🎧 Step back in time to uncover the mystery and intrigue of the Mayerling Incident! This week, we delve into the tragic and controversial events surrounding the deaths of Crown Prince Rudolf of Austria and his lover, Baroness Mary Vetsera, in 1889. Was it a pact, a political conspiracy, or something even more sinister? Join us as we unravel the secrets and scandals of this royal enigma. 👑🔍 #TrueCrime #MayerlingIncident #PodcastEpisode #RoyalMystery #HistoricalScandals #CrownPrinceRudolf #MaryVetsera #HistoryPodcast #UnsolvedMysteries #AustrianHistory
🎧 Step back in time to uncover the mystery and intrigue of the Mayerling Incident! This week, we delve into the tragic and controversial events surrounding the deaths of Crown Prince Rudolf of Austria and his lover, Baroness Mary Vetsera, in 1889. Was it a pact, a political conspiracy, or something even more sinister? Join us as we unravel the secrets and scandals of this royal enigma. 👑🔍
Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor
hello Taylor from Doom to fail we're a podcast that brings you history's most notorious disasters and epic failures we
are re-releasing our first 26 episodes in two parts because we used to do long
episodes and now we do two a week that are a little bit shorter so we're almost done with our re-releases this is
episode 25 part one on the miring incident so this is something that
happened um in 1889 when um the Crown Prince of of Austria and his mistress were found dead
by Suicide at myling which is like a hunting lodge that the Austrian royal family had so it's a story of like
Intrigue love affairs um probably some misunderstandings and it's one that I
hadn't heard so I hope that you enjoy also for this one I wrote a book called Twilight of Empire not to be confused
with the book that I just read about the Opium Wars called Imperial Twilight but Twilight of empire was by uh Greg King
and Penny Wilson and Penny Wilson the author she I taged her on Instagram and she said that she listened and we did a
good job so I mean that means a lot to me and that's super super exciting so I
hope you enjoy it as well again episode 25 part one the myling incident thank
you in a matter of the people of State of California versus orthal James Simpson case number ba09 and so my
fellow Americans ask not what your country can
do for you ask what you can do for your [Music]
country welcome to doomed to fail the podcast where we explored two red flaggy relationships one historic One True
Crime and point out all the little markers that could have prevented something usually negative from happening I'm fars I'm joined here with
my co-host Taylor hi Taylor hello so Taylor what why don't you go ahead and
introduce yourself and why you like to cover historical red flaggy relationships and events yeah
yeah I'm Taylor Pinero and I try to do a little bit more historical trying to go back time when I can try to go all over
the world a lot of it is because I love history and there's so many amazing stories that were just not taught I
definitely feel like I was totally I don't know what's the word like stilted by the American education system because
I had a terrible history teachers and they made it really boring and that's super unfair cuz there's so many fun
things that happened so I like to do relationships when I can find them but also like big famous disasters like I
did the Hindenburg and and things like that is stilted the combination of jilted and stunted I think so because it
like made it seem boring and also I feel like I could have used it more in my life because people don't change are the same people we've always been you know
so even people don't change things from 2,000 years ago they happen today every freaking day exactly exactly that's
awesome and I am a fanatic of True Crime mostly because I like to think about how
how these people can do the things that they can do going into like the Deep recesses of whatever thought patterns
are created and how they're created and why things happen the way they do is always really interesting for me so
that's kind of where my passion in the in this on the side of things lies the reason we decided to do red flag
relationships is just mostly because Taylor would would examine my relationships and say far as you see the
red flag still you I'm like yeah I see them it's still fun I'm still going to do it it's like this should be a podcast cuz you're probably not the only one so
that's how like I'm like fars you tend to like a little bit of crazy and you're like no I don't and I'm like I think that you do yeah yeah TL
Taylor nailed it for sure so how's your week start week been or week weekend
been Taylor good we are going to a like I don't know what's lower than
there's professional baseball minor league baseball and like one notch below I think that's the kind of baseball game we're going to after this so we're going
to Palm Springs to the Palm Springs I don't know what they're called but play their baseball stadium but the kids get
to go out on the field and get to have their like baseball side by the players and stuff so it'll be quite cute fun it's really really fun I I love those
games and because they're so cheap they're really inexpensive they're really yeah you feel like it's a community all out there doing their
thing like I had um I had floor seats one time at Madison Square Garden at a New York Liberty game and like yes it
was the WNBA but also I had floor seats at madis Square Garden it was dope yeah
yeah yeah I'm all for it very access yeah I woke up this morning and I read a
Facebook post that completely ruined me it was for this dog rescue called Austin
Animal Center that said five of these gorgeous dogs they're like two to 5
years old were going to be put down in the next week if someone isn't set up and Foster them and because my life's
not busy enough I went and fill out the application I reached out to them directly and asked if I can foster
apparently I got to ask like really really like just in time when somebody else had already asked and they were
pairing the dogs one of the dogs with that family so all the dogs were off the kill list for next week which is fantastic and in the next week or two
I'm probably going to be a foster d a that's awesome
yeah so usually the format of the show is that Taylor or I go first we usually
interchange one or the other who goes first this week Taylor I think that I do sweet then in that case I'm going to
tell you what my drink is and then we'll segue to the historic story so my story
or my story and my drink are from my old stopping grounds Miami Florida so I'm
going with a cafe conche which is just Spanish for coffee and milk it is not
good it is it is it is like just piles of sugar with like a couple
of drips of coffee in it people love the stuff in Miami I think they also call it Cuban coffee but it it never was my
thing but again Miami is known for simulants so that's a good one to have so that's what I'm going to go with cool
well I can't wait I have a drink that I've never heard of but I want to share
with you it's actually a soda called Alm dudler a l m d u d l e r which is
Austria's national drink so Austria the country is where we are going to be going today and that's the it's only the
only thing more popular than Al dudler is Coca-Cola so sweet austrians [ __ ] love it cool I'm gonna talk about the
myling incident have you heard of that he repeat it the myling myling incident
never heard of it it is the murder suicide of Rudolph the Crown Prince of Austria and his 17-year-old mistress
Mary vsta cool yeah never heard of it cool so I watched a bunch of YouTube
videos on this and I read a book called Twilight of an Empire so I'll put my sources in in the notes as well but
there's two things that I want to start with before we get started to start like thinking about like where we're going with this one of them is there's so much
like there's so much sex in politics and sometimes we don't care like with the Kennedy is like we don't give a [ __ ]
we're like whatever you know with the clintons we were like we kind of care but like nah nothing like super weird
happened but sometimes it changes the course of history so in do you remember
in 2004 there was a US Senate uh a republican running for US Senate in Illinois named Jake Jack Ryan not Jake
Ryan from sounds this sounds really familiar so Jack Ryan was running in 24
in 2004 against a Democrat and he was going into a seat that a republican had
retired from he was he had just gotten a divorce from actress Jerry Ryan and
she's in Star Trek so like you might if you look her up you'd recognize her she's pretty the story The story's starting to resonate more keep feeling
so in their divorce filing there were custody documents that were hidden from the public but they became public and in
those custody doc documents Jerry had said that Jack had tried to take her to sex clubs in different parts of the US
and Europe and she didn't want to go she didn't want to like perform publicly in these in these sex clubs and so that was
ultimately led to their divorce and that was in their custody papers because she was using that to like gain more custody of the kids so he was probably going to
lose his campaign anyway like Jack probably wasn't going to win but he left the campaign and another
Republican entered so the Democrat won in a landslide 7030 and that Democrat was Barack Obama oh my God that's so
cool yeah so he definitely W with his little sexual deviant he definitely
boosted Obama's campaign and that was in 2004 when he became Senator to Illinois and four years later you know he's
president so well what was the big the huge boost was obviously getting to be a
us was a huge deal but he also gave the keynote at the dnc's convention and and that like
launched him into like the national Stratosphere so that's that's a really good way to tie that together that one
asking his wife to go to a sex club results in Obama being president that's crazy yeah it's crazy so do you remember
when Gmail was hard to get you had to get invited so I would get invited that I could invite five people and they could invite five people there was a
dude and his name was something very that was already taken like John Smith so he was trying to get like john. Smith
at Gmail and he couldn't get it so he was watching the DNC speeches while he was trying to figure this out and he saw
Barack Obama it was like oh I've never heard of this guy let me grab barack. Obama gmail.com and he grabbed it and he
gets like 100 million emails a day B move so funny anyway there's that there sex and politics always been a thing and
this matters because similarly when Rudolph our main main person in this
story he was air to the austr Hungarian Empire and when he died his cousin
became heir to the austr Hungarian Empire and his cousin was Fran Ferdinand so that's the life-changing person who
became heir to the throne because as you know France Ferdinand gets assassinated World War I yeah whenever you mentioned
somebody getting killed who's Australian royalty I was like okay this is going to end in a lot of death for a lot of
people yeah absolutely so the other thing that we should start talking about is incest which I know talked about a
bunch in these royal families there's just so much of it and I I mean obviously I have no idea what they could
possibly be thinking but in my mind and what I know about genetics which is almost nothing but enough to know that
like things aren't going to go great if you continue to you know intermar in between families like how is that better
than having like smart people from other families come in you know what I mean like that just that concept doesn't make any sense to me okay so in the first
time in history where you hear me say this I think I'm going to defend incest
in this case please do CU I don't get it because I think that if you're like in this Royal position where literally
everybody is Beneath You Like You engaging with them is like a travesty all you have that are your peer
group is like your relatives like what else do you have but yeah yes but like it's not going
well it doesn't go well I'm not saying it's good I'm not saying it's good it's it's like I can understand it is what
I'm saying yeah but I mean so Rudolph the the Crown Prince of Austria he's a
hapsburg so I do want to talk about the hapsburgs I think later I'll go further further back but essentially the H
hapsburg started in 1273 Rudolph the first of hapsburg is elected king of Germany Lots this have happened they
also still exist they're still hapsburgs but they're less inbred now but like some of the things like France Ferdinand
himself said quote with us man and wife are always related to each other 20 times over the results are that half the
children are idiots or epileptics yeah the clues were there are great yeah like you can if you look you can see it
Rudolph's parents were first cousins his grandmothers were sisters and his so his wife him and his wife ended up having
the same grandfather it's very confusing it's like you can't even draw a family tree like this right because it's so
confusing some of the history there's there was Charles II of Spain he was Charles the bewitch or Charles the mad
he was the last hapsburg ruler of Spain born in 1661 but has so many disabilities he had severe physical
deformities they had that prominent jaw that like big hapsburg underbite you know and his tongue was so swollen he
could like barely eat or talk yeah which is so gross like so terrible put him out his misery he was infertile had a range
of health problems the jaw the Habsburg jaw and lip is like a distinct facial feature uh it's you can see it in
portraits throughout history it also there's a lot of times like nature does nature intervenes and puts in ferity in
the in the lines because they're like yeah Nature's like you can't do this anymore yeah guys so a lot of people
can't have children which they guess is for the greater good and also it reduces the genetic diversity so it means they
have more susceptibility to inherited diseases and it weakens their health because if you have like the same genes
on top of each other top of each other you're not bringing in anything else that can like protect you from other things right makes sense yeah I'm a do
I'm a doctor so I get that like they don't understand genetic ICS and I get that like what you're saying how like
you think everybody else is beneath you but like come on I don't understand how this can be better so Ferdinand the
first is another one around this time he could barely speak FR ferdinand's father Carl Ludwig was a religious fanatic who
terrorized his families and then also for for Rudolph himself his mother's line was from Bavaria but they were also
not great they were also pretty inbred she had a cousin who believed she had swallowed a piano made of glass and like
wouldn't stop talking about it another dude believed was a hero in a Vagner Opera and he would like have picnics
outside in the snow and talk to people who weren't there and like just like really weird Ecentric things and they're
rich like if you're like gonna go crazy go crazy in a castle Yeah lot of mental illness obviously a lot of in breing
okay yeah and also there's a lot of depression so like depression and other other things are happening too and this
is like compounding into this the these these people so now we're in the late 1800s in Vienna in Austria
this story is not a love story like it's a tragedy but there this isn't a love story this isn't like Star Cross lovers
or anything and we'll get into that but I want to make that clear there's a bunch of movies that were made in like
the 60s and 50s and 60s there's one with Audrey heern and Mel FR and Ian they
look so good together I don't know if you've ever seen can you picture them have you ever seen them in war in peace no what's their Nam Audrey heurn and Mel
Ferrer Audrey heurn Audrey he yeah okay y yep and they were married in real life and in I don't know in war in peace for
anyone who knows like bonsky is the [ __ ] worst and he's the person that mare plays um they just look so
beautiful together I'm team Pier she ends up with Jane Fonda's Dad what's his name but anyway they still look great
together and then there's another one where Omar Sharif plays Rudolph do you know who he is yeah you know how I said earlier in this podcast that I don't
believe eyes are the window to your soul is Omar Sharif the one that gets pass for that he is cu Omar sharif's eyes are
always like wet with like romantic pain and desire like imagine him in like the last scene of Dr jaago and you like his
eyes are like always just like really wet yeah which is like part of the
reason why I hate eyes but I also feel like if I'm gonna see anyone so their eyes it's Omar shfs did he die recently yes yeah it's
pretty recent right yeah okay when he died I read a tweet
that it uh someone was a server at a restaurant and they were serving him and they were like I'm so sorry to tell you
that to like bother you but Dr jaago changed my life and Omar Sharif took their hand and said it changed mine too
I love that guy okay anyway watch those movies if you want to cry for seven days where we are now we're in Vienna Vienna
at this time is very romantic it's a very romantic city is in Austria they have tons of museums tons of old houses
it's the house of the Hops bgs for generations for centuries everybody is just like very very very romantic like
they believe that they are and part of that that culture there's a lot of
suicide it's like a big thing there like it happens all the time so like some people are like you shouldn't really go
out in the morning until they've cut down the bodies that are hanging from the trees from last night because like every day someone dies by Suicide
servants will you know die by suicide if they you know break a plate children will children die by suicide if they
like fail a lesson everyone's very being very very dramatic so it's a whole thing and and people really thinking about it
a lot so that's kind of one other things happening in Vienna our main people that were talking about Rudolph France Carl
ysf was born on the 21st of August in 1858 his parents were Emperor France
yoseph Joseph the first of Austria and Duchess Elizabeth of Bavaria but they called his mom [ __ ] his father the
emperor France yoseph he was born in 1830 it's a weird time to be an emperor because this is like things are starting
to modernize you know if you're a part of a dynasty from like the 1200s you know it's a totally different world um
there's some compromises that he has to deal with as different parts of the EMP want to be free this is you know we're
like 50 years after like the US and France have had like their revolutions
so he did make some compromises but he was also a very very very Stern father
he tried to make his son Rudolph Tough by like waking him up by like shooting shooting in his bedroom like wake up you
know like and like have him run in the snow and like do things that he considered to be very manly he was also like very conservative and his son GRE
up to be a little bit more like of a liberal which always Happ usually how it goes yeah his mother [ __ ] was born on
oh so one more thing sorry Emperor France Joseph didn't die until 1916 he died of sickness so he died post World
War I wow he much later his mom Rudolph s [ __ ] she was born on December 24th
1837 in Munich Bavaria she was a daughter of a Duke and a princess she
had she was very beautiful and what what also I think is interesting about these people in the story is it's that
precipice between paintings and photographs because they have the traditional like hugee beautiful
portraits that are painted of them and like huge Regal stuff and there's also photographs of them because it's like
the beginning of when you could have photographs which is interesting and cool so are the portraits in the photos
they align they do cool okay which is good to know I guess for all of history yeah yeah so [ __ ] is uh very beautiful
she has really long hair there there's a a portrait of her holding her hair and like she's like holding it like a baby
she's had so much hair it's like a very intimate portrait that the emperor loved and she did all this like stuff for her
face and body and not that I don't do this cuz I will put like any face oil on my face I will I'll do it seven times a
day like absolutely but she would do things like in the morning she'd take a cold bath at night she'd take an olive oil bath she would sleep with like Rags
soaked with apple cider vinegar around her waist to keep her waist slim and in photos of her her waist is like I mean obviously cor ited but you could like
put your hands around her and touchers each other like that kind of a waist and she just like did all this stuff to remain youthful she had a daughter who
died an in y so you know that happens a lot she tried to write poetry um was passionate about the Arts but she was
also very controlling of her son she loved him a lot but also like wanted him to kind of straighten up and like become
a good heir to the throne I won't get to this but [ __ ] she is the Empress of
austr Hungary and in 1898 she's walking in Geneva with a friend and an Italian Anarchist stabs
her in the heart and kills her while she's walking down the street I'm not going to say that's common but that
seems like a common thing to have happened back then didn't Rasputin get stabbed in the stomach just randomly by someone maybe but he deserved it fair
enough so Rudolph the son of of [ __ ] and France Joseph he's a Playboy he can do whatever he wants like you can when
you're like a prince and he has dozens of Affairs that are very very obvious
like it's very obvious that he's super sexually active they say he might have had up to 30 illegitimate children which
is like too many and also doesn't make sense with Bloodlines like he's having kids all all over the place so where do
they go you know it has to be like the right weird bloodline right which I think is dumb and like in G do you watch
wait did you watch House of dragon I can't remember if you did no I never got around to that one so like the one of
the sons obviously a bunch of them are like do do this and um one of my friends was like it's very convenient that in
the Game of Thrones world that you are guaranteed to have the hair color of your father because like know it's like
it's hilarious it's hilarious they're like oh look all these like kids with white hair they must be so and so you know like it's just really funny Tay
hold on wait speaking of series watching series have you seen any of the New Black Mirror I watched the first two
okay it gets good I mean those are really good and it keeps getting better the last one of the series there's a
whole section where this woman is watching that ra rasu tin oh no way song
yeah it was like God yeah I should and and and one of the main characters one of the lead singers in that song that
came and anyways whatever I'm not going to ruin it but it's fun it's very fun okay I'll get there I can't I can't watch I can watch like two a week before
my like brain explodes so I watch the first two they get intense they get really intense but they were good he has
all these all these kids whenever he breaks off an affair he has someone deliver like a silver cigarette box to
her like to signify that it's over which I think is hilarious and like imagine being like you have you like are
somewhere and like you pull your cigarette box out of your purse and like someone else is the same one you just like look each other and laugh because you know that you both had affair with
this guy that would be nice if you're that's a good way to break up with someone that's classy it's a gift a breakup gift he just like has a room of
them you know so in 1881 Rudolph marries Stephanie of Belgium and they have a
daughter Elizabeth so they have one child but again it's not a man so they need to have a man to to be able to have
an heir to have a boy but Rudolph gets I mean riddled with STDs of course you
know some sources say it's ganara some say it's syphilis he probably has both either one he gives it back to his wife
and it makes her unable to have any more children so he they will not have an air which is like how an SCD could make you
sterile I guess it can't I mean I'm sure they could have had super back then too
yeah I mean it's just so awful I remember yeah I mean must have just been so gross down there for everyone you you
remember what Taylor no I was going to say I remember this is stupid I remember I stopped stop it's a dumb story but I
was in London studying abroad and I was studying uh like diaspora and people coming up to the UK and I was in a
center for immigration and I was walking with a bunch of people and I was at the back of the line with one of my friends
and a door kind of slammed in our face and there was a big poster on it that said could you have goria and we were
both like I don't think I don't think so that's like a that's rud Awakening
moment of like what is going on does this like work Destiny or something fate like did someone slam this door in my
face on purpose could I I I like I don't I don't know so I do not I did not know
but but that was funny so anyway glad I told that story thanks for making me tell that story cuz you started with I
remember we're talking about these anyways whatever anyway so in
1888 Rudolph asks one of his girlfriends Mitsy Casper to do murder murder suicide
with him he's like come on it'll be romantic and she's like no you I'm not doing that with you also in 1888 he
meets another lady at court Mary Vesta who is 17 so Mary 17 Rolph is 30 and
their Affair is like very obvious like everyone knows in the Omar Sharie movie I couldn't watch the whole thing I found
like a clip of them doing the Walts on on YouTube but like they're dancing and everybody's just like G like we [ __ ]
know these two are hooking up you know like annoyed there's also in in one of the Palaces in Vienna there's a stair a
staircase that leads up to rolph's bedroom it's called the theera staircase because she used to sneak up that
staircase to see him sometimes she would sneak up wearing only a fur coat with nothing underneath which is very
scandalous for the time Mary herself was baroness so baroness Marie alexandrine
vone vestra was born in 1871 on March 19th her mother was a pill and wanted
her to be rich so she's like I have these daughters the only reason I have these daughters is that they will marry well and give me like the money and
power that I want so this was not Mary's first rodeo like she's 17 but she's like been in these affairs with with older
rich people for a while her mom's been trying to like get someone to marry her she was I thought this was like really
funny that she had to go she went to school in a Convent called The Institute for daughters of the
nobility like imagine what you learn there yeah no kidding in Reading yeah
exactly exactly so her mom was actively helping with this affair between Mary and Rudolph like everybody everybody
knew there were other people actively helping as well so here's what happened here's the myling incident on January
29th 1889 so they haven't even been together a year they've known each other for a few months Rudolph excuses himself
from a dinner with his family and he heads to myerling which is a hunting lodge outside of Vienna hunting lodge in
that like it's a palace yeah makes sense you know it's like that murdoff thing
where the hunting lodge was like 6,000 square feet exactly exactly I watched there was a show called Versa that I
watched a couple of and there's one where like the king like I'm going to go to Versa and his brother's like uh dad's hunting lodge you know like you do what
one day we're going to have that life tailored so he heads to myling with Mary
on January 30th the next morning Rudolph's valet loek goes to wake him up and the door is locked he can't get it
open he ends up using a hammer and like putting his hand through and unlocking it from the inside and opening the door
when he gets in there Mary's body is laying on the bed she's probably naked she only brought one outfit probably
naked or wearing like her underclothes and uh she had been shot in the head and there was like blood everywhere and she
was pretty far into RI bordis Rudolph's body was leaning over the bed with a bullet in in his head and there was a
mirror next to him so he might have been trying to do a thing like that they had someone else had done recently where you
like use a mirror to shoot yourself like kind of like seeing so you can see the back of your head or whatever he might have been trying that there was also
like blood coming out of his mouth and his skull was shattered so she was in like I said she had been dead before him
there is a there a lot of speculation about what happened and that's kind of going to be what the thing that happens after this but they the in TL of the
Empire the book that I read it it sounds like Mary was sitting up holding a handkerchief so possibly crying on the
edge of the B bed when she was shot in the back of the head and then fell over so he might have just like impulsively shot her in the head with the bodies
there were some Su some suicide letters there were a couple of them more were actually found in 2015 they've been put
into a safety deposit box in 1926 by a relative and they weren't found till 2015 which is cool and those there were
letters like from Mary to her mother and they said things like I W be much happier in death because I can be with him we cannot be together in life we be
together in death and so was the suicide Rudolph Rudolph shot himself and then the bullet went through her head no no
no he killed her hours before he killed himself did she want to die probably but
probably in like a state of to be together yeah like if she if if
it would have been like hey BBE you should take out this she probably wouldn't have you know but it was like a very like emotionally heightened
experience for everyone that they were in because we can you know because because she was more advanced like RI
mortis than he was they know that she Des died a lot ear a lot earlier than he did so he shot her and then like sted at
her body for several hours and there's probably a point of no return for him also because now he's a murderer you
know not that they couldn't have hidden hid that somehow but he's just like kind of going crazy in this room by himself
but we will talk more about like what might have happened in the room in in a little bit so nobody knows what to do
because this guy's the air to the throne he's definitely dead everyone's kind of like trying to figure out how they tell
the emperor and initially they they're like oh she must have poisoned him and then killed herself cuz they can't
imagine that he would do it so they use that story when they tell the emperor and Empress Mary's poor mother even
though she was trying to sell off her daughter you know technically she can't find her daughter and she's like been
looking for her all over town she finally goes to the palace and asks the emperor and the empress tells her that her daughter is dead in like a very cold
a cold way to let her know they said that he died of a heart attack they said that he died of like of it's like a
sickness they their offal story from the emperor and Empress changes several times in the first day or two because
they're not sure what to do eventually they do say that he died by Suicide and because it's just hard to ignore poor
Mary this is crazy so Mary's body they take it and they throw it in a closet and put clothes on top of it and just
kind of hide it for now cuz they don't know what to do her un un Les her mom's Brothers come and get her come and get
her body the people in The Palace are like in in myling the lodge are like you
have to pretend she's still alive like you have to pretend that she's still alive when you're taking your art of her so that no one sees you leaving with a dead body that would be too suspicious
so they make them wash her body get her dressed she had like a ice skating outfit which is like who knows what that
means but like pretty simple dress and like a jacket they put that on her body and they try to carry her out but her
head keeps falling down and her body keeps sumping cuz she's dead dead so they stick a broomstick up her shirt not
up her body but like up her shirt and kind of like tie her head to it and have to carry her out that way was this the
inspiration for Weekend at Bernie's God I don't think so it could have
been it's awful it's awful so they bring her to a church in hian Crites which is
near nearby they don't want to bury her because it's a suicide everything's everyone's very Catholic they don't want
to bury her but the uncle convinced them to let her be buried there in a simple Pine Box because she was in like a state
of mental distress when she died also I don't believe that she killed herself I think he killed her you know later her
mother exed her body and buried her in like a nicer Cemetery during World War II that Cemetery was destroyed by the
Soviets and they bashed all the bodies when they robbed them so they like robbed her grave and like just smashed her bones then her bones were were
reburied in the ' 50s they exed her again to look for a bullet wound in her skull cuz like people were kind of like
maybe she wasn't shot even though she definitely was and you can't you couldn't tell anymore because the Bones
have been crushed you know where was she was she shot in the back of the head yeah then why would they think it's a s
who could do that to themselves I know they're just trying to like make sense of what just happened you know yeah
they're trying to protect the the air yeah and so in the 90s a man the 1990s a
man was obsessed with the mying incident he tricked the cemetery into giving them her her remain so he could study them so
he took them again and he end up getting arrested and giving them back but like poor Mary's body was just like treated like
garbage the moment at this point we one of us could have part of her skull it sounds like people really easy easy
breezy with it yeah she also just like after that after this people didn't start talking about Mary until later
when people started talking about the demise of the Empire so she was just like disappeared like she used to be like in society papers and people were
friends and then one day she was gone people just like stopped talking about her cuz they were trying to hide what had happened Rudolph's body was taken
and they had to reconstruct his skull for aate burial there's pictures of it he has like a big bandage over his head
because his skull was like destroyed and um they had to get special permission
from the pope to bury him with his family like not just like the church but like the actual Pope had to be like it
was okay and they got the permission because they said that he was insane when he had died by Suicide which was he
shot in the back of the head too no okay he shot him temp okay I was say there's
some questions that don't sound like they were being asked but it sounds like maybe they were yeah yeah no he was definitely he definitely shot himself in
the face he was probably bipolar it sounds like so he was like you know
super high high super low lows and he's probably in like a high high of being excited about this idea of like going to
to death with his lover and the same time like also being like super low and like suicidal so he definitely had a lot
like going on people didn't want this to be the case like they didn't want it to be a murder suicide because it's so
awful and like confusing and it like destroyed the line and all these things there's a couple conspiracies and and
things that people think might have happened so some people and this is what they've been like kind of speculating on for like hundreds of years they think
that maybe it was a a political conspiracy and Rudolph was most likely
talking to the Hungarian side of the Empire more than he should have been and about to like go against his father in
some ways so he was like also involved in like those Shenanigans so like someone could have killed him for that
other theories were like maybe it was an accident like maybe he was like playing with his gun and shot her cuz like that
happens in America right now so don't give me that face far as that happens all the time but I mean like okay so it
happens with like kids or with like drunk Hillbillies when you're like with your
lover in like this Regal like you're not just like hey let's play let's play cat with the with the revolver that's fair
also but he was definitely drunk oh okay well you know again details yeah that
helps I'm sorry I had to tell you they were drunk this whole time and the the so now now it's
sounding like an Alabama story I get it now yeah so people were like well maybe the gun discharged and then chopped them
both at the same time like went through him and then hit her that's crazy that could never happen I guess like well whatever I'm saying that no some people
were said that when they saw him he had glass in his skull so they said that she had smashed him over the head with the
champagne bottle in a rage and then killed herself it doesn't make sense obviously because we know she died hours before him so he definitely she
definitely died first another theory that people thought for a long time was that maybe she had a abortion and died
from complications of that but like a complication of abortion is not getting shot in the head yeah that's not how
that works so what it probably is and what I've been saying it all the time like it's fun because of the conspiracies but what it is is a murder
suicide he was in an unhappy marriage he wanted to do something dramatic and she
was just very very vulnerable she's 17 years old like this Prince is telling you that he loves you that he can't live
without you you know all the things so maybe they got into some sort of argument when they were in the room
together maybe she was pregnant and he was like well great I also have I have
another this my 31st illegitimate child like [ __ ] you and I'm not going to marry you still you know and and they were
fighting and maybe like that was a thing maybe he went there to break up with her and like she like wouldn't take it and
she like wouldn't accept it so he shot her and then was so upset and worried and all of that that he ended up
shooting himself he was never going to get divorced he was never going to going to marry her it's only really a mystery
because people want it to be you know cuz you don't know what happened in that room and that is so fascinating that you're like what causes these two people
to have him shoot her and then wait for so long by himself like some people said
the room was covered in blood some people said the room was covered in like smashed glass and it was like disarray so for like hours he's what drinking and
throwing glass around and the door is locked and everyone else is asleep and no one knows he's doing this and then he
you know then he dies so it's I think the mystery of what actually happened I don't think is very mysterious like he
killed her and then himself but I think that the mystery of like the why will never be answered and like what it was
like in those like last minutes of her life and then like the last hours of his where he's there by himself you know our
stories are going to be so similar they are yeah yeah again we don't coordinate
any of this I have no idea what T is going to talk about she has no idea what I'm going to talk about we just hop on Just go with it but like we have a lot
of through lines on the these two stories oh so crazy crazy so after this
Rudolph's uncle was supposed to be the next in line but he didn't want to be so his son France Ferdinand became the next
in line France Ferdinand was not the emperor when he was assassinated he was just the heir to the emperor but um as
we know that started off off World War I and one of the YouTube videos I watched they were like we can't say that if this
hadn't happened that there would not have been a World War I but they do feel comfortable saying that Rudolph would
not have been where France ferad was when he was shot like he wouldn't have been that involved in politics the way France Ferdinand was it might have been
it might have been different Rudolph's wife Elizabeth was kind of shunned by the family everyone was like really mad at her she went off and like ended up
they live their life in a different part of Europe and she was involved in just like she's she's buried in the family in the family plot his daughter Elizabeth
she married the arch Duke Fran Salvador of Austria tuxanny they had 10 10 children so some of their children
didn't die until like the late 1970s so some of rolph's grandchildren lived until the 70s which is is wild because
it's like I said like it's just this that time is such a I think like marker between like modern and like
what we think of like as like history you know yeah yeah and that's and and that's it so it's it it's a tragic not
love story because they were they were barely together you know it's not like a love story but it's like a a thing that
happened that changed history for a lot of people so what's the righted flag um I think that he was married and had
raging SDS and had 30 illegitimate children and that her mom was trying to essentially sell her to him okay so
you're saying that if somebody's married and has 30 illegitimate
children maybe like look the other way if someone if you're dating someone and they're pre-ordering a goodby gift when
they wake up with you then that's that's a red flag if you open a closet in your
boyfriend's house and it's just 50 calabas saying thanks for the good times
just dip immediately it's not going to end well he one of them has your name and graved in it and like you're like oh
no I'm about to get broken up that is a good idea that is like I'm not saying
I'm going to do that but I'm not not going to do that if you break up with fires you get a cigars and jars with
fars yes instead instead of a cigarette cigarette case yes get a jar of cigars
that I Source from China yeah my friend George suggested this so thanks George because it was cool listen to and the
book that the book I read the Twilight of an Empire was really really good um I recommend it nice nice very cool well we
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