Volcanoes part 2! – This is the story that you’ve all heard - in 79AD Mt. Vesuvius destroyed the Roman resort towns of Pompei & Herculaneum. Imagine not knowing what a volcano is really, then there are earthquakes, then there is pumice on fire flying through the air, THEN it’s pyroclastic flow day - and everything is buried. It’s a tragedy, but it’s also a miracle, because these towns are the only view we have into Roman life in full color. We can see their rooms, their frescos, how they ate, how they played… in a way that we can’t anywhere else in the world. Photos via the CC and #midjourney #AI Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com
Volcanoes part 2! – This is the story that you’ve all heard - in 79AD Mt. Vesuvius destroyed the Roman resort towns of Pompei & Herculaneum. Imagine not knowing what a volcano is really, then there are earthquakes, then there is pumice on fire flying through the air, THEN it’s pyroclastic flow day - and everything is buried.
It’s a tragedy, but it’s also a miracle, because these towns are the only view we have into Roman life in full color. We can see their rooms, their frescos, how they ate, how they played… in a way that we can’t anywhere else in the world.
Photos via the CC and #midjourney #AI
Sources:
Pompeii The Discovery with Dan Snow - Unveiling the Secrets of the Ancient City
The Ancient Ghost Town Of Herculaneum | Other Pompeii | Odyssey
2014 movie - Pompeii
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Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor
sweet and uh we're back Taylor can you just do the introductions
I'm going to keep doing the two-day thing you don't have to I mean we do what we want to do but hello welcome to
Doom to fail the podcast where we talk about historical or True Crime relationship or thing that was doomed to
fail that was never going to make it histories tragedies experiences things that happened and today we're going to
go into a historical story and I told you farz that I am drinking some wine
because as expected we're going back to ancient Rome and we're going to do
volcanoes part two no way yay okay I'm excited about the volcano stories I know
that we're not a volcano podcast but like we can kind of be a volcano podcast it's part two of seven volcanoes
um so this is the one this is the story of Pompeii and Mount Vesuvius yay okay I'm
excited about this have you been to Pompeii you're talking about this yet no I have a thing that I just refuse to do
anything that's popular because oh right cool yeah yeah I'm too cool okay so like
um you should go uh no I'm not going to I mean you literally told me how boring it was you
How boring is Pompeii
literally I didn't want to tell you how boring it was you know it was boring look it actually seems flat and there's like nothing there is what you told me I
don't think I said that because I want to talk about how cool it is like nine times in this so I just I take umbrage with that accusation one of us is a liar
and I bet it's me okay
I watched a couple YouTube videos when was Dan snow who's from history hit
who watching live and stuff it's really great um I also there's some kind of more
academic things I read one about the amphitheater one about some bones we'll talk about later and obviously like
Wikipedia to get some dates right and I also watched the 2014 movie Pompeii have you seen that
no it's Paul W S Anderson um we I have more talk about it later I'll talk about it more later but I'll
watch that it's like it's fun it's not great but it's fun so this is a story that's like
you think this could never happen to us and when you think about archeology and looking at these like ancient cities and
things even like finding ruins of things that aren't as well preserved as Pompeii the thing that
I think of is is like could anyone ever excavate my house like
could that happen to me you know like if today during this hurricane the mountain next to me falls on my house will they
find my house in 2000 years and we'll only know about me you know things like that because you think it will never happen but the people of Pompeii never
thought this would happen to them you know like every town that we excavate they
didn't know I think the reason why they would why
they like to ask excavate those things is because there was no real written history and so the only way to totally
understand how people lived was that but I bet people will know in like a thousand years probably how you lived
yeah I think I think yes I think you're probably
right but I also think that I think that because I think that our civilization is like at like a Pinnacle Peak part that
probably isn't Maybe I don't know it's a lot we have these
books this is not my line we have these books that are like describing the world to kids in a way to tell them that that
religion is fake and there is no magic but it's still cool you know and there's one of them where it's like you're like
oh this world is like perfect for us and it goes back and it's like every time and evolution whatever it was was
like this world's perfect for me and then something weird happened and then you evolved into the next thing you know so it's kind of like
I do Wonder between the two of us and three thousand years or if there's aliens that showed up and we're all dead and buried whether they would dig my
house up or your house first I did one we did have a big hole in the backyard because of a rainstorm and we
had a tractor come and fill it in but I put a beach ball in it just to confuse future archaeologists
Beach ball
that is very that is very on brand for you Taylor thank you so they'll be like was there a beach here what is happening
where they find that in the hole in my backyard it's ten thousand years I love
it um so yeah so there's also obviously a Dan Carlin story where he is obsessed
with um this one king at one point xenophon sees the ruins of the city and he says
what is that and the people around are like we don't know but it was Nineveh which is was a huge bustling City 200
years before and 200 years later it's in Ruins and no one remembers it so like yeah kind of crazy so
I'm going to read you a quote from Pliny the Younger I'll tell you more about him later but it's going to tell you a
little bit about what it was like the day in 79 A.D when Mount Vesuvius erupted and destroyed
city of Pompeii how does plenty the Elder know this I will tell you in a
little bit but I'm setting the scene okay sure you could hear the shrieks of women the
Wheeling of infants and the shouting of men some were calling their parents others their children or their wives
trying to recognize them by their voices people bewild their own fate or that of their relatives and there were some who
prayed for death in their Terror of dying many besought the aid of the Gods but still more imagined that no that
there were no Gods left that the Universe was plunged into Eternal Darkness forevermore
Pompeii
shit's getting destroyed it's super intense so we're going to talk about what Pompeii was the city in the area
what happened in 79 A.D and then how we found it because okay that's a super
cool story too so Pompeii is in Italy obviously people have been living in
that area so far as we know since about negative 8 000 again I'm doing negatives
negative eight thousand um there were Etruscans staminites the Punic Wars that Dan Carlin has a whole
big thing on happened around there um but now we're like just ticking over to the positive years like 50s 50 or
50-ish and it is now in Roman territory so the Roman Empire is you know building
and growing all over Europe and um and that is what Pompeii is kind of
under it's actually a fun story about Emperor Nero who we talked about a very long time ago but Emperor Nero had to put a
in 59 in like the year 59 there was a riot in Pompeii because to
um from Pompeii and the City of new Syria which was nearby there was like a gladiator thing and like a race or
whatever and they got in like a bunch of fights and a bunch of people died and it was like a huge riot in chaos so Nero
was like fine you guys can't have Gladiators for 10 years so we took away their right to have like Gladiators in
Pompeii they probably didn't actually like wait all 10 years but that's how they
Gladiators
got punished and they got in trouble for having the state right and Emperor Nero who did that which is fun all the Gladiators like thank God I know but for
real can I just like be a regular slave now your mom's gonna get eaten by a lion yeah um so Pompeii's on the coast it's
beautiful it's close to Naples I've been to Naples I had a terrible time in Naples I had like the weirdest time it was like half under construction and
like it was just weird but I did get to go to pompe and I'm glad that I did and you can't take the train down
um like Sorrento like the Italian Coast it's so pretty I think the day I went to Pompeii was like maybe the same day I
went to Capri like it was just gorgeous um there's another town near Pompeii called Herculaneum which was also
destroyed by Mount Vesuvius in 79 and talk a little bit about that too but Pompeii is like the famous one so it was
also a vacation town so some rich Romans people who lived like literally in Rome would have like a vacation Villa in
Pompeii so it's just like a nice place to be yeah weather by the beach so I was took some notes as I was
watching the 2014 movie so Paul WS Anderson he's the director he did Event Horizon in a bunch of Resident Evils you
know some stuff that we love this is not this is not his best friend guys
you can you can wash that over and over and over and over it's like crack oh my god
um yeah it's so good so um the guy who played Jon Snow is the main character
um in Game of Thrones kid Harrington Kit Harington yeah um also I think it's fun this is a side
Matthew Perry
an aside that the guy who invented vaccines was named Jon Snow really was
fun and then another fun one that always makes you laugh which is dumb but um the first like white person to go
into imperial Japan and kind of see what they were doing there on their Island where they're kind of isolated was named
Matthew Perry which makes me laugh every single time I hear it actually yeah so in the movie
um Kit Harington plays a slave in this time in Rome which talked about before there's tons of enslaved people it's not
really about race it's about you're just conquering so he plays a celt and the Romans come and they you
know come to Britain kill his family take him on as a slave he's a kid kind of wandering around which I hate the
idea of a child being alone and then someone like grabs him and he becomes a gladiator um also in the film
um Kiefer Sutherland isn't isn't it it's like a baddie and he is a senator and
another thing that I always find hilarious is that Roman Senators like in this time 2000 years ago just had like
regular dude haircuts you know like in real life yeah they just like look they have like their
haircut was like kind of not like shaved but like a close just like nicely cropped haircut and just like as a
regular dude haircut because I feel like I don't know I just feel like it should be different but it's not it's very like their heads look
very modern when they're wearing togas but that was the style then but the toad gives up gives away the time yeah so
the reason that I like that I like a movie and that I um you know things about it that it kind of
Living in Pompeii
gives you an idea of what what it looked like then look what it felt like when people were actually living there and it
feels very very modern so stuff that they found in Pompeii there were at least 31 bakeries there were baths there
were bars there were stores they found a fast food restaurant that I'll tell you about in a little bit at outdoor Market
there's like you know the streets are you know very well like made there's
these big stepping stones that you have to step across the street because there's like always chariots going by there's you know kind of water rushing
through there's horse poop everywhere so like it's people were really actively living there and living their lives
there um the things that you miss from excavations and from the ruins are like
the colors and the fabric and the wood and like the things that just like kind
of richness filled in yes exactly the richness of it um when you think about
ancient Rome you think about like for the most part I feel like you think about cold like
white marble and like you know all those things but it wasn't white it was painted you know like even in like ancient Greece like the cropless was
painted like that paint just has to come off after 2000 years but things were really bright they're bright colors you
know they were overhangs and curtains and clothes and you know just people like living their
lives and they had all this stuff and this stuff isn't there anymore but like we just have like the outline of it yeah
you know um and what else so okay so
Mount Vesuvius
there's some cool things that are in Pompeii there's like a big Amphitheater that we'll talk about and this is like
it's just a shadow of the past but it's the best shadow that we have of what life was like in the Roman Empire and
I'll tell you a little bit oh why so Pompeii stood in the shadow of Mount Vesuvius and obviously at this time
they're like natural disasters are because of the Gods like we pissed someone off we have to like do sacrifice a goat or like whatever
but they didn't know about volcanoes because how would they how would they know about volcanoes they don't right
you know like you just have never heard of it before how would you even think about a mountain exploiting you just
like didn't know so I've actually been to Mount Vesuvius I've been to Pompeii do you remember
that joke from Zoolander have you seen Zoolander oh God yeah like 80 times so
when when hansel's telling that story and then he's like cancel could you have you been
taking peyote for like six or eight days could this be in your head and he's like it was I've ever been to Mount Vesuvius
like I think at least she laughed so hard he's like falling apart haven't you been smoking peyote for six straight
days yes so um when I went there it was so hilarious and like kind of awful
because you kind of walk around it and when you get to the top they made you pay like five more Euros to see the
middle and I was like you so I had to pay like five more Euros got to the top and you kind of look over the edge of the volcano and it's like you know
like a flat scene oh you walk up your volcano yeah it's not active right it is active all
The Great Earthquake
volcanoes are active but it's not like gonna erupt tomorrow oh okay um it's not like it's not totally dead
because when you look over the edge like it is uh trying to like in my memory it's like a flat Sandy area that is
Smoky a little bit like it's hot so wait when you look in can you see the magma no you just see sand but you can like
tell that it's hot whoa yeah um and then also do you know who else climbing up Vesuvius
Mary Mary Shelley um the Shelties did that on their tour of Europe
which is fun um so anyway it's cool I think we should go to Italy it's very fun so now it is
um in like year 60 A.D positive 60 the emperor Titus is in Rome and things are
getting a little bit weird there's always been some like small earthquakes in the area and you just kind of like make a sacrifice and hope for the best
on February 5th the year 62 there was a great earthquake it was probably a five
or six on the Richter scale and it was a feast day people were preparing for a party and there was tons of damage in
Pompeii there are a lot of fires because oil lamps fell over and like caught things on fire
um there's a lot of things that just kind of crumble to the ground so they took us an opportunity to update some
things so now we can see that some things were pre the great earthquake and updated after they were rebuilt or they
were fixed um stuff like that so they built public baths after this they put like a veneer over some things but the
people who remember the Great Earthquake are rattled you know like they remember and they're they're scared because it
was scary you don't know what that was you don't know what the just happened and so in the year 65 emperor Nero and
Pompeo his wife visited um visited Pompeii we know that they were there um this is probably around the time that
Nero performed in Naples remember how he like sang everywhere it was like yes and won every competition yeah you'd be like
oh my God he's so good at singing and playing the violin or whatever um so and so near has been there but now
it's 79. so at 79 at Mount Vesuvius begins to erupt so originally we thought
from like the stuff that we know is that it was in August but now they think it was actually the 24th the 25th of
October we'll never know like exactly for sure but when they started Excavating more things they found things
like they could tell the fruit being sold were fall fruits and that they were
selling like dried summer fruits so like it was making that transition into fall people were wearing more clothing than
you would in August so they like think that it was October but I guess we'll never know
papaya population of anywhere from like 11 to 2 to 20 000 people it's hard to
tell exactly how many people live there um some people have like vacation homes there too so they could have been some
empty houses right you know what I mean um the eruption lasted two days and we
know about it from Pliny the Younger who I quoted earlier and he lived in Naples and he could see
Pliny the Younger
everything from the Bay of Naples so he could see the smoke and you can see what was happening but he he didn't he wasn't
affected by it like he didn't get hurt so he walked he didn't watch it happen and he wrote down his
um his account 25 years later and so that we know from what he said so like
also 25 years five years after it happened so it could potentially not be exact or whatever but
he was the nephew of Pliny the Elder so they're Elder and younger who's eventually adopted by him like his dad
died when he was really young and plenty of the Elder was very famous he was like a famous Statesman he was like a lawyer
he wrote the first encyclopedia just like a real Roman scholar Pliny the Elder he was also an admiral in the
Roman Navy so he was like a really like big guy physically as well he's a big
guy yeah so in 79 plenty of the Elder was 55. and so his nephew the younger is
back in Naples and plainly that Elder gets a letter from his friend Rick Tina in Pompeii she had a villa at the bottom
of the mountain and he got the letter in like time to go try to get her which is she was probably like feeling Rumblings
and being like I gotta get the out of Dodge yeah thinking about the earthquakes like no concept of a volcano
but potentially an earthquake you know right so he goes to get her um and he tries to keep people calm he
like goes to sleep and like takes a nap and it's like everything's fine you guys like we're gonna get out of here no big
deal like trying to remain remain calm um eventually the air starts to get Smoky and like he probably had asthma he
Elder the Elder
was like really big and he dies of a heart attack so he doesn't he never leaves Pompeii he he stayed there but I
think his friends get out wait who who Elder the Elder yeah okay so plenty of
the younger one of his other things was like I'm gonna tell this story so that you know that my uncle was like trying to be a hero when he died right you know
um so sip of wine probably as a wine
hopefully people got drunk when this is happening because what else the you're gonna do what else yeah
day one pumice starts raining down from the top of the mountain like burning rocks
just coming into the city reigning over the city um I mean if you could imagine that happening like in any City right
now and we understand what pumice is you know just like what the is going on my gods are so mad at us people start to leave a lot of people were able to leave
and they took a lot of their expensive things so some of the bodies they found later like people had like all their
Jewels with them because they're trying to run away with like their with their stuff um
there I learned about this I think in college I learned the story there's a story where there was like a basement area like a Cellar where they found a
bunch of bodies um later and they probably suffocated in there they probably were like let's go underground which I think would make
sense you would think that would be okay but then when the city was covered like they suffocated but in that in that place and they found a woman who was
pregnant so they found like you know her bones with her baby's bones like on top of each other but her bones were green
Day 1 Chaos
because she was wearing a bunch of copper jewelry that ended up which is like super interesting that she
was like in there holding her pregnant belly and like suffocating to death crazy um in the movie The Pompeii like the
this day is chaos which totally makes sense there's fire falling from the sky like you don't know what the is going on
um and I imagine that like the Richer people could leave which happens now and all the time you know like in 2020 yeah
you could you take a boat and just leave like before the big eruption started you
could start to leave you could get you could take your courses and try to get far enough away like that was still
potentially possible on day one because it sounds like one of those things like I mean look like okay so it doesn't
matter if like the big one hits La if you live in Bel Air or Compton like you're dead right like this
feels more like one of those situations where it's like it's gonna hit you and then your your opportunity to mitigate
the impact is pretty limited but you have an entire day like you don't know what's coming but it's still happening
only like the first day is just as it's just raiding wrecks of fire it's no big
deal I know that's why I was thinking
like that it sounds terrible and yeah yeah on your way out you can get hit in the head with a flying fire rock and die
yeah like so I'm sure people died during that too but people did leave which is good they said they were able to get out before the really really bad thing
happened because the really really bad thing happened on day two so day two is pyroclastic flow day which you've
Day 2 Ash
learned about before that's the day when that hot ass Ash comes as fast as possible in cover two
and kills you your brain boils you die pretty immediately things catch on fire
but like they're encased so fast you know so like
there's things where I know we'll talk about the bodies in a second but like there's doors that are like wooden doors
that we have plaster um molds of because the ash just like came around it so fast the doors burned
but it left the imprint inside the ash wow looks fast and hot it's coming just
so so fast that's the thing that I remember because my dad told me about the CVS when I was a kid before like
he's like my son's gonna be a scientist um she barely missed the mark but he told
me about Vesuvius and I looked it up and he was his main thing was like yeah like preserved everything because it was so
hot so fast like you just have it reminded me a lot of like atomic bombs and how like it like yeah there's a
memory that it leaves behind because of its ferocity that's very unusual yeah
that's what made me think of but I'm sure you're gonna talk about that no that's very that's very deep I get it
yes he sure is trying to make me a poet because that's obviously where my calling was I think this is where you're
headed um so yeah by the end of day two
the eruption was over and it would have been quiet and Smoky and like weird
because there's a whole like first floor of
the whole city is under this ash so imagine if like the first floor of an
entire city is just hot ash now um there are some rescue efforts that
Emperor Titus tries to do he sends people but there's nothing they can do like they know that everybody under the
ash is dead like there's no one they can save um looters and robbers go in and they're
able to see like oh I see the second story of this building I know this building was a large person's house and
they do try to like dig in and steal things so some of this stuff is like time to start by looters which again
people don't change the happens no you know um so some of that happens
um eventually there's like another small eruption in like 500 that kind of covers everything that's left so um and then
the second stories that are um that were above the ash you know they get destroyed by like that and like the
weather um Herculaneum the other town that was um destroyed that one got more Ash so
actually it does have two stories worth of Ash so there's a lot more we can see there um is also harder to excavate
because of that right um and then people like forgot they forgot it was
there it was like a rumor and like a legend you know like if you were alive when it was the town you went to maybe
you told your kids but two generations later no one remembered and it was just like an area that by the beach it
People forgot
changed the coastline it was empty you know and um Rome fell other things happened so
they just forgot that that it was there and um it's like when you go to Rome there's
if you're like in the subway in Rome in like underground the there's like parts of it where you they have like you know
glass and you can see Roman ruins because it was like ancient Rome and then like Renaissance Rome and then like
now Rome it just building on top of each other so they're just like you can't like build anything new and run you're gonna find something awesome you
know yeah but Rome didn't get destroyed it just continued so that's why we don't know a
lot of what life was like in actual ancient Rome the city because it was it's always been a city you know so you
just like adapt and continue to do things so
um in now let's get so that happened that day happened
a lot of people died it was probably a horror show who who knows when
they died mercifully they died really fast if they got like basically everybody die is that what the
dress is they think about like they really don't know they read something that was like 16 000 people died but I
know some people had like left but no one like was there the next day you know like either you left or you died there
was no like survivors right um so in 1592 so
like 1500 years later an architect named Dominico Fontana was digging for an aqueduct and he found some ancient walls
Underground Amphitheater
and paintings so he was like digging his well and he was like this is weird and like
found like a cavern in Herculaneum that was like a room
and there's rooms underground though they didn't know were there because they had been like encapsulated
in the ash yeah in the in the Dan snow documentary I watched the kids to go in there and
they're just like an underground Amphitheater it's like bananas you can see where people used to sit and like walk and all these things because it was
just like covered by things think of how many of those probably so when I was in
when I was in Lisbon I was walking um somewhere I I don't know where I was but listen's also like a
super super old city kind of like well Portugal in General's an old country and
it was weird like you're in the middle of the city and you look over and
the whole thing is packed full of buildings everywhere and there's this gape like in the middle of the city in
the middle of the street and you you Meander down there and they're like yeah we were about to knock this building
down to build another building there and then when we took it down to its foundations it went a letter deep or we
realized that underneath that was an Amphitheater there's this
you're walking dude I don't know what's underneath you there could be like the home of like the former president I
don't know I'm making sure enough like probably like there's probably stuff everywhere and I have a couple I have a couple
stories that reminds me of one I told the kids I was like we have to go to Paris Paris has built a type of Bones
like we've got to go into like the what's it called the parents for like catacombs catacombs exactly
um there was also King Richard III of um England was found in a parking lot in
like leicestershire like they were like building a parking lot they found a dead King because that
King Richard III
was like they just like didn't do a thing and then another one remember that you know Darren kuyu the city in Turkey
where it's like all underground oh yeah that farmer who like found it so
cool it's like a city an underground city that could hold 20 000 people that a farmer just like accidentally found so
like I bet there's probably a lot of those out there still there's so many um I think they found like the Leo Quan
which is like a really famous like Roman statue in a farm as well like there's just things that are like buried in
there it's so cool um but Dominico Fontana didn't really tell anyone that he had found this so he
just like kind of Let It Go um in the 1690s some people started to see the word pompeus
um carved onto things so they were like that's weird they just kept kind of like seeing things carved on things as they kind of went lower
um but they didn't really like do anything more than that um Herculaneum was officially rediscovered in 1738 by
workers digging for the foundations of a Summer Palace for the king of Naples um Charles of Burbon who was French
um and they they started to kind of dig it up in 1763 they officially identified
Pompeii the first thing that they found was the amphitheater they just like tripped over a rock started to dig and
they were like oh it's a step oh it's another step oh it's another step then they found a huge Amphitheater just like you were saying crazy that was
like the first thing that they found um so it's 1760s and who's in charge of Italy
the French and who's in charge of France Napoleon Napoleon so Napoleon like all
rulers wants to be an emperor you know he's like I want to be an emperor I identify with Roman emperors like
you I'm sure you do so do I whatever short man complex I identify with rich people made me Rich but
um his sister Caroline Bonaparte was the queen of Naples which is hilarious um and she was put in charge of of
excavations so Caroline Bonaparte had people go and dig up the outside of
Pompeii so they dug up the outer wall so they could see what they were working with which is pretty cool okay
so the outer wall of the amphitheater no of the entire city oh so they they like
found the outer wall and started digging all the way around and so they like wanted to kind of start mapping out exactly what Pompeii was so she did that
eventually Italy took it back and started to do or like whatever that means I don't know sorry Italian
historians but um you know it's Italy again and the it started Excavating
Excavating there's some breaks but they found some incredible homes some huge Villas they can see Courtyards and
different rooms and where people like went to the bathroom and slept and cooked and things like that and the
thing that is so cool is that they're all painted and Mosaic and that's what you don't see anywhere else because it was saved it was like
in a time capsule underneath all this ash the paints are bright red and bright
yellow and the mosaics are brightly colored so you can tell that like it wasn't just like marble you know it's
like a really bright City obviously there's like the paintings of like people having sex and things that people
get super super excited about because like it was like a Roman time there's debauchery it's super fun
um they find a gladiator Barracks that's actually two stories and has intact Gladiator helmets so we know exactly
what they wore and exactly what you know what their life was like from that they find bakeries and restaurants with bread
Gladiator Barracks
still in the ovens you know like they can like really dig in and like find all this stuff and it is in color
um for the first time pretty much a Super Bowl the Frescas are
oddly like preserved like it does look um and they're nowhere else there's no I
mean there's probably more buried somewhere but like you don't see that in Rome in other cities because of time
well it's weird because you would assume that the Heat and the ash were destroyed the paint but I guess not it didn't it
just like kept it in a lot of cases so it's really really beautiful you can really you can see what people wore you
can see like there's children there's people just like living their lives a lot of like daily life scenes that are painted they excavated like the whole
thing like I mean the whole city is there now I
think there's a little bit left but yeah most of it well they're still finding stuff which I'll tell you about one second
um but they kept finding holes of like pockets of air and in the pockets of air
The Skeletons
there were skeletons so they kept fighting skeletons and these pockets of air and in 1863
um a man named Giuseppe fiorelli took charge of excavations and he decided
that those to put plaster in those holes and see what was in there and he found
that they were like a perfect cast of the bodies and that's what you've seen from Pompeii the people's Chinese is
because the ash cooled around them so quickly their body is decomposed in that
space so they're if you went to that space their bones are around the shape of it is the shape of the person it's
like a sarcophagus so that's what it looks like yeah so it's just like it's like actually like exactly the way their
bodies were you can see the fear of their faces you know you can see children you can see dogs they had
it because Rome and Romans had dogs like on leashes they had like pets so you would like to see them too one of the pictures I saw was um
a guy with teeth well you know what is that his actual teeth but it's like the preservation of
The Teeth
the teeth oh okay okay you know what I mean it's like if someone like if you make a mold or something like you
would put something in plaster you know whatever it's exactly like a mold of the humans and that's what they're finding so you can really see like people are
running for their lives you know they were scared they're like holding each other and there's there's places where
they find like a bunch of people together and you're like do they know each other like we'll never know it was at a family was it you know people who
are running together and found each other and tried to find safety somewhere like whatever but people cuddle together because like they're gonna die they
still do that today they're still finding finding these Pockets with bodies um they use resin now instead of plaster
because it's more durable and they can keep the bones but they're still doing that and that was in 1863. so then fast forward to the 1930s
and Mussolini is now in charge of Italy and he really wants to go back in and
start doing that like we're ancient Romans let's do a lot more Excavating so he goes but they go back in kind of
brings it up again um he finds the gene not he but like they find a gymnasium um that has these awesome mosaics of
The Gym
people like working out they have people swimming people like doing like stretches and just like you know it was
like a gym where people worked out it's like such a normal City yeah you know yeah
um so um during World War II the excavation stopped because there's other to do
um in 1943 Pompeii was bombed by the British Americans and Canadians um they said like oh it was an accident
we didn't mean to like you of course you did whatever um so some of it was destroyed by World War II bombs but luckily not everything
but there's a house called like the house of the Fallen where you can see a shell from a from a bomb from a World
War II um because we did that then um so that brings us to now
um in the beginning the excavation was like very haphazard because it was 300 years ago so they were just like push
things over and like try to dig with like whatever um now it's a lot more ridiculous obviously
um and like we said about the bright colors and things like that
Pompeii Exposed to Elements
like now Pompeii is actually exposed to the elements now it's starting to get destroyed uh that's the downside the
Earth yeah so we can see it but now it's now it's out there so now that it's out here like you know just like regular
elements rain and wind and things are starting to fade you can also like really go there like I I remember I
touched a wall I touched Fresco because I was like and I was like walking on mosaics you know you could really walk
in it I think they maybe have pulled that back a little bit because that was 20 years ago um I read a story a while ago I don't
know where I read it but like some person was like they took a rock home from Pompeii and then they were like cursed forever you know it's like don't
steal from Pompeii but I'm sure there's like a gift shop um but they're still finding stuff so in
2020 they found a fast food place so it's a restaurant like they found like a
building with a restaurant and it has this like low counter and in the counter there are holes with pots in them and in
Painting of a Chicken
front of each pot is the painting of like a chicken or a fish or a lamb so
you could like go there and be like I'll have the chicken and they would like put it in like a bowl you could take it with you that's pretty cool which is super
cool or you could like sit in there and like eat and drink so there's like restaurants people like really living um and in 2021 they found a chariot and
a mummified freed slave so they found like some more things so they're still finding things
um and it's so cool because I mean hopefully it it lasts you know longer
but the fact that we have this time capsule um about this ancient Roman city because of this awful tragedy we can see what
they ate and drank and did for fun we can see who was there we can learn so much about the entire Roman Roman Empire
um so I also wanted to announce that I'm quitting my job and moving to Pompeii to work there congratulations wow the big review
that's the bigger feel I'm very excited um I have not been offered a job but I think I'm gonna shop with like a
paintbrush and like um some hope and be like hey guys what could it what can I do for you I really
Thoughts on Pompeii
want to just live here and figure out what happened because it's so cool until it explodes again because four
million people live in the area now so looking at pictures of Pompeii I
would say that the interesting part about it like mentally is that it looks
like any like Old City because they dug it all up but the part you have to keep
remembering is like it's like 2 000 years old like it shouldn't look the way
it looks which is like the interesting part because you know it looked looks like a part of Lisbon or anywhere
else that's been around for a very very long time but you gotta remember that like it shouldn't look this good
basically yeah exactly it shouldn't look that good and it looks great and then you also have to like use your
imagination for that second layer like imagine the Second Story imagine fabric imagine wood imagine animals
imagine people like bring it to life a little bit which I think that's why I like the movie because it kind of brings a little bit to life even though it's
Why I like the movie
silly um but it looks silly I looked at the screen graphs of it it looks it looks
really good Hulu you can watch it yeah yeah um but it's cool I think you should
go all right well that can be next on the agenda
cool wow yeah these prices are really really cool isn't it cool
yeah no kidding yeah when you picture it when you picture a Pompeii like it's
just like a lot of like just dead gray darkness and then yeah it's actually really really beautiful and that's like
the inside of someone's house so like you're if you're like a rich person in Pompeii like the inside of your house would be covered with like bright red
like trim and frescoes of people like having fun you know of like you and your family's accomplishments and so all
right so if you had to choose how you going giant earthquake or giant volcano
I feel like
Giant earthquake or volcano
this is like the longest pause ever the volcano will be very quick maybe very scary but the and the earthquake I don't
I hate I hate the idea of being stuck in a fallen building even collapse
in Miami like a couple like last year or whatever and people they didn't find any survivors that people could have
technically been there for like a week yeah and they just died that is awful so maybe if it's quicker yeah
okay this is a two-part question so volcano or ill-constructed marine
Vessel to the bottom of the ocean to see the Titanic oh my God volcano
I don't know why it's like I feel safer where there's air even though I know the air is about to kill me the fact that
there is no air in that thing I think that's I don't like that what do you think
I think if you were to just drug me blindfold me
Titanic submersible
tie me down and then put me in the Titanic submersible I'd probably pick
that because when it happens you don't even know what happened well you can't be drugged and tied down you have to
like be like what's happening I don't know are we going up I don't know if I'm paying that much
money I think I can just choose I choose how how it happens for free
um it's your point actually yeah from an economic Financial perspective that would be the most reason I mean that
Ramsay character he would he would definitely recommend that whoever his name is yeah yeah so crazy day crazy
thing to have in there it was super cool for us that we get to see that history it's fascinating it's like you
know everything else we know from like bits of bits of pottery and this is like a whole thing you can really like see stories and stuff so it's cool
there's one I didn't say I forgot to mention there's like a house that they know was um owned by a woman who lived alone
named Julia and she would rent out parts of her house so she was like the first
First Airbnb entrepreneur
Airbnb entrepreneur yeah exactly a little Airbnb in Pompeii and it would have been really nice
do we know how they know she rented out that house yes on the side of her house is carved an advertisement that says
rooms for rent is that cool I know it's so cool I might
go to Pompeii you might have convinced me I think we should go together um yeah I definitely want to go that
sounds great um sweet well Taylor thank you for sharing your story
um I will say that I just pulled up the recent article about Hillary and it says take this seriously okay everybody seems
to be uh taking it seriously so please getting a little darker I'm in the window
um yeah it's happening mom if you ever if you and you the kids in one need a place to flee too you got
a place here so thank you um I'll I will keep you posted yeah good luck tomorrow unless I'm stuck there with you I know
RIP Nathan
for real you're gonna be living at the airport for the next a couple days yeah I'm used to that
um well thank you cool um I have one announcement
um I found out that my friend died today um so I just want to tell a little story um my friend boy from high school was
Nathan but they called him boy um which was cute he was so cute he was so 90s cute I had the biggest freaking
crush on him um and his his house was like the fun house and his
sister Neva she I was talking with her today a little bit how how sad I am and
um but you could just like do whatever the you wanted to their house and it was like so fun you would always just like have big parties and their parents didn't care and I remember one party I
was like super young I was like 15 or 16 and I was like trying to sleep it off because I like drank a ton and I was
crying because I thought all my friends were prettier than me and I remember I was laying in like I don't know what the
I was looking like a mattress on the floor and I can I can like picture the hot tears I like remember the higher
Nathans Funeral
tiers and boy came in the room and he was like are you okay and I was like all my friends are prettier than me and he
was like no and he it was nothing nefarious like nothing happened but he he like gave me a really big hug and I
remember feeling the hot tears and feeling this like Curly curly hair like all over my face
um because he was wearing this like huge blonde wig because he was like balls there's like huge blonde curly wig and
like comforting me but I was like super confused because I was like drunk and sad and it was just like this hair and um he was just he was just a very very
nice guy and he left behind a wife and a young daughter so really sad but I have
nothing but but good memories of hanging out with him so I just wanted to share that he passed away today
only cost me like this week no you but you found out yeah wow that sucks
it doesn't isn't it weird like it's like you got we're at that age now we're like this starts picking up speed
it's kind of wild yeah how's that sorry Taylor thank you I also wanted to
LinkedIn and Facebook
make a a plea to the LinkedIn and Facebook community that like if someone dies please don't put them on my list of
people that I have to add to my podcast like on LinkedIn because I've definitely invited several dead people to like our
podcast because otherwise they're just gonna be the top of my list forever you know wait you why are you adding dead
people to our podcast what because on LinkedIn I get so we have our pocket our page on LinkedIn for our podcast you can
follow it everyone um but I'm inviting people but I can only invite 250 people a month so every
month at the beginning of the month I invite 250 people of like of my friends on LinkedIn or whatever but at the top
of the list it's in like I don't know what order it's in by the very top of the list if you don't invite someone they're gonna stay at the top of the
list so I had like gym at the top of my list for like two months and then I was like I don't want to keep seeing Jim's
face every month I'm trying to invite people like it just makes me sad so I just invited him so he's off the list uh oh you know what I mean I'm saying I
Remembering friends on Facebook
see what you're saying yeah yeah yeah but it's real sad
but there'll be more of that as we get older I I just I you just reminded me of
um who was that
I don't know it's like high school friends are like some somebody that passed in their um
their Facebook just stayed kind of stagnant forever but it wasn't marked as a memorial site and so the reminders
keep coming up about their birthday yeah because if it's if you I don't know how it works but if you don't like tell
Facebook that that person's dead they'll just like protect I mean it just does a normal Facebook thing right and so you
gotta tell them and then he stops pushing these anyways it was just my friend Stephanie's birthday she passed away last year and I got them think
invite and I think a couple people posted like happy birthday I don't know that they knew because they wouldn't doesn't say anything that she that she's
passed so I mean I wrote like I miss you but I mean yeah it's crazy yeah yeah wow okay well bummer bummer
Outro
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ever miss an episode and tell your friends um oh thank you to my friend Christine who told a really fun story about an
earthquake um on Instagram I reposted it but she um was telling the story The Volcano
episode reminded her of when she was in the that 1994 earthquake in California Northridge and she was she's so cute she
was like she she was a kid and she had like built a fort and she was like in her fort and then it started happening and she was like before just crashing
down around me it was so cute so she's like I'm super traumatized by everything but it was sweet thank you for sharing
that was very cute um cool sweet well thanks everyone thanks Taylor everyone have a great rest
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