Let's talk the invention of 911 (that's 999 or 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3 if you're British). Did you know it wasn't full adopted in the US until the 2000s?? We'll go over AT&T, telephone lines, and switchboards! You'll also hear Taylor list every time she's called 911 - feel free to share your 911 stories with us!
Let's talk the invention of 911 (that's 999 or 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3 if you're British). Did you know it wasn't full adopted in the US until the 2000s?? We'll go over AT&T, telephone lines, and switchboards!
You'll also hear Taylor list every time she's called 911 - feel free to share your 911 stories with us!
Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor
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>> Taylor: In the matter of the people of State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA097.
>> Farz: And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your. All righty, Taylor, how are you doing?
>> Taylor: Good.
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>> Farz: Okay. That seems not as strong as it probably should be, but, you know, well.
>> Taylor: It'S like, not made up, but it's like wood. And then he's going to plaster around it, but I think he has to, like, make the shelf section fun.
>> Farz: Fun. Well, it's progress one way or the other. Right? So that's. That's always a good thing for anybody listening who is used to listening to this podcast. You'll notice my audio quality is worse because my dogs ripped out and destroyed my. My recording equipment. So, yeah, that happened last week.
>> Taylor: The last time we recorded, it ended with a scream. And Farz's computer just going to the side. And all I thought was like, swirls of nothing. And then you left the zoom. So I had a feeling it was bad.
>> Farz: They just. It was incredible. They. They broke all this stuff. They toppled light stuff. It looked like a hurricane had gone through in, like, one second because.
>> Taylor: Huge. Yeah.
>> Farz: Yeah, they're huge. And they all wrap themselves up underneath the desk, which is full of cables and cords and wires. And then if they see a squirrel, they don't really consider the ramifications of chasing after the squirrel that's outside the window. And I pay the price for it. So there you have it. Yeah.
>> Taylor: Wow.
>> Farz: Such as life.
Doomed to Fail brings you historical disasters and failures
Cool. Do you want to go ahead and introduce us? Yes.
>> Taylor: Hello, everyone. Welcome to Doomed to Fail. We bring you historical disasters and failures. And I am Taylor, joined by Fars. I am here to tell us a story.
>> Farz: I'm going to tell you a story. Okay. And it's a story that is not a failure. It is a huge success. But if you have to engage with this topic, then something has failed somewhere in life, so it's sort of due to fail. Ish. Right?
>> Taylor: All right, I'm ready. I don't know what it is. You tell me.
>> Farz: Let's roll with it. I'm going to talk about the origin and the history and some fun little facts about 911. Oh, fun? Yeah. I am speaking about the emergency line, not the tragedy or the Porsche vehicle. So a few things 91 1. Related.
>> Taylor: We've agreed not to do 911 or I've said we're not doing it and we're sticking to that.
>> Farz: We're not doing it with me. So we're going to start with what life was like before 911 was implemented nationally. And we're going to get into a little bit conversations about like how telephones worked. I know this is really exciting, but just stick with me. It gets to. I'm building up to something here. So in the early days, the way you would place a phone call was typically you pick up a phone, an operator on the other end would say number please. And you would give them the number you're trying to reach and then they would manually plug a cord into a switchboard connecting your line to that line. That's the way it would work. If you've ever seen I Love Lucy, which I've watched a lot of, there's a few episodes where they do this really fun. So in those days if you were being stabbed or mauled by a bear, you would have to go through this process which adds a ton of time. It requires a ton of memory to do this. And so it was not an ideal system. Later on there was a thing called electromechanical selectors which were invented and in that situation you could skip going to the operator and dial the end destination yourself. In this case it would be either the fire department or the police department.
Back in the day we had to memorize people's numbers
>> Taylor: So can you tell me when telephones were invented?
>> Farz: I don't know that because I'm just.
>> Taylor: I'm trying to imagine what, what I'm looking. What it's like I'm. Can. I'll look it up real fast.
>> Farz: So I. Younger listeners might not recall this, but back in the day we had to memorize people's numbers. I remember I had to remember my parents work number and there was a few.
>> Taylor: Six is the answer.
>> Farz: That's when Graham Bell did it, I think. Right. I was going to Graham Bell.
>> Taylor: Yes.
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah. Back in those days you just have to remember numbers. I mean you'd write some stuff down. For the most part you just remember numbers and that's how you kind of went about your life. But like if you're in the middle of an emergency and you have to remember a number that you never ever dial because why would you.
>> Taylor: Right.
>> Farz: It's possible. Like you'd have to like remember every like three days. Okay, what was the number again? Okay. It eventually had it like sunk into deep long term memory. The national association of Fire Chiefs were the first to make a public stink about the fact that it was incredibly hard for people to know who to call when they were in danger. And they suggested having a single number to use to report fires specifically. This was like the first time this ever, anybody ever actually raised us in any sort of a national capacity. This was done in 1957. In 1966, the National Academy of Science, they were exploring the causes of death and it revealed that timeliness to a response times to medical emergencies was like top of the list. Like that was the biggest factor, whether someone lives or dies. So in 1967, so there's, there's a steady drumbeat happening, it's kind of slow, there's some studies being put behind. Wasn't until 1967 that LBJ's administration came out in support of the idea with the original intent being to have a single number just like in the most densely populated metropolitan areas. Maybe it expands to the whole country, maybe it doesn't. But that was the original idea. This was not a mandate. This was not federally run. This was just a recommendation and a suggestion by the President.
>> Taylor: Cool.
>> Farz: So in November of That same year, 1967, the FCC, federal Communications Commission met with the executives at AT&T to help them figure out how to go about doing this and achieving this goal essentially In January, on January 12th of 1968, AT&T at this point basically had a monopoly. For most parts are still like local carriers, but they could, they kind of, they could push their weight around quite a bit. And they were the ones that came up with 911 as an emergency number. So what AT&T said was what we're going to go with. And the reason for it actually is partially, if you look at a rotary dial, if you recall what that looks like, where it's like a one and then it goes all the way around and ends at a nine and there's like a silver thing in the middle where you kind of twist the thing to. The whole point of it was that the 9 and the 1 are on opposite sides. So you can really quickly do two of the numbers and then you have to be very deliberate to go to the nine also to do that. So A, it was fast and B it was not prone to mistakes on a rotary phone. That was the whole point behind it. Yeah. Lastly, it was also part of like a broader longer term initiative to kind of standardize communications. So the whole point was this standard format for government entities called N1 1 and standing for number, basically a number followed by 11 being like a standard protocol for government services, government entities. 311-441-91.
>> Taylor: I still didn't hear about those until, like the early 2000s. I don't know.
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah, I think there were. There's a lot of planning going and I can tell why, given how long it took for this to actually come into a fruition.
Actually, when do you think 911 is a federal standard
Actually, before I continue, when do you think 911 is a federal standard? When it was officially designated 1980. Okay, we're not. No, you're not. We're going to.
>> Taylor: We're not.
>> Farz: We're going to pin drop that and get back to it here in a little bit.
>> Taylor: Would have been exciting.
Alabama Telephone Company created the first 911 line in 1968
>> Farz: So 35 days after AT&T had expressed their intent to standardize an emergency telephone line, the CEO of another network provider, a guy named Bob Gallagher, who ran Alabama Telephone Company, was feeling a little bit feisty, a little bit competitive, and decided they're going to beat AT and T to the punch, which I think a lot of these local providers were trying to do, because they thought that would make them big dogs and cool. And so they created and deployed the first 911 line that was actually usable. And frankly, this seems to be the only claim to fame for this company. It doesn't exist anymore. The first call 911 call was a test call placed in Halleville, Alabama, between the speaker of the Alabama House, a guy named Rankin fight, and the U.S. house Representative for Alabama, I think it was the 4th district, named Tom Bevel. Using Alabama Telephone Company's 911 service, on March 1st of 1968, AT&T implemented the first working version of a new line, a new emergency line in Huntington, in Huntington, Indiana. But that did not mean that everybody just immediately got access to 911. This is 1968. A little bit of backstory. Have you heard the term Ma Bell?
>> Taylor: Yes.
>> Farz: You know what that means?
>> Taylor: I was gonna ask because I thought that the big monopoly was Bell, like Pacific Bell, Ma Bell. Then they, like, took Ma Bell apart because that was like the biggest monopoly. So I was surprised that AT&T was even in there. When you first said that.
>> Farz: I was a little surprised too. But Ma Bell was the name colloquially, the nickname used for at&t. And the reason was because Bell was this insane, huge powerhouse that controlled a lot of local communications and the physical infrastructure to conduct those communications. AT&T was the parent company that owned Bell, so. Yeah, yeah.
>> Taylor: Cause, like, I mean, I have literally no idea how any of that works. You know, like. Like, I feel like the physicality of, like, having a lady be like, plug this in and you get to vars makes more sense to me than being like dial this number and somehow it gets to Vars, you know, or like anyone can dial this number from anywhere and you go to the one that's closest to you. You know, if I have my phone, I dial 911 in Austin. I'm not getting California 91 1. I'm getting Austin. Right?
>> Farz: Yeah. It's kind of remarkable.
>> Taylor: That's pretty cool.
>> Farz: That is very cool. Yeah.
>> Taylor: It's like magic.
>> Farz: Yeah, I, I agree with you. I don't totally understand either, and I hate to disappoint you, but I'm not going to go into the nuances and details of how this worksheet works. Once again, it's really complicated.
>> Taylor: In an apocalyptic situation, I believe we could build the printing press. I do not believe we could build the telephone.
>> Farz: I don't think so either. I don't think so either.
>> Taylor: I don't think that's fine.
>> Farz: Maybe a switchboard. Yeah, probably not that.
>> Taylor: No, no, no, no. But I could make little stamps for the letters.
>> Farz: That'd be cute. So I gave you that background to tell you that when AT&T decided they're going to roll out this whole new program and they're the 800 pound gorilla. They're the biggest provider in the country and they own Bell. They said that only providers running their service through Bell would have access to it. So Bell was providing kind of the hardware for this, which was legitimately a whole thing, because you had to like create new versions of switchboards to be able to know that this is coming in, where to route it, when to route it there, so on and so forth.
>> Taylor: Right. Like there's so many. Much infrastructure.
>> Farz: Yeah, so much infrastructure. And so as a result, independent telephone companies were kind of, they were for the most part excluded when this first came out. The way they would prevent this usage was again because the telephone, the Bell who owned the telephone infrastructure was the one providing the equipment. And so they could kind of gatekeep go through that route. So this problem would get solved eventually by legislation, but it would take quite a long time. In the interim, the small providers solved this by using a thing called a 911 tandem, which were basically circuits that were added to phone lines to automatically switch and route calls to the appropriate public safety answering point a PSAP rather than routing them through the bell switchboard, which AT&T was preventing. So that was kind of like their stopgap, they addressed it at the telephone line and not at the switchboard line. So by the mid-1970s, states were enacting legislation for telephone companies who hadn't implemented 911 to do so and to start collecting surcharges from subscribers to fund that program. By 1979, a federal report came out that showed only 26% of the U.S. population had access to 911. That's 1979. This was. Yeah, this was mostly determined to be the cause of just no leadership at the federal level. The federal government just would. Over the administrations that passed between LBJ and this point, they're like, yeah, states, you'll deal with it, you figure it out. But like state. How are you going to get like two states to communicate with each other and like engage with this like kind of con? Like. I don't know. It seems like. It seems very foolhardy.
>> Taylor: Yeah, it feels like such like a. I mean I guess now it was such like a no brainer for public safety, you know.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: It's not like a. Maybe especially which we. When we know that like the reason like that people die because it waits so long, you know.
>> Farz: Yeah, totally. There's no, there's no political reason not to do this. There's every political reason to do this.
>> Taylor: Yes, exactly.
>> Farz: So part of the state legislation that was happening was. Was the creation of dedicated 911 centers which were opening at a clip of about 70 centers per year by the 1980s. So because of this, because of the increased investment by states, because they started doing public advertising for 911 and emergency phone lines, at this point, it all kind of came into one. Between fire, ambulance and. And police assistance, it all came into 911. This led to more growth and more usage of the number. So by only eight years later, when it was 26% by 1987, 50% of the U.S. had access to the number 87.
>> Taylor: Wow.
>> Farz: You still don't have 100%. And this is where I put down.
Federal government mandated every state to implement 911 in 1980
Taylor, can you guess the year the federal government mandated to step in and do a 911? You already answered the question. You said 1980, so you obviously know that's not the case. It took till 1999.
>> Taylor: What that doesn't. But who was the last state to do it?
>> Farz: So. So it was the federal government that came out. The federal government passed this thing called the wireless communication and public safety, also known as the 911 act because that was the first time from a federal government perspective. They mandated every state to implement 911 as the emergency line, to provide the centers, the call centers, to provide the technology, all that stuff.
>> Taylor: Who was waiting? New Hampshire?
>> Farz: I don't know. Probably. Yeah. So Actually, here's the thing. It might not have been a whole state that was waiting it out, because a lot of this gets passed down to local. Local governments and municipalities. So it could have been like, you know, entities that were holding out. They. The 1999 act also required a thing called Enhanced 911, which automatically finds the location the person is dialing in from. Which is really cool.
>> Taylor: Right. Because I remember they used to like, that technology was also used for pizza. And that was the first time that you could. They would know where you were calling from, like in like pop culture, as you call Domino's, and they would know your address. And I feel like that's similar technology to the 91 1.
>> Farz: You know, I. I think the pizza came first, then they did it to save lives.
>> Taylor: I think so too.
>> Farz: Yeah. Yeah, that must be it.
>> Taylor: Hawaii was one of the last ones. You know, one. Oh, that kind of tracks actually around 2000, 2001.
>> Farz: Wow. That. That does kind of track. This was also the law that mandated that any lines, phone lines that aren't in service because of non payment have to be able to call 91 1.
>> Taylor: That's cool.
>> Farz: Yeah. Yeah, that was a fun one.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Just so you know, everyone. Your old cell phone can call 91 1.
>> Farz: Totally. 100%. Yeah. And another fun fact that I learned that was spearheaded by New York City was 911 tapping protocol. So the idea was that if you're hearing impaired, how do you communicate that you need assistance? And so the idea, there was a methodology applied to this. The whole methodology behind it was if you were talking on a phone that, like, if you're talking on. What do they call the phone?
>> Taylor: Booth?
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah. You're turning on a pay phone, then what you can do is call 91 1. And then you can do two patterns of tapping your finger on the receiver, depending on the type of service that you're looking for. So if you were to just do like a steady tap, like just consistently across the board, then that would mean you are in need of. Which one was it? Hold on. Oh, you need emergency services. So that's the police. Like, you need police there. If you do a double tap, like a pattern of like double taps, then that means you're in need of either a fire or ambulance. And so the protocol recommends that you do the tapping for like 90 seconds or optimally until assistance arrives. Because I bet it just takes a while for the operator to like, grasp what's happening. And then, you know, so. So that's kind of a unique thing. That I never heard of. There's also now a thing called text 291 1, which as of 2014 has been supported by the major carriers. Unfortunately, it's only supported by 57% of emergency centers as of 2025. But the one good thing there is that if it's not supported, those centers are mandated to send a reply saying, we this isn't supported. Call the number.
>> Taylor: At least they tell you that no.
>> Farz: One'S heard tell you. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I can see, you can see why, how useful that would be if, like, you're in an abusive situation, like, just like going to the bathroom and text like. That's incredibly handy.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
32 countries use 911 as their emergency line including Canada
>> Farz: And my last little fun fact here is that 32 countries use 911 as their emergency line. 32, including Canada. Yeah.
>> Taylor: Oh, yeah. I was gonna. I was gonna check for Canada for our Canadian listeners. So we double check. That's cool.
>> Farz: Yeah. Most of Europe uses 1 1.2uk uses 999. There's like a bunch of different variations there.
>> Taylor: There is a.
>> Farz: You're gonna say something about Reno 911, aren't you?
>> Taylor: I was going to, like, I'm. I have so many funny things to talk about. There's a. An episode of the IT crowd where the number is like, really, really long. And it's like, really funny because you just like, have to. It's like a song, and it's like nine digits and it's hilarious.
Do you want to talk about all the times that you've called 911
Do you want to talk about all the times that you've called 91 1? My daughter asked me this question. All the time I've called 911 in a bunch of fun. A bunch of fun times. One time.
>> Farz: Really?
>> Taylor: Oh, yeah. Well, I guess because I live. I lived in New York. I don't know. One time I was walking my boss's dog, which is super out of character for me at six in the morning. Like, who. Who. Who is a person? The answer is I was poor and I needed money, but I was doing that. And I walked past the Citibank and the Citibank, whole vestibule covered in blood.
>> Farz: Seriously.
>> Taylor: And I was like, okay. So I called 911 and they were like, do you want to stay? And I was like, absolutely not. I'd like to leave because it was dark. And I was just like, early, really early in the morning. And then when I kind of swung by it again later, there were police in there just like, staring at it because I was like, I don'. Do with us. Like, covered. Absolutely covered in blood. One time I called because, oh, one time lightning hit a tree in front of my apartment and ripped all of the cables off of our wall. And they were, like, floating in the air. And we had.
>> Farz: No.
>> Taylor: No, all electricity went out. And I called 911 and they, like, the fireman, like, came into our house and, like, did all the stuff. We didn't have electricity for a couple days. One time, I was walking with my husband to the train, and a woman got out of a taxi with, like, an old man. But the old man was, like, very big. He was, like a tall old man. And he started to fall onto her, and you could tell that, like, something was wrong. So I, like, ran half a block to help her, and he. We, like, gently put him on the floor. And it was her dad, and he was, like, going to church to, like, meet his friends, and he was, like, very old, and he was kind of, like, having, like, a thing. So we laid him on the ground. And I called 911, and Juan went into the church and was like, we have your friend out here. He needs help. And then an ambulance came and took him. When. What else? A couple. I feel like I. I called one time because I was on the Brooklyn Bridge, and there was a car accident underneath me because I was, like, on the walkway, and it was underneath me. I called one time because in California, there was a car accident in front of us. A car, like, rolled across the. Or, like, scooted all the way to the left, hit the median, and then rolled across. And that was really scary. So I called 911. Then I feel like maybe that's it. Have you ever called?
>> Farz: Were you running an inventory in your head while I was doing this episode? That's a lot.
>> Taylor: Florence asks me this question a lot. She asks me how many times I call, and I'm almost like, I called them when there is an emergency, and I know that, like, that the police will be able to help. One time, my boss had a panic attack, and she thought she was having a heart attack. And she messaged me, and she was like, I think I'm having a heart attack. I don't know what to do. And I saw her, and she was just kind of, like. She just, like, was, like, a thing. So I called 911 and, like, a bunch of firemen came. Oh, one time I called 911 because in front of my apartment, it smelled like gasoline. And I was like, it just smells like gasoline. I don't know what to do. They sent, like, 15 firemen. They checked every car on our street, and they found the One that was leaking, and they went to the guy's house, and they were like, your car is leaking gasoline. I was like, if I flick a cigarette underneath this car, this whole neighborhood's going up, you know? So I called. I think that might be it, but I've definitely called more than once. Oh, I called them one because there was a drunk driver in front of me during. In the middle of the day here one time. And he was, like, very obviously swerving. And, like, I was like, I don't like it. I don't. I don't like it at all. You know, so what?
>> Farz: Taylor? Somebody did that to me. I. I had. I. I remember. Do you know this? I had a dentist appointment, like, somewhere in la, like Glendale or something. And I. I didn't come to work that morning. So I go to the dentist appointment, and I'm in my car driving. Driving to work. It's like 10:30 in the morning, and the police on the motorcycle pulls me over, and, like, we had a report of a drunk driver. How much have you had today? It's like, here's my X rays for my dentist. Like, what are you talking about?
>> Taylor: No, totally. But they were just checking because, like, someone. Because I was.
Several times I've called 911 for help with elderly people
I mean, when this guy was driving down, like, a main road, very obviously, like, I mean, maybe he was having a medical emergency. But it was enough that I was like, I need to tell the police, because someone needs to make sure this person's okay and, like, off the road, you know?
>> Farz: That's fair. That's fair.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: I only did one time I can think of, when I had that apartment off Rowena. Remember that? The one that your friend hooked me up with. I got home from work, it was kind of dark, and there was, like, a really elderly man who was laying on the ground, like, across from the unit. And I, like, was like, what's going on? He couldn't speak any English, so I, like, sat there with him and kind of, like, had him put his arms on my shoulders. His knees were on the ground. And I was like, I need to lift this guy up. He was very small. He was very frail. And then this woman comes by. I was like, don't lift him. He might break something. I was like, in hindsight, what an idiot. Of course I should lift him. Like, why would I let this old man suffer until cops come? But I called the police, and they sent a ambulance and they helped kind of get him up. But I was. I felt really bad. I got to the point where I was like, I should slide my Hands underneath his knees so that at least he doesn't feel the concrete on his knees for some knobby. He was old and knobby and very frail. It was really sad.
>> Taylor: That reminds me of two more times I called 91 1. One time someone tried to break into our apartment while we were there in la. Do you remember that? I remember that I'm trying to open the door with, like, a set of, like, post office keys. And we were, like, very clearly home. And we, like, saw them through the keyhole or like, whatever the people and we call 91 1. And then they had them come and my neighbor and my husband went outside and they flashed, like, the police car headlights into the guy's face so that he couldn't see us as, like, the. The witnesses. And then. And then, like, they were like, yeah, that's him, or whatever. And then the police were like, okay, cool, we're taking him to Hollywood and drop him off. Oh, cool.
>> Farz: Seriously?
>> Taylor: Yeah, great idea. Let's bring him to the next town and drop him off. That'll fix this problem. We don't have to worry about it. So. That was incredible. And then, Kathleen, there was another one when someone maybe fell in a cold. I can't remember. I lost it. But I've called many, many times.
>> Farz: What was it? Was a guy drunk or high or did he look insane or what was his deal?
>> Taylor: No, it was like a. It was like an old couple. I think they were just, like, confused, I think. I think they were. I think they were probably high, honestly, you know?
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: But I don't know. But I don't know. Yeah, I'm glad to be able to do it, you know, Like, I'm always like a. I'm like a. Just in case. I'd rather do it than. Than not do it. Especially, like, you know, with, like, the gas under that car. Like, I could have not called, you know, and been like, whatever. But also, like, that could have been a big thing. And they're like, that's their job. So they came over and checked it out, and I was impressed that they, like, found it and. And, like, took care of it. They, like, puttied up the leak and stuff.
>> Farz: Called 911 more.
>> Taylor: No, but it's good to know that you can. I feel like I used to use 411 a lot for, like, information, but the Internet is here, so it doesn't matter.
>> Farz: Do you remember when we used to have to call a number to tell us the forecast for the. The that day or the next day? Remember that?
>> Taylor: Yeah. Or, like, the movie phone.
>> Farz: The movie phone. Oh, my God, we're so old.
>> Taylor: All of those. All those things I've told you how, like, when we were. A couple years ago, we were, like, at, like, a picnic, a town picnic, and we couldn't find my husband. So I was like, miles, let's call dad. So I gave him my phone, and Miles, like, didn't know how to talk on the phone. He was, like, holding it, like, in front of his face and in the air and going, like, dad, dad. He, like, was trying to look at it, like, had it overflow. I was like, do you not know how to hold a phone to your ear? Like.
>> Farz: New lesson for the family.
>> Taylor: But it's like, how quickly that has. That has changed, you know, in, like, the. The 150 years that we've. That telephones have been invented, we were.
Enhanced 911 became a thing in 99 because cell phones started becoming relevant
>> Farz: Able to do so much. So that's actually why enhanced 911 became a thing in 99, is because that's when cell phones started almost kind of becoming relevant to people's lives. And they were like, well, like someone from your city doesn't matter anymore. They could be from anywhere. And that's why they had to have enhanced API9.11 to be able to track it.
>> Taylor: That totally makes sense.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: Wow.
>> Farz: There you go. That's our fun little story for the day. That's somewhat uplifting.
>> Taylor: Yeah. I feel like we solved a problem.
>> Farz: I think so.
>> Taylor: That's good. That's good. You can, like, call someone for help. Yeah, yeah.
>> Farz: Good things.
>> Taylor: Yeah. I hope you don't have to call, but if you do, it's nice to know that they're there.
>> Farz: 100.
>> Taylor: Especially the firemen.
>> Farz: Yeah. You know, what a tough gig. Gonna live at the fire station for two nights with league, your kids and family and. But it's gotta be fun. The kind of pastas they make, gotta make be fun. Then you gotta, like, sit there and play poker and.
>> Taylor: Yeah. It's like, you could have, like, your friends where, like, it could turn deadly any minute.
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah. God bless them.
>> Taylor: I know.
Taylor: Congratulations to Diane Warren on being nominated for another Oscar
>> Farz: Well, Taylor, do we have anything we want to shout out?
>> Taylor: I do have. I have a couple things. One, Diane Warren got nominated for another Oscar today.
>> Farz: If you don't know Diane Warren, go listen to our episode about Millie Vanilli.
>> Taylor: She wrote Blamin on the Rain and every other song that you've ever loved, and she's been nominated. She gets nominated for Oscar every f****** year, and she did it again. So. Congratulations, Diane Warren. Two, I talked to our friend Nadine, who is in Canada and she was saying how Canadian media is obsessed with Ryan Wedding, like, the cartel guy. She's like, they talk about him all the time. And she was like, it's so funny that you brought it up because, like, we. I haven't heard. I didn't hear about him in Dude.
>> Farz: I'm obsessed with the guy.
>> Taylor: I know. I was like. I told her. I was like, the more we learn about him, the more we're kind of impressed. So, yeah, it's not great, but, like, I know. And then also she said Thunder Bay, where he grew up, is actually like a bad part of Canada. So she's not surprised that that's where he is from. Mentored into turn to drugs. But anyway, it's about to be another. It's about to be a TV show and another, like, in depth podcast about it too, is coming out, which is like, again, I'm just on top of somehow.
>> Farz: Yeah, you're in the. The artery of popular culture. You are the popular culture.
>> Taylor: But no one knows. I'm just.
>> Farz: No one knows.
>> Taylor: Secretly in charge of stuff.
>> Farz: You're like Nostradamus, except, yeah, for pop culture.
>> Taylor: Pretty fun. Good for me. Yeah. And then I've also just been watching some. The. Just as we get prepped for the Winter Olympics, things are starting to pop up on my social feeds, and I am getting more and more excited. I've seen some cool figure skaters, and I saw a video of this woman who is a alpine skier working out. And, like, it's insane. She's, like, squatting the whole time. Right. Because you have to, like, do this, like, go back and forth, and she's, like, holding, like, gigantic weights and, like, squatting it, but then also, like, moving her hips, you know, to like, get that muscle. And it's wild.
>> Farz: Their bodies are something else.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: What they can do with them.
>> Taylor: A lot of hot pods. And I'm excited. And that's fun.
>> Farz: Well, if you have any ideas, suggestions, comments, questions, write to us@dunefellpodgmail.com. find us all the socials@ Doomfl. Pod. And that's it.
>> Taylor: That's it. Thank you, Vars. Good luck with your headphone situation.
>> Farz: Appreciate it. I'm gonna try and work that out. Hopefully the audio will be better next time we record. Thanks.
>> Taylor: All.