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Next up, we discuss the Black Widow of Texas, another woman on Death Row, Betty Lou Beets. Betty Lou didn’t have much of a chance, and she didn’t get a last meal - so we used #AI to give her one.
Betty Lou was married 6 times to 5 different dudes, we’d like to remind you that it’s OK to date people, and you do not have to get married. And, of course don’t kill anyone.
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[Music] okay and we're back to the magic of
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editing four days have passed since me and Taylor cut off the last podcast welcome to do the field the podcast
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where intermittently we will do a historic and or True Crime Story for you
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that is full of red full of red flags been released at once every no wait once every three days no twice a week let's
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do twice a week twice a week Mondays and Wednesdays easy peasy so we just
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recorded Taylor's podcast now that y'all would know because I'm going to edit this so incredibly well that you will never know that this is the same
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conversation just continued up over again it's a similar conversation because you stopped talking stop it this is a marketing thing that
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we never learned let me just stop undermining ourselves uh I'm pulling a tailor that's what I'm
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doing here yeah right okay so you're making a Diet Coke I am
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okay but I had to pretend I just had that Molson that Canadian Wilson I've never had them all since either I
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was gonna say it I might try I don't know I don't know if I I don't know if I need to there's so many good micro
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breweries now I know so my story okay I'm gonna dive right
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into it so in the interest of where you obscure stories I'm going with one of the most
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obscure stories I've ever come across it has to once again with the death penalty
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and with women oh I think the women who are put to death
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by the state are usually pretty famous because it's such a rare occurrence and I pointed out the episode we did with
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Tiffany Cole up here which episode where that was but Taylor I'm gonna ask you to give me a guess and I'm not about women I'm talking about just generally
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speaking guess which state per capita has the most executions in the country
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Texas I wrote here in the outline I wrote I wrote here in the outline
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literally I'm quoting the outline I quote quotes I knew you would say Texas so I wrote it in my outline and nope
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you're wrong and it was
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totally knew it wow amazing so the actual the answer is actually
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Oklahoma so her 100 000 people Oklahoma executes 2.83 so if you're
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if you're like if you're in a football stadium in Oklahoma one and a half of the people are in that
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stadium with you are going to be executed by the state roughly wow tell you spy comparison executes only
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1.97 or about two people per 100 000 so per capita but if you look at totals
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since the death row is instituted and they're reinstituted and deemed constitutional since 19 and which is
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like 1976 until 2020. Texas is actually executed 570 people which makes it so
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much higher than the next high State the next highest state in total not per capita is Virginia with 113 during that
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same time period so 113 570. so Texas is like I think I did them they did math on
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this where once every four weeks execute somebody which is like rare for every other state to do
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in total Texas is executed Six Women and I bet most people are familiar with the
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most famous one of those women do you know who I'm talking about here Ellie mornos no that's Florida
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Carla Faye Tucker I don't realize I might know who this is I'll get into it the story of her crime
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was super compelling because she did it with an ax which is like the most metal way to kill somebody ever and she also
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like there was a sexual component to it which I'm not gonna go into I think it's all [ __ ] but whatever doesn't matter like her story was interesting also she
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was kind of pretty so people paid attention to her right that was kind of the dynamic of it and she also in my opinion just had the
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[ __ ] the name right like Henry Lee Lucas John Wilkes Booth James Earl Ray Carla
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Faye tuckerly there's a cicado to it it's got to be three names there's like a cicada tone to the name that has to
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hit right and then people just remember you I think well I think it's I think I think we see their middle names so that like we can distinguish them from other
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people because like there's a bunch of Carla Tuckers out there that didn't do anything you know these are famous
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evangelist named Carla Tucker I don't know look it up but that I think that's why we add the middle name to these like
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Infamous people maybe maybe that although we don't do it for Dahmer Dahmer had a middle name didn't he
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didn't let's see Jeffrey Dahmer [Music]
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I'm sure this is also in here I think yeah Lionel Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer by Jefferson Dumber you're right does not
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roll off the tongue yeah exactly that's my point it doesn't hit right the note has to hit right
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anyways I'm delivering the point I don't have middle name so I can never be a famous killer I remember that about you because you play that dumb game at work
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we had to say your middle name if you didn't have no name you had to say watermelon so you had to say your name was far as watermelons open damage
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do you remember that I can't I don't Taylor I don't know which is true either I have the worst memory of anybody I've
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ever met in my entire life or you have the best memory of anybody except maybe Jay Godfrey oh my God or both are true
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oh my God I think maybe both but I have I have a weird memory anyway
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so going back to my story the first I'm covering today arguably has one of the
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best serial killer names ever Betty Lou beats oh that is a good name
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I wrote down she sounds like the girlfriend of a mobster in like the 1930s she's also a singer of the
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Tropicana Club you know I just kept picturing up Cameron Diaz and The Mask which is like the worst movie ever but
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like that's how her name rolls off the tongue weird opinion to have why I watched it recently and it's great
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Oh I thought you meant like it was okay I thought you were dissing the camera Diaz aspect of it not the fact that it's a terrible movie uh maybe I haven't seen
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I haven't seen that many many years so maybe maybe it holds up I don't know it does hold up I have a good memory and also how cute is Cameron Diaz in it
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oh my God she's so cute I know that was a weakness of many young young boys it
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wasn't true so this woman Betty was a series of
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walking red flags Betty lasted 62 years on this Earth from
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when she was born in 1937 to when she was put down by the state in the year 2020. so this isn't that ancient history
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she actually was executed two years after Carla Faye Tucker was executed and
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she still got no media attention nobody cared nobody cared meanwhile Carlo Faye Tucker was uh she was she converted to
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evangelism and she was on TV responsibly on National media like George W Bush was
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the governor of that time and so he was like but also is because like he was
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running for president right so he knew you'd run for president he was like I can't look soft on crime on a republican ballot so yeah I have to kill this woman
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basically it's so weird that we love the governor make that decision like what is that I mean it's not really
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the government I mean look like it sort of that's true but it goes through so many different like the governor can
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like can like do the stay of execution at like the last minute right because that I don't know maybe that's true yeah
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they can they can't so like but like by that point it's already been touched by several State appellate courts several
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Federal appellate courts the state supreme court the actual Supreme Court it has gone through probably like 150
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different decision makers before it hits the governor yeah at which point like they're the ones who are signed the
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death warrant and they're the they have the ability to not to send it oh they signed the death warrant yeah exactly okay okay that makes sense I mean it
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doesn't make sense but that makes sense yeah and then look with uh who was it Leslie Van Halen the Charlie Manson
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person who just got released like Gavin Newsom could have stopped that if you wanted to he didn't but he could have
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stopped that like that's another example like I didn't know the governors had that level of control where they could stop a
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um like what is it called parole yeah that's interesting we had a good conversation about it on our on our
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Instagram with a couple people I'm torn but I also feel like it's been a really long time but also like
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I don't know that those those crimes are so vivid in our memories
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you know I don't know how I feel about it on the one for for the sake of True Crime I'm glad she's out but in terms of
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like actual Justice being disturbed I don't think that was a good idea yeah that's my take on it
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going back to Betty so Betty's upbringing wasn't the greatest she was born into an impoverished household with
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an abusive dad and a seemingly mentally ill-bomb Betty became deaf as a child
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because of measles which apparently I looked this up happens to one in one thousand kids so one in a thousand kids
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who get measles end up being deaf which is nuts I did not know that was the thing we don't
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have measles anymore so that's good as long as you get kids vaccinated they shouldn't yeah but we yeah okay so
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we sub get vaccinated for it right yeah okay give the measles bumps rubella
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um I think when you're a baby you get it like right like your first day that's one of the ones you get well I guess I guess in this what year
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was she born 1932 yeah I guess back then they didn't have the vaccine yeah so yeah she also reported that she was sexually
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abused by her father as ms5 by age 12 her mom had checked herself into a mental institution
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which like meant that she would have to take care of her siblings so she had to be like an adult by like 12 basically
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my general read of this situation is I think that if women just weren't happy with their lives and their husbands just
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eating them and abusing them constantly people just thought they were crazy and they would just have to go to into like a mental institution that was yeah I
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think you're totally right I think that was like when you said that I was like that seems easier to do than it is now yeah yeah
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because they were like oh she like you know gets upset during her period and she's depressed [ __ ] her away get her
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straight jacket yeah yeah exactly exactly so this situation
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obviously didn't help with a child who's already traumatized with sexual abuse physical abuse alcoholic
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father and all that stuff the connection between Betty's adult or childhood life in our adult life is super opaque again
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back then people didn't really seem to care about like the development of kids or what was going on with them and so
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that is going to be reflected in this merger of her childhood and her adult
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life so I'm gonna cut off the childhood section here and go into where marriages
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because they started when she was 15. and there was a lot of them no so
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in total they were there were five husbands six marriages okay
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okay husband number one was Robert Franklin Branson this was the keeper
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this was the one the first husband they remember when she was 15. they were stayed married for 17 years how old was
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he I don't know how old he was I know that he was a worker in a zipper Factory
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that's all I know so I can't I don't know more detail than that husband number two is a guy named
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Billy York Lane they were married for less than a year husband number two marriage number three
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was again Billy York Lane they remarried two years after their divorce
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and the second time they got remarried it lasted for less than a year again yeah husband number three marriage
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number four is Ronnie threckhold this one lasts about a year husband number four marriage number five
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is dwell Wayne Barker this one lasted almost a year then husband number five
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marriage number six was Jimmy Don beats this one lasted a year obviously Beach is the name that she took for herself
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that is so much paperwork it is exhausting to change your name and I just don't understand you can date
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people and I've talked about this before [ __ ] exhausting and you know we
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shouldn't you don't have to get married every year so I'm gonna go into this so like the the part of her story is like kind
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of sympathetic but I don't know how much maybe I'm over
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the induction on the sympathy but I'll get into this a little bit it kind of explains the decision-making process
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so like I said Betty mood Mary Robert husband number one at 15 years old shortly after she graduated ninth grade
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and that's all we know about them Robert wasn't really a cat she was a worked as a zipper Factory in town and that's
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basically it the marriage ended because Robert left her for another woman uh the two of them had six kids together during
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their marriage so they're active apparently this was probably like we
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don't know for sure because stuff happened a long time ago Burger keeping stuff it was between multiple different states like I didn't say this but we're
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bouncing between North Carolina Virginia to Texas different parts of Texas like there's not a lot of
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end-to-end consistency in terms of the story and so part of it just being kind of pieced together but apparently the
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general thesis on this is that this was kind of a triggering event for Betty it was also a thing that kind of
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pushed her into a habit of substance abuse especially foreign
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exactly exactly I wrote here Betty wasn't really like a
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nice woman but also she was one that was like really abused a lot and maybe he was
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pushed to her limits so like it's kind of like a I I think both of those things can also be true at the same time
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it was noted that during her marriage to Billy he would drink Billy is the second
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sorry the second husband so during her time to the second husband second and third husband right your marriage the
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second third husband Billy he would drink a lot and would beat her regularly to the point where it's documented that
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he broke her nose at one point yeah shortly after their first wedding
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she would shoot Billy twice and claim self-defense he lived and the only theater again
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I'm getting you that the only issue her self-defense claim
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is that she shot him in the back she shot him twice in the back and if I'm a
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self-defense perspective like unless he was like I'm gonna turn around and grab this baseball bat and then turn around and beat you to death that's not
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self-defense the guy's walking away from you Betty was acquitted of this shooting because Billy refused to testify against
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her and basically said that he was exactly as big of a abusive piece of [ __ ] that Betty claimed that he was
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right I mean he wasn't great he wasn't great they remarried after she's acquitted after she shot him after she's
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acquitted they get remarried after the second marriage to Billy fizzled she ended up marrying Ronnie I
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don't know why it fizzled again the details are hazy because the people are kind of just like what it's a whatever loose culture I guess she made this guy
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Ronnie at a time they all lived in Arkansas and apparently the physical abuse went both ways with one documented
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encounter being Betty trying to beat Ronnie with a tire iron like chasing him around like a Looney Tune like it was
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one of those things where people actually took me out of this and was like that's weird so you can tell that like her mental stability in terms of
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how to cope with things isn't high functioning let's just put it
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back loose sleep so her and her kids while she's married to Ronnie would eventually leave the situation and move to Dallas
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and when Ronnie came down to try and rehabilitate the relationship she tries to run him over with a car
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he survived the encounter and then was like [ __ ] it I'm done I'm swimming back to Arkansas I guess this is this is this
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is a divorce what's funny is at this point in Betty's story this is the first time the theme
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I'm going to articulate now is the first time that she's gonna actually face shell time and it's absolutely ludicrous how it happens so she again
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trying to do what she can right she was trying to work as a topless dancer in a strip club where she already worked as
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like a bartender or something and a player but here is this this would
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have been the 60s I have no exact day but 1960s I wonder if it was it was a
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jack Ruby's Club oh my God you did own a strip joint in Dallas in
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the 60s right wow that that would be man that'd be a
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wild tie-in yeah I'm sure he knew her boss either way you know yeah yeah exactly
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so she was trying to do she's trying to get this job and she has to do an audition during the audition she undresses
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completely which I guess in that time was illegal and she gets arrested for public lewdness
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so at this point she shot one husband twice she's tried running over another
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husband so two attempted murderers but she gets nude in a nude club and
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that results in a 30-day prison sense talk about the Puritans right yeah so um
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it makes no sense so we're fast forwarding a little bit to 1983 to August of 1983 she reported that
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her sixth marriage fifth husband that guy went missing that guy's name was
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Doyle wait was it Doyle okay there's so many of them yeah Doyle so Doyle goes missing okay she reports this to to the
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uh to the authorities the nope nope I messed up I skipped a marriage deliberately that's
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what I did so in August of 1983 she
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reports that her sixth marriage to husband number five Ronnie
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is that his name Ronnie I'm looking at I'm looking at the the Wikipedia it's
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Robert Billy Ronnie Doyle Jimmy okay thank you so in August of 1983 she
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reported that her sixth marriage to husband number five Jimmy that guy goes missing okay Betty
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had his son with our first husband the kid's name was also Robert Branson that's named her first husband so this was a junior and he ended up telling
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police that his mom told him to leave the house on August 6 of 1983 which he did and when he came home he found his
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stepfather Dead with two bullet holes in him oh my God he would later tell the police that his mom asked him to ditch
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help him ditch the body then took Jimmy's fishing boat out in the middle of a lake and abandoned it to make it
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look like he fell overboard the police would end up spending weeks dragging the bottom of the lake looking for Jimmy's
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body to no avail police would receive a tip that Betty had killed Jimmy and his body was
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somewhere at the house I actually like tried finding this information everywhere like looking at court records
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and everything else there's nothing more to this piece of information than it was just an anonymous tip we don't know who
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gave it or anything like that wow they knew so the police executed warrant and fine
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not only Jimmy's body in a well on the property but also the remains of husband number four marriage number five Doyle
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Wayne Barker she had taken steps to conceal the body the well had been covered with Filter but I imagine that that alone would
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probably look a little bit suspicious instead of just like maybe throwing the bodies and then I'm putting some tarps over it so the police found the corpses
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basically but I wonder how many people are the bottom of wells
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so this so I wrote this down so this wasn't a real well this was decorative so
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well I had a hole but it was just as the whole was as um right yeah so it was
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built up and then the hole was just where the level put them in a box in the backyard yeah exactly so like it turns
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out that Betty had asked Jimmy to build the well knowing full well that she intended on killing him and dumping his body in there
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that's not funny I'm sorry to me but that's funny yeah you I don't know this guy but he he
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probably wasn't the greatest catch I don't know regarding Doyle he was a roofer and the
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two were also in a physically abusive relationship in marriage or unusual they would divorce but still see each other
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after they got divorced it was after the marriage ended that for some reason she ended up shooting him three times and
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killing him her daughter is the one who would testify to helping her dispose of duel's
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body but for reasons I couldn't ascertain she was not charged with dwells or sorry she was charged with
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dwells murder but never went to trial for it so the cops like we know you did it but this will not be part of like the
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things that we're gonna actually prosecute you for so she went to trial for the murder of
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Jimmy but last husband there's so many names it's like I'm confusing myself with a
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different number of men involved here so she goes to trial for killing Jimmy the last husband one thing to note which
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explains how she got the death penalty was abuse like her abuse at the hands of
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her husbands was never a factor her offense attorney apparently really sucked and the spousal abusive only came
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out after she was trying convicted and sentenced to death that guy by the way moved on to become a district attorney
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in Texas he was Prosecuting a capital offense murder case and told the defense
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attorney that they would have to pay him 300 000 personally to drop the death penalty from the capital case so like he
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ended up going to jail well he was a really good he apparently was like he constantly spelled the booze too at the trial so he
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was like constantly drunk but I mean again again it's like the 1980s so maybe everybody was like that's fine I guess I
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don't know yeah I mean I feel like that's fine but like the uh the oh my God what an [ __ ] nobody's in jail
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yeah uh her so to my earlier point that like why her dad why it resulting in a
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death penalty case the murder charge is actually called Murder for remove narration
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I'm not a really hard time with that word but essentially it's not renumerations remember it's remote
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remune narration not remuneration yeah it doesn't end at the start it's not
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remuneration like you would assume okay anyway what does it mean so what it
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means is that you killed somebody from a financial gain so she killed these two guys because she wanted to collect the
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life insurance and pensions from her husbands it wasn't like she was in immediate
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danger it wasn't like she was actually that was the day he was going to kill her like it was none of that it was because she just wanted a financial
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incentive off it her legal defense legit was that her kids murdered Jimmy so she
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told she testified and told the court that her two kids tried to kill this
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this husband of hers so she was like not yeah she was not a good she's not a good
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person but oh my God all right I just wanted to say I was looking at her I'm reading something
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about it because I'm like um I was looking for one of the things you were saying I'm looking for the word remuneration whatever
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the well that he was in was in the front yard yeah it was it was that's hilarious I feel like that's that's I don't know I
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don't know I think I've never heard of anybody being buried in the front yard I think that I wouldn't have filled the
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well up I probably would have dug the well deeper you know what I'm on top of it again we
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need to stop giving ideas to these colors but we need like a stop talking emoji in this Zoom to be like seriously
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stop talking you're buried we're burying ourselves deeper and deeper every time we go into our narrative here
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um I watched a YouTube video of a doctor and counselor who specializes in mental
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health his channel which I highly recommend is called Dr Todd Grand or Grande it's Grand with an e and it is
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not exciting like he does not there's no flash Cuts or anything it's just a man
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sitting quietly behind a desk and talking facts about the case in his
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analysis of what he thinks happened but it's really good because he's very like deliberate in his analysis and he
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analyzed Betty in her story and mentioned that by all accounts it was clear that her intelligence was lower
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than average like she was not totally there mentally the fact issue is you had
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sorry I'm so sorry I'm using this do you think that that's like need your own nurture you know like is
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she like that because she never got much of an education or is she like that because she saw some really smart like
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can you can you educate yourself out of that I I think up to a point I think up to a point because think about like you
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know like she she seemingly chose to drop out of school and get married to
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that guy when she was in ninth grade yeah I mean choose I mean I don't know if that's I know I know but it's like
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parents are abusive I know I know yeah yeah it's tough it's tough I don't know but either way by this time
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she hasn't done much reading no definitely not that and this guy doctor
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Dr Todd Randy he also mentioned that the fact that she was deaf
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also completed like yeah it also created this like barrier in society yeah so she
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was alienated from society by virtue of being deaf she was alienated
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from others because her intelligence was lacking anyways so she couldn't really
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keep up conversations in the end of the mix every man that came into her life in whatever capacity they came into her
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life abuse her in some way yeah she so she had to work out how to
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survive in the world in her own way and when you have all those factors colliding in one person they might not
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have the ability to cope and adapt in a healthy way what he called it was maladaption so like dealing with stimuli
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stimulus like you know if it's like when we talk about that Egyptian Guy where I'm like there's a point in culture
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where you have to make a decision on like I'm gonna go with my programming or I'm not gonna go my programming like that's coming with this it's like it's
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like yeah like are you is it okay it's obviously not okay to do what you did but is it
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understandable probably you know yeah his point was that it's possible that
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anybody in her exact circumstances would have done what she did basically yeah
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yeah so she would appeal her conviction in sentence at the same Federal level she
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was supposed to be executed first on November 8th of 1989 an appeal whole to
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that execution a week before it was supposed to be carried out and this was this blew my mind because I
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the amount of times for execution was stoppage right before supposed to happen had to be like insane like what do you
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feel like it's six seven days and okay now now it's stopped so that one the
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1899 uh execution date got suspended then they set another execution date for
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a little over a year after that on December 6th of 1990 three days
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before the day of that execution a federal appeal put a halt to that one as
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well and then two days before she was supposed to be killed no wait sorry oh
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that's right so the appeal that's what happened so three days before the date of that execution
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there was an appeal that a federal court granted that didn't res get received by the uh
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the prison until two days before accident so she didn't know she was not going to be executed until December 4th for a December 6th execution day wow she
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would follow appeal after appeal throughout the late 1980s until she exhausted basically every Avenue of appeal it went up to the state uh
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Supreme Court the federal Supreme Court went up to at that time it would have been Rick Perry because by this point
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bush had yeah bush bush had started his campaign so he
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was not actually Governor at this point so this would have been February 24th of 2000 what is Rick Perry doing these days I
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forgot that I don't know I don't know um Dancing with the Stars potentially oh he's he's on the board of
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a an oil pipeline company that makes sense um we have a question I feel like
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why can't you just be like I can't believe she didn't get a new trial because of her lawyer
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right well I that was part of the thing that they appealed so the fact that you have
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incompetent Counsel on its own is the thing that determines whether you get a new trial or not whether a competent
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Council would have done anything differently that could have resulted in a different series of circumstances that
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wouldn't have resulted in a guilty verdict so it's not just the fact that the guy was a piece of [ __ ] the fact that he was drunk the fact that he got
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caught trying to sell a execution for three hundred thousand dollars have been after she was executed anyways that
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would not have been that would not have gone into it the fact that nobody brought up the fact that she was abused
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probably wouldn't have played that much of an effect because the charge wasn't just murder or like second deem or it
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was murdered by remuneration okay the charge was to get his money right
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exactly exactly so I I would assume that that's part of the logic to play then
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it's like why that wouldn't have been enough to turn this over so her day came on February 24th at 2000
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by law in Texas executions are held um starting at 6 PM so shortly after 6 PM
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is usually when people are brought into the death chamber in Huntsville and executed Huntsville I've driven through
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it many many times it is a very scary City
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full of screaming ghosts full screaming ghosts because I mean 570 people you can
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see the jail like is when you drive on the interstate you can look over and you can see Huntsville sitting sitting right
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there there's McDonald's there there's like you know it's just small town [ __ ] right it's just all small town
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[ __ ] but next to you is this like immense complex above like death and
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like destruction like it's crazy so they have a museum there so the
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museum there is where the uh original old Sparky is and a host of other items
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it's a prison museum it's one of the most uh popular prison museums in the country and it's in Huntsville which I
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actually thought to myself I need to make it a point to go visit that at some point but it is a terrifying place that is uh if you didn't grow up near it
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probably isn't worth the trip but yeah it has it has a special place in Texas history I think
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so she did not request any final meal and she made no final statement and she
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was injected with the lethal injection which is in Texas entirely it's one
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substance usually it's a three substance cocktail that makes up the injection in Texas it's Pento Barbers Halls is just
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basically an overdose of heroin more or less and yeah that was kind of uh that was
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the end of her and it's sad because she could have actually had a really good final meal because Texas didn't stop
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providing custom final meals until 2011. because some guy like ordered a bunch of
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stuff yeah he ordered like 17 lobsters a dozen crabs shrimp cocktails filet
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mignons and he didn't eat any of it and they're like we just spent like three thousand dollars we're not doing this ever again I feel like there's a middle
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ground to that yeah so other states actually did do the
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same thing so other states also removed the we can order whatever you want thing and put like a 20 or 30 cap on it I
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forgot what state it was Texas was like we're not doing this like you didn't let your victim have a final meal you don't
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get that luxury either which kind of makes sense well actually so this reminds me of speaking of Leslie Van Houten and her
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getting out I remember another woman um one of them maybe I said Squeaky from is she dead
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who's the one there's one that um died and when she died her family was
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like she died peacefully in her sleep and that pissed me off because I was like yeah if anyone deserves to not die
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peacefully in their sleep it's a member of the [ __ ] Manson family you know well squeaky didn't do anything wrong
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squeaky was just like I mean sorry she tried to kill Gerald Ford so she did
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something wrong but she was not a part of the murderers okay the original man's
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murderers sweetie was that's so funny yeah she only went to jail for trying to kill Gerald Ford
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only is she out now
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there's no way she's out you can't try to kill a president get out of jail okay oh my gosh she's been out since 2009
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oh my god I'm laughing did you ever watch did you watch I watched 30 Rock no I never got into that there's a
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doctor it's played by um Chris Parnell and um there's he's a doctor and it's
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pronounced it's spelled space man but he calls it specimen so he's like his name is jimin and on screen from uh Wikipedia
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page it says in 30 Rock Dr Leo's jimin says that he's dating Squiggy from who he describes as difficult
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[Laughter] that's funny um wait I'm reading this
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this thing in 2019 in a televised interview from said about Manson quote
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was I in love with Charlie yeah I still am end quote
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your [ __ ] together that's funny
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um okay anyways that is Betty Lou beats uh she's a sad woman I don't know if the
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death penalty that doesn't seem that doesn't seem right yeah the rest of the ones that I read about
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you know okay obviously she's not a good person sure but she had like she was someone
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who was never gonna win you know they're gonna win yeah yeah she was it's like when you hear them talking about last
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podcast talking about like Henry Lee Lucas and like she like was raised in a
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chicken coop with like a prostitute mother like being beaten to death like you're never gonna make a good person
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that way right yeah I mean like I've heard like very rarely someone can can pull themselves out of that but it's
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hard man like I don't know it is it is and I read the stories of
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the six other women who have been executed in Texas and hers was the story
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that was the most like uh coin flip you know the other ones
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were obvious other ones were like luring or like being a prostitute and luring men into your card like shoot them in
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the head and steal their money like it was just like like okay like sure your childhood could have been rough but like
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that's just like very obviously predatory behavior um so I don't know
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I don't know no good no good things yeah yeah raise your kids right people
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especially just race your kids right like that is the only way for us to have a better Society is make better not make
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better kids have be better parents so did you this is terrible did you see
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that okay you know that they're they're awful you know I don't know what that is so they're the women who are like trying
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to ban books they're just like very very very right-wing and like a very very bad way
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um they quoted Hitler in one of their um newsletters and it's a quote from Hitler that basically says if you
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control the children you can control the future is that literally what I just said it's very similar to what you just said who owns the youth gains the future
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from Hitler which I think was like I feel like you get the same sentiment out if you quoted Whitney Houston and said I
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believe that children are the future Whitney Houston great thank you that's a yes you were allowed to put
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that in your newsletter you're not allowed to put a Hitler quote on your newsletter wait I okay but you use what I just said in a newsletter because I
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kind of said it in a better way than that definitely anyone but Hitler there you go we as we learned as we
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learned about last son so that's our story that's our story of Betty Lou beats and you know what I
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started with I started with that guy who oh my God in La they caught him he was
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like 85 year old black guy who killed like a ton of people remember Lonnie Franklin the thing
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something like that but I started going through the Grim sleeper yeah the Grim sleeper yeah yeah I started going
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through a story and I was like just reading off the list of his victims would be like an hour 20 minutes of the
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podcast it was like I can't like it's like at one point I was like why don't I try to talk about people who people
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don't talk about as much because their their victims weren't as important to society and I was like dude maybe it's
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not that maybe people also reach my inclusion was like if if you actually go through his list of victims like who's
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gonna you telephone pole 93 women
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that I mean that's just yeah when she killed it was almost like hundreds and
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hundreds of rapes and burglaries and like he was just like so I think that's why his case doesn't get much plays like
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it's just like dude there's nothing like Charming about the story at all it's just like a absolute psychopath yeah
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just like murder murder murder murder murder murder murder murder um wow well crazy next week more charm
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stories yeah a little bit more Charming next week and next week people just so you remember is Oppenheimer and Barbie
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so get your tickets I'm excited I'm gonna be out I'm going to New York I'll be in New York next weekend and I will watch it with my
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