Today (amongst Heated rivalry chatter), we're talking the FBI's most wanted! The list, which is more publicity than anything, was started by who else but J. Edgar Hoover! We highlight three current fugatives who go in and out of the top ten. Crypto Queen Ruja Ignatova ran a scam called OneCoin - then she boarded a RyanAir flight and disappeared! Crappy husband Robert William Fisher murdered his family in Scottsdale, AZ - he then blew up the house and escaped into a national forest (we're hoping he's dead in a cave somewhere). And! Canadian Olympic Snowboarder Ryan James Wedding went from competing on the slopes to running Mexico's biggest cartel. He's scary.
Today (amongst Heated rivalry chatter), we're talking the FBI's most wanted! The list, which is more publicity than anything, was started by who else but J. Edgar Hoover! We highlight three current fugatives who go in and out of the top ten.
Crypto Queen Ruja Ignatova ran a scam called OneCoin - then she boarded a RyanAir flight and disappeared!
Crappy husband Robert William Fisher murdered his family in Scottsdale, AZ - he then blew up the house and escaped into a national forest (we're hoping he's dead in a cave somewhere).
And! Canadian Olympic Snowboarder Ryan James Wedding went from competing on the slopes to running Mexico's biggest cartel. He's scary.
Taylor: Our AI is that we use regularly to generate images
>> Taylor: In the matter of the people of State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA097.
>> Farz: And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. Brain is just not. Not doing its thing today, unfortunately. Hi, Taylor. How are you?
>> Taylor: Good. How are you?
>> Farz: I'm good. Taylor and I had the funnest exchange this weekend about asking. Our AI is that we use regularly to generate images based on how we treat it.
>> Taylor: And.
>> Farz: Rachel, my girlfriend, I've never laughed.
>> Taylor: So hard in my life.
>> Farz: It was a little robot in the corner of an empty room, sitting, hugging its knees, crying, with signs all over it saying, you're not good enough. Do better, and stuff. Like, it's. It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. And ever since then, she'll talk to the AI and I can hear her, and she'll be like, hi, I hope you're having a great morning. I really love you. Now, tell me, what do you think about this? That's fantastic. It's, like, so funny. I think it really hurt our feelings when we showed her ours, Right?
>> Taylor: And it's like, you're very nice to me. We're like, of course we are. Because we don't want to get murdered in the robot uprising.
>> Farz: We're like a team. Yeah.
>> Taylor: And B, we're like. We're. We're just generally nice. Yeah, I know. And, like, it's funny because, like, I always, you know, obviously people, all people are like, f*** AI, And I just cannot express how much my AI is not the problem.
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah.
>> Taylor: Like, we're just hanging out. Like, we're just trying our best to survive. It's so hard.
>> Farz: We're all. We're all just too into Terminator, and we think about it as like a documentary when it doesn't have to be that way.
>> Taylor: I mean, it's going to, like, probably destroy the planet, but, like, we were doing that anyway.
>> Farz: I'm fine with that. I mean, I don't have kids, so.
>> Taylor: I do, but I don't. I mean, they're strong.
>> Farz: They're strong.
>> Taylor: Yeah. I think that they're.
Taylor: I think desalinization is definitely not impossible in an apocalypse
Okay, cool.
>> Farz: If you want to introduce us.
>> Taylor: Yes. Hello. Welcome to Doomed to Fail. We bring you historical disasters and failures, and I am Taylor, joined by fars.
>> Farz: We are joined here for a Taylor story, which should be very exciting.
>> Taylor: It is. It is exciting. Let me find it. Where did it even go? this was suggested by Miles, my strong son, who is almost nine and I think will be fine. In an apocalypse situation. I mean, not like we're not in it. I also saw something today about how, like, a lot of, like, desalinization is, like, definitely not impossible. It's not the point of the story. But I'm just that, like, reminded me of an apocalyptic thing where, like, maybe we can do that and not run out of water and that'd be like a good start.
>> Farz: No, I don't think it's impossible. I think the problem is that it has to be on the coast because water's super, super, super heavy and. And transporting it is impossible.
>> Taylor: Totally. At least we could do that.
>> Farz: The AI can.
>> Taylor: Right? That's what I wanted to do. Do stuff like that.
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah. Solve those problems.
>> Taylor: Solve those problems. And I think that the good use of technology.
Bill Johnson: I think we just caught somebody on the FBI most wanted list
Anyway, this is my old idea. So he asked me a very fun question. He asked me who was on the FBI's top 10 most wanted list.
>> Farz: Oh, that's fun.
>> Taylor: And I said, I don't know. So we looked it up and there is a whole bunch of stuff that I'll tell you about it. And I'm going to highlight three of them who are on the list.
>> Farz: I think. I think we just caught somebody on the FBI top wanted list.
>> Taylor: Did we?
>> Farz: Yeah, I think. I think I saw that, like, this weekend or something. Also, I was kind of disappointed by who ends up on the wanted list because it's. There's not. Thank God. There's not that many, like, insanely criminal people in the world. Like, there's only one. Like, there was only one Osama bin Laden, you know?
>> Taylor: Right.
>> Farz: And all the other ones are like, they're just guilty of, like, you're.
>> Taylor: You. God. Next time I come back and to the world as a new person, it's going to be better because I'm so close to being on top of things, you know, it just happened. It just happened. Like something. No, no, but I mean, like, why was I thinking about this and then this just happened. Like, I'm so close. Like, current Taylor isn't going to do it. Maybe the next iteration of me can do it.
>> Farz: You're plugged in. You just don't know it.
>> Taylor: You just don't know it a little bit better. I know. I gotta figure it out. I'll ask AI. Just kidding. Well, you are correct. Someone. Someone. FBI's most wanted fugitive captured in Mexico after nearly a decade on the run. That's awesome. So this had. This literally just happened in November. This person is not on my list. And I'm literally reading an article From Greenville, South Carolina News. But it says Alejandro Alex Rosales Castillo was charged with first degree murder after a woman was found the gunshot wound at the head in North Carolina in 2016. And they found him. Wow.
>> Farz: Well, that's my point. My point is like, it's weird how somebody ends up on the list because a lot of them are like, somebody robbed a 71115 years ago and shot the Clark.
>> Taylor: It's true. And a lot of them are like, a lot of the top ones are cyber crimes, you know. Yeah, it's like Russians and. And you know, Chinese people who are like trying to hack into our mainframe, which they can easily do, like, whatever that means. So yeah, a lot of it is that it is definitely like it's in flux all the time. Like the top 10 keeps like moving up and down in. This is the official, like FBI list that is like the top 10. And it started in 1949 because a reporter from the international news service which was like, I just feel like, like someone talking like, you know what I mean?
>> Farz: Yeah, of course they all like that.
>> Taylor: Which was owned by William Randolph Hearst. Of course. They asked the FBI to name the toughest guys they were trying to catch. And J. Edgar Hoover was like, that sounds fun. People will love that. So he's the one obviously started the list because he understand stood like the optics of it and that would be exciting. Yeah, exactly. So it's basically a marketing tool, but it also has like, technically worked. Like 90% of people who've been on it have been caught like they were looking for them anyway. But also like, when the public can get involved or feel like they're involved, that's also super fun for everyone, you know. So it officially launched on March 14, 1950. And like, yeah, I was literally looking at the top 10 list today and there were two people who already captured. One was this person from this weekend. And there's another person who's captured too. So they have to like move it around. But like, it is wild that people are like, can commit a crime and disappear these days.
>> Farz: Yeah. Well, I think that's why it's cool when it's like some insane drug cartel guy. Because you're like, okay. They actually. That feels like a fun cat and mouse game. When it's like Bill Johnson shot someone in the face and then like left for Costa Rica. It's like, ah, do we.
>> Taylor: Yeah, like, I don't know. I don't know.
>> Farz: I guess that was fun. That guy doesn't have a layer.
>> Taylor: Yeah, totally. Exactly. One of these Guys definitely has a layer that I'm gonna tell you about. Sweet.
Ruya Ignatova is internationally wanted for running a crypto scam
So the first person is a woman. Her name is Ruya Ignatova, and she is a crypto queen and ran a crypto scam. So Ria Ignatova, she is internationally wanted. And a lot of these also have cool words in it, like Interpol.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: Which is fun. Like that. That's real. So Ria was born in 1980 in Sofia, Bulgaria, and she moved to Germany after the Iron Curtain fell. So she did, like, high school and college in Germany. And she's super smart. She had her PhD in 2006 in private international law, and she got a master's from Oxford. She worked for McKinsey in Bulgaria. And, you know people who work for McKinsey.
>> Farz: I'm not going to say anything, but I know what you're talking about.
>> Taylor: You know, like, they. You know, because they tell you.
>> Farz: Yes. And the way they think and the things they think about and what they prioritize.
>> Taylor: Exactly.
>> Farz: Their brains and their mannerisms and their personalities and their tone.
>> Taylor: I wrote that at. And Bain. People who work at Bain. That's the first thing they're going to tell you. Yeah. So there's that. In 2012, her and her father were arrested in Bulgaria for buying a company and then declaring back bankruptcy really quickly, which was, like, definitely, like, suspicious circumstances. And they went to. They both went to jail for 14 months. In 2013, she was involved in a scam called Big Coin. This is like, when, like, bitcoin is, like, just starting and, like, cryptocurrency is just starting. And then in 2014, she founded her own company called OneCoin. So it's one word, one coin. She said it was better than bitcoin. It was safer. It could, like, guarantee, like, bigger returns. All the things. All you had to do was, like, wire money into an account and it would just, like, start growing for you, but it never existed. It's exactly a Ponzi scheme. Like, we talked about Ponzi. Like, you would if you wanted to take your money out. It was other people's money. Like, it was just money in the bank. It was never investing in anything. There was no blockchain. There was no coin. There was nothing. It was just her taking the money.
>> Farz: To be fair, that's also very similar to current cryptos.
>> Taylor: That's true. So one of the things that they would do is they would sell these, like, educational packages that, like, they made a lot of money from that, like, wasn't the investment money to teach people how to Invest in Bitcoin. And when people got it, it was just, like, literally copy and pasted from Wikipedia.
>> Farz: Also sounds like the current manosphere where everybody's a personal trainer, guru.
>> Taylor: Exactly, exactly. So some rich people lost millions of dollars when it was, like, discovered that it really wasn't real. A lot of, like, not rich people invested in it too. Like, from all over the world, like Pakistan, Brazil, China. People in Uganda invested in it and lost their homes. Like, she. They, like, had, like, a big reach into a lot of different places and all different kinds of investments. But like I say, investment as in, like, they were just giving her money. Yeah, yeah. So it was like, basically money laundering so she could have more money. On October 25, 2017, Ruya was supposed go to a one coin investors meeting in Lisbon. But instead she boarded a Ryanair flight, which you don't do if you're up to good stuff, you know, and she got off at Athens and she has not been seen since. That was in 2017. So her brother is in jail. He got like, 20 years in jail for being a part of this, this whole thing. The one Coin office has obviously been raided. And, you know, they. Everything. You know, other people are in jail as well because it was obviously the whole time it was a scam. There. Some, like, other, like, interesting mob connections. Like a Bulgarian mobster was like, talking to, like, the international police. And they were like, we can. I can help. I know where she is. But he was killed before he could help them. So, like, who knows what happened to him? It could have been something else, but who knows? Currently, the award for her capture is $5 million. She or the reward. She has a daughter that was born in 2016 who lives with her, the daughter's father, in Germany. Because Rhea is married to a German lawyer who presumably, like, is not in jail and lives in Germany with her daughter in 2022. The FBI said that they're operating under the assumption that she is alive, but there was a rumor that she was murdered because a drunk Bulgarian hitman told someone, like, under, like, who was undercover, that he killed her on a yacht in 2018 by orders of a drug lord and disnumbered her and threw her over.
>> Farz: I mean, that also seems plausible.
>> Taylor: That also seems super plausible.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: Like, that's part of it, too, is like, at some point you're like, I don't know. They're probably dead. You know, considering that's why what they.
>> Farz: Want you to think. Anyways, I know. Maybe she passed along that rumor.
There's something about Eastern Europeans that scares me
>> Taylor: Yeah, it could be anything. She could be just, like, living in, like, a beautiful little house in Athens and be like, you.
>> Farz: There's something about Eastern Europeans that scares me. Like, I don't know why, but, like, have you ever seen them? Eastern promises? Do you ever see that? Okay, it's. It's really good movie, but it's, like, all Eastern mafia stuff, and it's like, yeah, really, really scary.
>> Taylor: There's so much going on over there that, like, we don't, like. I don't. I don't know about, you know, obviously. And, like, yeah, it is scary. Well, I also am thinking about Russia all the time because I can't stop thinking about heated rivalry.
>> Farz: So I'm just now hearing. I literally just heard about this yesterday because VOX did a podcast about it, and I listened to it, and I was like, this seems to be really popular.
>> Taylor: Jesus Christ. It's like, I. I have watched the show. I read the book. I, like, I'm gonna watch it again with Juan. It's just. I just can't. It's too much. It's too much.
>> Farz: Anyway, you're one of those people that likes to feel things. That's. That's the problem, I think.
>> Taylor: I don't feel, like, in, like, a weird way. Like, I feel. I want to feel with my media. I want to feel scared. Like, I want to watch scary movies and, like, feel scared. I don't want to watch, like, a romantic movie where there's, like, a lot of, like, ups and downs and, like, whatever. Like, I don't watch the Notebook again. Like, I'd never watch that twice. You know, stuff like that. But, like, I do enjoy these, like, romantic books because I like when people have, like. Well, I was trying. Don and I were explaining it to my husband, and we were like, it's like enemies to lovers where there's dragons and it's super fun. He was like, okay, okay.
>> Farz: So my. My toxic trait is that if I'm rewatching a show and there's, like, a romantic subplot, I fast forward the romantic subplot.
>> Taylor: That's amazing. And. And.
>> Farz: And then today I read. I literally just forgot the name of the hockey show. What's it called again?
>> Taylor: Heated. Heated Rivalry.
>> Farz: Heated rivalry. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. I. I read the synopsis on Wikipedia of it, and I was like, I would. I would have to fast forward this whole thing. This is all just, like, romantic entanglements.
>> Taylor: All romantic entanglements. And it's so good, and I love it so much. I don't know what to do.
>> Farz: We're Very different in that way.
>> Taylor: I know. Well, it's like. And it's also like the Internet. Like, my whole algorithm is now heated rivalry. So I'm like, I can't escape.
>> Farz: This is why Jurassic park was literally the best movie that was ever made. There was literally no romantic subplot. There's none. I mean, Jeff Goldblum was a little creepy for, like, three seconds. And then they find the triceratops, and everything just stops and it goes back to being a monster story.
>> Taylor: But they're like, but Dr. Grant and what's her face are definitely dating.
>> Farz: They're dating. But there was no, like, oh, my God. I'll save you. Oh, my God.
>> Taylor: Like, it was.
>> Farz: It was nothing. Like, all.
>> Taylor: No, I know. I also think it's the best movie ever for, like, a bunch of freedom.
>> Farz: Thank you.
>> Taylor: Burgering. I don't know why you're yelling at me.
>> Farz: Is this. Is this a story about the FBI place?
>> Taylor: I. Okay. I think I get, like, three more weeks of thinking about haters. Then I need to, like, figure something else out. Like, I need to, like, adjust. Like, now that the Bears lost, I need to, like, also readjust my personal algorithm.
>> Farz: I just watched adolescence, and it made me in a mood and sad, and I'm. That's why I don't watch shows like that.
>> Taylor: I don't watch anything sad, that's for sure. It was, like, romantic tension. You should watch it anyway.
Robert William Fisher murdered his family on April 9, 2001
That's why I'm like, if I heard. If I heard a Russian mobster speaking in a Russian accent, I'd be like, hey, you know, at the moment, but it's only because a feeder referee, that will change eventually. So I got another guy. Robert William Fisher is a piece of s***, and he murdered his family. So he was born on April 13, 1961, in Brooklyn. He. His parents got divorced when he was a teenager, and he moved to Arizona with his dad. And he's his whole life. He kind of, like, blamed his mom for leaving them and was very much like, like, a women hater kind of guy. His mom later in, like, the news said that, like, her marriage to his dad was terrible, and she had to be like. She was like a yes, sir. She described it as being a yes, sir wife. Like, he, like, definitely abused her. And that's the kind of man that the son, Robert William Fisher, kind of grew into as well. He joined the Navy and was rejected from the Navy seals. I don't know why, but, like, I feel like that's.
>> Farz: Most people are rejected for the Navy seals.
>> Taylor: Yeah. He became a firefighter, but he hurt his back, so he wasn't able to do that anymore. And he became a surgical catheter tech and respiratory therapist at the Mayo Clinic in Scottsdale, Arizona. So he's working at a hospital this whole time. He married a woman named Mary Cooper in 1987, and they had two kids named Brittany and Bobby. So Robert was not a good husband in, like, many ways. He was very controlling, like, weird stuff. And this, like, makes me irrationally angry, but he made all the walls in their house had to be painted white, and he wouldn't let her hang anything up.
>> Farz: Weird.
>> Taylor: Weird.
>> Farz: Yeah. That's like, a red flag.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I have a friend who was married to someone who was awful. And he would, like. He had to, like, approve all the decorations in the house in, like, the weirdest way. It was awful.
>> Farz: As a man, it's like, why do you care about decorations?
>> Taylor: Or, like, talk about it and, like, agree, you know, like, there's all sorts of things. Yeah.
>> Farz: You don't just start swinging.
>> Taylor: Yeah, exactly. He did things like he tried to get the kids to learn how to swim by throwing them off a boat, you know, like, into the water. His son didn't like to hunt, and he was embarrassed. His son was, like, 10 years old and, like, didn't want to go hunting. And he was embarrassed, you know, like, of him and, like, made him feel bad, which is awful. When. When Robert did go hunting or camping, which he did often, he would do, like, weird s***. Like when he killed an elk, he would, like, rub the blood on his face, you know, and then, like, several times, he would sneak up on other campsites of strangers and just shoot his gun in the air to scare them, you know? And you're like, that's weird. You shouldn't have a gun. I don't love that. Oh, this is terrible. Do you want to hear it?
>> Farz: Probably.
>> Taylor: He killed a dog. He shot a picture. I know. So this guy sucks. He just is, like, the worst. So in 1998, the problems at home start to get worse. Neighbors can hear them screaming all the time. He told his friends that he was feeling suicidal because he wanted his marriage to work but couldn't figure out how. And you're like, stop being an a******. I don't know.
>> Farz: Yeah, it seems like it's not working because of you, because you.
>> Taylor: So on April 9, 2001, neighbors heard them fighting in, like, the late evening, like, around, like, eight, nine o' clock sometime. I mean, this is in Scottsdale, Arizona, still sometime between 9, 30 and 10:15pm he killed his family. He slit Mary's throat and then shot her in the back of the head. And then both kids, he slit their throats from ear to ear. They were 10 and 12.
>> Farz: What a lunatic.
>> Taylor: At 10:43, he was seen at a bank ATM driving Mary's car. He took out $280 and then probably went back home, but then left sometime in the morning after 5:30. 5:30 is the last time someone saw Mary's car in the driveway of the house he. He lost. We left in the morning, about three hours after he probably left the house. The house exploded.
>> Farz: So I remember this.
>> Taylor: Do you remember this? So the house exploded at 8:42am on April 11. The gas line in the furnace had been pulled and he had lit a candle. So he was just like, waiting for the gas to, like, fill the whole house to have it explode. They found. So, like, neighbors, you know, tried to get like. So they started off with just. Just their hoses, and they were able to make it just that house. So, like, other houses were not affected, which is good. Like, no one else got hurt in this, but they obviously, like, found the bodies of Mary and the children in the house and then like, determined they were not killed by the. By the explosion. They were killed by other means as well. So we took mary's car and April 20th, so nine days later, they found Mary's car with another dog they had who was alive but, like, scared. Underneath the car next to the Tonto National Forest, and in there, there are a ton of caves. And they think that he might have gone and tried to escape into a cave potentially. He could have, you know, died by suicide in those caves or gotten lost and gotten stuck a thing where, like, they can't even really search for him because there's so many caves and there's so, like, no one knows in them, you know, so he also could be dead. I think he might be dead. There's a couple people who, like, say they saw him in, like, driving past the house, like, months later.
There is speculation that he could have gone down into South America after 9 11
There's some people. There was like, a thing in Canada where they caught someone who they thought was him, but the fingerprints didn't match. They were like, how did you justify fingerprints? And he's like, it's not me. So, like, these people still think it's him. He was officially taken off the top 10 in 2021 because it had been, you know, 20 years, but he had never. He's never been found. And I was thinking, you know, they. There. There is speculation that it could have gone, like down into South America and just disappeared. Because this was pre 9 11. And I was thinking about this too. I was like, well, at least Mary didn't know about 9 11. Like, yeah, you know, and. But because it was pre 9 11, he could have probably easily left the country easier than you could post 9 11, you know, so it was like the last couple months where you could technically do that if you could do jump on a plane and disappear.
>> Farz: Point of living when you have to, like, live like that.
>> Taylor: I know. I feel like. And he was already suicidal. Like, I just don't think that. I don't. I feel like he's probably. His body's in a cave.
>> Farz: It's got. Yeah, I'm. I'm voting for that.
>> Taylor: Like, he doesn't seem, like, dangerous to, like. I don't know, like, maybe he'd meet someone else and end up, like, being an abusive husband. But he doesn't feel like he's going to kill like a thousand people, you know?
>> Farz: But do we know what he liked to do or what he enjoyed?
>> Taylor: That's a good question. And I wonder. So he liked, like, he liked the outdoors. Like, he liked camping, he liked hunting. So he could have survived in the forest for a while if he had, like, run. Run into the forest. It's something that they speculate too. But also his back hurt a lot. Like, not a little a lot from his injury when he was a fireman. So I feel like you can't get that far if you have, like, a really debilitating injury like that.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: You know, or he would have had to go somewhere. Somewhere like Mexico where you can buy those kind of drugs to help you, you know, you don't have to, like, go through all of our hoops. So I don't know. But he also has on his Wikipedia page there's like a thousand really fun, s***** pictures of what he might look like with, like, a beard or with brown hair or with, like, black hair. And it's just, like, really funny because it's.
>> Farz: He just looks like a skeleton.
>> Taylor: Yeah. So that's. That's him. And then the last one that I'll do is also a kind of tying things together because you know what? Starting in February, Olympics.
>> Farz: Right.
>> Taylor: Winter Olympics. I'm super excited. I know that we all signed up this week, too. If you haven't done this yet, there's still plenty of time. You can go to la28.com and sign up to dot org. It redirects. But it. You can sign up so you get on the list to possibly get tickets to the Olympics in LA in 2020, which is super exciting. And. But the Winter Olympics are in February. I will intersperse our episodes with, like, the rereleases from the last time we did Olympic stuff because we learned so much and it was super fun, and I'm excited.
>> Farz: It was really fun.
>> Taylor: Yeah. I've been getting, like, little snippets of people, and I'm like, I want to know, like, who's dating who. Tell me more. Are there any gay hockey players? Because in the heat of rivalry to go to the Sochi Olympics, you know.
>> Farz: You know, I have to cut this out.
>> Taylor: But I was.
>> Farz: What I was thinking was, as I was reading, like, the Wikipedia of heated rivalry, I was like, you know, there's two guys who are, like, doing that.
>> Taylor: Absolutely on a team. Someone just came out. One of the one NHL player came out recently, you know, and that's like. And that's like, the point, too. It's, like, making it not weird, you know?
The Winter Olympics start soon and I'm super excited
Okay, so Olympics are coming up. Winter Olympics start soon. I'm super excited. I want to know more about everyone. I can't wait. I want to watch the weird things. I'm going to watch the exciting things. It's going to be super fun.
Ryan James is on the most wanted list in the world for drug trafficking
But one of the people on, like, the top most wanted list in the world is a Canadian Olympic snowboarder named Ryan James.
>> Farz: Wedding fun.
>> Taylor: So he is. He was born on September 14, 1981, in Thunder Bay, Ontario. Everyone in his family skied because, like, they're Canadian and also they owned a ski resort, so like, they all like winter sports. He became a competitive snowboarder when he was, like, in his teens. He won a bronze medal in the parallel parallel giant slalom event at the 1999 Junior World Championship and a silver medal in the 2001 Junior World Championships. And then at the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake City, he was on Team Canada and snowboarding, but he finished 24th. So men's parallel giant. Solemn. Is that like synchronized driving but snowboarding?
>> Farz: No, it's got to be like. It's got to be the two ski things and you jump.
>> Taylor: But that's not parallel. But that's not snowboarding, is it?
>> Farz: Oh, yeah, you're right. You know, I don't know what that is.
>> Taylor: Then ask me in a month because I'll know a lot more about winter sports after the Olympics are over. But yeah. Oh, I don't. This is not telling me what it is at all. Whatever. Okay. Anyway, so we'll learn more as. As it comes. Anyway, so he was, like, good. He didn't win Olympic gold medal, but he was good enough to go, which is exciting. Like, going once seems awesome. Post Olympics, he went back to Vancouver or to Vancouver for college, and he became a bodybuilder. So he was already very athletic. So he's obviously like a snowboarder and Olympian, but he got even bigger. And he is a big guy. He is 63240. And he has some wildly dumb nicknames now as. As a fugitive, which are Giant, Public Enemy, and El Jefe, which I'll tell you more about also. So he's a big guy. He started to work in real estate, and he bought a warehouse, and then, wouldn't you know it, he starts growing pot in the warehouse and starts getting into drugs.
>> Farz: I knew it was gonna be drugs.
>> Taylor: It's drugs. So in 2006, marijuana was illegal in Canada. It was starting to be legal, and now. Now it's legal. But 2006, it was illegal, and they were starting to do, like, a little bit of medical stuff, but it was very regulated. You had to have a license, and you had to do, like, a really small grow. Like, it wasn't like you couldn't have a warehouse of it. But he was, like, found to have all of this stuff. He got raided by the. The RCMP, and they found $10 million worth of cannabis. They found a gun and ammunition. It's about 7,000 plants that they found. So it was obviously, like, intent to distribute. And because there was that much money involved, like, organized crime was, like, definitely part of it as well. He was not arrested because he wasn't there when it was raided. And he, like. There was no, like, paperwork that showed that he owned it, and Canada requires provable control or direction. So, like, he was able to not be charged with. With that. That problem, like, that thing. So he decides, I think probably he's like, oh, okay, so now I'm kind of untouchable and starts to work with Iranian and Russian cocaine smugglers, I think could possibly go wrong.
>> Farz: We're getting in there.
>> Taylor: So in 2008, he did go to prison for four years for trying to sell cocaine to a US agent. But then he got out of prison in 2011 and decided to go full criminal. He was like, I've learned zero lessons. I want to go even further in this. And so he had. He went to South America, and he's been doing stuff in South America. He's on the most wanted list because he's officially charged. October 17, 2024. He was officially charged with, quote, leading a transnational organized crime group that engaged in cocaine trafficking and murder, including of innocent civilians. And that he was. That, that like operation to charge him with this was called Operation Giant Slalom, which is stupid.
>> Farz: It's kind of fun.
>> Taylor: Be aware. Sure. So that's his charge, but he's still on the loose. So he's in, he's probably in Mexico. He's charged with drug trafficking, leading that criminal organization, Three counts of murder. He murdered several informants. A married couple named Jagtar Sidhu and his wife Harbor Harbajan, and also a man named Mohammed Zafar. He either killed them or ordered them to be killed. They're witnesses to, to the drugs he had. He has become, since getting out of prison, a high ranking member of the Sinaloa cartel, which is a largest drug cartel.
>> Farz: This guy really achieved a lot.
>> Taylor: Right. I feel like he really went for it and it sounds like he really did it, like he's in charge.
>> Farz: It sounds like he could have done anything, but he decided to do this.
>> Taylor: That's true. He's a real high achiever.
>> Farz: I mean, to go to the Olympics is really like hard. And to become like a kingpin within like a cartel as a Canadian.
>> Taylor: Also hard.
>> Farz: He's really hard.
>> Taylor: Yeah. He's only like 45, you know. Yeah.
>> Farz: Good for him.
He got on the FBI top 10 list last March
>> Taylor: I know.
>> Farz: He really, he really went for it.
>> Taylor: He accomplished, I don't know how other life goals he has, but he accomplished all those. He got on the FBI top 10 list last March. And then just this past November, November 2025, a bunch of people that are involved with the cartel and with him were arrested, including his lawyer. So they could be like getting close to, to finding him. But he's living his best life in like a ranch in Mexico. Yeah. Like in the movies.
>> Farz: Wild.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Married to an Iranian woman.
>> Taylor: Yeah. What a, what an international.
>> Farz: I know. Seriously, man.
>> Taylor: It really is. It really is pretty wild. I guess he's like, he's now he's like in the 500 on the list. So he's not like. But I think the top 10 list changes like all the freaking time.
>> Farz: Yeah. Yeah. It's like they just want to draw attention to certain people.
>> Taylor: Yeah. And he like. Yeah. So he's looks like he's like a big chest tattoo. Yeah. All these guys are somewhere out there. Oh, Operation Giant Slalom. That's so funny. They got a bunch of people, but they didn't get him.
>> Farz: Good for him.
>> Taylor: I know. Well, maybe not besides the murdering and stuff, but I mean like But I think. But you're right. He really could have done anything. Yeah.
>> Farz: It sounds like he was, like, really driven and motivated in life.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Yeah. He could have been like a brain doctor instead of a drug cartel man. I know.
>> Taylor: But he was like, I'm gonna go. Go for it when I go.
>> Farz: I didn't get gold at the Olympics. I'll get it in drug cartel land.
>> Taylor: And it's. Yeah, he definitely is getting it. So. Yeah.
>> Farz: Fun.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Yeah. So that's it. Those are the three just to highlight. But it's fun and kind of weird and scary that there's people out there who are like, actually like movie style criminals, you know?
>> Farz: That's what you want, though. That's what you want in the FBI top 10 most wanted list.
>> Taylor: Yes, exactly. Exactly.
>> Farz: Plus gas station robbers, more guys like this.
>> Taylor: Yeah, exactly, Exactly. Yeah. That's it. That's my story. Yeah.
>> Farz: Very fun. I can't wait to see the slideshow you put on Instagram of the images of these characters.
>> Taylor: Me too.
>> Farz: Which would be very exciting.
>> Taylor: And.
>> Farz: Yeah, anything we want to read off?
>> Taylor: I feel like I have something that I can't remember. Oh, yes. Okay.
Quibi is a series of poorly acted romantic movies that are vertical
I want to talk to you about Quibi.
>> Farz: Oh, yeah, yeah.
>> Taylor: Tell me similarly to the. Okay, so Quibi, you talked about this in a former episode about something, a business that failed. Just to recap. It is. It was a short form. Like TV shows that were like vertical on your phone, that the idea was that you'd watch them like on the subway when you're going to work or whatever. But then covet happened and it didn't. It didn't take off. Right, right. But there are these apps and after I like, literally bought one because I'm also in my, like, romantic book section of my life. But they're like really poorly acted romantic movies that are vertical and they are short episodes that are like two minutes long and. But like, it could be a movie if they. If you watch them back to back and they're like stupid things like, oh, my brother's best friend and I hooked up. You know, like, they're silly and they're fun. And then like, there was one that we watched over Christmas, we had to watch it on YouTube and it was like the TV screen, but it was vertical because it was in the middle of it. But it was called I Found a Homeless Billionaire for Christmas. Oh, my God. Like, the acting, the scripts, the costumes, everything could not have been worse. And it was delightful. So.
>> Farz: So vox. I think it was very.
>> Taylor: It's very Escape. Escape. Stupid.
>> Farz: Yeah, right after I did that episode. I think it was VOX did an episode, a podcast about that. They're called Real Shorts. And yeah, it was just like another example of they came with the right idea at the wrong time.
>> Taylor: You know, it's funny because I'm like. I was like, oh, I would never watch a show like that when you're talking about Quibi. But I'm like, oh, these are stupid and fun, you know? But I think I'm not taking it seriously.
>> Farz: Yeah, the Quibi ones, I think what was like a hundred thousand dollars per minute was.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Production value. Like, it was really intense, right?
>> Taylor: Like, I want, like, some, like, really, really, really bad romance stuff.
YouTube video of homeless billionaire pretending to be homeless looks terrible
Like the founder homeless billionaire for Christmas. I just can't express how stupid it is. Like, he is, like, a billionaire who pretending to be homeless. They never explain why. And he has, like, the fakest beard and the fakest mustache on you've ever freaking seen. And then, like, there's one. He kind of starts dating this woman. It's a whole thing. At one point, he, like, gets in the shower and she's like. He's like, do you want to come in? And she's like, okay. She joins him in the shower, and it kind of pans out and he's wearing pants.
>> Farz: This looks amazing. So it's. It looks like it's 28 videos an hour and eight minutes long. It looks terrible.
>> Taylor: It's terrible. You got to just like.
>> Farz: But it's on YouTube, so if y' all want, you can actually watch the whole thing, which I think I'm gonna do tonight.
>> Taylor: I really think you should. You have to. We can talk about it tomorrow. but I don't. But it's. It's funny. Yeah. Like you said. Yeah. Right idea, wrong time, wrong way to do it. But it's not like it. It wasn't the, you know, I guess not really the. The orientation of the screen and all those things. It was just like, the content, whatever, you know, like, we want, like, dumber things than what they were offering.
>> Farz: This kind of looks like AI. I can't really tell from just, like, so bad shots.
>> Taylor: I just, like, cannot express how stupid. I can't wait for you to watch it.
>> Farz: Yeah, that's my project tonight. Sweet.
Send us an Email with ideas for the show ahead of the Olympics
Do we have any lists for mail?
>> Taylor: No, I think I have some messages, but I can't find them. So. No.
>> Farz: Write to us, folks. Tell us what you think. Do naphellpod gmail.com on all the socials at Demonfell Pod. What else we got?
>> Taylor: Yeah, send us an Email with ideas for the show. I'm going to post, like, I said our Olympics stuff because Olympics are coming up. If you're excited about the Olympics, let us know. I can't wait for that. I don't really know a lot of, like, a lot of people because, like, my family and I, we've been joking about, like, when we go to the 2028 Olympics, like, what are we gonna wear every day? Like, one day we're interested, like, pilgrims, you know? Like, my brother was like, I'm gonna paint my hand red, white, and blue and, like, put it on my face every single day. Like, you know, America is going through a lot of right now during the olympics. We're, like, 150% American, you know, and so we're gonna. He's. We're gonna do that. And then, like, we were like, oh, we can be different presidents and, like, we can be different Olympians from the past. So, like, someone can be like Carrie Strugg with her, like, ankle hurt, you know? And then, like, my brother could be Ryan Lochte. And do you remember, like, I made her. If you haven't seen this, Google the SNL. Ryan Lochte, Seth MacFarlane, he's on. He's on Weekend Update. And it's so funny because Ryan Lockett, he's just, like, hot, dumb, like a dumb hottie. And it's just so funny.
>> Farz: Then he beat up a bunch of, like, locals in some country for gas.
>> Taylor: He did in Brazil. He, like, said that he got beat up at a gas station, but, like, he didn't.
>> Farz: That's what it was. That's right. He said he got.
>> Taylor: He was just, like, drunk and stupid because he's stupid, but, like, he's cute and is a good summer. It's so fun.
>> Farz: You can pull it off.
>> Taylor: I'm hoping for some characters to come out of these Olympics that we can. We can be. When we're at the Olympics in two years.
>> Farz: You got a lot of good planning going on. You got a lot of good time to plan, too.
>> Taylor: We do. As a plan. I was like, you have to. You'll have to bring extra luggage because of all of our costumes. We want to be on the news. We're going to be everywhere and very excited.
>> Farz: You gotta paint your face with doom. To Phil.
>> Taylor: Oh, my God, yes. Well, by then, we'll be.
>> Farz: We'll be.
>> Taylor: It'll be our jobs.
>> Farz: Yeah, it'll pan over.
>> Taylor: Oh, there's Taylor and Farce. I'm doomed to Phil watching this.
>> Farz: We'll have a promo Olympics.
>> Taylor: Perfect.
>> Farz: Sweet. Well, thank you, Taylor. Thanks everyone. Again. Write to us in the full pot gmail dot com. Bye all.