Next up! Step into the ring and explore the life of wrestling's enigmatic icon, Bruiser Brody. Known for his electrifying brawls and larger-than-life persona, Brody captivated audiences worldwide! He did not captivate José Gonzáles enough, unfortunately, because he was murdered in 1988 at a wrestling event in Puerto Rico. Join Farz for this wild ride! Extra points if you’re a child of the 80s and remember how fun professional wrestling was! Is it still fun? Photos via the sun, public domain, & #midjourney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com
Next up! Step into the ring and explore the life of wrestling's enigmatic icon, Bruiser Brody. Known for his electrifying brawls and larger-than-life persona, Brody captivated audiences worldwide! He did not captivate José Gonzáles enough unfortunately, because he was murdered in 1988 at a wrestling event in Puerto Rico.
Join Farz for this wild ride! Extra points if you’re a child of the 80s and remember how fun professional wrestling was! Is it still fun?
Photos via the sun, public domain, & #midjourney
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fancy seeing you again hello hello hello so you just like just don't change for
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four days is that is that which one on here yeah I mean that's not out of the question I do have piles and piles of
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laundry to deal with later so who knows what's what does what does you and
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Juan's usual okay so hold on I'm gonna reiterate a point that I talked about on the last episode having to do with me
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flying from DC back to Dallas and that was as angry as I was or not angry I was
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just like frustrated because I wasn't getting my way because my child there was all these couples around my
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age with like kids yeah and I thought about you and Juan and was like dude I bet they would be so
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composed in this situation but I did see one couple who were being so mean to
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this old lady who was their Uber driver that came to pick them up with their kids like the woman was like screaming
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at the old lady because like she didn't know how to unlock her own doors because maybe it was like a new car it's just
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old whatever you know whatever yeah and she was so mean to where she ran over to her and like opened the door and was
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like this is it and like she'll pushed the button for her and slam the door of her and I was like I get that you're upset man and I I get
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that it's got to be worse for the kids but like we can we can we don't have to devolve you know like that way
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um so anyways I did I definitely um was mad at the
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in at Newark Airport I was upset with the people in the um in the security
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line because there were like 14 people working there and none of them were doing one thing and there was a shoe stuck in the conveyor belt so no one's
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luggage was going through and I was like excuse me sir there's a shoe and he was like uh and it's like walked away so then I took got someone else and I was
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like excuse me there's a shoe and the other guy goes I you already told me and I was like I told you five minutes ago you didn't do anything and then one was
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just like oh my God stop yelling at the people here but I'm like I've like I've never seen people more worthless than the people that I've seen working at the
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security in Newark Airport that's like my experience earlier when I stopped at Chipotle there was one guy and he
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couldn't didn't know how to roll a burrito he literally he broke two burritos and they kept getting new
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tortillas and trying to roll them there's like eight people behind like just try and ask for help or one of
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y'all pay attention to this guy and help help your colleague oh my God so yeah I was I was
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potentially irrationally mad then and then once was like okay like don't be mad because then all of our logos had to get like looked at anyway it's unusually
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but usually when we're waiting um Juan will sit down with the kids and I'll walk around because I need to like
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get up my nervous energy you know that's the thing y'all y'all have a good partnership Vibe where like when one of
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you loses it the other one usually doesn't and so yeah it balances I'm really lucky that way it really yeah
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that's great yeah jealous um okay so oh yeah welcome to Doom to
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fail I'm farz this time this is Taylor hello there you go uh and last this week
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Taylor did a true crime slash history one and I'm gonna do a true Prime only story and I'm going to focus today's
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story on the entertainment slash Sports industry oh
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I'm going to be covering professional wrestling and I'll be covering a
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particular wrestler who met a very tragic fate can you guess who I'm talking about this is the one who killed his family no
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that's why I said that because I knew you think I know that you think I'm predictable and I would have done Chris
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Benoit so I was like ask her she'll say Chris Benoit and I'll say Macho Man Randy Savage no but he did he die tragic
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death I thought he died he died after doing something that like
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hurt him then he got sick in the hospital I'm just gonna name wrestlers until you tell me so you just tell me Macho Man
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Randy Savage dude yeah he had a heart attack
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Ah that's I know what you're talking about because everybody thought that he was on drugs or something because he was
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driving and then he just drove his car into a telephone pole and they thought he was hire a drunk or something but it wasn't he literally had a heart attack
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while he was driving and then drove into a tree also Macho Man Randy Savage is like one
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of my Idols um so yeah that's right anyways the guy that I'm
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talking about his name his actual real name is Frank Donald goodish but his stage name was Bruiser Brody
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so I'm gonna do a little bit of a history and a background of wrestling or
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professional wrestling as a concept obviously professional wrestling and actual wrestling are very different actual wrestling is a real sport professional wrestling has super
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athletes doing entertainment basically we came up in the 1980 90s we came up in
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the uh Vince McMahon Jr era of wrestling which was back then called The World Wrestling Federation the World Wildlife
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Fund was really upset about that shoot the [ __ ] out of them until they changed their name to the WWE
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that's when wrestling stopped being this like Regional local thing that all
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different parts of the country were involved in and became kind of like a unified organization under what is now
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called the WWE there's all kinds there's now it's becoming a little more fracture the aew there's a whole host of other
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ones that are popping around the country but WWE is still like the number one did you watch the documentary about WWE
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no there's a documentary about it and it's like two and a half hours long in the first two hours you're like this is
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so interesting what is going on like you learn all this history all this stuff in the last 30 minutes you're like oh this
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has been a commercial for the WWE because then it's like them talking to you being like you should watch it yeah
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I just watched a commercial for this yeah basically but like so Vince McMahon uh he kind of he made the transition
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from it being a sport really to being entertainment that's actually how they get around all the steroids steroid
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regulation the fact that they don't have to do any sort of testing is because it can't be considered a sport it's
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considered an entertainment that's why these guys look the way they do like nobody looks like that naturally right
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and part of part of that was with wrestling is developing characters you develop story lines you'd have
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villains who were then torn built up to be torn down by Heroes and all that good
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stuff before Vincent Vince McMahon came around and kind of unified it into this like
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storybook model of entertainment there was all kinds of loose federations of regional organizing uh wrestling
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entities around the country you might have seen pictures going around of Zac Efron looking like a
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weirdo with like square jaw and like a bowl cut I just saw this it's Zac Efron
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and the guy from The Bear yes yes you know what that is it's a movie is it
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about this so it is a movie about one of the most prominent families in professional
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wrestling before the era of WWF and WWE they're called the Von erlich family Fritz Von Ehrlich founded this entity
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called the WCW which was the World Championship uh uh I'm not reading my
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notes I'm going off memory and I'm talking about you know what scratch would the Federation was it was based out of Texas but it was it was the
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beginning of one of the most popular franchises organizations of professional wrestling the two guys the guy from
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um the bear and Zac Efron those were two of his kids Eric and Kevin I think their
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name their names yeah and they're still famous they're so incredibly famous wrestling family like they're they're
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royalty they're they're one of the of that caliber but back then this kind of
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wrestling wasn't really sanctioned by any any legal entities and so a lot of what was going on was people actually
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getting hurt people were really getting hit by ladders who were really getting hit by chairs their fists they were getting um people
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were using Staples on their own heads like like just like stapling stuff onto like the head of them themselves their
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opponent using razor blades to cut themselves oh my God yeah yeah it was it was it was actually real real legit and
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it was an incredibly bloody Affair and the bloodier it was the better it was for the motor because they were competing in the Regionals of like
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training people to show up their shows and they want to make sure that if it was gory enough that people would come
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to their shop so at this time wrestlers were considered independent contractors and they sort of still are they would
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bounce between promoters and had to kind of make a name for themselves drawn a crowd and earn a higher percentage of
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the ticket sales so on the one hand you have these like gigantic super athletes who can do and
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would subject themselves to extreme violence and also they were running like a one-man business they were trying to promote themselves and build an entity
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for themselves and a path to becoming kind of the next big thing so I bring this up because if you look
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at pictures of Bruiser Brody or watch any of his matches wait can I look them up yeah yeah
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actually I'll pause on this this would be the silent portion of our podcast while Taylor looks up Bruiser Brody
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foreign
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he swings like an actual chain around his head like like
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he's a crazy man like he looks like I was see him with the chain he's huge
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huge so the reason I wanted to look him up is because because how he looks in his
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appearance do you see how his his forehead has rivets in it that's because that's because of all the um
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scarification that's from like cutting his own face with razor blades and stuff like that because if someone hits you
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you want to like make it look real so you just like oh and then you have a razor blading just like swipe down real
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hard and just cut your face catch up oh my god well they want to be authentic whoa and all this plays into what I'm
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going to talk about later on with which is the tragic part of this whole story because when you look at this guy you're like he is crazy looking like he came
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off his Persona was a backwoods insane person who would do anything I see that
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wait why is he holding his hand like this holding his hand out like let me see let me see which picture what does that mean everyone who's who's looking
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at me he's like in a bunch of the pictures he's like holding his hand out like he's and it was like a gesture
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yeah I never noticed that was happening in similar several other things so
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okay going back to rooser uh he was a physical specimen even amongst
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other physical specimen who were yeah wrestlers he weighed 300 pounds and was
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six foot eight he was huge airplane
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yeah you you have to have to live oh look at the center all I love this up Taylor guess what the
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average height of an American man is 5 10. no
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right now the average height of an American man is five eight five eight wow guess what the weight is
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1 30. 197. oh so kind of heavy kind of on the poorly
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side and it's pretty short um generally speaking a wrestler these
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days is between six two and six five in height and 230 and 260. that's the average right in Spectrum this guy
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50 years ago was 300 pounds and six eight so like you look at him and you look at his size you look at his high
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and you can see the kind of imposing figure that he actually was and you haven't go ahead sorry my friend Taylor
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is six eight and it's delightful when we're together because he's six eight and I'm five two and we're both named
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Taylor and it's hilarious he's very very skinny but okay but he's so tall that like when he like reaches up for
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something like we were like at a party and there was like a little booth that had like a short like a a ceiling on it
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but I couldn't even reach and he put his beer on top of the ceiling like he can like he can reach things that you're like you could touch the ceiling
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like superheroes crazy so six eight is like just crazy tall
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um so the reason I bring all this up is because back then you had to maintain
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your reputation pretty carefully because that's the way you earn money so by all
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accounts despite loser being a terrifying looking and very difficult personal Guild professionally he's
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actually like a smart articulate and barely very devoted person to his wife Barbara Smith in the chop one child they
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had together and by all it counts everything he ended up doing professionally that made him kind of not
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loved he did it because he wanted to provide them the kind of life that he wanted them to have
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so on the topic of being difficult Bruiser was known to guard his character and look out for his family's interests
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pretty fiercely again his character was basically the ultimate alpha male so when promoters would bring him in to
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lose against their top wrestler he'd often disagree and refuse to do so or in some cases if he did lose he'd make it
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obvious like he would just come out into the middle of the ring and just lay down on his back like the match was over he
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just threw it like totally imprompted so interesting because like I definitely grew up watching wrestling and being
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like this is super fun I remember at one point I knew that it wasn't real but I didn't care obviously because like he doesn't really care but I also like love
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the stories but there is like but I know it's not real but also like did you watch the Andre the Giant
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documentary yeah yeah delightful but like the big Andre the Giant Hulk Hogan they didn't know what was gonna happen
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yeah like that's crazy to me that they didn't know it was gonna happen in order to decide what was going to happen in
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the ring and they'd like played off each other so they were like not you know actually like hurting each other in a
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terrible way they got hurt obviously but like I can't believe no one knew it was gonna happen it was on pay-per-view yeah well
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I think Andre got super hurt during that because Hogan slammed him and he was
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like 550 pounds and like his background forever yeah yeah but I think yeah I
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think that that was crazy to me I was like that wasn't like planned minute by minute they didn't practice they just like waited till they get out there and
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then like did their dance you know so this one happened in back in this day too where a lot of times the promoters
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would say you have to lose but then like the way you lose or what ends up happening you kind of like make those
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calls and those decisions in the moment in the ring with your opponent so it is kind of you're trying to like lose with dignity
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but in this case Bruiser would sometimes just say you know what nobody would ever believe I'd lose this idiot so I'm just
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gonna lay down on the ground and just lose by just being on my back because he was trying to guard his reputation as
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like the tough guy essentially there was one story where he literally stopped wrestling and just
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stood in the ring looking around and this was presumably done to piss off the motor because he disagreed that he
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should lose the other opponent to the wrestler in the match with him
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exactly exactly yes that is exactly where this is headed yeah so other
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wrestlers and most promoters didn't really like Cruiser very much since they're all kind of jockeying for status
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and position in the industry if Brody I said Brody I wrote Brody but I mean Bruiser if Bruiser decided he wasn't
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going to lose about he was about that he was paid to lose and lowered the stock
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of his opponent so the opponent was on the crescendo of his career he's supposed to win this giant battle against Bruiser and then Bruiser doesn't
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do what he's supposed to do and then it is he does his stock drops basically
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so in 1986 Brewster was on tour with a promotion called World Wrestling Council
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wwc for short and that is a Puerto Rican based promotion and one of their top
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Stars was a wrestler this guy named Jose Gonzalez who wrestled under the name Invader number one
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it was like a tag team there was it made her one of eight or two Invader three he was the Mainer one basically he was in there alone
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Jose had bouts with Bruiser and would regularly get the [ __ ] kicked out of him um and the matches not go the way they
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were planned to go because again Brody I keep saying Brody I'm trying to call him wizard was being difficult just one
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match after one match where Jose was being transferred to the hospital he was overheard by two other wrestlers one of
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whom will become relevant later Tony Atlas is saying I'm gonna kill that man one day referring to Bruiser like he
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[ __ ] him up like he didn't go down the way he was supposed to go down and he also totally [ __ ] him up and also if you look at the two of them side by side
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it's obvious like you'd watch those matches they're like everyone on YouTube it's like me fighting a child like it
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looks alien right so wait I'm sorry I have to stop again a
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second someone was playing chess this weekend that's like the time that you were playing chess against the trial then you yelled at the child the child
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was like why don't you practice and you were like I have a job
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actually I actually thought about that Reese so good he would like play me and then
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go play four other people at the same time like he was just like looking at me like uh okay and just move on you were like [ __ ] you eight-year-olds I'm a
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grown-up I have a car [ __ ] you I know that kid probably has a nicer car now yeah
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uh so in 1988 Brewster wanted to invest in his own promotion and found uh the
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fervor and passion of fans in Puerto Rico quite appealing he decided to become part owner of the World Wrestling
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Council this didn't sit too well with Jose who was a key figure in the promotion as our top build star and
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someone who also viewed Brody as the reason why his value as a top wrestler had been diminished over the past
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bounces they've had again this is the guy that said I'm gonna kill that guy one day on July 16th Bruiser was supposed to
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wrestle at the local Stadium in San Juan for WCW he was in the locker room with fellow
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wrestlers Tony Atlas in Dutch mantel who had traveled to The Venue together
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the following is from Tony Atlas and Dutch's account of that night
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they noticed that Jose was in the locker room when they first walked in they noticed that he was sitting in a chair
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with the two existing owners of World Wrestling Council Carlos colon and Victor Joe Baker
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Dutch and Jose left the dressing room not Taylor they just went their separate ways so from here on out we're basically
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going to rely entirely on Tony Alice's account the one thing to note about this is that so this all sounds kind of like um
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embellishment a lot of it sounds embellishing it's worth noting that for the past 40 years this story has never changed Tony Ellis has never changed the
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story he's it's been written down it's been documented he's been recorded saying it I watched
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recordings of him talking about this it's never changed so I'm I'm leaning in favor of believing what he says
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so he says that Tony says that Bruiser approaches him and asks him to do a
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drawing of his son because apparently Tony was a pretty good amateur artist Tony says that Jose approached him and
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Bruiser with a towel wrapped around his arm and asked Reserve to have a private conversation in the shower presumably
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about the matches coming up that night they walk into the shower and Carlos and Victor surround Tony which insinuates
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that they knew what was about to happen the way Tony tells it he hears a scream
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from the locker room and rushes into the shower and sees Bruiser hunched over and
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bleeding he says that his intestines fell onto his arm like that he was stabbed really really badly and Tony
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laid on him basically trying to protect him one of the things that he said was that Bruiser
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told him like don't let them hurt me anymore is what he said apparently he was still holding the
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picture of his son his son it was a picture that he wanted Tony to draw for him as he was kind of bleeding out from what what his account of this was is
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that Bruiser wouldn't have seen what was going to happen Jose had a knife that was covered and
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he's walking in front of Bruiser into the locker room and then just turns around quickly just sticks it in him
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because to Tony's Point like again if you look at the two you like there's no way this guy would ever get the drop on
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him because he's just so much smaller and that's the way that he would have been able to do it
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Bruiser is laying there for with Tony on top of him for about 45 minutes this was
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the night of a show and Russells were kind of coming and going out of the lock room and also there's traffic jams slowing down the progress of ambulances
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trying to get the Bruiser because everybody was trying to get to the stadium to watch wrestling match but at this time right Bruiser is still alive
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it's 45 minutes in so this is I'm getting into like conjecture territory here I wrote down
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the following to me smacks of cultural differences here between American versus Puerto Rican Dynamics and also Community
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differences around wrestlers when paramedics arrived they couldn't lift
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Bruiser so they asked the other wrestlers to help lift them onto the gurney and nobody would help
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the idea being that they were in Puerto Rico wrestling for Puerto Rican promotion this was an American that was
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dead on the ground and the idea being that this probably has some ties to the business of the organization and they
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don't want to get involved who was he dead still alive still alive so other wrestlers wouldn't
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help but Tony was helping Tony was the only one helping and Tony's the one that lifted him up he was only one that could
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lift him up eventually when he gets to the hospital the doctors were very slow
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to get to him according to Tony what he was told after asking for medical attention for Cruiser was that we'll get
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to when we get to him basically insinuating that establen in Puerto Rico is like catching the cold in the U.S so
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was not a priority to do anything to help him I mean Puerto Rico is not doing
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well my about a whole my whole side of the family on one side is from Puerto Rico and Juan's dad is a doctor in the U.S
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Puerto Rico is in the U.S but as a doctor he traveled around but he was in Puerto Rico and he got into an accident
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on his bike um because he rides his bike all the time and he broke his hip and they were so upset that he was in Puerto Rico and they like watched it like his
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legs are different heights he was not as good as being America and he and he is like could have spent the
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most money you know what I mean like he got the best medical care but it wasn't it wasn't as the equivalent to being like State side because Portugues has
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such shitty resources well so I I was like I thought part of this snack
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of like Prejudice and so I started looking into some like numbers and looking at like what would be a good
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indicator to this I'll get murder rates so this happened in 1988 I found murder
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rates only from 1990 onward in 1990s actually when Puerto Rico
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started doubling down on violent crime so probably not 100 accurate
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but even in 1990 the murder rate per 100 000 people was 18 people
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by comparison in the U.S per 100 000 people at the same time it was nine so
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it was double the murder rate of the U.S which you know seems like a lot also one
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thing that I found was that the highest per capita murder rate today in the in the world is Jamaica with 45. whoa
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that's crazy and I almost wrote this sound for anybody that thinks that we're more violent now than we ever have been
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in 2022 the murder rate in the US was sex good for us yeah so it went down by a
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third um also on my trip to Hyde Park I saw
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pictures of Eleanor and hick when they toured Puerto Rico in the 30s um to see the condition of people there
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and to vow to help them nice nice Puerto Rico was beautiful I was there last year it's incredible I'm sure you go
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regularly don't you I've been a couple no I've been twice once for work for fun like my work used to remember when I
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worked at the hedge fund they would take us to the Bahamas in Puerto Rico every year oh there you go so fine but then also I went I think I went once for with
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the family we'll go again our great the kids great grandma lives there nice nice so anyways doctors
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eventually see Bruiser and they tell Tony that he can leave so he ends up leaving he goes back to the stadium into
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the locker room he does his match and by this point the police are interviewing everyone and Tony says he's Sprites learn that the
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police tell him that based on the interviews of the other wrestlers that are in the locker room all they would say is that some crazed fan broke into
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the locker room and stabbed Bruiser and this kind of reminded me of the whole Code of Silence with police what
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is it the secret some I forgot the Blue Shield then Blue Line yeah yeah except
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for wrestlers Tony was the only person who said to the police that night that Jose is the one that stabbed him oh my
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God can we buy Tony something he's still alive he is so alive we should send him flowers or something yeah he well part
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of it was that again nobody wanted to lose their job nobody wanted to access this promoter and Tony
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was there on top of him he really helped his friend he wrote a book called Atlas colon too much too soon
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oh I like this guy yeah he's like a good dude especially when he looks like I'm talking doing interviews
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on this topic um so ultimately Jose is arrested and put on trial for bruiser's murder and
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this is where the Code of Silence thing really picked so prosecutors didn't really bring in any witnesses to testify on behalf of Bruiser on behalf of the
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State uh what happened in the locker room apparently they did ask for the testimony of Dutch and of
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Tony but they received those summons after the trial already concluded like
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it was like one of those one of those situations they didn't have a chance to do it at the end Jose claimed
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self-defense and realistically given the fact that Jose was kind of like a local local celebrity in San Juan
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and Bruiser was a terrifying looking human being that scared the fans they were like yeah yeah self-defense makes
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sense it's I think it was like a prejudicial thing in my opinion you know they're trying to persuade the hometown
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kid yeah and they I mean his reputation like
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preceded him because that was his job exactly exactly so but like it's worth
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noting that Russia would go into the crowd swinging in this chain so like right people would run away from him but
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like that's how he made money super fun like yeah
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so funny when you like hear like their their real personalities and this real story is you're like I was so [ __ ]
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scared of The Undertaker you know but he's not actually like a terrifying Undertaker who's looking at you under
26:44
his greasy hair like trying to embalm you you know but you're like ah why was Stone Cold I thought Stone Cold was such
26:50
a badass remember Kane Kane was Undertaker's brother
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thank God these guys are so alive they all die so young because of the steroid use but these guys are still with us
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Brothers of Destruction I wrote I wrote down that Jose's build
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height and weight was five foot ten and 230 pounds so it was like again looking at the two of them side by
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side it's like okay you can see why uh jury would think that this was a self-defense case but again again
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according to Tony he would have just turned around and stabbed him there was no conversation being had
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and then yeah Jose's fully acquitted he goes on to live his life he's actually still alive he's still kicking around
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San Juan he whoa wasn't a social Pariah whatsoever and he actually retired he
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spent years wrestling after that he actually came out of retirement briefly I think it was in 2011 2010 when he was
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like 60 years old and and wrestled again so yeah so those are the details of that
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night here's Tony speculation on what he thinks happened overall according to Tony Bruiser had
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been very vocal that this organization is Puerto Rican uh world uh wwc owed him
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about forty thousand dollars in pay for this tour and it was well known that
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Brody was definitely not shy about being the [ __ ] out of people they felt wronged him and he and he could
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and he'd been telling people that this was what he was going to do if he didn't
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collect on his forty thousand dollars beat the [ __ ] out of the owners of the wwc if he didn't collect mm-hmm
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that night in July of 1998 was one of the last nights before the tour would
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have ended which means that like he would have needed to get paid or somebody would have had to have gotten a [ __ ] kicked out of them
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the reason why Tony Dutch and brewser left the hotel to go to the stadium together that night is because Brewster
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had gotten stood up by Jose so it was well known that the two didn't like each other but they were professional enough they'd wrestle enough to where like Jose
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was like uh yeah if results to the stadium that night and he never showed he was in the locker room waiting for
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him when they got the locker room Brewster just went up to Tony and Dutch was like I got set up by Jose can I ride
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with you guys like sure go ahead let's do it the speculation that Tony put forth is that something was supposed to
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happen to Bruiser at the hotel before Jose was supposed to pick him up like a hit like there was supposed to be
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a hit on Bruiser at the hotel that's why he stood him up and was like he was going to be you know like that was that
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was that overarching idea Tony says that when the three of them walked in and saw the other three in a huddle they look
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like they'd just seen a ghost as though they were not expecting Bruiser two of them they thought he was already murdered they thought he was already
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dead well it was also insinuated that after Tony had left the hospital two security
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people quote unquote showed up and told the hospital staff to stop working on Bruiser so either way
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these guys want him dead yeah and there was like a whole storyline with Carlos cologne later on where he beats up uh
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Jose in the ring because for killing Bruce they turned it into right but he actually killed the first time we are an
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actual dead person who's a father who was like a thing ugh that was another
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part of this is the thing called uh k-fob in wrestling which is the the storyline
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the fact that wrestlers have to hold on to the storyline pretty closely to like not let the public get on in so there
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was also some speculation like this you know yeah he's dead but maybe this is all part of a storyline and the fact
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that they Carlos colon ended up doing like a whole bit on this later on show kind of further a real man is dead the
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real man's dad yeah and his wife flew to Puerto Rico when she learned that he'd been stabbed and it was too late he was
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already dead yeah [ __ ] poor everyone that's terrible so one thing one thing I would say is
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that after like watching a lot of interviews on this Dutch fantel in particular did a really great interview
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because he like was very vocal that like Jose should be dead for what he did there's a lot of people in the wrestling
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community that really really didn't like reserve because he was a top guy and
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usually one of the top guys whoever he's shooting for anyways and he was kind of
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a bully like he like if he thought that you were trying to [ __ ] him over or stand between him and his money or his
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family's money he would let you know and that's why like the threat of him beating somebody up over forty thousand
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I was like he's gonna do it like this is like an empty Bill threat like that's his presentation
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business yeah he's his own business and so that's another piece of this but realistically he was also part owner in
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this organization at this point so he could have taken them to court or something he could have done something different but like it never amounts of
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that anyways because they killed him sort of say don't kill people again yeah don't kill people generally not a good
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thing to do but yeah it's at that time he would have been basically he was
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essentially the rock or Hulk Hogan of his era of wrestling wow there was
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really nobody close so it's crazy that's the story and what's funny is his story is actually very similar to The Rock because he was
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also like a gigantic football player and he went out for the end so he played in
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he played college football and then he went out for the NFL he got cut from the NFL and he was like well what can I do
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it's like while my body's literally only made for football or professional wrestling he just went to professional wrestling exactly like like the rock
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played in Canada right so I don't know professionally if you're playing in Camp I don't think he played
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professionally in Canada I know the rock because I went to University of Miami and he was on the University of Miami
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championship team in 2001 when we beat Ohio State we I was a part of it
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was I was like I was like a sophomore in in high school
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um wow it's crazy a lot more stories in WWE like that one with the guy Cole's family
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and all that I feel like crazy yeah there's silence so there's a um
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show called this is where I heard the Brody story
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um I have another professional wrestling story to tell you tell me um you know Goldberg professor
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um I knew some kids who were abused and um Goldberg does a
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charity thing where he meets with them and just becomes like a a male role model who won't hurt them it was very
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lovely he's just like you can trust people he's a good guy dude like I've come to like find that generally
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speaking wrestlers are kind of like awesome humans you know like yeah John
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Cena seems like he's done the most Make-a-Wish gifts out of anybody or something the rock is constantly
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donating to Charities like they all seem like they're I mean I don't know some of them are
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more selfish than others but like generally speaking they seem like really great people yeah I have a friend who got pretty close and he
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um was like in their like training camp in Florida for a while but it was a lot of it was like you know your reputation
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you have to like be this guy no matter where you are you know yeah the whole thing maybe that's what it is maybe when you
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come out of that world you're like oh thank God finally my nice side can come out although I don't know nothing stone
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cold seems like he is a hard ass all the time like I've seen interviews with him
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like since he retired and I mean he's just a good old boy right he's like a giant good old boy and so he just acts
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like that he just drives that 350s and shoots guns like that's what he likes oh my God they're huge huge it's called the
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dark side of the ring uh they have several stories one of them is the loser
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Brody story and it is absolutely fantastic I probably watched that like a year and a half ago and thought it was
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incredible then and it still is they have they have several of those dark side of the ring uh it's a series so
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it's working I also watched the first I watch the first episode of the one about American Gladiators and it was also very fun I don't know if you watched that yet
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it's on Netflix I haven't seen it but did you did you watch American Gladiators oh yeah oh yeah so it's a
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story of how like they all got a [ __ ] deal they got like paid like a dollar you know to like to do it and like all
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this stuff and it's just really fun because it brings back a lot of memories of how freaking fun that was
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