Wooo sports! The Women's Pro Baseball League starts up on Aug 1 - and the four official teams are named after four incredible women! Let's learn about them! The San Francisco Firebells are named for - Firebell Lil - aka Lillie Hitchcock Colt - a firefighting volunteer & patron The New York Heights are named for - Dorthy Height - a Civll and Women's rights leader right up there with MLK The Boston Hunters are named for - Harriot Kezia Hunt - who, despite not being allowed to go to medical school, had a thriving medical practice and saved countless lives The Los Angeles Queens are named for Lizzie Murphy - the Queen of Baseball, who played on many a men's team throughout the early 20th century Let's gooooooooo
Wooo sports! The Women's Pro Baseball League starts up on Aug 1 - and the four official teams are named after four incredible women! Let's learn about them!
The San Francisco Firebells are named for - Firebell Lil - aka Lillie Hitchcock Colt - a firefighting volunteer & patron
The New York Heights are named for - Dorthy Height - a Civll and Women's rights leader right up there with MLK
The Boston Hunters are named for - Harriot Kezia Hunt - who, despite not being allowed to go to medical school, had a thriving medical practice and saved countless lives
The Los Angeles Queens are named for Lizzie Murphy - the Queen of Baseball, who played on many a men's team throughout the early 20th century
Let's gooooooooo
Taylor is this close to buying a Holland jersey
>> Taylor: In the matter of the people of State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA097.
>> Farz: And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you. Boom. Taylor, we are live.
>> Taylor: I am this close, this close to buying a Holland jersey. That's how excited I am for this game leader. And I've had a very merch heavy year, and I've bought a lot of merch as, like, three hitted rivalry shirts. I'm like, why would I not buy an early call in Jersey?
>> Farz: Oh. Oh, I thought you meant Holland to country.
>> Taylor: No, Holland the giant, delightful man.
>> Farz: The giant Viking man. You know what's funny is he came up randomly. I said, I went to a dinner with. With Rachel last night, and we sat at this bar and this guy just turned around and was, like, talking to me about him. And I only know anything about soccer for, like, five weeks.
>> Taylor: Yeah. And then it's gone every four years.
>> Farz: That's totally gone. Yeah. And I was trying to, like, I was trying to hang with this guy, and I was like, you know what, man? I actually totally capped out on all my soccer knowledge.
>> Taylor: Football Erling Holland jersey. It's just like, been the most. It's just been delightful. He has 60 million followers on Instagram.
>> Farz: He is delightful. I. Yeah, it's been awesome. Yeah. I'm going to go downtown, watch him play. It's such a big sporting thing going on today. We got that. And then as that's going on, the early prelims for the UFC fight are happening, so I need to, like, watch that somewhere. And then it's. It's a big sporting day.
>> Taylor: Yeah. I literally am like, I'm listening to audiobooks because I'm doing a lot of, like, painting. I'm just giving you a 20% coupon to potentially buy this Holland jersey right now that we're talking.
>> Farz: But I'm so expensive.
>> Taylor: 16. This one's $69. I get 20% off.
>> Farz: Okay, so it's not an official one, because the official ones, like, I think it's Adidas is the sponsor. I think the official ones were, like, 170 or something.
>> Taylor: No. I'm going to add this to my cart. Well, I'm going to think about it. So. Wait, wait, wait. I lost it. Was I going to tell you about that? But, yeah, I know. I'm excited. And I'm going to watch the game as well by myself.
>> Farz: And you've been by yourself, actually, if you want to introduce us and then we can talk.
Doomed to Fail brings you historical disasters and failures and interesting stories
>> Taylor: Hi, everyone. Welcome to Doomed to Fail. We bring you historical disasters and failures and interesting stories. And I'm Taylor, joined by Fars, and we're soccer fans this week. Yeah, I imagine.
>> Farz: But I know. I will say I. This is the part that I don't totally love when it becomes, like, the final rounds. Because then it's like, there's a game every, like, three days, as opposed to, like, three, four games a day. Because that was really exciting to have, like. Yeah, because it's so fun. It, like, it brings everybody together. Like, it's such a cool experience. So. And I started looking into 2020. What is it? 20, 20, 30. Yeah, I guess 20. The 2030 World Cup. And that's gonna be Portugal, Spain. And because it's a one century, they're gonna go back and play some games in the original home of the World cup, which was. I think it was Argentina. And I've got the other ones. So. Anyways, whatever. We'll plan that out in four years.
>> Taylor: I can't. I can't wait. I will. I can't. It's gonna be so fun. Yeah, I'm very excited. No, I remember what I was gonna say. I'm listening to audiobooks and talking to my mom on the phone and, like, doing things, and the entire time in the back of my head is the Holland Holland in that song about him?
>> Farz: No.
>> Taylor: Have you not been on the Internet this week?
>> Farz: I mean, I have, but I get a lot of funny memes about, like, memes I get are like. Like, here's what he looks like when he's chasing down another man and he's.
>> Taylor: I feel like you just don't have a sound on when you're watching them. Because it would. If you have a sound on, it would be that song. That's the only song that's on the Internet right now.
>> Farz: That's very funny.
>> Taylor: It's been fun.
>> Farz: It's been fun.
>> Taylor: I have a sports story to tell you. Sports, is it.
>> Farz: It's not about the guy React do right.
>> Taylor: No. Who got killed.
>> Farz: The Colombian guy who scored on his own goal and then he went home and was killed the next week.
>> Taylor: No, that one was sad. That sucks.
>> Farz: But I found out. Fun. Fun fact. I found out the guy who. The cartel boss who ordered that hit because he lost a shitload of money on him. He died like a month ago. He got shot in some restaurant and killed, which is.
>> Taylor: That's scary.
>> Farz: So, yeah. Quite tall stuff. Totally scary. Anyways, go ahead. Sorry I interrupted.
>> Taylor: Anyway, mine's not a doom story. It's a fun story and I told you already that I've been crying. So I just literally wrote in cap several times in my, my outline. I'm probably crying.
>> Farz: That sounds great. I don't know why Taylor does this, by the way, for the audience that listens. This is also why I don't like. I don't like sappy movies. Like, it's not that I don't feel things, it's just like, why do people voluntarily choose, make themselves feel bad? There's a whole range and spectrum of human emotions and there's one that you don't want, but people opt into it and I don't get it.
>> Taylor: I don't get it either. I also like, don't, don't, don't do that a lot. Like, I don't watch sad movies. I watched Back Rooms last night. It was pretty good.
>> Farz: It was pretty good.
>> Taylor: Yeah. And then I don't watch that movies like I did, obviously. Like I talk about that book I read in February that made me cry out February. But that's like an anomaly. It's not like normal.
There's a new professional women's hockey league that's starting this year
So anyway, now, okay, I'm going to stop looking at the Hollanders League and tell you a little bit about women's baseball because guess what? There's a new baseball league. It's for the ladies and it's starting this year.
>> Farz: I didn't even know there was a women's baseball.
>> Taylor: It literally has not started playing yet. It will play this year.
>> Farz: What is it? Wmmlb.
>> Taylor: No, I do have it written down somewhere. I'll get to it. But I'm going to tell you a little bit of history about women's baseball. And then there are four. Don't look it up yet. Just wait. There are four new teams, obviously, because it's a new, A new year. And I'm going to tell you about who each of the teams is named after, because each of the new baseball teams for the women's baseball are named after a woman from history who is awesome. So I'm excited. There's also a new not. I'm not going to talk about it yet because I don't even have names yet, but there's a new professional women's hockey league. It's called Professional Women's Hockey League, that. I know that one. And then Las Vegas is going to get a team. And statistically they're way more likely to kiss than people in the NHL. So I'm very excited.
>> Farz: I would, I would actually agree with that.
>> Taylor: I didn't look at that statistic, but I'm 100% sure. It's true.
>> Farz: It's true, too. You'll have to look it up.
>> Taylor: So I'm. That is exciting. So baseball as a sport became popular in the United states in the 1850s, and women were playing it immediately, obviously, because women have always played sports. And there are some cute little historical things. Like the first African American women's team was formed in Philadelphia in 1867. It was called the Dolly Vardens. The first time women were paid and people bought tickets was in 1875 in Springfield, Illinois. It was the blondes versus the brunettes. I think that was just their names, not their thing.
>> Farz: Personal distinguishing characteristics.
>> Taylor: Yes. Springfield, Illinois, is actually going to be where all of the women's baseball games are going to be played for now. So they're not going to be in the cities that they represent. Like, they're actually all going to be in Springfield for now, and then they're going to, like, expand from there as it, like, goes. So, as you know, women play baseball. Of course, during the World wars, there really was a Dottie. Her name was Dottie Wiltsey Collins, and there really were Rockford Peaches. I literally, at one point had to say to myself, I will not watch League of Their Own anymore because I cry so much.
>> Farz: I was. When you said, of course. I was like, okay. She's talking about League of Their Own.
>> Taylor: Of course. Yeah. I cannot watch it. I cannot even think about the end. I'll sing the song. Nope. I cry. Cry so much. I had. I was, like, young, and I was like, I can't watch this ever again because I cry too much.
>> Farz: Don't. Don't watch things that make you sad.
>> Taylor: I'm not going to. That's why I said so. But, but. But all throughout, you know, the past, you know, the hundred years before and the years after the war, there's been women playing baseball. In 1974, the National Organization for Women sued the Little League to allow girls to play. So they created softball teams for the girls. Now, in my Little League, girls play softball, the boys play baseball, but there's no rule stopping the girls from playing baseball. There was one girl who played baseball. There is no actual reason for girls to play softball and boys to play baseball. Like, nothing, like, physically. That, like, makes it better for. For girls to play softball. It really is that with Title 9 money in the 1970s going to schools and universities, the more teams they had, the more money they would make. So they separated men and women and had men play baseball, play softball.
>> Farz: Basically makes sense. Is it the only difference of softball is that it's an underhand pitch and the ball's bigger. Yes.
>> Taylor: And the other difference is that that in baseball, the pitching mound is about 17ft further from home plate, and it's closer in softball. So in softball, you have less time to react to the ball coming towards you. It's like milliseconds. But still, that's. That's the biggest difference.
>> Farz: Okay.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Yeah.
>> Farz: Also, is there professional softball?
>> Taylor: Yes.
>> Farz: Okay.
>> Taylor: I think so. I have no idea, actually. I said that very confidently.
>> Farz: You did? Yeah.
The Women's Pro Baseball League is scheduled to start in 2024
I believed you.
>> Taylor: I don't know. But I do know that there is a women's World Series. It's. And in 2001, the US won the gold medal. That was in the first one. There's a women's baseball World cup every, like, four years, and Japan has won it for the last, like, 20 years. They just are killing it. So that's exciting. But now it's coming to the United States for real. And then I'm like, what. Did I even write down what it is called, what this new league is called? Hold on, Let me.
>> Farz: It's called Women's Pro Baseball league.
>> Taylor: Yes, the women's pro baseball league, the WPBL, which is starting this year, started in 2024, and then finally actually gonna start playing. There are four teams. All games will be in Springfield, Illinois. Like I said, they are the Boston Hunters, the Los Angeles Queens, the New York Heights and the San Francisco Fire Belts. So here's who they're named after. The Boston Hunters are named after Harriet Kezia Hunt. She lived from 1805 to 1875. She was a doctor and an educator when she. In the Boston area. When she was younger, she was a teacher, but she didn't love it. And her sister got sick. And she spent a lot of time with the doctors who took care of her sister. And they had, like, a different. Like, a different approach to medicine that, like, than, like, other doctors in the area. They were a little bit more with, like, you should rest and, like, maybe take an herb rather than, like, bleeding people and stuff like that. Like, a little more aggressive medicine. And she really liked it. But she wasn't allowed to go to medical school. She was the first woman to apply to Harvard medical school in 1840, 47. And by that time, she already had a consulting room, which is, like, people would go to her. Like, they would go to a doctor, you know, like, I don't think people had, like, a lot of insurance or, like, what.
>> Farz: Barbers also. Surgery. Surgeons.
>> Taylor: Exactly. So she, like, didn't have to have a degree to do this. She just, like, was like, people would come over and she would, like, help them, and then she would really work a lot with, like, promoting, like, preventative medicine. That what we would say now, like, eating healthy, exercising, resting, things like that. That really weren't part. What a doctor would do when they. When they saw you during that time. So 1847, she. Because she had that experience, she applied to Harvard Medical School. They considered letting her in, but then the. The. All of the. The male students, like, the students were like, absolutely not. You know, I would never want to.
>> Farz: Like, this is West Point circa.
>> Taylor: What if she, like, gets her period? You know, like, what. What would happen? So they. She was not admitted. Guess when Harvard let a woman into the medical school. So in 1847, she was the first woman to apply. Guess when they let someone.
>> Farz: It had to be like the 1930s, 1945. Oh, I was close.
>> Taylor: Because all the men were gone.
>> Farz: Oh, yeah, right, of course.
>> Taylor: So they needed. They needed students.
>> Farz: Men were dead.
>> Taylor: Yeah. So just like women's baseball. There were no men to play baseball during World War II. There were also no men to go to medical school. So they finally were like, we'll let you in, girls.
>> Farz: I kind of almost feel like the capitalistic instinct behind these decisions is like, the more pervasively problematic thing, which is like, we got to keep making money off tuition.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: What else we got?
>> Taylor: It wasn't because they, like.
>> Farz: It wasn't altruistic. It was because, like, we gotta. We gotta fill these seats.
>> Taylor: Exactly, exactly, exactly what it was. But she did receive an honorary MD from the Female Medical College of Philadelphia in 1853. She was also a speaker. She lectured on abolition. She protested taxation without voting rights for women and promoted women being in careers that were reserved for men. She had a her at the party for her 25th anniversary of her medical practice. There were 1500 people there, three generations of her patients. So she really, like, saved a lot of lives and helped a lot of people, even though she wasn't allowed to, like, officially be. Be a doctor and go and go to medical school. Her advice to women was, I have been so happy in my work, every moment occupied. How I long to whisper in the ear of every listless woman. Do something, if you would. You would be happy. And then I wrote, I'm probably crying now in all caps, but I'm not.
The Boston Hunters are named after Harriet Hunt. She was a firefighter and nicknamed Firebell Lil
So I'm very proud of myself. So those are the Boston Hunters, named after Harriet Hunt. The next, we have the San Francisco Fire Bells. So it's one word. Fire Bells. They're named after Elizabeth Hitchcock Colt. She lived from 1843 to 1929. She was a firefighter and nicknamed Firebell Lil. So that's why they're named after her.
>> Farz: That's fun.
>> Taylor: Yeah. So I wrote, she seems. She seems fun. She smoked cigars. She wore pants. She would dress like a man to go out gambling. You know, like, fun stuff like that. She inherited a lot of money and did a lot of traveling. When she was 15, she saw a firefighter engine that was shorthanded going up a hill in San Francisco, and she kind of jumped on to help them, and she became, like, their unofficial official mascot and would be with them in parades. And there's pictures of her wearing, like, her fireman hat. And, like, she was. Would, like, you know, donate money to the. To the firemen. She would be there when they, like, got sick. She would be there when they died for their families. And she was just with them a lot. She was a real. A real guy's girl working with the fire department. And then when she passed away, she gave one third of her money to the city of San Francisco, and they built the Coit Tower, which is something that you would know if you were in San Francisco. It's like a landmark. So. So, yes, she seems fun. Little. Little fire. Fire bell. Little.
>> Farz: Little firecracker. You're gonna say firecracker, weren't you?
>> Taylor: Yeah, maybe a little firecracker, but yeah. So she seems great.
Next we have the Los Angeles Queens named after Lizzie Murphy
Next we have the Los Angeles Queens named after the queen of baseball, Lizzie Murphy. She lived from 1894 to 1964. She was just, like, a great f****** baseball player. She named herself the Queen of Baseball, and she also called herself Spike Murphy. So. Also fun. But she played for, like, a ton of professional men's teams. Just, like, on the team. She was, like, on the roster. She was the first woman to play in a game against any major league players in 1922. She played on the All Star teams. She was the first person, male or female, to play in the All Star teams for both the American and National leagues. She played with the Providence Independence, which was, like, the men's team. And then she was in on a team called the Ed Cars Traveling All Stars, who I imagine are like the Savannah Bananas. They don't really get. Because they just, like, play for fun, I think.
>> Farz: I don't really give it. Yeah, I don't really know what to
>> Taylor: do, but it's delightful.
>> Farz: It's like prison leagues, like, they just exist.
>> Taylor: So she was a pitcher, a first Base, first base person and a great hitter. She played for the women's leagues on the team bloomer girls for 30 years. And she was really, you know, big on her own publicity. Like she would stay after games and sell her own picture and, you know, give her autograph to people and really like made herself into the queen of baseball and was one of like the first women to like, really pioneer it and be there, which is cool.
>> Farz: So, yeah, I also really like their logo. Yeah, I don't know why. It feels really unique that that's the
>> Taylor: queue with the stars.
>> Farz: Yeah, it's like, it's like the simplest one out of them, but for some reason it's like I got a cool like casino gambling vibe to it that I like.
>> Taylor: Yeah, it's fun. I'm. It's going to be exciting. I think it's going to be fun. And then our last one is the New York Heights, named for Dorothy Height. Dorothy Height lived from 1912 to 2010. She was an African American civil and women's rights activist. She was one of the first people to say from within the civil rights movement because she was one of like the big six, like with Martin Luther King. She was out there and you don't hear a lot about her, like a lot of people probably have, but you don't hear about her as much as you hear about other people because media just didn't talk about her because she's a woman, you know, but she was there doing all the things with Martin Luther King, with that group of people. She was one of the first people from inside the civil rights movement to say, like, you have to include women in all these decisions, like we have to come in together rather than like separated by sexism. She was a president of the National Council for Negro women for 40 years. She started to be politically active when she was in school, like in, in like high school because she was barred from swimming in the YWCA pool. And she wanted to be able to, you know, do that. And she would with the YWCA for many, many years in New York and on the east coast she did. She would do speeches against lynching. And she was accepted to Barnard in 1929. But she was denied entrance because there was like a not written down rule, but like side rule that they only admitted two black students per year. So they wouldn't, didn't they let her. They accepted her. But then it was like she was like third or whatever and they wouldn't, they didn't let her in. So she went to nyu. She Got a bachelor's and a master's and then did more work at Columbia. She worked for the New York Department of Welfare, where she met Eleanor Roosevelt. Meet with, With. With Eleanor a couple times. There's a picture of them together in 1960 as well. But she met her in the. In the 20s and 30s. She was. She wrote a column for the New York Amsterdam News called the Women's World, Just talking about women's rights within the context of. Of civil rights and civil liberties. She has so many awards and so many different, like, committees and things that she was on. One of the interesting ones is she was. She was on the National Commission for the Protection of Human Subjects of Biomedical and Behavioral Research. And that if you. That was directly created after the Tuskegee syphilis experiments as a way to be like, you know, people need to know what they're doing. Like, you can't experiment on humans. So she was like, a part of that committee. She formed the African American Women for Reproductive Freedom. She has. She received the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Bill Clinton. She received a Congressional Gold Medal from George Bush. And when she passed away in 2010, Obama did her eulogy and he called her the godmother of civil rights movement and a hero to so many Americans.
>> Farz: Man. She died old, too. 98 years old. Good for her.
>> Taylor: I know. And she said, quote, I want to be remembered as someone who used herself and anything she could touch to work for justice and freedom. I want to be remembered as one who tried.
>> Farz: That's awesome.
>> Taylor: I know.
>> Farz: I like all their logos, now that I think about it, because even the New York one has this, like, retro look to it. That's really cool.
>> Taylor: I'm a little worried that they might change because they're just like. It's like the beginning of it. But no, hopefully they stay. I like them, too.
>> Farz: I am very, very pro. It's really cool when people start sports leagues, I think.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: I don't know. It's just. There's like, man, you gotta have, like, a lot of determination and drive. Like, that is not an easy thing to do, but you gotta also have a lot of money. But, like, it's not an easy thing to do. And I don't know, there's something really wildly aspirational about it. That's intriguing.
>> Taylor: I know it's exciting, and I hope that they do well.
A League of Their Own will play in Springfield, Illinois
And I'm excited to. I would say, to watch it. You know, it's gonna be fun.
>> Farz: So. So if there's only four teams, well, they're okay.
>> Taylor: So they're all going to play in Springfield. So I think what they're going to do is just like live there, like live in Illinois and then, you know, play the games there and then hopefully be able to like build or like participate, you know.
>> Farz: But how many variations. Hold on, I should know this. No, you can only play. You can only play 16 games total, right?
>> Taylor: Well, it probably will, like. Yeah, I don't know, but they're gonna play. They're gonna play less games than like the 7 million baseball games per season in men's baseball. Probably. But I wonder. I think. Let's see if their schedule is online. Schedule, actually.
>> Farz: Yeah, I think that's right. I think they can only play 16 games.
>> Taylor: It looks like there's more than 16. They can play as many games as they want to. I feel like I've seen more than 16 on this page. They have. The first one is August 1st, Los Angeles versus New York.
>> Farz: And you said they're all. Oh, you're right. They're all in Springfield.
>> Taylor: But they're going to hopefully move on. I guess there's other. Oh, my God. I want. No. Well, crap. Now I want these jerseys.
>> Farz: I mean, they are really cool. Okay, so, so are. Do they play on like a regulation, like MLB regulation sized field and.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Yeah.
>> Farz: Interesting. It'll be fun to see how it plays out.
>> Taylor: The tryouts were at the nationals field, so I think so. Yeah. That's where. That's where they did it. And then I. Oh, my God. All these jerseys are sold out already.
>> Farz: Well, that's a good sign.
>> Taylor: It's a really good sign. I'm very excited. Oh, the, the. The fun merch that says we play hardball. I love it. I love it. I'm excited.
>> Farz: Yeah. A lot of this stuff is sold out.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Isn't cool?
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: You can.
>> Farz: Oh, my. It's all sold out. No, no, no. You can get the New York team hoodie in black.
>> Taylor: Okay. Crap.
>> Farz: Which you can't wear for a while in your case.
>> Taylor: I know.
>> Farz: And they're actually pricing their merch reasonably. Like, man, you go buy like a regulation Dallas Cowboys jersey. That's the second mortgage on your house. Well, that's fun. And you didn't cry.
>> Taylor: I didn't cry. I just will not think about A League of Their Own. And it's good. I'm excited.
>> Farz: I think women are allowed to play in the NFL, aren't they?
>> Taylor: I think. I feel like that's a good question.
>> Farz: Yeah. They're legally allowed to play in the NFL. Yeah. NFL has a. No Gender restriction rule. But, man, like, that. That would be. That would be tough. I mean, if you were to put, like.
>> Taylor: I mean, a kicker, because that job's easy. But, like, you shouldn't be, like, a linebacker.
>> Farz: Yeah.
The United States invests less in soccer than other sports, Chad says
>> Taylor: I mean, no one should.
>> Farz: Honestly, nobody should. I was really doing the math, and I was like, if you were to take the number one NCAA team and put them against the worst NFL team, they would probably. The NFL team would probably win 7 million to zero every single time.
>> Taylor: Yeah, it would just be. It would be a lot. And I've also been. Well, I was also thinking. I was talking to my dad about this last night because, like, Holland again, who everyone can't stop thinking about, he. Everybody's like, why don't he. We have. In the United States, like, if he. If he grew up in America, he'd be like, a basketball player, you know, like, he just, like, wouldn't be a soccer player. Like that. We just, like, don't. We don't. We, like, invest so much less in that sport than in other sports, though.
>> Farz: I learned a lot about that because I was really curious as to why the US Is so bad at this. And you remember Lance Donovan, who was like, the. The IT guy in US Soccer for the longest time. There's a bunch of World Cups. Okay. If you saw him, you recognize them, because he was everywhere when we were kids.
>> Taylor: Like, I do know that the women's have won it four times.
>> Farz: Oh, well, there you go. Yeah.
>> Taylor: For the United States. And we've never won. We were third place in, like, 1920.
>> Farz: I don't. I don't totally understand it, because I don't see why it would be different for women than for men. But what he was saying was he was on a bunch of podcasts. He's trying to, like, do something similar to what you're talking about, like, doing his own league kind of a thing, but for. But for kids. And he was like, yeah. When I was coming up, he was like, my mom made, like, 40 grand a year, and we were like one of those teens where you got to travel and get hotels and flights and this and that and the other thing. And he was like, the only way I was able to do it was because somebody decided to, like, fund me to do it. But, like, what. He's. What? He was basically, he said some stat where it was like, only 2% of kids who are playing peewee to youth soccer in the United States have a household income of 50,000 or less because it's just too expensive. And he was like, that's the problem is like all the other sports, it's so ubiquitous. Like you can play in your own town because there's a baseball team and a basketball team and a football team all around you. But you can't do that with soccer because it's not as ubiquitous. That's the, the gating function is the only people end up doing it are the people who come from wealthy, which like you're cutting off a huge pool of people when you do that.
>> Taylor: I think like once you get to travel, anything is just so expensive. Like travel ball and all of that. Like, I just signed the kids up for soccer. It was like 160 per, per kid for the, for the season, in the fall. And like, you don't need a lot of stuff at least when you're just like playing it like, you know, recreationally, like baseball. Like some of the girls that are, that are, you know, serious about softball, they have like bets that are like $500. And I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. Like, I don't know how it can be that much better than like a.
>> Farz: Yeah, just go get a two by four.
>> Taylor: No, well, but, but also, but sorry, real fast. But the women's thing, I think potentially that is because it's the. If you want to play professional women's sports, like soccer is kind of the one, you know, because I know.
>> Farz: But then, but then on a national level or, sorry, an international level, why are the women more successful than the men?
>> Taylor: Because better.
>> Farz: But you can't say that across the entire globe.
>> Taylor: No, but I don't, but I don't, I don't know why it is like that in the US I don't know.
>> Farz: That's weird. Yeah, I don't know. That's worth investigating because usually like what, what that Lance Donovan guy was also saying was like. Or he was talking to Chad Ochocinko and when he was talking to him, he was like, yeah, I knew that if I don't perform, I'm going to have a horrible life. And so I killed myself to become a professional in this sport. And that's what Lance was saying too. He's like, yeah, when you're in a lot of these countries, they have to be the best, otherwise their lives are just abysmal. And there's like a different driver behind it. Which is why the whole women's soccer thing is different to me. Because it's like if they're only able to have the top, the richest families send their daughters to play soccer, but they're also competing against people in, like, Paraguay or wherever else were, like, starving, and they're, you know.
>> Taylor: Yeah. And I also. That's a good question, and I don't know the answer, because I also know that, like, women, young women who, like, go to college and play softball with. Unlike a scholarship, some of them die by suicide because it's so stressful. It's, like, a really hard thing to be, like, on a softball scholarship for whatever reason.
>> Farz: Weird.
>> Taylor: And then that. I think that, like, recently, like, in the past, like, you know, couple years, like, several of them have died by suicide. And so I don't like, why.
>> Farz: Because they feel the pressure to perform. Otherwise they have to go back to, like, their old lives.
>> Taylor: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Farz: That's gotta be rough. They didn't talk about that too. Apparently, he wasn't allowed to play in, like, the. The Gold cup or some. And he was saying it was because I decided to take, like, time off. My mental health. Because I felt the pressure of this performer was so high that. And then he. And then Ocho Cinco was like, yeah, I felt the same pressure, but I couldn't take that time off, because if I took that time off, they're like, cool, take the time off. And there's another. There's four more guys behind you waiting for that position.
>> Taylor: Mm. A lot.
The mental pressure is the only reason why professional athletes never cut it out
Yeah. I don't know.
>> Farz: This is why we're not professional athletes, Taylor. Because it's the mental. The mental pressure is the only reason why we never cut it out in professional.
>> Taylor: Physically. I could absolutely do it, right? Correct.
>> Farz: You'd be the best running back in the NFL right now if it wasn't for the mental game.
>> Taylor: Here comes Taylor. She's five, three, running through the guys.
>> Farz: You could do it.
>> Taylor: Oh, my God. Also, another funny thing, you know, and everybody's like, you know, super young, obviously. Like, you can't be old and play sports. But the guy who was the goalie for Cape. For Cabo Verde, he was. It was 40. Did you ever. Did you watch their games?
>> Farz: That was incredible. It's Cape Verde.
>> Taylor: It's. I thought it was both. Is it. I don't know.
>> Farz: I thought it was cape. They keep saying Cape verde On the TV. On the TV. Like, I'm 80.
>> Taylor: No, it's both.
>> Farz: All right, I'll stand. Correct, then.
>> Taylor: It's also referred to in English by its Portuguese name, Cabo Verde. It's a republic of Cabo Verde. But that guy looked 40.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: Like, he's. I was like, that is the first person I've seen. No, all My friends are in their 40s who, like, I'd be like, yeah, no, that guy looks 40. He looks rough.
>> Farz: I can't imagine how stressful it is for like 36 years of your life to have balls kicked in your face at 100 miles per hour, 15 times a minute. That's kind of what. That's got to stress you out.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Against Argentina. I mean, it was. I saw a cute video of like afterwards them taking their pictures with Messi, you know.
>> Farz: Yeah, yeah.
>> Taylor: You're a superstar. And we are normal people who are just happened to be good. And that's cool.
>> Farz: That was really cool because the whole country I looked up was 500,000 people.
>> Taylor: Yeah, I heard that they like advertise on like LinkedIn for the team. Like, they didn't.
>> Farz: They don't have a team.
>> Taylor: They're just like, hey, anybody play soccer? Don't try this. We're a country, you know. That's cool.
>> Farz: So, so. Bob Lasso.
>> Taylor: That's fun. Ted Lasso. It's fun.
>> Farz: Ted Lasso. Sorry.
>> Taylor: Yeah. So I will take this knowledge into the fall soccer season where I will complain about how allergic I am to the soccer field the entire time and I will think about how much I don't understand what offsides is and I will watch those games. I did my. I do. My friend Shannon and I were talking and about soccer and her daughter Taylor is a ref. Like you can like have that as a job as a teen. And she says that like some of the adults swear at her, like at her daughter.
>> Farz: It's crazy.
>> Taylor: It's crazy. I'm sorry. She's like a 15 year old girl. What is wrong with you?
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: And this is children's soccer. Like, nope.
>> Farz: I was a ref too in high school for, for youth. Like, like basketball. I was horrible at it because I wasn't paying attention at all. I would just face out and just be like thinking about the place I want to go for dinner that night and just totally face down, made the worst calls ever. And the parents were really upset at me.
>> Taylor: Well, that feels fair. Sometimes it's deserved. But not for, not for Shannon's daughter Taylor. Maybe for you.
>> Farz: There's one time where even, even the team where I, I made a call in their favor, even that team's parents were upset. I made. I was like, that must have been a bad. I was like, probably.
Taylor: That was a fun episode. Mostly it was, you know, soccer
I should probably start paying attention. What's happening?
>> Taylor: Oh my God. Did you see the, the video of the. Though in the, in the wnba, that one woman pointing at the other woman. They're pointing at each other. It's so good. And the ref is like a foot shorter than both of them and they're just like pointing over his head at each other. I love it.
>> Farz: Oh, man. Anywho, that was fun, Taylor. That was a fun episode.
>> Taylor: More sports. Okay, I'm going to log off. Log off this computer and not buy anything. I am not buying any New York height stuff, even though I want to. I'm not buying a Holland jersey because I need to calm down. It's probably going to be over today. I'm looking at the odds. The odds are not good. No, you see, let me. The odds are good that I continue to see Holland content because I'm now one of the 60 million people following him on Instagram.
>> Farz: I am. I am also one of the 60 million. Well, Taylor, do we have any listener mail?
>> Taylor: No. Mostly it was, you know, me and Shannon talking about soccer on our doom to fail Instagram and. Yeah.
>> Farz: Nice. Nice. Alrighty. Well, guys, if y' all have any ideas, suggestions, anything for us, please write to us@dubnithfallpodgmail.com or find us on all the socials at Demethell Pod. And I think that's it.
>> Taylor: That is it. If you are attending any of the women's baseball games, let us know.
>> Farz: Definitely let us know.
>> Taylor: I don't know. I don't think that. I wonder how those two, those small venn diagram of people who listen to our show and go to go to a game. Is there anyone? I don't know, maybe Springfield, Illinois, home of Abe Lincoln. So anyway, sweet.
>> Farz: We'll go ahead and cut off there.
>> Taylor: Okay, bye.
>> Farz: Thanks, Taylor.