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Ep 3 - Part 2: Trouble in Celebration - The Todt Family Murders

Episode Summary

Join us for this classic re-release - the murder of the Todt family in Celebration, Florida. Listen, We think Disney adults are weird, and we don't feel bad about that. You're especially weird if you want to live in Celebration. Anthony Todt (also BTW Todt means 'dead' in German, which they weren't allowed to mention at the trial) murdered his family in a house he had stopped paying rent on - and he stayed for days with their dead bodies. That's most of the story, but hear the details in part 2 of Episode 3! (As I'm typing this, I literally saw a person on Instagram who gets re-married to her husband every other year at Disney, and like, people are starving, could you imagine?) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod   Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod  Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com

Episode Notes

Join us for this classic re-release - the murder of the Todt family in Celebration, Florida. Listen, We think Disney adults are weird, and we don't feel bad about that. You're especially weird if you want to live in Celebration. Anthony Todt (also BTW Todt means 'dead' in German, which they weren't allowed to mention at the trial) murdered his family in a house he had stopped paying rent on - and he stayed for days with their dead bodies. That's most of the story, but hear the details in part 2 of Episode 3!  

(As I'm typing this, I literally saw a person on Instagram who gets re-married to her husband every other year at Disney, and like, people are starving, could you imagine?)

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Episode Transcription

Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor

 

hi everyone Taylor from Doom to fail here today we are re-releasing episode three part two on the infamous tote

family murders so these murders it's a family Annihilator that's one person who

spoilers kills our entire family um this time it happens in the happiest place on Earth which is

Disney World which I disagree with but you know more on that in the episode next to Disney World if you didn't know

there's a town called Celebration Florida that's like made by Disney to be

a perfect little town the tote family came from Connecticut to escape some

criminal charges honestly and then they rented a house in celebration and the

poor woman they rented it to had no idea what was about to happen so yeah let us

know what you think here is episode three part two the toad family in a matter of the people of the State of California versus

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still digest in your story a little bit but I'll go ahead and dive in um so like I mentioned I am discussing

the tote family coach is spelled t-o-d-t

just in case you ever want to look it up yourself do you know what that means in German no uh dead

are you serious mm-hmm totes why do you know that because I

took like eight years of German it was funny I took Russian and I don't

know any of it now in Duolingo but I also took it in college and so you know

yeah I took it in college too and I was like I'm in Texas I probably should learn Spanish but I know I learned Russian

um so let's get into let's get into the toad family so obviously Taylor you know I love True

Crime I like to think that I'm aware of the more Sensational stories that are out there this one wasn't even on my radar

yeah I've never heard it and I'm really surprised because I feel like I've heard everything so that's cool so I'm gonna

plug a few other shows here I stumbled on this story mostly because YouTube's

algorithm just totally has me dialed in and they recommended a channel for me called the behavior panel

this is a channel that is um comprised of four body language experts who review

police interviews or testimony on the witness stand they'll pause these

conversations they'll pause these videos and they'll assess what they're reading into that person's body language okay

that's the entire premise of this this YouTube channel um YouTube recommended a episode of this

to me called history's worst liar question mark Anthony toads

with a picture of Tony I'm gonna call him Tony from here now that's how people refer to him Tony

um and it was a picture of Tony and he just looked like a haunted doofus like you just look like such

an idiot on on this screenshot that I was like ah this could be interesting he's so hapless looking let's see what

this guy's all about I went down a rabbit hole I actually think I probably scared

people how deep into this I went I would tell everyone I met about this case for

a period of maybe two months like I am positive there are women in Austin

that I went on dates with have me on their list of worst dates ever they're probably telling their current

boyfriends of this date where I'm talking about this horrible haunted crime that is just

like in my brain forever now um I can't wait I will look around on

the internet to see if there's anyone who's like watch out for the guy who talks about this scary thing yeah

um sorry to sorry to y'all if y'all are listening um go back to this so this story is so

Macabre and sinister the one thing I would tell people listening is don't try to go inside this

guy's head you know so much of what I love about true crime is trying to figure out like

how can someone be this way how could they do this how you know like what are the the thought patterns that would lead

someone to the outcomes that we see in true Prime don't deal with this guy it'll take you places that you don't

want to go just trust me like I did I went really deep with this I just don't want to do it again

um but yeah if you really want to go in the Weeds on this there is a 14-part series

called looking for the tote family it's produced by this publication called the day

um I highly recommend it it was incredible I actually listened to it twice backpack I actually didn't go back and listen to it when we started

researching this because I it was already ingrained in my brain like I said before um but um are you are you okay

yeah yeah no I'm totally fine again like in this when we started when I started

researching this again I didn't go as deep as I did before because I didn't want to um but I highly recommend the day it's

publication they actually interviewed this guy they interviewed his sister they like they did an incredible job of

a completely comprehensive take on what happened here okay so let's get into the

um the subjects of this topic so there's Tony tote he's 47. he's a patriarch of

the family he is married to Megan who's 42. was 42 they had three children Alec

who's 13 Tyler who's 11 Zoe who's four and they also had a dog named Breezy

I'm using past tense for a reason what year we're in

we everything transpires in 2019 or 2020. oh Jesus okay yeah fairly recent

it's like yesterday yeah yeah exactly um there isn't a ton of detail out there

about Megan and Tony's past um all we know is there were high school sweethearts they grew up together by all

accounts it was kind of an idyllic um marriage it looked like a successful happy marriage from the outside in

um and that's unfortunately where the the extent of our knowledge of their background is there is a detail about

Tony's background I'm going to go into a little bit later I just don't actually know where to couch then this outline so we're going to discuss it later on one

thing to note is make it have Lyme disease I don't

know I don't know much about Lyme disease other than from the stories I've

heard it can be an incredibly debilitating disease do you know anything about this

it was from tick yes you

feel like I um well I remember do you remember the real world Seattle

and definitely not okay that is not something that's going on the hard drive forever

there's a real Seattle oh my gosh it was so dramatic it was like 1993 maybe and

um I remember one of the women had Lyme disease and it was really debilitating for her and I know people who like I think I know people who have it and it's

definitely something that is really difficult to recover from yeah yeah don't go in the woods and

get eaten by tick well I don't know if it has psychological impacts

um but I put it in this because there's a part of the story that comes up a little bit later that might make it

relevant that she had Lyme disease we'll get to that for for Tony's part

um Tony was a physical therapist in Colchester Connecticut he was apparently

pretty successful and good you know enough at least he started his own Clinic that was called Family Physical Therapy from what I read of his patients

they were incredibly pleased with him and again if you listen to the day podcast there's so many glowing interviews of his patients that are in

that it's fantastic um like after after yeah yeah like yeah maybe I don't

even know what happens but I'm saying like after they're like they went back and interviewed some of the patients they're like this guy like one lady was

like crying saying that her kid was in constant pain and Tony's therapy like

just saved them both yeah like he was apparently really good at this

um but we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna have appetizers okay an appetizer of a crime so we're gonna start with the

starter crime just to get the ball rolling here okay I immediately you said that I said um mozzarella sticks in my head so

I thought I'd jalapeno poppers nice oh we should get one of those things that has a little bit of everything I think I

know we're doing after this um so as a starter crime to kind of wet our

appetite Tony was apparently engaged in um Medicaid fraud from about 2015 to 2019.

so Tony this is gonna be a theme here tell me Tony would over extend himself

constantly um and he did it with his Clinic as well he had the best of the best equipment in one instance he ended up billing a

patient's insurance company and Medicaid for 172 sessions that he didn't perform so that's basically like that's that's

how this fraud works is you say I did a service you've issued an invoice you get paid for it you didn't actually do

anything so um in addition to that he had multiple commercial loans that he had taken out

it kind of sounds like he was running a Ponzi scheme on himself where he'd take

a loan out to pay expenses in other loans then take another loan to pay that loan he's basically he was just Bernie

madoffing himself at this point like he made no sense like I don't even understand how desperate one could be where you don't see the

writing on the wall if you continue doing this but he did it that we see a lot is like not knowing

what to do with all your debt like the turbans and all that credit card debt and even like

the people of Jamestown had so much debt back to the back to England they'd start doing kind of like weird [ __ ] to figure

out how to get so they needed we don't know how much that Lucy was in so we can't substantiate that uh Lucy

McGillicuddy yes of course um uh so it's worth noting that Megan was

not involved in the operations of the business at all she sometimes worked as a physical therapist for the most part she was just homeschooling the kids uh

it's fair to assume she had no idea what was going on financially and as far as she was concerned she was with this

great provider and Tony who was basically taking care of everything in again as far as we can tell

um everybody liked and respected him so why would she dive into it but I actually flagged this

as red flag number one for me which is be okay with inquiring into your spouse about what's going on with them

professionally I feel like maybe like this family was incredibly incredibly traditional where the wife stays at home with the kids and

homeschools the husband goes out and earns of bread and does all that which is fine but you should also have

the kind of relationship where it's okay to bring the negative and the stressors of your professional life into your

personal life and so I don't it doesn't sound like that was the case here it sounds like there was a clear Silo

between Tony's professional life and his personal life um which I can't even imagine how much

tension that puts on a person I mean we'll see how it turns out but yeah um

so keep in mind that as we're going to go through and talk about all this that

he'd already been found out by the authorities that he'd been committing this fraud so the new sister on a time so Tony's the only person who knows

what's going on here nobody else knows going on his employees don't know what's going on the patients don't know Megan obviously doesn't know what's going on

either um okay I'm gonna go into a bit of a rant Taylor okay so in the interest of

over extending the family also rented a house in Celebration Florida so they had

a house in Colchester they also got a house of Celebration Taylor your reaction I wrote this in the

outline I was like what does Taylor know about this city and you just react in the exact way that I was hoping you would react so tell me what you know

about the city I've been there holy [ __ ] okay so I am of the opinion

that like and I hate to yuck people's yums and I know I did that in the last episode with the sex party at the

turpin's house but also I stand by if you're at a sex party in children are being abused you should call the police also like people like different sex

parties that's fine so I apologize for objecting that yum I do feel like it's really hard for me to not yuck the yam

of Disney adults because you're a freaking adult like I know adults that Go Disney Disney World by themselves you

know I'm like what is wrong with you so I mean I know people love it but like I just don't understand like I don't even

want to go with my kids but celebration is a city in

Orlando that's like a Disney town where like they made

everything look perfect you know like I went there because my in-laws just working just live in Orlando and we went

there on Christmas to a restaurant and walked outside and it was like fake snowing so it's like building this

idea that you live in this like idyllic perfect Disney town with a bunch of other [ __ ] Psychopaths because everybody wants to live in a Disney town

and it's weird as [ __ ] Taylor guess what the average age

of a person living in celebration is 45 37. uh how [ __ ] stunted

sorry I'm not talking [ __ ] if you're in celebration I know God love you but how

[ __ ] stunted are you if that is the epitome of a life to you at 37 years old

I mean I don't know I I mean obviously I just talked about Disney movie and how like

kokom was a big deal for a lot of people so like sure but it's just like

it's too much if we're buying a house in Celebration that was the overlap by the way yeah

the Pocahontas movie the Disney movie and then celebration that's the overlap here there's another one too but Jason

Momoa would not live there foreign nobody you'd want to socialize with would live there

again if you live there God bless you um yeah overall one of the grossest Concepts I've ever come across

um it is I wrote down that is the Ben Shapiro of cities just

it's a case study in consumerism commercialization of Life the

sterilization of The Human Condition it's all disgusting like take

character and just remove it and that's what you get with celebration oh my God

I'm like so many people are gonna stop being my friend because they thought it was like super nice and then they're gonna listen to this and be like Taylor's not very nice

well Taylor's honest in this situation so yeah to your point so um celebration

like you said celebration was founded by the Walt Disney Corporation um and

like like we're kind of talking about here like I like you said with you like I [ __ ] hate well like I hate

Disneyland and Disney World the movies are great the movies are fantastic I'm into the movies but um but there's

there's something about this town and about like the Disney culture it just

it just like it reminds me of like an Irish Catholic Family where like the dad's a a constant drunk in the kid's

gay and the mom cries all the time they all pretend like everything's fine and normal and nobody talks about their issues as well like that's what Disney

sounds like to me I mean I guarantee you there are no therapists in Celebration yeah

yeah you gotta you gotta figure out your mental health some other way there unfortunately but

um one thing I wrote here which like is incredible I I I dug this out did you

know this Taylor they put speakers in the trees to make bird sounds

celebration yeah can you believe that [ __ ] I've guessed

like 15 times but I feel like it's like what I thought what what do you what do

you are you like ah not like put a [ __ ] bird feeder

outside and get some birds peanut butter on a pine cone like you do when you're in a kid you know it's not perfect enough you need to have the exact right

pitch you have the exact right Cadence I'm like so I know I told you that I was there there was fake snow after when I

went out of the restaurant that was delicious I had paella it was really good but I feel like I'm surprised it's not in a

dome yeah yeah I'm surprised it's not like a biosphere where it's just like 100 sunny all the time and like blah

blah it's 10 square miles can you believe that God so anyways

um yeah like there's there's a part of the story which is obviously going to get an incredibly dark and terrible but

it's also kind of hilarious because I just want to imagine the typical resident of Celebration and then

pretending they're living in this Disney Universe and then Tony comes along and does what he does there and it just

completely just like I don't know it's not funny but it's also like this is the

real world like I know you want to live in a Disneyland but there is also a real world here um first I'm so sorry can I see one more

question yes so we are together in your new house in Austin and I told you as soon as I got

here that I already zillowed it um because I always was a little house if you give me your address and then I

sent your address to my sister so I could tell her where I was and she also zilated immediately because that's what you do you silhouette and

um did you Zillow their house in celebration how much did it cost do you know I so this is when I went on that

deep dive a few months ago um because the house came up for sale

uh I think maybe six months ago give or take and it didn't sell obviously the

reason the reason they came up for me because I'm on every social media group that has to do with like serial killers

and it popped up somebody's saying does anybody know whose house this is and I looked it up and it was listed somewhere

in the four to five hundred range whereas every other house in that area is in the 800 900 range it's a large

house it's a little a little maybe maybe a murder house the um

the the one of the worst Parts about this is that the poor woman who owned

the house at least this house the toad family she lives there now full time but she can't get rid of it oh she didn't oh

no yeah they didn't release it from her at least it um

yeah yeah so so long story short so the family is living in celebration uh

starting in May of 2019 that's when they signed their lease so may of 2019 they moved the family down to Florida Tony

stays in Colchester Connecticut to CBS patients and the work then he goes back and forth on the weekends

um I'm gonna start throwing out some dates here uh but like I said just know that everything we are talking about is

between November 2019 and January 2020. it is that tight of a time frame okay so

on November 21st agents raid Tony's office they take all those files computers all that other stuff that

further bolster their case against him for insurance and Medicaid fraud uh this is blows my mind this

investigation was apparently super chill because he was kind of just like going about living his life and doing doing whatever he wanted

um he still go back and forth to Florida and Connecticut the agents would ask when he could meet he let them know they

didn't seem to have an especially adversarial relationship at this point to that end he told investigators to be

back in Connecticut on December 4th to be with his attorney and then continue with this investigation it was almost

like they were putting things on hold to work around his schedule which was incredible um so I'm just here saying okay cool we

got a few weeks to chill then obviously this upstanding man is going to come meet with us and you know like I hate

going super into like the privilege thing but this one just smacked me so hard a privilege the fact that this guy

built the government out of tens or potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars the government is like well have a great holiday we'll see you you know

when whenever when are you free sir yeah so weird um so the next day is the last day

anybody sees Tony that's November 22nd so that's Thanksgiving and he is with

his sister no clue if the rest of the family is there if they're still in Florida um all we know is that Tony was for sure

there um the sister here's from the family periodically and

it was like it was normal interactions with them until around December 23rd 24th that's when the all communication

stopped in a way that for her sounded unusual to the kind of relationship she had with them

on the 29th she gets vibes she calls the cops to do a welfare check the family also owned another condo

about an hour away from this rental house in celebration again super overextended she asked the police to go

check there and to check the house of celebration for the welfare check Tony in one of his earlier

Communications tour had told her that the entire family was super sick that's why nobody was talking to her basically

um so police went to check and again they're super chill they knocked on the door they didn't see anything suspect

they're like nah it's all good we can't really do anything else for a year that's that was the way they ended up on the 29th of December so that's like a

week after Thanksgiving she's like we're not I haven't heard from him no she stopped hearing from him December

23rd 24th okay it was a month after Thanksgiving oh December okay yeah

so on January 6 people started hearing from them again Tony made some vague claim to a family member that his phone

had been stolen or lost at a Starbucks and then he'd been he had just been returned a neighbor to the a condo

neighbor of theirs texted Megan letting her know that an eviction notice has been put on the condo Megan replied okay

thanks by this point there was eviction notice on everything the celebration house that eviction notice and the condo an hour

away from the house had an eviction notice on it um given what was going on obviously Tony just didn't he was in a different

mental state he was not paying bills at this point on January 9th the FBI is trying to get frantic weather

investigation this is the point in which they're like this guy's not talking to anyone he's not coming back we should

probably start doing something they call the police the local police in Florida and the same day Chrissy also calls the

local police and this is what Chrissy says this is a quote my sister-in-law had

made a comment that basically quote the world is ending on December 28th

and nobody has talked to them nobody has physically talked to my sister-in-law

since the 26th of December and my brother stopped texting us as of Monday January 6th she's been in this college

January 9th so I'll tell you this statement really threw a monkey wrench for me in this

situation because I don't tell my family anything I keep all the inner workings of my mind a complete secret because I

just don't welcome any questions about my life so for me to say the world is ending on whatever date seems really

[ __ ] bizarre you know like maybe you have a different relationship maybe you're more vocal

about the things that you would Express to your family what do you think of that well okay I am definitely more vocal and

express my feelings to my family but that's a weird ass thing to say who says that that's so weird it's so

weird I want to say that to anyone like what what are you what are you supposed to do with that as a receiver of that

information be like cool I'm gonna spend all my money now or I don't know or like great have you talked to Jesus like what

what does that even mean so we you know a meteor yeah we know

that Megan said this to Chrissy to Tony's sister because it was on a phone call it wasn't a text it was a phone

call and so very peculiar very very odd

situation and again I'm not sure what to make of it but it does set up some plausible deniability for Tony later on

so that's a good thing for him I guess um a day later uh this is January 10th

the police go to both the condo and the house and they find nothing on the 11th they go back and again find nothing and

then on the 12th the poor owner of this house they're leasing calls it also asks

for welfare check this woman sounds like a sweet landlord actually like

here's here's what she said this is a direct quote I own a property that I rent out and I have concerns for the

family on social media I've just sort of seen that people have not seen or heard from this family in a long long time and

I'm trying to sort of notice to evict them because they've not been paying rent I'm concerned for the family and

I'm concerned for my property I just thought it was me they weren't communicating with because they owed me money but in general they've not in

contact with anybody so she's freaking out like what's gonna happen to this like amazing house she has and shitty

[ __ ] [ __ ] Celebration Florida you know like it's gonna are they destroying it or what

that's good that's some good soothing of her yeah yeah um at this point federal agents are

basically like [ __ ] this guy we gotta go get him they call the local police for backup and by this point they had seen

Tony entering the um rental house and not leave so on the 13th they go to the house this

time the door's unlocked and they just let themselves in this is all for Medicaid fraud right not

even like the fact that his family is missing them this is not about the money yeah the next thing like I don't know

how the FBI Works obviously but I imagine you don't put the financial crime people on murder investigations

yeah look at my mind I'm picturing like these guys going in with calculators and

pocket protectors to put this guy for like an incredibly white collared crime which like just bring down your mind as

well of like who the personality types are that are walking into this house and it's also that they're like they're they

didn't have like a tremendous sense of urgency you know that they were like okay we'll give you the holidays and

then now they're like all right it's super annoying you haven't called us but they're not like this is Left for Dead situation there's like we need to

finally do our jobs so come to yeah their investigation of the in the

fraud is less than two months old I mean these things drag on for years like it's not like a crazy urgent situation yeah

um but here Taylor this is where the nightmare fuel really begins okay do me

a favor Google Tony tote again it's t-o-d-t

and do a refs after it so I want you to see the most recent picture of him upon his arrest

don't say anything yeah

you saw it I did so apparently pretty shortly before the

events of what's gonna happen Tony was in decent shape

so if if you're listening and you're not looking at this picture I'm gonna go ahead and describe it and Taylor you can

describe them as well the day he is arrested he basically looks like Danny DeVito's Penguin from Batman Returns

like he is a again not fat shaming anyone he does not look normal fat he

looks like a blob of a human being is is how I describe it and it becomes relevant that

he looks like a blob of a human being shortly when I get into the murders so Taylor what do you think of his appearance

well he definitely doesn't look good I mean I'm not not even like his weight but he just looks like

he looks like a broken sad human like he definitely looks like he's given

up I feel like that's like what I get from like his face like his face is

like expressionless you know you know and I mean it's like doing him any favorites

he's wearing this like white jumpsuit but like he just he looks like

well he looks real [ __ ] guilty that's what he looks like he's real [ __ ] bad he looks like somebody who has probably

like been resuscitated after 17 heart attacks like he is not in a good way no

and he's on a good way the day the police get there apparently he I'll get into what he took but um police open the

door to this house so the FBI and the police open the door of this house they go inside and Tony

comes hobbling down the stairs like again he's not in a good way like he's not like just bouncing down the stairs like what's going on guys no like he's

just like half aware of what's going on you know I just keep your picturing all

the lights off in this house for some reason and then this guy coming down the stairs just looking out of sorts with

the body type that he had it had to be surreal they already knew something was up because they later stated that the

second they opened the door the smell of decomposition hit them and they only got it only got worse the deeper they went

into the house so they knew there was something going on here this part again don't go into this guy's

head is [ __ ] terrifying he told the police that his kids were probably at a

friend's house for a sleepover and that his wife was upstairs sleeping Taylor he

yelled up to his wife no like police are here come on down

again it just it gets worse it gets so much worse so I feel like yeah I feel like

he's when you say the lights where I was like the lights were like always off yeah I feel like he hasn't like he looks

like someone hasn't been in the light artificial or not in a very long time yeah yeah whatever whatever I didn't put

this into the sound line but when I originally was looking up this case apparently what he was doing when the police had showed up was that he had

been sitting on the front patio of the celebration house just like blankly

staring into the distance and then they say that when he got up to go in the house his body movements were abnormal

like he was not moving his body in a way that made sense to probably just stand up and walk inside the house like again

there's a lot going on in this guy's head in his body he kind of looks like um

Vincent D'Onofrio when he's full of aliens and yeah yeah that's what he looks like it's so good yeah you know

that yeah that's right too and like I can also picture his [ __ ] neighbor across the street mowing his lawn being

like dude I live in Celebration what a what a weird fit community

meeting that must have been after this happened yeah so police go upstairs and they find what

you would expect given the nature of stories that I tell they find incredibly badly decomposed bodies yeah except

Zoe the four-year-old little girl you can't find her no at first

Megan was in bed with the covers pulled over her this is so bad

they eventually after some investigation realized that the puddle

that was at Megan's feet was Zoe no

for whatever reason she decomposed the quickest or whatever like

they used to know this girl was there like it was just like an amorphous blob and the foot of her mom's

bed um no how old is she four oh my God

that's like big it's not like a tiny baby yeah what um how long were they dead

oh we're gonna get to that oh yeah we're gonna get that going back to how Tony looks now and like his

abnormal fat distribution and weight what he did to Zoe

is so [ __ ] haunting to me like again this is the stuff that like you just don't want to go super deep into it he

killed her by laying on her no

do you [ __ ] believe that no no oh my God

you can give your kids away something I just want to say that again you can just leave them mad like the store

no they take him to the fire station please um so

poor baby as far as the rest of the family he at the very least stabbed the

two boys and Megan but it autopsy also revealed a toxic

level of Benadryl in their system no which like I didn't I actually didn't know you could OD on Benadryl like I say

I guess you can OD on anything of course you can yeah totally well there you go um well hopefully there was asleep

oh that's terrible except for at the very least for Zoe and no we know that that wasn't the case because one of the

boys um Tony later stated that he was really really nervous about because when he started stabbing him he was like that's

the older boy he might actually be able to overpower me and run out of the house or Escape or something he actually like

so they were conscious enough to where he thought that was a legitimate risk

ugh yeah we know all this because he actually confessed the police three times three separate instances he

confessed the police ultimately they deem this inadmissible but whatever we're not a legal procedure show so he

confessed to laying on his little girl until she stopped breathing that's what happened as far as I'm concerned he also

killed the dog Breezy not sure why that was necessary but I guess you know he was on a roll

um police think the murders happened around Christmas Taylor

do you remember when I said they were found January something

January 13th so think about that

picture this guy basically the penguin rambling around the house for three

weeks oh my god with four corpses plus his dead dog eating Popeye's Chicken and just sitting

there like and people are like knocking on the door right yeah people are asking where they've

done like at this point three or four welfare checks on him as well oh my God this is another another point from our

last episode I feel like you should look in your neighbor's windows guys please don't do that I'm just gonna

say like maybe you need to sometimes like just like take a peek and if things look like weird then call the police a

little curious yeah be like a smidge curious like if things seem weird just like I don't know puppet maybe like

bring some cookies so you can later be like oh bring your cookies you know but like not make it weird but

like I feel like we should we should look in your neighbor's windows okay like this is the part of this story

that I think I like dwelled on the most was you're in this house with your dead family rotting above you for weeks no

it was so crazy to me it's the point where one of the kids is a puddle of puddle of sinew like it's absolutely

unbelievable oh my God it's awful um so Tony's side of the story uh

changes after he confessed um it seemed at first you know he did the confessing then later on he said that his wife did

it Ben later said that it was some partisan plan he and his wife had to Stave off the apocalypse it's worth noting that

nothing I read mentioned religion or spirituality at all with these folks all we have is what Tony says now and what

Megan told Christy about the world ending on December 28th which is interesting given when

investigators think they died wait did they kill them on December 28th they they don't know because the bodies

were so decomposed they just assumed it was in this window of time around Christmas time oh my God yeah

so according to Tony Megan had baked a pie that had a shitload of Benadryl in it and apparently fed it to the kids

then they took a bunch of Benadryl then she took a bunch of Benadryl herself and then also he says she stabbed herself in

the abdomen given her previous statement yeah I thought that too but given the previous statement about how the world is going

to end there's part of this story that I'm like could this have been a thing

I I don't it's there's more evidence around Tony having

done all this than there is about Megan all we have about Megan is that she was in constant pain because of Lyme disease

and she did make this statement that is verified that the world is going to end on 28 that's all we really know

so like I don't know this reminds me of like it would be a lot if he was like

secretly convincing her that the world is going to end and she needed to kill her children I feel like other people would know that she was having that

experience and nobody said anything nobody yeah they were like Megan's normal like to

the point where the the red flag of all this to Chrissy Tony's sister was I

talked to these people all the time like we have right great relationship and now I just don't hear from them at all

so I don't know I I'm leaving it's not enough for me to say Megan did

this um but it's just another weird component of this yeah

um no I don't think yeah you when you think about like the ax dropping of the fraud investigation

with the evictions and also the fact that at this point it goes probably without saying but he'd actually

exhausted every Financial resource he had at that time he had nothing left but there was nothing left like it was over

like it was all done um and then yeah ultimately what ended up happening was his trial lasted for

only six days he was hit with four life sentences plus one year for killing the

dog Breezy he obviously appealed and obviously that's not going anywhere um

there is a there's a random fact here that I didn't actually put in to the storyline because

I don't know where to place it so in the 1980s Tony's parents

were married they lived together like they wanted a divorce couple or anything the dad's name is Robert and apparently

Robert hired what kind of sounds like probably like a slightly mentally disabled person paid

him 800 to kill his wife oh no Tony's mom yeah

so the guy shot her in the face in the kitchen of their home

directly in front of a four-year-old Tony well I don't think that's random I

think that [ __ ] up for life but like oh by the way she lived I don't

know how she lived and apparently apparently she like really loved Robert because she was like on his side for the

trial which is incredible he ended up ultimately going to jail for five years and Tony and him

essentially had no relationship after that until now until this happened with

Tony and now him and Robert are now back pen paling each other and having the conversations because they're wife

killers you're you fell so close to the tree I'm

just so jealous that you succeeded in killing your wife I don't it's not it's not irrelevant like I

think that's really a big [ __ ] deal but is it relevant in the sense that now like there's a common stripe running

through this family of yeah that is absolutely unbelievable [ __ ] trauma

for a child like can you you that ruins your life

clearly I think we can direct thread that would happen and they get red yarn and

direct thread that to him killing his family because if you see that I mean

Tony um draws that comparison himself as well of

this did something to me I don't know what but it's it's just like I I have such a hard time excusing me like

finding reasons to excuse Behavior like this like it's no I mean don't kill your family that's number one that's not an

excuse but I feel like it definitely contributed and like I also feel like he never went to a therapist

yeah yeah and he never talked about his problems he never told his wife what he

was I'm totally editorializing this and and making an assumption I would assume that

if he didn't think that he was in a position where he had to commit all this fraud to sustain the lifestyle that he and the kids that Megan have become

accustomed to he probably wouldn't have done this I think that this was a man at the incomplete end of his rope he'd give

it up online I mean that's the part of it like again the picture that you see of him that is a man who gave up on all

of life all of it well I mean this is exactly what a family Annihilator does like when you see a family Annihilator I

think John list and it's exactly what he did because he was like there's too much debt I don't know what to do I

have to kill my family I'm In Too Deep you know like I can't take this family out of

this nice house I have to kill them yeah yeah it's it feels like that is a

Common Thread that runs through all of this but um yeah that is uh for the reason the

reason I picked my tie is because if you don't know this you can only drink in one place in

Disneyland and it's club 33. and Club 33 has this like old-timey vibe to it and

you have to be like invited or something to go there again this is so [ __ ] stupid like it's like another reason not to go I'm just gonna add that to my um

you have to be sober while all these kids are screaming and running around it

sounds sitting in Lines Just in lines and it's also paid thousands of dollars to do

this I feel like we did this last week although the turbines going there but like also it's been really rainy in

California and I saw pictures of people doing at Disneyland in the rain oh it's like

Taylor if we ever are able to get like advertisers in Disney or Disney Cruise

Line decides to advertise advertise on us for enough to take this episode Down 100 going if they're paying for it I did

go one time because I have friends who worked there and they paid for it like it was free yeah that's I mean that's

worth that and only that but but this Club 33 all they have are old-timey drinks they don't do anything modern and

so it's like sazeracs and Mai Tai's and stuff like that I love it there yeah side is very yeah it's very you Taylor

it's very I love a speakeasy rapper retro yeah like I want to open a closet

door and be in a bar yes 100 yes put it behind a bookcase oh my God I would die

that's so fun oh yeah so that's that's why the we're doing my ties today but that's my story

um it is really troubling but it's sad it's so sad that people like it's

I mean I feel terrible for the kids and for the wife and I think all of that like her doing it stuff is

um [ __ ] I think he just wants to like you know maybe get one less life sentence or whatever but like that's

absolute [ __ ] there's no way that she did that I mean I feel like he was Maybe

I'm sure as she was seeing [ __ ] at the fan that things were not great in the relationship you know

yeah and she's like oh hey hun the FBI is at the door for you beginning of something bad

I don't even think she it didn't even go that far I think that was like the barrier that he created with them living

in celebration while he's doing all this in Connecticut oh right yeah

maybe that's why they moved to celebrate maybe that's why they even in Florida was because he was like I have to create a physical barrier between

what a cluster well that's terrible thanks for sharing uh next week I will be sharing an

incredibly happy story we really no

um because next thing that I speak mine is a love story and I'm just so sorry that it's not gonna be funny but I just can't and I have already cried about it

so um to love story that didn't work out so I just can't talk about it but also don't

stop recording because I feel like we don't have any banter at the end of our show we need to add Mandarin I will keep recording

um we need like a sign off and something funny to say when we leave so I feel like I don't know like look in your

neighbor's windows and do you want to do it no I need we need

maybe to think about it more but I just don't want to like abruptly end it

um that's I don't want to sit here in silence but we're going to work on an ending we're this is episode three

but we're not just gonna cut it off anymore we're gonna add more banter we're going to be funnier these are my

promises to the to the worlds I I feel like my stories aren't funny though well

you just want to pick comedy as like our number one thing especially we should adjust that

uh that's a good point but yeah no I'm looking forward to next week to learn

more about this love story and I'm gonna bring you another horrible horrible story that will hopefully curl your toes

um and make you envision horrible things happening to people that probably don't deserve it great yeah yeah more red

flags more red flags more relationships that were doomed to fail it's all coming up oh wait wait I have

one more thing to say while we're still recording so first one of my best friends Nicole she was like she texted

me and she was like I have to tell you something and I was like okay she was like so when I looked at your stuff from

Doom to fail and I saw a DTF um I thought about something else I didn't think Doom to fail when I saw that acronym and I was like

I know Nicole that's the joke she was like okay good just making sure it was so I was like thanks for having

my back and she was like of course it was absolutely intentional I will also say that Taylor's the one who asked for

the DTF logo um yeah so it was all you're doing

so um well let's we'll go ahead and sign off thanks everyone for listening and

we'll be back next week see you next week [Music]

thank you all right everyone that was

episode three part two it's getting confusing to do all these parts but I

really am excited that we're able to re-release them for you in these smaller bites and gives you a chance to kind of

revisit some of our past episodes I think our first like 26 or so episodes we did the double stories so we'll have

a whole year of re-releases before we have to figure out what other bonus content you might want we did do that

one interview with Marcos Antonio Hernandez who wrote um where they burn books they also burn people so yeah if

you haven't listened to that as a bonus please do and then also let us know if you want something else as a bonus we're

gonna do one later this year where farz and I tell you a little bit about ourselves like who are we why are we

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