So of course I made a little logo of it for him. He's just. I already love him so much and he's not even here yet.
>> Farz: That's so cute. I would do it with Luna. I would do live streams with Luna, but, like, she's not cute.
>> Taylor: Yeah, I don't think he's going to make any noise. Like, he doesn't make noise. The turtle tortoises make noise. We'll find out.
>> Farz: We'll find out.
>> Taylor: Maybe his the rest of my life.
>> Farz: I like how they eat like old people, even when they're young.
>> Taylor: I know. I'm just gonna leave. I got like a stone to leave out for him and put his food on. Anyway, he's gonna be very happy.
>> Farz: Wait, what? Tomorrow you get it.
>> Taylor: Wednesday, I'm meeting the lady in a parking lot to get him.
>> Farz: He's lucky. He's, like, gonna get a good home.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Thank you.
>> Farz: That's sweet.
Doomed to Fail brings you history's most notorious disasters and epic failures
>> Taylor: Cool.
>> Farz: Do you want to introduce us?
>> Taylor: Oh, yes. Hello. Welcome to Doomed to Fail. I am Taylor, joined by Fars. My eye is twitching. I'm going to murder someone. And we bring you history's most notorious disasters and epic failures twice a week. And Pharz went earlier this week. And now it is my turn.
>> Farz: And we're going to cover a tortoise themed episode.
>> Taylor: I'm going to make him my entire personality.
>> Farz: I hope you do. That's really cool.
>> Taylor: It's going to be. I'm going to be a tortoise mom.
>> Farz: I've always been between us, I've always associated our differences. Here is like, you're the human loving side of the spectrum and I'm the animal loving side of the spectrum.
>> Taylor: I know.
>> Farz: And like, you're showing tremendous growth because I have not come to your side. I'm still on the animal side. But you have you actually not even. I was gonna say you segued into the animal side, but you didn't even segue. You went, like, off the deep end. You didn't even start with a gerbil.
>> Taylor: No, we did have a. We had a betta fish for a little bit, but he died, so barely counts, but yes. Yeah, I mean, I cleaned his tank a lot and, like, took care of him.
>> Farz: I'm sorry.
>> Taylor: You're sorry? What?
>> Farz: I'm sorry for your loss.
>> Taylor: Thank you. It was sad.
>> Farz: Anyway, I'm being serious.
>> Taylor: Thank you.
Ben Franklin's ghost comes on Wednesday
So, yes, Ben Franklin's ghost comes on Wednesday. I can't wait for him to be a big part of our social media strategy and the rest of my life. Like, we are going to get to an Airbnb and we have to bring it with us.
>> Farz: I hope so. I mean, you could take it like.
>> Taylor: I know we do, but I. Yeah, I'm like, put him in a bin and take him and then he'll be like, let me put him out in the sun. Let him, let him sunbathe for a little bit during the day.
>> Farz: It's me. So cute when he's like £175 and you bring him on the flight with you and you get him like two, like a whole row.
>> Taylor: I know. I told you that. I was like imagining myself when we had that fire, like evacuating, carrying this like 100 pound tortoise. Be like, we have to go, ah.
>> Farz: That'S gonna be tough. Do you know how big they actually do get this. This version?
>> Taylor: No big.
>> Farz: Do you know what kind? With the species of tortoises.
>> Taylor: It's a desert tortoise. Is that a species? Does a desert tortoise get Dinosaur tortoises grow to be 9 to 15 inches long and between 4 to 6 inches high. They can weigh between 8 to 15 pounds. They're not going to be a small cat.
>> Farz: Like a spark. Yeah, okay.
>> Taylor: Yeah, yeah.
>> Farz: So cute. Look at that little. Look at. Oh, my God. There's a picture of it coming out of his shell. Oh, my God.
>> Taylor: Yeah, it's going to be just almost a picture of one of them smiling. It's going to be wild. You know, we've been watching. I'm sorry, everyone. We've been watching. It's a great show on Netflix called Camp Cretaceous and it's about kids who are in camp at Jurassic World. When Jurassic World goes down. It's wonderful. But in the last season, most recent season, they get a little Ankylosaurus, like a baby. And this is kind of the same thing because I was like, I would get a baby Ankylosaurus. Like, it's little and it kind of looks like a tortoise without a shell. And he's not gonna grab to be a full size Ankylosaurus because that's not a thing.
>> Farz: So, yeah, it's more manageable. You know what, Taylor? This is going to be a topic of discussion for the next, like six years, I think.
>> Taylor: What, Ben Franklin's ghost?
>> Farz: Yeah. Me and you talking about this because it is exciting.
>> Taylor: He will be here literally forever. So I'll bring him to your funeral.
>> Farz: What do they. I'm looking up. They legit live between 50 and 80 years.
>> Taylor: I actually like literally have to call my financial advisor and change my will.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: Because I don't have any bets in it. Anyway, that's not what we're talking about, but we will definitely be talking about it a lot.
>> Farz: If you die, I would take him.
>> Taylor: Oh, thank you.
>> Farz: Yeah, I already love him.
>> Taylor: Thanks. Very fun. Cool. Cute.
I want you to picture ancient Greece for Pride Month
Okay. Anyway, hello. I wrote it's still Pride Month, despite the horrors outside. So I had another Pride Month story to tell you.
>> Farz: Okay, what do you got?
>> Taylor: I wanted to go back into ancient times and talk about the mother of all lesbians, Sappho.
>> Farz: Have you heard of her? I have no idea who that is.
>> Taylor: Great. Well, we're going to go all the way back. This is ancient Greece. So I want you to picture ancient Greece. Like you are sitting outside and there are pillars everywhere and someone. You're wearing a toga and someone is playing a lyre, which I think is like a harp, and singing a poem to you. And you're wearing sandals. I say sandals. You have sandals on. You're eating grapes. Like this is what we're picturing.
>> Farz: I'm there.
>> Taylor: This is. This is it. You're there. There's wine in like jugs, lamb, probably all the things. So Sappho was a. Is a poet, a lyrical poet from about. She was born in 630 B.C. to well, well to do parents on the island of Lesbos, which is part of Greece.
Leso is an island that is all the way east in Turkey
So have you been to Greece?
>> Farz: No. No.
>> Taylor: It looks so pretty. It does. So the way that Greece is, it is like attached to Europe, but also it is a ton of islands. And Leso is an island that is all the way east almost in Turkey, which is like a wild place to be because that is where conflict is literally always. So let's suppose has been through some considering where it's located. So people have lived there since at least 3000 B.C. so there's evidence that people live there for a very long time. Shepherds and people who lived in caves. In classical times, like in ancient Greece, it had five really big cities. One was destroyed by an earthquake, one was destroyed by the Romans. After Cyrus the Great came through, it was owned and operated by the Persians. I don't know why I said it like that, but the Persians had it. Then it went back to Greece. Then the Romans came and then it belonged to Rome. Then in The Middle Ages, it belonged to the Byzantine Empire, then to the Ottoman Empire, because just like in the middle of all of these conflicts and all these wars, it's just like constantly changing. In 1912, there was a big battle there for the First Balkan War, which I didn't know. I don't know anything about the first Balkan War, but that was. There's a battle there for that. After World War I and the Greco Turkish War, which is another war, the. The ownership came. The Ottoman Empire left and all of the Muslims left as well. So then it became mostly Greek Christians, like it was before the Ottoman Empire. Also, another thing that I did not know about is a lot of Greek people moved to Lesbos in the. In the early 1900s because of the Greek genocide, which is when the Christian Ottoman Greek population of Anatolia was systematically killed during World War I and its aftermath based on their religion because they wanted them out of there. So I did not know that. A lot of people left because of that. And then it was occupied by the Nazis until Greece was liberated in 1944. So it's always like, something happening around this very strategic spot.
>> Farz: Yeah. Very colorful history.
>> Taylor: Yeah. So obviously Lesbos is the origin of the word lesbian as well, because of Sappho and her having lived there. Also, the word Sapphic is used to describe, like, women romantically together, and that comes from her name.
>> Farz: Really? Is that where Sephardic comes from?
>> Taylor: Sephardic, Yeah, I guess that word, it's.
>> Farz: It's. It's a type of Judaism, kind of like how they're Sunni and Shiite.
>> Taylor: No.
>> Farz: Okay. It has nothing to do with that.
>> Taylor: Nothing to do with that. No. I don't think there's Jewish people in the story at all. So because you say no, it's. It's Sappho. So, like Sapphic, not Sephardic.
>> Farz: Got it.
>> Taylor: Okay, cut that out. That we thought it's stupid.
>> Farz: So thanks for saying we.
>> Taylor: We did, both of us. So we know very little about her, truly. And again, this is like, this is ancient history. She's, you know, being born 600 B.C. like, there are, you know, this is ancient history. You have to believe it kind of stuff. Like, we don't know. We know very, very little about her in her life. She may have had some brothers, she may have had a child, but she definitely wrote poetry about women and loving women, possibly some men as well. So there's a lot of, like, debate about her sexuality, but, like, the answer is we can't put a modern label on her, you know, like, who. Who knows? Exactly what it was. But we know that she really existed and really wrote these poems. So what we know about her also comes from, like, fragments of her poetry. Literally, it's on clay and, like, found on papyrus and stuff. Found, like, centuries after she lived. So it's hard to, like, learn about a real person from their poetry. Like, is it autobiographical? I don't know. Like, she never said if it was or wasn't anywhere. We just have it. So I'm not sure. But what about her life in ancient Greece? She ran a school for girls. Like, girls and young women, where she taught them music and dance and, like, etiquette, probably. They all came from rich families. And what we can imagine is a place where women were allowed to, like, show love for each other in different ways. So, like, there were, you know, there's stories of, like, intense attachments and jealousy from the girls, just, like, you know, having a little girlfriend. And you know what? It reminded me a lot of the school that Eleanor Roosevelt went to in England. I know we talked about that, like, years ago, but, like, she went to a school for girls and, like, the head teacher was definitely lesbian, and a lot of the girls had crushes on her. Like, one of the girls wrote a book about it. There was definitely, like, little girlfriend things happening there. Just like, a really intense, like, place to have relationships. Does that make sense?
>> Farz: Reminds me more of the nunnery. That woman who killed her husband and then. Oh, yeah. Killed an old nun and ran off with another woman.
>> Taylor: It's like, a place for women to, like, be together. So it's similar.
We only have 650 fragments of her poetry. So it's a lot
It's probably similar to what we know about, like, ancient Greek men would have relationships where it was, like, a young man and an older man, and it would be, like, a mentor relationship, but also a sexual relationship.
>> Farz: Yeah, it's a little fraught.
>> Taylor: Yeah. So it's a lot. Yeah. So that's probably what was going on. Now, one example that we don't know about her life, that's like, a debated thing, is she might have had a child named Cleese that might have been a girl. But in the poem that she wrote, she calls this person Cleese, her beloved. So that could mean a child. It could also mean a girlfriend. It could also mean a whatever. Like, there's just no way to interpret it or figure out exactly what it is and what it means.
>> Farz: Right.
>> Taylor: But that person existed. Some texts in history say that she was married to a man named Curculus of Andros, which literally translates to p**** from man island.
>> Farz: They're very literal Well, I don't think.
>> Taylor: I think that that means that he's not real. Oh, it's like saying, like, yeah, my boyfriend lives in, you know, Broville, and his name is Strong McStrong Face Max Power. Yeah, exactly. So that's like. That's probably. Probably was a joke. We do know that she wrote 10,000 lines of poetry, but we only have 650. And we know that because she. A lot of her work was written into anthologies, and there were, like, books about her and, like, books that were. That were like. Of her. Of her poems, but they got lost kind of like in the beginning of, you know, the beginning of the. The CE times. There might have been some, like, in Alexandria, things like that, but it kind of went out of fashion. Like, her. The dialect of Greek that she used wasn't popular anymore, and people just kind of didn't want to buy it anymore, so they stopped making it. So it's like a business, you know, I think that might account for a lot of things that are missing, because, like, if it's popular, people are going to keep copying it, you know, and keep selling it and all of that. But if it's not, then it's going to get lost.
>> Farz: Right.
>> Taylor: You know, which makes. I feel like that makes a lot of sense. So there's also rumors that in 1073, the pope destroyed a lot of her work because it was scandalous. And then again in 1550, there's rumors that a lot of it was burned then as well, but we really don't know. Some of it is, like, literally just, like, a couple words, and somehow we know that she wrote them. So, like, there's, like, one fragment. It just. It's so interesting because they, like. There's people who have just, like, little pieces of this, and, like, that is their job, to, like, analyze it. And so this is fragment 169A, and it just says wedding gifts. Like, what does that mean? I don't know.
>> Farz: I mean, they probably know from, like, how it was written, the style, what it was written on.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Where it was found. Like, they probably do some of that stuff.
>> Taylor: Totally. And it's actually something super interesting. So there is a thing where. And I have never seen this with, like, ancient sites before, but I've seen on, like, Instagram or on the Internet, people who get permission to search land in, like, England that used to be a Victorian garbage dump, and they find cool s*** all the time. Like, cool bottles and, like, buttons and, like, doll heads and just, like, it's so cool. I wish I Had a Victorian landfill to rummage through.
>> Farz: Dude, that was like, the coolest part about when I was in Lisbon a few years ago. And you're just walking through the city and it's all normal buildings, and then you're like, inside, like, on the side, like, there's like, ancient ruins buried, like, 50ft below you. And they're like. Yeah, we were like, knocking over this building to build. Swing you on it. And it's part of. Part of trying to dig out the foundation dirt. They found, like, this old, like, I don't know what it was, amphitheater or something. And like, just sitting there and now it's, like, preserved forever. It's, like, really fun.
>> Taylor: I love that. Yeah, that's so cool. So in the end of the 19th century, people started to excavate an ancient rubbish dump in Greece that led to a lot of things. So, like, they got to go to, like, an ancient Greek garbage dump and find things. And they did find things. People have found some of her poetry as, like recently as 2014, there was a poem called the Brothers that was not previously known that can be attributed to Sappho. Isn't that cool?
>> Farz: Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, Ancient history is wild.
>> Taylor: What am I supposed to. What is this? So 1. A couple pieces and other fragments that I think are fun are. One said, quote, I grow old and my hair turns white. I often groan, but what can I do? Relatable.
>> Farz: We all feel that.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Another one is quote, someone will remember us, I say, even in another time. Which I think is cool.
>> Farz: My bones grown. Which is probably not a good sign.
>> Taylor: I know Plato called her the tenth muse. Maximus of Tyre, compared her to Socrates for her teaching. So she was just, like, really popular in her day. And then we're continuing to learn stuff about her.
Sappho writes a beautiful poem to Aphrodite
So of course I'm going to read you the one full poem that we have of hers that I thought I had up and I do. Okay. It is called the Ode to Aphrodite. You ready?
>> Farz: Yes.
>> Taylor: Okay, I'm going to try to go slow, everyone. For my best ornate throned immortal Aphrodite, while weaving, daughter of Zeus, I entreat you do not overpower my heart, mistress, with ache and anguish. But come here. If ever in the past you heard my voice from afar and acquiesced and came, leaving your father's golden house with chariot yoked beautiful swift sparrows whirring fast beating wings brought you above the dark earth, down from heaven, through the mid air. And soon they arrived and you blessed one with a Smile on your immortal face asked what was the matter with me this time and why I was calling this time? And what in my maddened heart I most wish to happen for myself? Whom am I to persuade this time to lead you back to her love who wrongs you, Sappho? If she runs away, soon she shall pursue. If she does not accept gifts, why she shall give them instead. And if she does not love, soon she shall love even against her will. Come to me now again and deliver me from oppressive anxieties. Fulfill all that my heart longs to fulfill. You yourself be my fellow fighter.
>> Farz: You just took me back to years and years and years ago when you said your biggest hope for your children is that none of them will be a poet.
>> Taylor: We talk about it all the time.
>> Farz: It's like, like, sure, I heard everything you said. I'm sure it's beautiful and lovely. It's also just like. It's like life isn't like. There's something egomaniacal about poetry that just drives me nuts. It's like. It's like if you just throw enough. We all know the words, like, chess. Do what? You know what? I'm done. I'm done.
>> Taylor: Well, if you listen to it again when you're editing it, I think it's very. Also very relatable because she's, like, asking Aphrodite to help some. Someone love her. And everybody's like, we've done this before. Who is it now? You know, like, who's breaking your heart now? Why are you crying again?
>> Farz: Just go drink something and, like, throw a rock at the ocean. Like, it's fine.
>> Taylor: I'm sure that she did both those things, actually living on an island and being preachers. Olive at a tree. I don't know. So that was that. That's the only poem that we have.
Sappho was exiled to Sicily in 600 for some reason
I also, in this, wanted to tell you that one of the first, probably the person who wrote down first the term, it's all Greek to me, was Shakespeare. I don't know if you knew that.
>> Farz: Seriously?
>> Taylor: Yeah, because I actually learned that in the who Was show. That show that the kids show on Netflix. But in the play Julius Caesar, Cassius says, did Cicero say anything? And Casca says, aye, he spoke Greek. And Cassia says, to what effect? And then Casca says, a bunch of other stuff, but he says, my own part, it was Greek to me. Like, I couldn't understand it because it was literally Greek. And then that just, like, became a thing.
>> Farz: Oh, wow. Yeah. Never knew that.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was fun. So in the year 600, Sappho was exiled to Sicily for some reason. It's probably because something with like, political upheaval and being in their families. Like another poet of the time, Alakaeus, he was exiled as well during this period. And then she was able to later go back to Lesbos. And then the rumor is that she died by jumping off a cliff because a man broke her heart. But that is probably not true. But the way the reason that that is famous is because in like the Roman era, after the Greek era, they wrote like comedy plays about her. And some of them, they would try to like, you know, make her seem she wasn't in these, like, relationships that she was in these, like, heterosexual relationships. They said that she was hopelessly in love with a beautiful ferryman and he didn't love her, so she jumped off the Lucidian cliffs. But that's probably not too. Not true. It's probably meant to mock the passionate style of her poetry and to say, like. Like you were saying, like, oh, she's too emotional.
>> Farz: I mean, is anybody wrong?
>> Taylor: I mean, we know what happened to, like, Sylvia Plath, you know, I don't. She stuck her head in an oven and died of gas.
>> Farz: And she was a poet.
>> Taylor: Yes.
>> Farz: Like, okay, yeah. These people are so obnoxious. I feel like they all would live in like Williamsburg right now.
>> Taylor: Oh, 100.
>> Farz: And like, while they're having, like avocado toast and like a fourteen dollar coffee, be like, low is me. Whoa. It's just like, God, I hate you people.
>> Taylor: I have a hundred. I would too. There's like one person, I don't not know her name, who was like an aspiring singer and like someone's brother that I knew was like a manager of her or something. We went to her, like, exactly that, like, Williamsburg apartment. And it was just like, it was like a movie. Like, the whole apartment was like, you know, there's sheets everywhere, like tapestries everywhere. And then like, everybody was like jamming on, like instruments together. It was just like, exactly that, you.
>> Farz: Know, like, you're so annoying. It's so annoying because, like, they wouldn't be that way but for the privileges that life gave them. Yet they don't recognize that and see themselves as beleaguered. Whereas, like, regular people are like, oh, I have to go to work today, even though this person next, or whatever, like, somebody in my family has cancer.
>> Taylor: Like, right.
>> Farz: It's like they have, like, harder things to actually overcome.
>> Taylor: And I think, I think that that is a really good point. And exactly what Sappho was. She was rich, you know, and I forgot that part. She had the time to. To do this. And I think a lot of the people that we talk about are rich. Like Mary Shelley, you know, like, they just like had the time to wallow. Yeah, yeah. Which is interesting. Anyway, that's it.
>> Farz: That's it. She just threw herself off a cliff.
>> Taylor: Maybe she's definitely died because she was born, you know, 2,000 years ago.
>> Farz: I am going to, when we hang up, ask ChatGPT to pull a list of every, like, famous poet and then every famous poet who we know died by suicide. I bet it's going to be a 50, 50 list.
>> Taylor: Yeah, it's probably a lot.
>> Farz: Probably authors too, because a lot of them just drink themselves to death.
>> Taylor: That's true. I wonder why that's what Dorothy Parker did. I don't know.
>> Farz: Yeah, weird. Maybe it's because we just know the most famous ones, like Bukowski, you know, like, or what was that one guy, the one that Johnny Depp is best friends with or was. And he threw his.
>> Taylor: Oh, yeah, Fear and loathing loathing guy. Yeah, yeah.
>> Farz: Weird.
>> Taylor: I don't know. Anyway, anyway, that's the story.
>> Farz: Lessons are being learned. Sweet.
Taylor, you win coconut debate because Miles likes them
Okay, get to the coconuts.
>> Taylor: Okay, so you win coconut debate because, well, Miles likes them. Juan says, is it kind of on the fence? But then Justin emailed in and he likes them, so you win. I think it's like four to three.
>> Farz: I would have assumed it would be a big, bigger victory than that, but I'll. I'll take it.
>> Taylor: Anyone? If everyone else wants to join, you can always email us due to philpotta gmail.com. are coconuts good raw Eating them. We'll talk about it forever. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Ben Franklin's ghost. It'll be. It'll be amazing.
>> Farz: Taylor, I just sent you a Facebook group for desert. Desert tortoise enthusiast while you were talking. Because I joined the group and they asked me why I want to join the group and I was like, because my friend is getting a desert tortoise. I want to know everything about them.
>> Taylor: That is perfect. I will join. I'll be like, I'm the friend. I'm sure that these are the two things from today.
>> Farz: I'm a soon to be enthusiast.
>> Taylor: A lot of them I'm getting. Do you currently keep. I'm about to. I'm about to. Fun.
>> Farz: This one's eating a little flower. Nom, nom, nom nom. Oh my goodness. They're so cute.
>> Taylor: He Just look like an old man until he is an old. An old man. And then dispute.
>> Farz: Oh, no. Did one get hurt? A poor baby.
>> Taylor: I'm gonna feed him vegetables.
>> Farz: Oh, no.
>> Taylor: Gonna be cute.
>> Farz: I guess a dog can chew on him and kill them. Oh, God.
>> Taylor: Yeah. That happened to someone I know.
>> Farz: G, that's horrible.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Oh, wait, I hear someone who has a 100 pound one. I guess maybe he will get bigger.
>> Farz: I mean, it's all genetic, right?
>> Taylor: Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It's so funny. I just. I cannot imagine me taking him, like, to the vet. It's gonna be so funny.
>> Farz: Do you have a vet that'll see him?
>> Taylor: I'm sure we do. Well, I think. Well, he's coming from the zoo, and.
>> Farz: The zoo's gotta have vet service.
>> Taylor: The zoo. I think I'll probably take him back.
>> Farz: Okay. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, sweet. Well, thank you for sharing all the things, all the stories and. Yeah, I guess we don't have any more lists or mail.
>> Taylor: No, that's it.
>> Farz: All right. That was. That was a good one. I won.
>> Taylor: You did? Congratulations. Oh, my God. These are. I'm just. Okay, I'm just gonna look at pictures of tortoises now. Okay, great. Thank you, everyone, for listening. Go. Go Google tortoises.
>> Farz: Or go adopt one if you have the ability to keep one for a very long time. Don't be one of those people that gets it and gets rid of it because it's mean. So sweet. Well, thanks, Taylor. We'll go ahead and cut things off there.
>> Taylor: Cool.