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Ep 49: Consensual homicide: The true story of cannibal Armin Meiwes

Episode Summary

We're kicking things off with a glass of Chianti and the story of German cannibal Armin Meiwes - you can find anything on the internet these days - and even in the early days, you could find someone to eat and/or find someone to eat you. There's a lot of weird stuff out there, we're glad you're here with us and not being eaten by a software engineer. Image via the NY Sun & AI Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod   Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod  Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com

Episode Notes

We're kicking things off with a glass of Chianti and the story of German cannibal Armin Meiwes - you can find anything on the internet these days - and even in the early days, you could find someone to eat and/or find someone to eat you. There's a lot of weird stuff out there, we're glad you're here with us and not being eaten by a software engineer.

 

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Episode Transcription

Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor

 

shower one of

my best friends is having a baby um and I have to while you're talking I have to finish this baby blanket I'm so

close to finishing it but look I haven't seen that for you no it's like it's like a cute little

Rainbow pattern and then I'm just doing those edging on it and um anyway oh I have so much so little left

to do oh my God I have like four inches left to do so how long would that take and I'm ready

I mean this took me like months because it doesn't take you like you know just do it you know in uh in like one sitting

and it's hard to tell but I've had people be like how much did you charge for those and I'm like I don't know a thousand dollars like it's it's like it

takes so much time and then I saw these things on Instagram I was like definitely targeted for these tags that

you can buy to put on stuff that says like this took forever I'm never making you anything again it's really fun which

are funny but um let's try to get a baby blanket in whenever someone has a baby so that's

what I'm working on so if you're having a baby and you need a baby blanket tell Taylor like right when

you know I mean or just don't tell her and then just buy

it just buy it separately buy one at Target but oh it's special so

I'd like to make them for people yep um cool well we'll go ahead and kick it off with the intro welcome to Doom to

fail the podcast recover two stories one true prime one history around things that were doomed to fail not just

relationships but also situations I'm part of this one by Taylor Who's on her way to San Diego shortly there after

this again the most dread setting podcasters in America

I know we saw each other so recently we saw each other

yeah yeah it was a week ago that I was off to Seattle then Taylor went back to Palm Springs and or Joshua Tree I

confused too blue to Palm Springs there you go there you go um Taylor who's up first today

I think it's you I'm up first today okay yeah and then let's cover your drinks

today first have you ever been to Chicago

and have you ever been to a uh have you ever been to a Portillo's

I don't know what that is so it's like a delicious Chicago restaurant where they have like Chicago

hot dogs you know which is like no ketchup a pickle this has the um

poppy seed bun uh they look super good and then it has like these really great french fries and it has like Italian

beefs which is like we always have in Chicago um last time I was out of Portillo's we got out and I went into the car and I

got stung by a bee in the car do you remember that it was like last year at my cousin's wedding at Lindsay's wedding

um are you saying a Portillo or Portillo as in like a proper noun

it's a proper noun Portillo's so it's a it's a restaurant called Portillo's Mr Portillo yeah got it okay

okay anyway Portillo's has a thing that is 850 calories for a small one but it's a

cake shake I was just talking about this at work with people but it's a piece of chocolate cake heavy cream and ice cream and it's a

cake shake and it is uh delicious that's where you're gonna have that's what I'm drinking

hypothetically this looks amazing

yes we actually put a slice of chocolate cake into our Blended milkshake

wow that is awesome yeah I mean like of course it's

not good for you but it looks great this is not an everyday treat this is a once

you know yeah God do you remember all that stuff that they made us that made us read that

we've read about um oh gosh what was that thing where you're like replacing something with another

thing for like product Theory it was like it was like a kale or a

milkshake was the thing what's that called do you remember that we had book ready to read we read when we were the product together for no reason for like

a year oh I never did any of that stuff I didn't watch the movie they made us told us to watch remember that the the

community I didn't do any of that no I didn't either but um I was on

maternity during that kill or milkshake God even they're they're hot dogs

so good they're delicious it's delicious oh well the whole point of this is

um there there is this like whole story about how people were drinking shakes

from McDonald's for breakfast because they needed something to like drink and that's why they invented like Frappuccinos anyway keep going

um we'll we'll get to the bottom of this so my well where's my notes I don't even know where my notes are so okay

I'll go into my section now that we know what Portillo's is um because at first I thought you were

saying a Portillo and I was like is that like the is that like a word that's like kind of like a

bodega is in New York that's that's why it's confused so okay anyways that's fair

um miles is currently very confused about Harry Potter houses because it's a Harry Potter party and he's like what's

Hufflepuff I'm like whoa anyway I saw that picture that was a really cute picture

it's really cute is the product thing okay jobs

no no no I I know job speed done I didn't know yeah now yeah I get where you come from

um okay so my drink is going to be a classic Chianti even though it's 10 o'clock in the morning here in Texas

um why if why would you think I'm gonna drink glass of Chianti why that specific

dream because you know me I don't know anything about wine well I would say

they're talking about Hannibal Lecter because that's why I think about immediately when I think about Chianti

do you remember that part yeah eats delivered with fava beans in a glass of Chianti I even wrote that down

yes that is exactly why I'm talking about Chianti or having kids am I right yes you're absolutely right so here's

what I wrote because I'm covering people that are not dissimilar to the best movie villain of

all time and I'm elector and I referred to I'm gonna eat his liver with some

fava beans and a nice Canty you've totally nailed it

awesome um Okay so I'm covering two

crimes because they're short they're really short I don't know why their social reviews they're so fascinating

and it's like you'd have to pull like international criminal records on one of them to

actually know what all the details were and I'm just not going to do that um but so it I'm gonna say that this is

more like a phenomenon than like an individual True Crime Story and the phenomenon I'll hone in on is

called Consensual homicide you've I'm sure you you get you grasped like concept is right

sure like you're like you can kill me it's cool yes yeah basically that basically that and like there's actually

a humane way of this happening which is like the Dr Kevorkian version of that if

you recall him from the 1990s where he would do it like a dog that was such a big deal

it's like it's like now like it's legal in Oregon like you know you can just go somewhere you can go to Sweden and do it

like it's I forgot how worked up we were about that

I still know how I feel about it is it because I think that if like if

I think that if you're like terminal right like you know obviously someone

that's been in that position and if the if you're like this is just drag it on and it's too painful and I

don't want this anymore then then yeah sure but like if you just have like suicidal

ideations or like have depression I don't know I don't think that you should be allowed to just like kill yourself because I mean that [ __ ] can pass you

know well I mean I think it's better to do it under Medical Care than to do it like at

your house well I know but I'm saying I'd rather than just not be on the table at all

well of course well of course we'd rather not do it but um yeah I don't know I haven't thought about it in a long time so I'm not

prepared to say how I feel about it no there you go so there was a Doctor

Kevorkian version of conceptual homicide and then there's obviously the horrific disgusting

gross version of it which is what I'm going to cover today in in two stories so what is going to be like something

people have already heard before I'm positive if this is the first time you're hearing this story I'll be shocked um the other one I doubt you've

heard it like so I'm going obscure and totally common so

the first one is the story of Armin Muse which you know Taylor come on

it's a German guy yes I'm always laughing because did you ever

watch The IT Crowd I've never watched that oh my God it's so good it's on it's I

think it's on Netflix it's two seasons or three whatever it's fantastic but there's one called moss and the German

like one of the guy's name is moss and he decides to like get um

and it's time to go out and get more social so he goes to take a German cooking class but it's like not a German cooking class and they're like why would

you think anyone would ever go to a German cooking class those are really funny that's a really good promise actually

um it's very funny she reminds me Taylor the Girl I'm dating now she does she she

does what you do like every every day she's like have you ever seen so so I'm

like the answer is always no if the question isn't my first I'm not asking you I'm an artist

because they're going to be like oh I totally was thinking that too Taylor I'm on your your age it's rhetorical for you

I'd do that I know I know better than to be like have you read this we talked about that already so I don't ask you that anymore

the jury stood if I didn't even read so I'm gonna move on that front

um okay so getting back to our old front Armand so Armin lived in worcesterfield

Germany and I looked up was to feel Germany and it looks like the landscape from The Sound of Music and I remember

just like it was so pretty it was so pretty like look at this town here I'll I'll slack into you because like

spelling was to feel this kind of like a nightmare um well I do kind of um speak a little

bit of German so no big deal oh okay yeah I'm sure that's wrong um wait how do you spell it it's

w-u-s-t-e-f-e-l-d [Music]

got it um sure it's beautiful I mean this part of Germany is so freaking pretty

um I have been to the Sound of Music place we went on The Sound of Music Tour in Salzburg Austria but it's the same area this is gorgeous isn't it you know

it got me thinking of like why is it that like like how could you be a

psychopath and live there because it's so I mean I guess it's a medical

condition I mean also all the Germany became psychopaths in some way [ __ ] reforms they don't have a great tracker report

but what I did look up was the was where in the U.S has the highest per

capita rate of serial killers to population ratio Wisconsin

no question uh uh Colorado

Alaska yeah but like arguably it's like the

prettiest state in the Union right like it's like it's like Alaska Pacific Northwest and then you have like the

Northeast area like you know I mean I'm being subjective about it but like it's weird it's like no it's like these

places have these crazy people um so anyways that's where Ormond is from

uh he he had kind of like a weirder Kink than

most people have which was he really wanted to consume oh I should have mentioned he's a software engineer

because of tortillas no offense software Engineers the way you are God made you that way

rarely into software engineer territory you don't need to be social all good we understand so anyway okay I have I have

thoughts than that I'll talk about later but um what year is this this would have been 2001.

okay continue so orange Kink was he really wanted to

like basically consume another human being like this was his Spanish like that was you know

that's what God got his engine going um and he wasn't but he wasn't like he

wasn't like some sort of like a rabid doctor like he was like a Ted Bundy type he wanted somebody to

volunteer to do this had this done to them so there's a distinction between him and like and crazy serial killer and

that he was like trying to do this in the most humane way quote unquote possible so he goes to this now defunct

website called the cannibal Cafe which I looked it up and all you can find is

like still shots of the page and it is so gross looking it is like it is all like flesh colored like backgrounds is

so gross it's disgusting is it wait is it like is it four cannibals or is it like pretending yeah yeah it's well

it's the internet right so it's gonna be both it's gonna be some pretending some legit and apparently this guy was legit

and she won this forum and he put post a website or posts a request looking for

Willing victims to be cannibalized and what he asked for was a well-built 18 to

25 year old man willing to be basically slaughtered so he had a very very

defined narrow seven-year window that he was shooting for and this post was kind of popular and

given the self-selected nature of who's attending and reading in the Campbell Cafe that kind of makes sense I'm ended

up getting a ton of interest in this but realistically they all everyone but one guy was like oh I I was like I thought

we were having fun and now this is turning into like a location meet up and I don't want that so yeah that guy's not

kidding yeah yeah it was it was like oh we're all gonna have a good time right it's all gonna be fun and all of a sudden one guy like just starts like

putting on like you know the the Dexter uniform and you're like oh he's being serious

this guy's covering you with seasoning it was like it was that last podcast

joke with like Jeffrey Dahmer like a cooking show where he like what do you say Henry was like he goes he like sucks

on your pinky and then tries a glass of wine to see what pairs best

yeah um one guy named Bird Jurgen Armando

Brandis which I'm gonna refer to as Armando it's the easiest way to refer to him he was a he was also an engineer and

43 years old so he was definitely not within the category of 18 to 25 but he was interested in what armor was or

Armin was putting out there so he replied to the Post in March of 2001 and

less than a week later he shows up at his house and so this is March 9th the

two basically come to an agreement on what is it that they're doing this is the most dramatic thing ever it's like

horrific nightmarish but it's also on the up and up right like this

it just encouraged me that this is kind of like Auschwitz right like it is it's like there's paperwork for like yes

we're gonna kill this person it is weird

a smidge more consensual than us but yes a smidge more I don't know is it

is this guy yes no one wants me in Auschwitz I know but yeah I know but can can it even be

this guy had to be insane right like it can't be consensual if it's if the person's insane right

it's way more consensual to answer an ad about being eaten than it is to be put on a train with childhoods okay we can't

agree to that we can agree to that okay great there's layers to it but yes I'll

look I'll concede that much to you so all right thank you

on March 9th again I'm getting canceled for this episode first okay guys we

can't get canceled okay you canceled so part of the terms that they agreed to on

March 9th is that everything had to be recorded so that it was clear to anybody who learned later on that Armando was

doing the spelling lame so after all the consent protocols were taken

this is all recorded by the way so there's a camcorder running the entire time because everything had to be like

on the up and up so so like during this time period Armando takes 20 sleeping

pills and he drinks a bottle of Nyquil and then they kind of get started the first thing that they agreed to do was

they agreed that Armin would cut off Armando's penis and they could eat it together

I mean yeah he's not he's not doing great probably let's just

okay see that that's my point before you cancel me at least get to this part of the podcast before you see

this guy was mentally well enough to consent to something like this so they try to eat a rod they couldn't

it was way too chewy so Armin did the rational thing and sauteed it with some

garlic and salt pepper and wine it actually sounds like a pretty good way to prepare it I think right

yeah have you put Garlic on anything in it it taste better see it didn't work out because it kind

of overdid it and he had to feed it to the dogs and they couldn't eat it themselves oh no you only get one chance

of that yeah

because what he really should have done was he should have probably like cut it up a little bit and then made like a

broth out of it yeah meat

right yeah we're going to we're going to enjoy the weeds here so anyways by this point

Armando was not doing well and he was kind of in and out of consciousness Armand drew a bath and sat in in the

bath and he started reading a Star Trek book of all things because again these are Engineers we're talking about and he

would get up every 15 to 20 minutes and go check on Armando in the bathroom eventually it was obvious that Armando

was like just bleeding out like you're just gonna die anyway so um and he also he also took 20 sleeping

pills so ABS him in the neck and then he hangs him his body on meat hooks what's

interesting Taylor is that again all this was recorded but the recording is private like cops don't release the

recording because it's way too disgusting but there were three or four screen grabs

that were actually captured and published online and I found them and

think of the worst scene in terrifier part one and it was basically that

that basically it was actually legitimate within matter of fact that yeah so when I say he was meat hooks is

not the right way to articulate it his legs were hung separately from chains

from the roof and like partition like and he was like split in half like

terrifier dead to that girl yeah you remember this scene yeah okay I think so

so that's what he did and then and there's a few other whatever if you want to look it up looking up but it's pretty

gross so over the next 10 months Armin ate Armando's body having dismembered

and stored it um in his freezer apparently it was somewhere around 44 pounds of meat that he ended up consuming over this time I was thinking

about this I was like it would be kind of fun thinking like I'm the only person who can decide I'm gonna try to a suvi

version today versus like I'm gonna smoke it today you know like he he had the opportunity to be really creative

with it that's the problem with like no good oh

I was gonna say that's the problem with like eating someone on like a boat because you're trapped at Seas you don't

get to cook it that is the problem that is the biggest problem I agree with you yeah

um I cut my video because I realized we're gonna have like it's gonna be like um but one yeah yeah so uh shoot out of

thought here because he ate a camera where I was going with that oh you yeah but you guys cook it let's see yeah no

so one thing that I found interesting was like there's very very little details about Armando like very little

details like this guy apparently nobody liked him or like he

had no family because like nobody went looking for this guy it was really weird like it was just like he just disappeared oh that's true that's a good

question they just saw it up in some guy's basement and stored in his freezer and like nobody gave a [ __ ] nobody

decided to look him up but again like think about like the guy's been like wanting to get eaten by somebody like

he's probably not gonna have like a normal friend group to rely on so

when I fast forward to December of 2002 so we are at eight months

no that's not right it's 20 months after the initial murder

so 20 months later Armin goes back on the cannibal Cafe website in posts and

he's looking for someone to kill a need in this advertisement he basically eludes the fact that he's done it before

so like trust me this is gonna be this can be great you're gonna love it totally I learned from my mistakes yeah

exactly and this one actually creeped enough people out to have them go to the authorities and report this post they

seem like weirdly detailed basically I couldn't find the actual post but like the first one didn't Drew any attention

so the idea was that this one had all the details that would make you freak out police ended up going over to

armin's house to finding Armando in the videotape recording his murder in dismemberment

Armin was diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder

um but he was deemed well enough to stand trial so on January 30th 2004 he

was initially convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to eight and a half years of prison time because it's kind of manslaughter like the guy

was recorded saying yep I'll do it I want to do it I'm Lucid I'm not tied up

I'm not you know so you're still not allowed to do that

I guess like yeah you're you probably shouldn't be allowed to do that and I guess you're not allowed to do that so

the courts realize this as well later on because the prosecution appealed this conviction and the sentence and we're

like this is crazy this guy we have a video of him sawing someone in half like like this is yeah he should not be

getting out in less than a decade and so an appellate court decided that this is

true this is accurate that maybe this was a um basically it all turned on whether it

was consensual and that was the result was that you can't consent to something

like that because like my earlier Point you're probably not mentally well if you're consenting to it so like

you shouldn't be allowed to essentially and so it was overturned he was

convicted in this time of murder not manslaughter and he was sentenced to life imprisonment what's interesting Germany's like so chill about stuff like

he gets like furloughs he gets to like go out on the town he gets to wear disguise they just like go out on the

town during the days and like hang out it's so weird like I have a mustache on and be like

hello you smell this today I know oh God yeah it's like that that

your pretty face is going to Hell episode with a cannibal Wade like has like someone's arm just like in his back pocket and he's just walking around with

it bleeding everywhere but um but that's that's the first story

that's the first story is armamus and his whole tale there this one the next one wait do you have any thoughts on

that Taylor no I mean I I'm torn on the consent thing because I'm like I don't know he

wanted to do it but also like what what's the alternative to like who was going to find

um help him no one he didn't have a family

nobody cared nobody cared how did they find him they found him because Armin posted

again about getting a new victim oh because he posted it again but no one ever said like I missed this

guy no I mean complete strangers were like yeah let's go find this guy um yeah not great it's not great for

Armin no not great well Armando so the next story happened in 1986 it is a story of Sharon lopatka

have you heard of this one I don't know I don't think so okay

this one it's actually really similar it's like

so I'll just do I'll do like a bit of the highlights because again it comes back to like the conceptual part of this so Sharon was born in Baltimore Maryland

in 1961 so by the time that this ends up happening she's 75 years old which is like as far as I understand kind of like

an inflection point with some women who have kids and stuff like things are either going greater than not and she

was uh she was married she had several kids she started her own business she was like a Serial entrepreneur she'd

start businesses they would do well they would flourish then it would go broke and then she would go under uh she

started a type of business which was kind of like the V1 of only fans in like

1995-ish and this was also form driven so this was

websites I'm not gonna name because they're it just I don't want my my parents from

the other room I don't want them to hear me say these words but but they're they're like they're finished websites

essentially and she would go post on these websites pictures of herself nude or pictures of like sell her used

underwear and like it is literally only fans from like 1995

this is interesting because this case later on will be the very first time email evidence was used to at a trial at

a criminal trial so that's cool how early we're talking about here so anyways yeah she started

doing this in 1905 again she's married she has kids at this point but she's like going through whatever she's going through it whatever is happening in her

life she ends up talking to a guy named Robert Frederick Glass on in one of these forums and

they start kind of developing an internet relationship no offense but Robert was also an

engineer a software engineer um and it's just dude come on you know

what's funny Taylor I just saw that you sent me that picture of Stonewall Jackson and talked about how like he was

like a sexy vampire look and I was like thinking about that whatever

um um no I was um I read a book it says I'm sorry but to digress this called

brotopia about like Silicon Valley and how like men are you know whatever

they're doing there but there's like a one of the first software Engineers that was his personality and so everybody

else felt uncomfortable being around him so then those people just like swarmed to it there's nothing like about their like cognitive ability that makes like

weird you know anti-social dudes Engineers it's just that they are the ones that felt comfortable in those

classes because they all were weird you know on each other

so it was it was it wasn't

so there was actually a lot more social hierarchy involved in the decision making than you would assume basically

yes and it's not like they're not like built for that they just happen to everyone else is doing it looks just

like them how do you explain the two stories I'm going to cover have to do with Engineers

eating people because they became Engineers because they were weird got it doesn't make you

weird got it okay the latter I agree with

so yes we're on the same page so go imagine Robert okay so he's an

engineer he's in North Carolina and he is also on these internet forums and just like super into like

death and dying and eating people and fetishes and all that stuff him and Sharon start kind

of developing this relationship and they eventually decided they want to meet up in person so on October of 1996 Sharon

travels to North Carolina to meet Robert she left a note with her husband she was

the craziest [ __ ] ever she left a note saying um I'm leaving

I don't want you to investigate what I've been up to like legit that's how

she argument like she was basically I'm about to do something crazy and I don't want you to look into what I'm about to

do leave it alone and her husband immediately reported to the police and so the police start digging into her

Communications on the internet with this guy Robert and they find six weeks of communications with each other that are

basically articulating that they want to meet up so that he can kill her and eat her body basically that was the entire

substance of the communications so and this is the crazy part too is like whenever they met up

wherever she flew into they had Robert had to pick her up and drive her 80 miles what was that drive like like

how's it going like what are you talking about what is what is the small talk like when you're

like you see each other because like how good could the pictures have been anyways really you probably see each other for

the first time it's like really the first time you're getting a good look at each other and you have 80 miles to think about what you're about to do

so they hung out they basically they had a

sexual relationship together for a couple of days and then eventually they decided that Robert was gonna strangle

Sharon to death which he does he kills her and then he dismembers her body and buries her in his backyard it is kind of

up in the air whether or not he ate portable or not DVD we don't totally know that but he was arrested for the

Raptor because again the police the husband reported this immediately to the cops and the cops were digging through

her emails and found all those Communications but back then there was no real concept of Ip tracing there

weren't like the concept of issues right is the esps to understand where the IPS originally all this is like brand new so

this was not like yes the husband immediately reported but this took a long time to get to the bottom of like who is this guy and so finally the

police get to the bottom of it they find who it is they go to go to his house he's arrested he's ultimately convicted

this is incredible he's convicted again to eight and a half years for

murdering this membrane probably eating and throwing the corpse of one into his

backyard he's free right now he was released in 2006 but that's fine

well I think it's [ __ ] up if he didn't eat her isn't that what she is that what she wanted or no that is what she wanted

yeah got it so hold on so that's the part that's [ __ ] up not the fact that he's

out and running about right now he killed someone in his trailer he spent 80 miles on a car with her several days

hanging out and talking getting to know each other and then he should feel better than just like picking someone off the street

it doesn't work yeah yeah so you keep pigeonholeing me with these hypotheticals yes you're right it is I'm

putting hypotheticals into it the important questions that's right you're at you I don't think

it's I don't think anyone's having the best time yeah I don't think anybody's having the best time either yeah it it is

interesting we're sharing the gradual toll of like she was doing like normal entrepreneurial stuff like I'm a

motivational speaker and I'm this man and then all of a sudden it's like do you want to buy my used underwear it's like it's like a weird like that's a

story of the internet yeah eventually we will only be interested in

buying each other's undergarments that is true yes exactly exactly selling feet

picks that's it yeah so that was one of the ones I didn't say was like that was one of the sites that she was active on

oh sure I'm sure yeah of course of course so yeah that was my story conceptual homicide there's actually a

pretty long list so these one of the grosser ones was this guy in Japan who was he's now considered a serial killer

but at the time it was conceptual homicide where he told people he was going to kill them using carbon monoxide poisoning so it

would be like a painless death and then when they showed up at his place he'd like throw a bag over their face and like strangle them to death so it was

yeah that takes away the consensual part okay yeah exactly exactly so anyways

Armin like at least he like he wrote everything down he was weirdly German about it he was so

German about it yeah the Americans got a lot better than

he did the American actually served only eight and a half years so Kudos it sounds like everyone was just

like grossed out and scared and Afraid of the internet yeah they should have been it sounds like

um it's true I guess the doomeda-filled part of this is like if a software engineer tells you that he has a

cannibalism fantasy take him seriously he's weird enough to do it that's true definitely call the police

don't go just don't go ever go to his apartment no no no no no no no yes

um bring a bottle of luminol when you go to his apartment just in case hey what's luminol

the thing that you spray and then it makes wherever blood used to be glow in a black light

why did you know that very very popular thing like let me not

popular but like in like the 90s you did all the time on like 2020 you know they would like go to a room where someone

had been murdered and you can't see any blood but you spray luminol and then turn on a black light and it's like bloody handprints on the walls and like

blood on the ceiling so you can like see what people have done okay all right well there you go lesson learned

um so that's my story today Taylor um hopefully people uh learn something

new about the internet it's gross that's gross but yeah I'm sure people

are still doing it like right now yeah yeah I wanted to like tour I'm sure if you like got tore you could probably

go to some equivalent of the cannibal Cafe and find someone to eat there

yeah world hunger actually if we could just like start eating each other

that happens in like every single apocalyptic thing but that sounds like that's where we're headed anyway it

would also probably just be good for the environment right because you wouldn't well then all

them people would be on farms to eat that would happen quite quickly who do you think would end up on the

farms to eat Americans would they look more like me

or more like you you think more like you do someone just told me they think that I

would taste really gamey like stringy and gaming

I hope I never ever find it out but if I am Sovereign to death on a boat with you I will eat you Raw

oh god well there we go so this is the you've heard you're

Taylor's confessions here um sweet that was my story I had a girl like you yeah you should draw me

awesome thank you farz um super um super gross per huge it was super fun

um yeah I have a little bit of listener mail Kiara um our friend sent a suggestion I think

it's more for you but do you ever see the um or hear about action park or is that documentary about it yeah yeah it

did that that I did see that that could be a fun one to to talk

about later because it's so crazy yeah yeah cool um yeah and everyone follow us at

Doom defelpod everywhere that you listen to podcasts oh also I was on Tick Tock and there's this new

trend on Tick Tock about how men always think about the Roman Empire so I'm trying to get into it by posting about a

Roman Empire stories I'll let you know more yeah I saw that I saw you republished a bunch more old ones

yeah nice sweet well we'll go ahead and cut this

off and again if you have any feedback please write to us at Doom the Philpot gmail.com we're always looking for

feedback any suggestions thoughts whatever it is um it is always welcome so thank you and

we'll go ahead and cut this off and rejoin you on Wednesday

yep thanks Taylor foreign