This week we’re going up the Canadian coastline to tell the story of The Expulsion of the Acadians. French immigrants to the Americas just wanted to live their lives, be friends with the natives, and stay with their families (that’s oversimplifying it, but you get it). Of course, religion and the government decided to ruin the party for everyone, and A LOT of people died. Join us for this week’s historical tragedy, it’s quite sad. Photos from the creative commons & AI Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com
This week we’re going up the Canadian coastline to tell the story of The Expulsion of the Acadians. French immigrants to the Americas just wanted to live their lives, be friends with the natives, and stay with their families (that’s oversimplifying it, but you get it). Of course, religion and the government decided to ruin the party for everyone, and A LOT of people died.
Join us for this week’s historical tragedy, it’s quite sad.
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on our marketing efforts um we will always take like a class so just not being honest all the time is
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the name of the class exactly Taylor what who I now let me change his
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formatting I'm even more confusing before I go first time me you go first okay so I'll share what I'm drinking the
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drink of the day it is electrolyte water along with Diet Coke I'm being healthy
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I'm in Dallas and when I'm in Dallas I tend to be a little more on the healthy side and so that is what I'm drinking at
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the time being right for my story we are drinking Molson is it Molson the Canadian beer
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molson's yeah oh yeah we're going to Canada
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is this for Nadine it is Indian also wrote back I will I think I wrote it down so she when you
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said there's not a lot of crime in Canada I was like there's no way that's true because there's like so many so much I think there's a bunch of stories
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and she agreed with me even though I saw that in my head and sent me a bunch of stories for you so I'll forward it to you
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it's it's not a design crime in Canada it said it doesn't get the kind of coverage and media play that ours gets
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which makes it incredibly hard to research and like you know it's funny you brought that up because I started researching pretty bad crimes in the U.S
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for mine and I didn't go with them but they were crimes that were committed
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against like what like a lot of folks including our favorite podcast last podcast calls the less dead which are
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like sex workers and minorities and stuff like that and there's a lot of them I mean the actual most fun is yeah
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at this point but it doesn't get much media coverage because nobody cares about these people it's like and then
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there's a buy part of that is that in Canada something nobody cares about people who are Canadian it's more like it's not as big of a media clickbait
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demographic as it is like what's going on in the U.S for example but I would love to see that list
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whenever you can share it with me I will I will be cool well I have a Canadian story that I thought of when she
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mentioned Canada and I know that a long time ago you asked me to tell you a Persian story and I'll get there but I
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just jumped in a problem with this Canadian story I don't remember asking that but I I believe you okay I was
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thinking about something in Canadian history that is terrible and it's a terrible relationship between a group of
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people and another group of people so I'm going to talk about the 1755 expulsion of the acadians have you heard
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about this no no it sounds like a cool video game though it does kind of simple if you
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need my main source is a book called a great and Noble scheme the tragic story of the apollution of the French acadians
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expulsion of the French acadians from their American Homeland and let me tell you it was dry
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I was like oh my God I don't know what I don't know why I was so dry but you could like I like barely finished it I
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finished it this morning but let's start so you've been to Canada yes I've never been to Canada have you
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been to Maine that is on yeah actually I've been I've been to Bangor
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oh okay cool for Stephen King of you three mango we had we had relatives that lived in Bangor and at that time I was a
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kid when I visited so I didn't know who Stephen King was and later on I learned I was like oh my God I should have tried to find this guy's house
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I unfollowed literally everyone on Twitter for my personal account and deleted all my tweets except for the
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ones where I say that Coco Chanel was a Nazi and the only people I'm following are us my husband and Stephen King
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makes sense I want that to like be my brand so I've never been up there but I'm talking
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we're in the area that's like Maine and above Maine is like Nova Scotia New
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Brunswick the east coast of Canada is where we are right now uh in 1604 the
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French came to that part of Canada 14 years before the Mayflower so they were there a lot earlier than the British war
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up in that northern part of the continent and they were
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farmers and they were fur Traders I feel like my point of reference for a French fur Trader are the terrible French guys
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in the Revenant yes yeah that's exactly what I think all the time I use I use
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Revenant as a measure of cold so if I'm cold I'll be like I'm Revenant cold right now like I am caught up in a horse
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and like soup inside of a cold so anyway per trade Acadia is that area up there
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so like there's a lot of like French words and like in the book they say like a lot which I'm not even sure what that
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means I think it's like part of Canada and like I don't know where the Navy came from but the acadians live in this area that's like Acadia which is what
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we're talking about above Maine I'm not even looking at a map I'm just guessing but but you know what I mean no yeah my hands I mean the Titan something
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just happened that left Newfoundland and Newfoundland is like right above the east coast in in is it is it Zone
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country is that what Labradors are from oh my God I don't know wow no sorry I just
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took it that's part of it it's definitely part of Canada but I don't know why Labradors would be from there and I always forget how close to Canada
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the Titanic is although the name might suggest Labrador
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Retrievers came from Labrador Canada the well-known dog breed originated from nearby Newfoundland in the 1500s
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how do you know that I totally derailed this for a purpose this went awesome at trivia oh my God I am also awesome at
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trivia so let's do that next time we're together yes your pop culture trivia I'm
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useless fact trivia okay oh my God I can't wait that's awesome so anyway that's where we are the Acadian
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population um I'll tell you who they were but they lived up there they had very tight-knit communities they were French so they
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were very influenced by French culture and also they were very Catholic so that's going to be important later that
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they were catholic they were specifically from the vien and Aquitaine regions of France and that's where they
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came from when they moved they came over to to North America I'm gonna add in some dates and places initially they
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came to portray Port Royal like Port Royal you know I'm gonna go back and forth in 1604 which is you know up there
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in Nova Scotia in general where they live as Acadia right away of course there were like really they were trying
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to convert the native people to get to Catholicism of course they were so people do so that
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was happened immediately they did try to convert the locals the local tribe was the mikwa tribe and they actually got
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along relatively well so there were religious and language barriers the mikwa language is like very verb based
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so like you could say one word that means like a paragraph you know and it was hard to like translate the two
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together and what they did when they first got there which is super fun is they would just teach other swear words and like everyone would just laugh but
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then people were like you have to be serious and like you know learn French and learn the my language so that they did that um of course also they brought
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along disease and STDs and all the things that you bring when you come to a new place but they did keep a lot
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of their Customs so the Canadians kept a lot of the custom of like going to church and being very Catholic
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there is a fair amount of intermarrying between the acadians and the mikwa the first one first Like official marriage a
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man named Charles LaTour buried a mick my woman in 1626 that's like later but they were like sleeping
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together before them and having babies specifically because there weren't any French women for like the first 20 years
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you know they just sent men so you have to do something so they would you know
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sleep with the mikma women it wasn't actually a big deal in their culture to have sex before marriage so they would they would do that but when they did
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want to get married if they didn't want to marry one of the one of the native women they had to stop having sex with
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her for a whole year and live with her family in their like wigwam and then
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they can get married and despite that being crazy that did happen people did get married so who would agree to that
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they loved each other powers so there are some that so they were
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generally like pretty happy like I'm sure terrible things happened they were pretty happy there they started to like
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do you know they were just intermingling with with the native people and then like doing their farming and their fur trading so French families started to
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arrive in the 1630s which is a while later it's like a whole generation later French families started to arrive the
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first European born in Acadia was a boy named Matthew Martin he was born in 1636
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at Port Royal so he was the first like actually fully French baby to be born there but there were there were mixed
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babies all over the place while this is happening there are so many wars
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happening and like other things happening too this is also when like jamestown's happening and a couple people that we've talked about before
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are going to pop up on this story kind of just like tangentially but at one point the man a man named where to go
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Samuel Argyle comes up to Acadia and starts to kind of do stuff over there he's British but he's the guy who
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kidnapped Pocahontas so kind of fun that he's involved involved in this somehow as well there's
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some Wars in 1640 there's a little Civil War for power between New Brunswick and Port Royal which are really close to
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each other that's the Canadians like the acadians like kind of fighting each other but that gets worked out but while
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this is happening there's so many wars happening between the Indians and the French and the British and the French
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and the British and the Indians and the Spanish and everything happening in the American side and there's a ton of Wars
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happening in Europe too so France doesn't always have the money or the time to support their colony up in
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Canada you know makes sense over the next hundred years or so I'll name some Wars that were going on the British
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obviously are also involved in like the slave trade and colonization and they're just like doing a bunch of [ __ ] in North America for the first time but first
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came the Puritans so we talked about them coming on over on the Mayflower or whatever and I've mentioned this before
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is that the Puritans you know they had to leave England because they're more boring and everybody hated them yeah
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which is like where we get our culture from these boring ass nerds who were not very nice so the Puritans were not
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interested in assimilating with the natives like the Canadians were so
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instead of being like how can we work together not that it was beautiful whatever how can we work together and like teach me how to farm this land they
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were like no we just want you to like be Puritan and then like that's it so that's why a lot of people starve to death you know yeah Jamestown people
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starve to death a lot of these like original colors yeah even in even in
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Acadia people starved it up people left people you know like they did it probably in Roanoke they were starving to death so they left you know that's
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the most likely outcome of what happened to those guys yep yep the Puritans you know didn't want to mix didn't want to
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be friends they weren't interested in it the acadians were they were like we'll marry anyone we just need to have more people they were like we understand that
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this is not going to work if we don't have a lot of people and we need to get people we need to have more women like there just like weren't enough people so
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that's what they started to like intermarry with a mcmom and other I think probably other tribes tribes there's a lot of fighting with the with
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the Puritans and with the British kind of immediately they want to come and like you know take their towns away take
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their crops the British like more British people come are starting all these fights all these like little Wars they kind of see them
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as backwards people the acadians because they are all they're living with the
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customs of France from like 50 years ago because they never learn the new customers the new culture
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so they're like wearing old-timey clothes and have wooden shoes and like so they just kind of like make fun of them and they like don't know really who
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these people are if that makes sense another thing about the British is that they [ __ ] hate the Catholics they like hate them I think it goes back and
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forth at this point they're Protestant they hate the Catholics as well and so they just like want to get rid of them
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and they want to like take over the whole coast and have it all be Protestant they literally are like my
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Jesus is better than you or Jesus I know it's so stupid so stupid it's like oh my God you will sleep in Jesus just like
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why why why kill people go swim in a creek and have a beer like why for real
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there was beer that they were there making beer they were trying to if the French royalism pointed they couldn't
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grow wine in that part of Canada but you know yeah there were those yeah calm
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down honestly this is a thing so also do you know what Nova Scotia means New
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Scotland yes I didn't know that I didn't know that either you just you made me you forced me to think
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which is not my natural state and my brain connected patterns so yeah the
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Scottish are coming over as well everyone's coming everyone wants a piece of this pie there's a lot of plundering
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somehow in this story also another person that we've heard from before cut and Mather is involved remember cotton
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rather yeah cool name he's a delight cotton and his dad's name is increase remember those yeah that's
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right they're such good names that's good names so cotton matters you know around as well and he's he's crazy so he's there too but let me tell you about
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some of these wars because there are a lot of Wars going on there's King Phillips war from 1675 to
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1676 so that's a year but King Philip I don't know I assumed that was the European king it's not it's it's a a
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native King a Wampanoag King named Philip and that was against some New
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England tribes and New England colonists and their Indian allies they're just like fighting there there's a war of Spanish succession which happens in 1701
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to 1715. so there's one in Europe that takes Francis France's attention away they're also like doing stuff in the
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colonies and they're sending they're trying to rule via boat you know which is impossible so
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like they'll send a letter and be like yeah definitely burn down that town and then they'll change their mind a week
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later send that letter before the time the person gets that letter it has to burn to the ground yeah yeah
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like you can't I don't know how he's about to control people that way so there are four French and Indian Wars up
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in this area during this time there's 1688 to 1697 there's King Williams War then there's Queen Anne's war in 1702 to
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1713 then there's King George's War from 1744 to 1748 then there's a French and
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Indian War which is also called the Seven Years War from 1754 to 1763. so there's just like this area is just
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crazy you know in in this time America's been discovered the United States does not exist yet
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right correct yeah and so we're about to have the Revolutionary War in you know
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10 years after this after the last French and Indian War and I keep saying the British but like they're also the
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Americans because they're turning into Americans you know I'm not I can't be like other British it's the British I'm
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like it's the British because in the way that like we were the British yeah same with the Puritans right like those are
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just British different British people yeah exactly exactly so I wrote the American Revolutionary War
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coming soon to a coast near you um and in the meantime the acadians are
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just trying to live they're trying to live in their area and like not fight with everyone but there's so much going on and the British keep saying you have
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to pledge yourself to Britain like you have to you have to leave Catholicism leave France so you're going to be a
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Protestant and you're going to live in and you're going to like whatever uh for the king and they're like no we just
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want to be French and live our lives we just want to speak French and farm and we don't want to do any of this they try to make some treaties in French but the
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British are like we don't speak French everybody's mad at each other which is a very American thing to do to be like I'm a learning your language [ __ ] you
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so of course they do that they're like okay well we'll sign this paper for you whatever like ceremonially but we'll
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never take arms against the French like we don't want to fight against the French and the British are like no we might need you to fight so a lot of back
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and forth and it's worth also noting that like vacating their life is pretty beautiful like I'm sure they're like
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gender things that are bad and I'm sure that they you know weren't nice to everyone but you know they have big
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Orchards and they have like you know the women cook the men hunt like they're living like a pretty like idyllic
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country life that's where they came from in France they came from a place that they're like rustic folk and they like
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it and they're having a good time but it is not gonna be forever their time because now it is 1755. I
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keep picturing like the opening scene and Inglorious Bastards where like that French family was just looking this
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idyllic life and all of a sudden everything goes to hell in a handbasket exactly exactly yeah shit's about to go down it
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was 1755 they lived there for like 150 years you know they have Villages they have crops they were able to like create
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like dams and stuff to move the rivers around like so it didn't flood like all the things later of course the British
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didn't know how to take care of them and they flooded everything flooded there were approximately 14 000 acadians up in
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that area just trying to live their lives and the British are like we want to kick you out because you're still
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French we don't want you here anymore you have to leave specifically a governor named Charles Lawrence he came
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in and was like I want them out so he issued an order known as the expulsion of the acadians
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or the great upheaval which is predominos for what you're going to do and he aimed to depart them from their
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Homeland saying that they were a threat to British interests so technically they're prisoners of War he like kind of
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captures them and has them all move he doesn't want them together anymore because together they can like defend
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themselves yeah so let's separate them but they send them to the American colonies they just
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disperse them kind of all over of the 14 000 people 11 000 were deported in a
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terrible way the first explosion happened on August 10 1755 in the Bay of
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Fundy where they ordered people to just kind of like be like corralled onto boats and they didn't say this but like
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they're probably slave ships because the the conditions on the boats were like you couldn't move you know you know like
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just like terrible a ton of people died on the boats they died of sicknesses they died of starvation two of the boats
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never even made it anywhere they just had like hundreds of people on the boat and no no one knows what happened wouldn't any cargo ship be a slave ship
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though yeah that's true it is not a passenger ship was used as a slave ship exactly
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it's not the it's not the Titanic with its nice stuff I don't think any
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trip was very nice yeah yeah it was all it was all hell yeah but it was particularly awful when they in November
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1755 a man named George Scott which may be sad because it reminded me of George C Scott I don't want him to think of him
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as a baddie attached 20 houses in one of the Acadian towns killing 200 of their livestock just to deprive them of
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supplies to like starve them out if they weren't in there what they would do is they would be like we're having a meeting with we need all the men in town
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ages 10 and up to come and meet with us and they're like that's weird they even need a 10 year olds to come to a meeting you know but then they would go and then
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they would lock the door and they'd be like now you're captured and and take them away and so because of this so many
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families were separated so the men would just be taken away in the middle of the night and the women wouldn't even know where they went or like what to do so a
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lot of them were just starving and died like in their homes and then a lot of
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their homes were burned down and a lot of their livestock was killed and like they just wanted them out of there so bad so they put boats and they are going
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down the coast people are just disappearing families are being pulled apart they don't give people a heads up
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and they just are there so all of a sudden there's just like 200 acadians in Boston you know yeah and they're like
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what do you have to do with them so they rely on charity they rely on like the churches but the churches don't really
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want them because they're Catholic but they're like we have to help these people so people are like sleeping outside in Boston in the snow because
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they have no money they have nowhere to go they won't people won't give them jobs and they took and they don't have
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any stuff just had to like leave into the dump them there you know one thing they would do which is terrible is they
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would take the children away to be servants in other people's houses because then the children at least had like a place to stay but they were like
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basically steal them so they're prisoners of War but they won't swear allegiance to the British king they're
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like that doesn't make any sense you just did this to us like why would we want to become like one of your subjects um some of them get sent back to England
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to England to France back to Europe they come back they go back and forth but like they're all separated from their
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families they don't know where anybody is some of them go back to Canada to the place to Acadia where they're from but
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their lands have been stolen so they have to work the lands that like used to
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be their family lands for the hundreds of years right to like have a job because they know how to do it so it's
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super sad and all they keep saying all we want is to like be left alone and be with our
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families again you know they're like you can keep our stuff you already took our stuff you know we just want our families back we want to be able to go and like
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live our own lives somewhere and eventually the British are like okay this is exhausting like we don't know
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what to do with you like no one wants you around like just because of like Prejudice and because like they're mixed some of them are mixed some of them most
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all of them are French all of them are Catholic so in 1764 so nine years after
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it started the British government passed a law to permit them to return to British territories in small groups so
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they can't all be together but they can at least try to like find their families and even their families and be in small groups
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um some of them went back to Canada today there are still acadians that live in Eastern New Brunswick Prince Edward
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Island Nova Scotia Quebec northern bean like where they came where they were in the beginning before they get there some of them went to other parts of the U.S
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and a big chunk of them ended up in Spanish Louisiana and eventually the French word Acadian
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became the word Cadian which later turned into the word Cajun that's where
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the Cajun people are from wait so is that why Louisiana has such a French influence yep interesting
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yeah right now in in our time there's less and less people in Louisiana who
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speak French but there there are people in the government like trying to get like French back in schools and things
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like that because it's part of their ancestry a lot of them come you know from the Acadian friendship people in 1847 the poet Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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wrote an epic poem called Evangeline about a woman who was taken from Acadia
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and separated from her family from her lover and eventually finds him and then they both die and it's super sad an epic
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poem is really hard for me to read because I just like literally can't but I do
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have this poem randomly because I have this book I'm holding it for you called Longfellows Illustrated poems that I
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bought at the library love the library book sale um I mean look at this it's like super old this is what these I'm going to show
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it to you but I'll put a thing in it but it's like old the writing is really small I'm like I can't read this poem but it's Illustrated but I bought it
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because in the inside of it it's inscribed well it has these cool
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1920 stickers on it and it is says to Florence duffelmeyer from Mrs Renee
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Spencer September 24th 1922. so 100 years ago this was given to a little girl named
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Florence which is super cool yeah the headwise book so the Evangeline is
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in here and it really brought the story of what happened to the acadians um two more people because apparently people
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have the patience to read epic poem we used to read
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little did you not but I am going to read you some of it yeah go for it we're here this is the opening season which is
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very popular apparently I don't even know if stanza is the right word but it's a couple paragraphs ready Yep this
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is the forest primeval the murmuring Pines and the hemlocks bearded with moss and in garments green indistinct in
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Twilight stand like Druids of ELD with voices sad and prophetic Stan the Harper's [ __ ] with beards that rest on
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their bosoms loud from its Rocky Caverns the deep voice neighboring ocean speaks in an accent's disconsolate answers the
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will of the forest this is a forest primeval but where are the hearts that beneath it leaped like a row when he
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hears in the Woodland the voice of the Huntsman where is a fat thatch roofed Village the home of the Acadian Farmers
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men whose lives glided on on like rivers that water The Woodlands darkened by
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shadow of Earth but reflecting an image of Heaven waste are those peasant farms and the farmers forever departed
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scattered like dust and leaves when the mighty blasts of October sees them and whirl them Aloft and sprinkle them far
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over the ocean now not but tradition remains of the beautiful Village of Grand Prix ye who believe in affection
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that hopes and endures and is patient ye who believe in the beauty and strength of women's devotion lists to the
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mournful traditions still sung by The Pines of the forest lists to the tale of love in Acadia home of the happy
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so it's a sad tale of a beautiful place that was ruined and all people's taken
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away I also texted last night just as like one more fun thing Forest who is my
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brother Kincaid's boyfriend and he's from Louisiana so I texted him like really late at night and I was like Hey do you I'm gonna talk about the acadians
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tomorrow anything I should mention and he said he's going to talk about Evangeline and I was like yes and he
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said he's from Evangeline Parish in Louisiana they named their Turtle of Evangeline which is funny oh wow um and
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he said it's a fundamental story for the occasions and his family has been writing letters to Canadian relatives
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since the 1600s so um they've still been like keeping in touch with people in Canada who they all
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came from the same original group of acadians from France it's really interesting you know what's
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funny is whenever you first started the story I immediately recollected like
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probably a 10 year old bot which was
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we were our last company and we started expanding into the
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Canadian Market the the people in Quebec and french-speaking Canada were very
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much up in arms about why even though they speak English as well why would it
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wouldn't translate everything on our back end to not just French but quebecois Franco francophone and I
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remember having these discussions with somebody there and they were incense that anybody would not consider their
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language so sufficiently important as equal to English and how incredibly enraging it was to
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talk to somebody with that mentality that would be like me saying like look I know that there's seven people in Iran
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who can buy this product we if you don't translate it into into Farsi then I
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can't be a part of this at all it was just and then it also remind me of the rock Terrio story which was you know
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rock Terry obviously being uh French Canadian and how because of how
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prejudiced much Prejudice existed towards French Canadians anybody that
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was kind of like in the people Services sector were like so hands-off and like
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no we just don't understand his rustic ways in our mind that he's beating women to death with like broom handles like
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right it's like oh that's just the way it is he's just a rusty gold Frenchman it was like which also is its own
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Prejudice to think that like that's what a normal person would do it is it is I think I guess I don't I I I will
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probably talk about Canada again you know in the future but I definitely don't 100 understand how like they're
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British and French French I think it's like this because like the British ended up taking over but like they're still they were British subjects until like
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1980s too so I don't know it's interesting
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that was my very first thought was just like what's the right way to say it it
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was a unique variation of white privilege that has been absent in my life and only been experienced dealing
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with French Canadians interesting remember my Uncle Dale who was the best
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the last time I saw him before he passed away he drove me to the airport in Chicago and he told me that he got in
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trouble at work because he kept calling the Canadian team the [ __ ] Canadians and they're like Dale you have to stop
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saying that [Laughter] oh my God
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no we love it we love we love Canada Arcadian friends lots of fun stories up there so yeah this is crazy I didn't
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know that and I'm excited and I was excited when I first heard the story that they became the Cajuns I think that's super interesting you know that
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culture is like from there yeah it's really cool I didn't I never never even dug into that which I mean there's so
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many things like that where you never dig into it like why do people are this way in this part of the country like I don't know yeah and I never started that
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for Louisiana uh but that was that was cool that was really cool you should do you should do this you should go to
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well go to Canada because Canada's pretty on its own but if you don't want to go to Canada Epcot has a um has a
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beer and wine festival and there have you been to Epcot before
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I have but I was like eight but yes so Epcot well you wouldn't you would never you would not have appreciated but epcon
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has a beer and wine festival it's expensive right it's like probably 200 bucks a person because do you basically eat through every single country in
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Epcot and they're Canadian section was probably the coolest and most fun so but
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Canada itself was pretty but Disney also was a pretty good upgrade I mean I would 100 rather go to Canada than Florida so
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I saw this Tick Tock the other day of like these dudes in Venice Italy and one
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guy was like they literally have this at Epcot and his friends were like this is the real one and he's like but they have
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this in Epcot have you seen the Eiffel Tower in Vegas
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it's just it has way better lights in the actual Eiffel Tower
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oh God I'm still uncultured okay so Taylor thanks for sharing you want to
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share some emails or anything I do I have one thing to say to tell you that I forgot to
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mention last week is we talked a couple weeks ago about the Ford Edsel and
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um my grandpa had one so I wanted to tell you a little bit about it so my grandpa Finch my mom's dad is like a
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very I should show you his photo sometime he's like he's the 50s guy you know he had like the tortoiseshell
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glasses he had a little pompadour thing he wore a suit he wears a door-to-door Salesman like he is the whole thing he
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was in the Navy during World War II his dad killed himself because he lost all his money in the um in the depression in
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the like stock market crash I mean I don't know if he really died by Suicide but he got really sick and like I don't know maybe he did or didn't but whatever
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so it's a very American story that side of my family like they come they got here really really early there's like a
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a bar that my aunt and uncle actually just went to in like Virginia that like they used to like own and wear like one
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of the and like one of our one of the finches died at Gettysburg on the wrong side of Gettysburg which is a bummer but
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you know so this is very American right so he's exactly the guy that Ford was targeting for the Edsel you know like an
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upper coming and it worked so and he loved cars like he could like you know fix his own car and like you know did
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all of that so I don't ask my Aunt Kathy not to about it because she was old she's oldest um because she'd remember
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the most and she said um that Grandpa Finch had two edsels the
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first one was a yucky green 1959 sedan that he only kept for a few months he promptly traded it for a 1959 cream
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colored station wagon and all six of them in their family four kids two adults took a road trip to Montana to
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see family they had a great time there there was an earthquake in at Yellowstone Park during that time
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because and which was cool and I was like this time they were there and they're Edsel their very 50s family she
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also remembers that it had no air conditioning and no power steering and so my Aunt Kathy took and passed her
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driver's test parallel parking at Edsel with no power steering um one of the longest cars that existed
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so pretty fun nice and sense but yeah but Grandpa loved it because it was such a novelty especially after production
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was stopped did he keep it for a while do we know I think so I think after for a while
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yeah I think it's probably worth so much money right now if it was actually kept in like good condition yeah because
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there's not that many not that many three cool Taylor I'm gonna go ahead and
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