It's October, and we loooove Ghost Ships!! We're covering the most famous mystery of the high seas - the Mary Celeste. In 1872, the 100ft Brigantine (which means it was double-masted) was found floating in the open seas, the cargo was still there, and the ship wasn't sinking, but nobody was on board. The 10 people (including a 2-year-old) that had left NY for Genoa, Italy were never seen again. The story has haunted us ever since! We also talk the MV Joyita, which was found listed to the port side (that means leaning left) in 1955 - bloody bandages were on the deck & all 25 people on board were never seen again! Finally, we just talked about the 2002 movie 'Ghost Ship' and how much we love it. We also discuss the potential hotness of Gabriel Byrne. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com
It's October, and we loooove Ghost Ships!! We're covering the most famous mystery of the high seas - the Mary Celeste. In 1872, the 100ft Brigantine (which means it was double-masted) was found floating in the open seas, the cargo was still there, and the ship wasn't sinking, but nobody was on board. The 10 people (including a 2-year-old) that had left NY for Genoa, Italy were never seen again. The story has haunted us ever since!
We also talk the MV Joyita, which was found listed to the port side (that means leaning left) in 1955 - bloody bandages were on the deck & all 25 people on board were never seen again!
Finally, we just talked about the 2002 movie 'Ghost Ship' and how much we love it. We also discuss the potential hotness of Gabriel Byrne.
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Some sources:
Abandoned Ship: The Mary Celeste | History| Smithsonian Magazine
Unresolved Podcast - MV Joyita
Professor Buzzkill - The Marie Celesete
J. Habakuk Jephson's Statement - Wikipedia
Old Time Radio - the mystery of the Marie Celeste
Why Was this Huge Ship Found With Nobody On-Board?
Thelma Todd (Dead Blondes Episode 2)
Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor
hi Taylor you look so you look so different do I think I look a little
flushed keep going I have such bad allergies right now like I told you this before I just my allergies are insane so
I'm I might be a little flush I feel like I can't F my nose are you a little drunk I had one glass of Port I'm
remember drinking Port which I think is also also important for my um story a
thck you start you start us off you you go you welcome to do to fail I'm fars joined here by Taylor we are going to be
covering a history story here that is going to be super exciting super fun super interesting super scary super
haunted super October and super tayor Vibes that for me
yeah um so it's October so I have we have oh wait do I have wait I don't know
whatever I'm doing I have four spooky stories to tell you in October this is the first one um so number one this is
the first one so as I said before my drink is an empty decanter of whiskey and then you turn around and you look in
a mirror and then you see in the mirror and it's full right you super abct yep yes
um and you know what I'm doing because I I made sure you did some homework and um
I also because I also want to recommend a movie for each of my four scary stories so for this one um I asked you
to see the movie and you were like duh I've seen that movie before which of course you have um
and I'm we're g to talk about something that we both love we're gonna talk about ghost ships F yeah don't you love goost
ships I love goost ships so much um I even talked to like miles my six-year-old son about goost ship he's
like we like love talking about ghost ships they're so so fun so I have three things to three acts just to do um the
Mary Celeste which is the most famous of the ghost ships the MV ho which is another ghost ship and then let's just
talk about the movie go ship and how much we like it yes there
is a movie I literally just watched Taylor like maybe two weeks ago called
blood vessel but vessel is VE SS and it's a Nazi ship that is boarded
by people who or like soldiers on the Allied side uh who sh sunk and then they
get on it and it's totally abandoned it is [ __ ] awesome it is so fun it is so
fun and long story it's like deer the story of the demer it's basically that except oh so good I think I've seen it
oh my God I'll definitely watch it again I feel like I watched it with in our like scary movie thing but oh my God yes
um I love gohost ships I love goost ship movies um a gohost ship is essentially
it's like the ghost town of the sea it's an empty ship that's just floating and
there's still stuff on it there might be Clues but you don't know what happened and there are no
people like that's that's what it is um it's also hasn't sunk so there's like
thousands and thousands of ships who probably had like weird stuff happened and were abandoned but it sunk so we don't know anything about them we assume
that it sunk with people on it but we don't know but in these cases we know that it didn't sink but there are no people on them you know can we talk
about why they're creepy I'll tell you my story I think it's creepy because ships are creepy [ __ ] anyways like if
you think about it like half of what you're on is underwater if you go under there like everything above you is water
potentially it's just the bowels and like you can't run away from things quickly because like there's always like
barricades between it's just scary the whole thing is just
scary and also like any [ __ ] thing can happen when you're out at Sea you
know like there's nowhere to go you can't like run away like go haunted house you can leave Taylor I don't even
like going into the stairwell of a large apartment building because even that's [ __ ] freaky me it's like in this like
weird area that nobody should see you know that's definitely fair I used to when I worked at that hedge fund I was
talking about last episode worked on the 37th floor of a big building and when
you were in the bathroom or when you were in the stairwell it sounded like you were on a ship because the because the building moved as it supposed to for
like stability but you could like hear it it would go like it was very scary I did not I did not like it um so I think
we talked about like how scary this see is a couple times like we talked about it like a couple big ships that happened
on my episode like some Acadian refugees never made it to Louisiana they just don't know what happened to them I'm
sure there's boats of like Spanish friers that never made it to the new world so like there's always like [ __ ] can happen anything can happen once
you're out there there's like nothing there's Stars there's like your compass but like really crazy and also like how
we never found that like Malaysian flight that just disappeared a few years ago like that's how big the ocean is the
ocean is terrifyingly huge and you get lost are really really easy um so
these are some these are some of my two of my favorite goost ships there are many goost ships there might be
explanations for them and I want to hear what you think that they might be have you heard of the MV ho I have
not cool so at least I'll tell you one you haven't heard about um but let's start with the Mary Celeste so the most
famous Ghost Ship of all ghost ships the most famous Ghost Ship um the Mary Celeste actually started out as a
Canadian ship called the Amazon it was built in 1861 so it was built in Canada and she
was a brigatine which means she had two masks and she was built to be a cargo ship she was 100 feet across and 25 feet
wide at the widest point she was owned by a group of people because we talked about that before that
like it's a great way to invest before the stock market before like all these things like you can like buy a boat like
be a part of like you know it it will essentially bring cargo like back and forth and and all the things so the
first captain of the Amazon was a man named Robert McKellen he was the first
to sail and on his first ship wait his first voyage he died
quickly a few weeks into it he died of like a mysterious illness so the first Captain died kind of right away um
another Captain named John Parker took over on his first way exhibition out of
the um Americas he hit a bunch of fishing equipment and made and the ship was damaged he had to get it fixed
before he could go any further then when he got to Europe he hit a boat in the English Channel and that that boat sunk
so like didn't so far not great yeah um but then it was a few years of like
everything fine like the boat was going like from the West Indies up to like
Nova Scotia Canada back to England and like doing this big circle through like
Europe and and the Atlantic and everything was okay um in October
1867 the Amazon was wrecked on an island in Canada and left unclaimed so it was officially called like derel so what you
could do then is just like leave your boat if it got wrecked on the shore because I guess what are you going to do
you can't move it yeah and so then it goes to then can
like buy it to salvage it or they can like buy it and try to fix it but like you don't own it anymore you kind of
just leave it so from this story and Other Stories like the shores are just full of boats you know like the um the
Bounty was just like left on the shore to like fall apart into the ocean you know so they kind of like leave boats at
the end when they're done but um the Amazon ended up being bought by a man
named Alexander McBean who sold it to a Richard Haynes of the US who spent $2,000 in today's money to fix it up so
Richard Haynes brought it to the US registered it in New York and renamed it the Mary Celeste wow so I don't know why
but it was called Amazon first and now it's the Mary Celeste he lost it to creditors and it was bought by another
group who did more upgrades and one of the people who was part of this new group who was the owner was Captain
Benjamin Spooner Briggs and he's the one who we're gonna talk about okay so
Captain Briggs is from a seafaring family he's super religious which is like something that people kind of harp
on later um very religious he married his cousin as you do her name was Sarah
and they had two children you know why not those kids are not doing great but
yeah you look like you're on the mar the way you're drinking out of a you're drinking out of like a martini what is
that Manhattan glass whatever no it has it has grapes engraved in it I think
it's just like a fancy wine glass I bought it at a thrift store I bought like six of them you would fit in on the Ghost Ship like well Taylor oh my God
that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me thank you you watch 1899 no on Netflix it's one season but
it's like about a boat and like weird stuff is happening on it it's like not a ghost ship I don't know what's going on but it's in obviously set in 1899 but
it's everyone's just like dressed so cool and amazing and like it looks it's awesome um but thank you so you're
welcome now it's 18 now it's 1872 and Captain Briggs is the captain
of the Mary Celeste this year has been there's been bad weather all year long it's like not been a good year for
weather incidentally and unrelated Mount Vesuvius erupted in 1872 whoa FYI like a little like lava
flow eruption but it's time to take the Marie leest on her first official trip
she's going to go from the US to Genoa Italy which is like in the top left
corner of Italy um so they have to go like through um and into the um Mediterranean Sea and up to it yeah
Captain Bri Captain Briggs and his wife Sarah and their two-year-old daughter Sophia are the ones who are on um on
like the civilians on this ship so incidentally also Sofia actually turns two right before the voyage and her
birthday is on Halloween a wait so is the dad and the mom second cousins with
their own daughter God I don't know it's a good question it gets confusing to me when it
like it's like second cousin once removed and like blah blah blah but yeah no it's not great if I marry my sister
do we have our own siblings as our children you have your own nieces and
nephews as your children that's right that's what it be far does have a sister everyone who's
worried about that question um let's move forward they do leave their son behind
he's seven they leave him behind to be in school so there are descendants of the Briggs is alive because of the son
that that Liv there's also um on the crew there's first mate Albert Richardson he is
married to a niece of this man named Winchester who is one of the owners of the boat um and he sailed with Briggs
before so like they're friends the second mate is a dude named Andrew gillig also um you know a very
accomplished sailor the steart is Edward head he's newly married he is also like
knows what he's doing there's four General seen from Germany and everyone
is for the most part like very nice Sarah Briggs call wrote her wrote a letter to her mother and called them um
you know quite capable you know a good crew like no nothing to worry about no one was worried um so it
is on October 20th 1872 Briggs gets to New York he lives in
Massachusetts gets to New York to start packing and getting ready for this Voyage so it was about a week of prep
the cargo on the Mary Celeste is 1,701 barrels of alcohol and it's not
fun alcohol oh no it's not fun it's it's ethanol so it's like for fuel for
disinfectant if you drink it you die or you go blind so it's not fun it's just
fun a thousand barrels no dude it's probably fun for like the six minutes before you go
blind sure those a really fun six minutes then you're blind yes not great
so yeah so um on November 5th they tried to set sail but the weather wasn't great
so they made it to Staten Island and then waited two days and they finally departed on November 7th the letters
that Briggs wrote to his family were like again everything looks good make sure the boy studies like we're going to be home soon no big deal we're just on
this trip so that is November 7th wait when did they said so
spoiler November 7th they still on November 7th okay M
okay got it and they never make it they don't make it to they're trying to get to Genoa they never make it to Genoa on
December 4th so six five six weeks later Captain David morous of the ship the
detia spotted a ship doing some weird things in the ocean the saes were up but
the rigging was odd and the rigging is like the ropes and all the stuff like it wasn't some of the sales were up but not all of them like it looked weird so he
was like this ship seems to be in distress the deg gratia left New York 8 days days after the Mary Celeste and
should have been on like the same path as them but they um or I guess maybe
they weren't even supposed to be in genua yet they didn't really know yet but the de is on the same path as them
and should have gotten there like eight days after them if it would have done been like correct but instead they like see this boat kind of floating aimlessly
in the water so Captain morous um has his first and second mate go check and
they get closer to the this like random boat on theid out in the middle of the sea which is so bizarre they even found
it you know like because the sea is so huge and like I was reading I Read Moby deck a couple years ago and like in M
dick you would have like letters you would write a letter to someone to say like I'm having a great time at C I'm
fine and give it to another ship if you happen to see another ship you know what I mean like you don't necessarily ever see another ship the ocean's so huge so
the first and second mate go up there they are like calling out they're like doing signals like hey anybody there
what's going on there's no one on the deck they get on the boat they see that it's the Mary Celeste and like this is weird because they should be eight days
ahead of us you know they're like what's going on they get on the boat and there's nobody on the entire boat it's a
ghost ship they get on the boat God so
creepy so it's like I hope hope it's a little foggy creaky weird they get on
the boat there's nobody there they're calling around anybody here nobody because because Taylor Taylor like
picture it is just like you just are on the boat on the deck and you're calling to people
you're going towards the boat on your ship and you're like hello mie hello
like you know you're doing Captain like there's something weird happening like
you it's so other worldly so scary it's so creepy totally so here are the facts
here's what we know there was nobody on board no humans
on board no bodies they only had no bodies exactly no bodies no live people
no people there was one Lifeboat that the Mary Celeste had it was missing so
Lifeboat is gone some P some of the papers are missing as well as the
navigational equipment so whatever they would have used like we talked about those like things to like see the stars or whatever that was missing there was
food and water on the Mary Celeste that would have kept people fed for another six months so there was plenty of food
there was plenty of water there are three hatches on the Mary celest there was a big one in the
middle and then two on the ends the one in the middle was closed but the two on the end were open like that go into the
cargo hold in the cargo hold where those like 1,700 barrels were there was 3 and
1/2 ft of water so like not enough to sink it but there was water in there and
so they that could have been like worrying if you were you know on the boat one of the p pumps was broken so
there were like two pumps one on each side that were supposed to pump out water from the cargo hold that there was water in there one of them was broken
and taken apart like they had probably tried to fix it so a speculation is that
maybe it was clogged from coal CU they had been like a coal ship in the past so maybe it was clogged from something but
it looked like they had tried to tried to fix it um there is something on the deck that there was a makeshift thing to
measure water in the cargo hold which I imagine is just like a stick you know and you like put it in there and see how
deep the water goes so they're trying to measure how deep the water was in the cargo hold um the last log and the
ship's log that was left there was from November 25th at 8:00 a.m. which was 9
days ago and it said nothing unusual but it did say that they thought that they saw land and they would have potentially
passed some islands on the way there so that's what the last log said it said
nothing unusual nothing weird things are a little bit messy but nothing showing a struggle like just like normal just like
maybe things knocked over from the thing um and it was about 400 miles off course
like so it wasn't where it was supposed to be the ethanol barrels were were still there but nine of them were empty
the nine empty barrels were made of red oak but the rest of them were made of white oak so the red oak barrels were
more likely to leak just so maybe they got
high maybe yeah that's a
speculation so morous divides his crew in half gives half the crew to the the Mary Celeste and half to his boat um the
deg gratia and they go to jalter do you know where jalter is it's the southern
Horn of Africa Spain
[ __ ] it's actually the the north of Spain it's like almost hits Africa it's
like that gateway to the Mediterranean SE and then it's a very bottom of Spain it's like two
miles area and is owned by England even today weird passed through that yeah God
the British will [ __ ] everything up I know um so they bring it they tow the
Mary Celeste into jalter and under Maritime Salvage law they are able to go
to trial to see if they get what is on that so Maritime Salvage law is
a real law that's still a law there's a council about it in 1989 essentially this is the quote about it from the law
the The Vessel must be in Peril either immediate or forthcoming the salver must
be acting voluntarily or under no pre-existing contract and the salver must be successful in their efforts the
payment for partial success may be granted if the environment is protected so essentially if you find a ship who is
in distress and you have no prior contact with them you're not like there
to save them you it happens by accident and you save them you're entitled to
some of what's on that ship okay based on the law of the Seas
the law of the Seas that's that's so the he after the hearings they
thought there was like some foul play and that alcohol might have been involved that was like what they had said and I'm sure there was like regular
alcohol on the boat I'm sure there was like wine and [ __ ] ethol you know yeah um so some of the
rumors from The Trial they said that there was a a bloody sword the captain's sword was Bloody but when they like did
test on it it was just rusty like it wasn't it wasn't bloody but it was found under his bed so like he didn't grab his
sword when he left for whatever reason it was like still in his room um a vial of sewing oil was upright on like a
sewing machine which just like imagine like a little bottle on a table but they're saying that like that minute
couldn't have been that crazy in the water like couldn't have been super rough Seas if stuff like wasn't if everything wasn't falling over right um
there were some Cuts in the bow that looked like axe cuts and they were saying that they ended up being like not
man-made but then I was thinking do you remember that movie with like the Sharks where people come Open
Water 2 not open water One open water two never saw it so where like these
people are on this like yacht in the middle of like the ocean and they like jump out of the boat to like play in the
water but they forget to put the ladder down so can't get back on the boat um
it's like of the hle being slippery so I was like maybe they were trying to like Axe and like climb up back up on the hole which they got off of it but then
they said that those aren't manmade so maybe not that um the court ultimately gave the boat back to the investors it
went to genowa completed its Mission and arrived back in New York on September 19th 1873 so like a little under a year
later from when it left um so what happened there's lot of
rumors and a lot of things that like we think could have happened um and a lot of the rumors are because of all these
stories that people made up about it there's like too many stories maybe
about what could have happened to it you know it's too fun of a story um there
were some of the rumors were specifically because in 1893 for some reason like many years later the LA
Times wrote an article about it and they're the ones who first said the fun stuff like the food was on the table the
fires were still warm you know those rumors yeah where they were like they're not
true they're not those aren't true [ __ ] I know um but it's so much more fun
if you get there and like the food is like on the table and it's not rotten you know or like there's coffee in the coffee pot and it's still warm like
where did everybody go they like just disappeared by this instant like it wasn't this instant they disappeared like they disappeared but not that
instant um Arthur Conan Doyle of Sherlock Holmes theme wrote a story
before he wrote Sherlock Holmes he wrote a story about this he called it Jay habac jeffson statement which was like a
song doesn't it it was a story about a man who had been on the boat and he said
that there that before he left a slave an enslaved woman gave him this like
rock from Africa and said like bring this back to Africa for me and then on the on the way there
they got like um ambushed by like African Pirates and then he had this rock and they brought him back to their
Village and like all this like mystical stuff happened then they let him go home and write something down like obviously that didn't happen it doesn't make any
sense but people were like thinking that and like they had said like maybe we should investigate this and Arthur kand
Doyle was like don't do that that's stupid yeah he's like I just heard a story like it's it's it's interesting
but like that's not what happened um I also listened to there's a fun podcast
that um I listened to that was like a radio play it was
called oldtime radio and so it was like the mystery of the of the Marie Celeste
it's Mary not Marie but um Arthur Conan Doyle called it Marie in his his story
but in that it was like an oldtime radio show but I think they just made it now but whatever the it was like a a thing
where maybe there was a stow away who was a criminal you know and he killed everybody because I figured out that he
was like the criminal it's like maybe that happened which is it's like your story in Germany with the what's it
called The Hinton Hinton schleben [ __ ] HRI kek yeah yeah it's kind of
like that yeah you're just like never gonna know what really happened no there's a
lot of people who like have ideas I'm scared now yeah some ideas like maybe it
was a mutiny you know maybe like the crew was mad at the captain Briggs for some reason and killed him and then they
left like threw his body over Bo over board left in Lifeboat thought they were close to land thought they could Escape
or or whatever like they never got anywhere cuz no one's ever seen them again you know maybe morous and Briggs
were in cahoots people thought that maybe like morous of the DEA knew that this was going to happen and then they
like stole a bunch of stuff and then tried to get the insurance money but that doesn't really make sense because like the cargo was still there you know
like yeah and and Briggs never reappeared he didn't like appear somewhere being like great and then they
split the money um could have been pirates but also again stuff was still there you know like they left stuff it
wasn't like it had been robbed or ransacked there is a pretty good theory that it might have been an explosion so
some of the ethanol may have been leaking and it could have SC it could have made them scared enough to to
abandon the ship and the problem with that is there's no soot and there's no
burning anywhere like in the cargo hold but in 2005 a woman named Andrea Cella
of the University College of London did an experiment and
there's a chance that like those nine barrels that were leaking potentially
could have exploded and done like a flash explosion and then gone out really fast so it could have been like
technically really scary and then they could have thought that the rest of the boat was going to explode so they left
but it but it wouldn't have left any soot or anything yeah was a life chemical reaction yes the one life boat
was gone there's only one so yes so it sound there only like 10 people on board
but it sounds like they left so but that's weird because if
you're C ship captain like I am you know that you do not leave a boat if it's
still able to float you're much safer in the boat than you are in the Lifeboat
because life boats are small there you can't have a lot of stuff you're safer being in your ship like a car in the
snow you know if your car gets stuck in the snow don't leave your car cuz you're there than you are just like out in the open out in the open so they may have
seen land and thought they were close enough and tried to like get to that land with their on the Lifeboat because
they thought the boat was going to explode um that seems like the only reason that they would have left is if
they thought that it was like a big explosion was imminent you know no man or it's [ __ ]
haunted or it's haunted of course that's also the answer I mean the ghosts are definitely still on it somewhere oh God
the lights it is so dark here and I'm so scared right now I'm going it's getting a little bit darker for you I know this
is freaking me the [ __ ] out I'm only talking about this okay no I mean no there's 100% it's
still sailing as a ghost ship out in the world but like a literal Ghost Ship because we don't know what
happened and we never found them um and so other like ideas are like maybe a
giant squid which should be hilarious but the boat's not damaged maybe a water spout which is like a water tornado um
but we'll never know what really happened but whatever happened it scared them enough to leave which is not
something that they would do yeah they're trying to steal Shir I mean oh
oh that them yeah yeah okay yeah I get it yeah like the people on the boat they wouldn't have just left casually because
they know not to leave a boat they never would have left if they didn't think they were in like immediate danger if
they would have stayed on the boat so they I'm guessing they thought it was going to explode and then just like got lost on their life raft because wait
right the sound they were about 400 miles off course because the
navigational equipment was a little bit broken so like even they were a little bit off
where they thought that they were so they might have thought that they were by other Islands when they weren't and so they might have thought they going to
be a little bit safer it was like it wasn't perfect like the the the whole thing was like a little bit weird from
the beginning yeah sound great right you're frowning so hard are you going to have nightmares go [ __ ] nightmares tonight
dude it's [ __ ] freaky it's like it's like it's like these things called water spouts like what the [ __ ] is that like
look like where did this come from who created
these um no I know like and I mean even like the weather was bad and even like
in waves I mean like I can't even imagine being like 100 foot ship in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean you can see
nothing for months you know it's terrifying yeah yeah so so just so everybody is
aware like again reiterating the movie is called Ghost Ship no no no we're not
there yet okay all right sorry we're still talking about the about the Mary last we're talk about Goa
blast well no I'm talking about the movie because the movie was based on the Mary
Celeste what movie go ghost ship I know we're talk about goip from 20
just wait okay sorry we're talk about that sorry sorry um there actually is a
Mary Celeste movie with Bella laosi from 1935 um that has him as like a a
stowaway who I killed everyone which I did not watch but I definitely want to I'm sure it's good fun um
so we have all these rumors we have this myth like the myth of you know dinner on the table the myth of whatever whatever
but really we'll never know what happened to these people the Mary
Celeste kept sailing but she also lost a lot of money like she was never successful and people didn't want to be
on it like can you imagine being the crew that had to sail it back to America [ __ ] no it's literally the theme of Dem
it's literally the theme from dementor like it is dude so [ __ ] creepy this
room is so dark yeah no you're so
scared yes I can still hear you bring lights but yeah so exactly so
it's terrifying I can't imagine anyone being on it it makes absolutely no sense um it's really really scary and in 1879
there was another Captain who died early as well he died young too and in
1884 there was another Captain um and Captain Parker and he filled the Mary
Celeste with like worthless cargo and run it around to collect the insurance
money good so he did that and people knew
people knew what he had done immediately like no one bought it that it was like it it was like an accident um so he
actually he didn't get convicted he didn't go to jail he was let go but he died three months later just like as
like a drunk on the beach it got really dark at your house you okay got it got so much darker than
before um and then another person in the conspiracy are you did all your lights
go out dud this is a scary topic keep going are you okay are you gonna be okay I
feel like you're not g lus acting up I don't know there's a lot of weird [ __ ] going on October first um
okay so there were three people involved in the conspiracy this guy Captain Parker died 3 months later in poverty
another one died by Suicide another one went mad so like they went they nuts the the Mary Celeste had a couple more
voyages she ended up running around in Haiti and she's somewhere in Haiti she
just crashed against the beach and slowly disappeared back into the ocean and she's
gone good who said about I would I would like
so just this reminded me in New York there's like a boat that you can like like also a bar so like kind of like
going in the boat and like that's fun I feel like I would go to the Mary CEST if it was like a bar weren't we supposed to
go on the queen yeah in Long Beach we were supposed to do that because they do they
do Halloween there they do like haunted God it's so [ __ ] I would never do that now I'm so much wiser that sounds
so scary I would totally go but I'd be really scared the whole time I like I would freak out the whole entire time um
so that's the mar Celeste the most famous of the ghost ships before we talk about the movie gohost Ship let's talk
about one more this one's from 195 5 so more recent and it also has some
fun True Crime things that happen near and around it okay so this one is the MV ho it is
the MV stands for merchant vessel and ho is spelled j Yi t a it means little Jewel in
Spanish so the ho was a smaller boat in the South Pacific in 1955 25 people were
on board and they were never found they found the boat but it was empty there were no people on it the thing is
sinking so here let me hold on I'm G get there don't look at it yet okay sorry okay the
ho was built in 1931 as a yacht in Los Angeles it was built for movie director
Roland West Roland West was married to a woman named juel Carmen which is my why he named it ho that means little Jewel
he bought it for his wife she would take it back and forth to Mexico you know go on cruises or whatever they were like
1930s Rich Hollywood which is super fun the hoo was 69 feet long and 17 ft
across on the widest so smaller than the Mary Celeste like a like a yacht um you
might remember Roland West for having an affair with felma Todd I don't know if you've heard of her but she was an
actress during the S like the transition between silent films and talkis um she
there was a great podcast called you must remember this um I don't know if by Karina Longworth that's about like old
Hollywood and she does a whole series on dead blondes and thead is episode two so dead blondes thetad but Thad was married
um super fun filad was married to a actor named pat deio pat deio later
married Gloria vanderbelt when she was 17 he was awful he was he was a monster but Gloria vanderbelt later married a
man named Wyatt Cooper and that's Anderson Cooper's dad I don't know I thought that was fun small world so yeah
exactly so Mary uh thetad was an actress and she also owned with um with Roland
West they owned a little cafe in the Pacific Palisades so it was like near the beach it was a little cafe she was
like a famous actress but had this little restaurant she lived above it and Roland West had an apartment that like
attached to hers it had like a door between their bedrooms like they were obviously together and his wife lived about a block away and she was fine it
was like cots everyone knew everyone knew that was happening um so on December 16th
1935 in the morning a maid found in the garage thad's dead body she was 29 years
old she died of carbon monoxide poisoning in the garage of the wife of juel Carmen and she was in this Garage
in this beautiful car wearing a beautiful gown and had died somehow and
so it's it's a forever mystery they think that Roland West may have done it maybe juwel did it maybe it was an
accident maybe she was trying to warm up maybe she was drunk and tired she' just been at a party in Hollywood and come back home but she was very young only 29
when she died there so that's the True Crime part that's a fun story it's going to be a mystery forever yeah so but she
but Thad had definitely been on the ho a bunch because her boyfriend owned it you know so she had been on this boat so in
1941 in October 1941 they sold the boat to the US government and sent it to
Pearl Harbor so this is two months before I'm I'm going to do this thing ready December 7th
1941 a day that will live in infamy can you do better than that do
you December December
1 7th December 7th 1945 a day that will
in information 1941 I think you did better than I
did whatever so we know exactly what the hoita was doing at Pearl Harbor when it
was attacked by the jaanese but it was there for sure so it was in Hawaii
during World War II it spent World War II patrolling Hawaii it was a um a patrol ship around the Big Island um in
1948 she was sold to a private firm who added Refrigeration equipment two more
engines and filled the hall with cork so it would be really [ __ ] hard to sync the ship because it was like up by cork
like it was really buoyant you mean the cargo was cork
no they filled the hole with cork like just like added an extra layer of cork like around the bottom oh wow yeah that's why they why super buyant I
totally agree I'm gonna yes agreed to if I ever buy a ship I'm filling it with quk that that never occur to me just
save all your wine Corks And just like hot Gloom around the outside of it love that totally do that so in 1955 it was
owned by a woman named Dr Katherine l luomala who was a Hawaiian Anthropologist and
she wrote a book just FYI named voices of the wind which was used as the model
for Disney's tiki room and that started the 50s Tiki craze of like people
whatever so the woman who own boat is the woman invented Tiki as like a thing so the boat was in Samoa she had given
it to a friend to use in in Samoa and now it's 1955 the boat's owned by Dr
luam Mala but it's in Samoa and it's about to do a run from Samoa to the to
tokala Islands 270 miles away so it's about to do like a pretty General run
270 miles it should take two days for it to go um the engine one of the engines
doesn't work it's a two engine boat one of them doesn't work they delay a day
and then they decide [ __ ] it we're going to go this one engine so they get ready to go the cargo on the ho is empty
barrels so it's like extra buoyant you know it's like covered in Cork there's
barrels empty barrels as the thing and also some medical supplies so there's some other things that are like like
regular shipping things on board There are 16 crew members and nine passengers
including a surgeon who's on his way to the to toala Islands to do an amputation for someone who needs a doctor and
there's two children just FYI one's three one's 11 it should have taken two days but it never arrived they do air
searches all over the area to try to find it and they can't find it so it leaves October 3rd on November 10th the
captain of the ship toow so about like a month and a half later um a captain named Gerald Douglas found the ho it was
listed to the port side to the left that's what you're looking at in the picture but it was so it was like kind of tipped over but it wasn't going to
sink there was no way it was going to actually sink to the bottom because all of the empty barrels in all the cork
right it was it wasn't going to so the facts are these when they got on the
boat the radio there were no people again no bodies no people the radio was
Ted to the distress signal so they were like maybe trying to do a distress distress signal when they left there
were Barnacles on the side on the left side that showed it was listed for a while so it was like tipped over for a
while the bridge had been smashed so some of the things on the top had been smashed the there was an awning of
canvas on the deck that had been like makeshift so they may have been people may have been trying to like Shield
themselves from the Sun by like putting like a sheet over the deck right at some
point some of the cargo was missing not a lot but some of it was missing it had four lifeboats all four lifeboats were
missing and those would have just fit all 25 people would have fit in those four lifeboats um there had been a pump
rigged in the engine room to try to like get out but it it wasn't working the
clocks had stopped at 10:25 and which is actually I feel like the first good it was the first good
um argument I've ever seen for using like military time because they didn't know if it was 10:25 at night or in the
morning but because it was 10:25 obviously like a regular clock but also all the light switches were on so that
makes him think it was 10 at night when all the power went out that make sense the navigation stuff was missing and on
the deck the there was the doctor's bag and bloody bandages were on the deck dude there was a leak in the cargo
hold that might have been hard to find because maybe it happened at night and it was hard to get to they think a pipe leaked so they wouldn't have really
known what had happened where they were like on the deck they would have known that like maybe the deck was filling the
cargo hold was filling with water but they wouldn't have known why but again the boat was never going to sink but it
was still listing so it was like it was still listing it was like potentially like tipping over pretty quickly but
they weren't but it wasn't going to sink they were still going to they still could have been on it so again the
captain would never have left the ship is what like his friends say what his
like employers say what everyone says like the captain wouldn't have left he knows better so one of the theories is
that the captain died and everyone else panicked because someone was hurt
because the doctor's bag was left out and there were bloody bandages so how did they get hurt did
something happened and the captain died everybody else freaked out did like he get in a fight with one of the more experienced Sailors and then they both
died and it was just left people who didn't know what to do and they left in the lifeboats we don't
know it's the meter dude it's the meter it's like a vampire that's on the the ship and nobody knows it's there just
keeps taking them out one by one and then he and then he like turns into a rat or
something yeah yes and just like B it's only
explanation it's the only rational explanation another another theory is
that maybe the Japanese came and stole it but that seems smidge racist or post World War II I don't think that really
that would could be really rist Happ um eventually the Hy was sold um and
scrapped but she did run around she did um have a couple more runs they fixed
her and she a couple more runs she ran ground with passengers in 1957 she was beached in Fiji eventually they wanted
to make her into like a tea room like a little restaurant she was like on the beach but then the the government in Fiji was not super interested and they
just let it go and so piece by piece the hoita went back into the sea and she's gone the owner of the ho also he
directed The Monster in law Cheney the bat which is about a bat which is a
silent comedy mystery film that is an adaptation of the circular staircase
which nothing is telling me that this is a movie about vampires but it might be about vampires in laan Cheney is very
scary in laan Cheney is very scary and known for doing great horror
shcks interesting interesting so here's what here's what I
learned yes let me tell you what I learned from this fars if you ever on a
ship that is sinking or something that is happening please leave a note please
cut your finger and write in the ball with blood we are leaving because we think this is going to explode or right we are leaving because the
captain died and we don't know what to do like leave a [ __ ] note maybe there's a note in a bottle somewhere in the ocean that we'll find someday
someone from the Mary celest who's like here's what happened but like please take notes and please let people know what's going on Taylor they probably
[ __ ] would have if they weren't abducted by aliens or killed by Dem
meter exactly it's also aliens it also could be aliens it could have been a giant squid it could have been aliens
maybe it's actually an underwater alien cuz those are a thing wait can we
talk about the movie because now okay now we're going this is this is our third act the third Act is everybody
please watch the movie go [ __ ] from 2002 it's so [ __ ] good watch it has the
best the best is just [ __ ] incredible incredible it is so good I
scream every time and I know what going to happen it's fantastic where he's dancing with little
girl oh my dude so it stars jul I'm GNA I'm it
stars Juliana margaris who was from The Good Wife and also ER because it was me in 2002 so you would think
er um who else is in it oh uh there's Gabriel burn super
handsome as like the handsome Captain tortured he's he's not my first choice
um he okay for what there's also handsome I don't think he's that good looking I think he's handsome there's
also Desmond Harrington who ended up being in Dexter he's like the guy in Dexter he's the detective who like
marries his sister I not his sister but Dexter's sister like likes her whatever he's in Dexter um Gabriel burn is very
handsome he's not good looking and then no he's like he's like mysterious and
handsome he looks like the [ __ ] Keeper's
grandfather I'm gonna list all the people there's isah Washington also your
Fame what is what is he in I say Wasing you are oh he I was thinking he's also oh
he's in gra Anatomy same difference same thing no no no I'm confusing the too
he's in gr Anatomy there's Ron Ard who's in like a bunch of stuff he's in Deep Impact Blackhawk Dawn this is like this
90s was like really his time um super awesome the 2000s oh my God so
good and then there's um I guess only people I know but it's such it's so it's
so scary it's so good it's like so like this they find the ship the ship has been missing since the 60s in the it's
from Italy it was like a cruise ship everyone got murdered by you know I
think demon we don't know we don't know spoiler alert but it's great and it's very scary
and it's everything you want to go Sho movie to be about out and I hope that there are a ton of go ships out in the
world still because how fun would find so that's the thing there's there's levels to this so
like you have um the H ho which is a 65f
footer which is pretty big then you have the Mary sest which is 100f footer which
is like bigger cuz science but like dude
imagine if you were to come up to a [ __ ] Carnival Cruise ship that should
have 6,000 people on it dude I would I'm like [ __ ]
like just kill yourself like there's nothing wor like it's soon okay bro you
have to spend the night on this cruise ship like I would rather just [ __ ] drown myself immediately because I know that's what's going to happen just kill
yourself right then there like why even try why bother trying to survive
it's like if the Titanic didn't sink it was just like floating around the ocean for the last hundred years and then you
like find it and there's like but there's no one on it but there's no dead bodies you're like but where are the dead bodies there's no dead bodies and
in goip actually you know everybody dies but there are no dead bodies which is weird where do the bodies go in the
movie dude it's not weird it's because the thing has been out there sailing for like [ __ ] 300 years and like it's all
decomposing r whatever I I love the idea of being out
on the sea and seeing these like The Mists and they're like these masks and there's this ship that looks like it should be from like you know 300 years
ago and it has like a Spanish flag and like a pirate flag or whatever you get on it and it's empty except there's like
bottles of booze that haven't been opened in 300 years and like I I just I
mean it's so scary and so amazing I love everything about it and then you have
the fly dut the most famous that that is the
Johnny Depp Ghost Ship of ghost ships like that is the flying ghost ah
dude uh we Taylor we have such like similar Affinity like [ __ ] I literally I
literally scared myself I was gonna say I'm also really scar really scared of my backyard at
night so I'm walking onto a ghost sh yeah no I lit I scared myself sitting
here to you because it turned into darkness and was like oh my God there's a ghost sh in my backyard I
don't [ __ ] know I love it so much it's my Guys
Legally I I I'm I hate being one of those people that says go watch a thing or listen to a thing because I'm like my
taste is not your taste so I'm not going to try and impute my taste on you but I'm telling you ghost sh is [ __ ] good
it is a good [ __ ] movie and it's on HBO right now yeah is it really oh my
God I'm so doing that tonight I'm gonna rewatch this because Taylor text me and said hey watch ghost Tri this week and I
was like I don't need to because I've I I have it memorized the way I have Jurassic Park memorized like I don't
need to rewatch it yeah it's one of those but like I would am I rewatching because now Taylor scared me and I'm
nervous oh my God it's so good yes oh my God please everyone watch it if you hadn't it's great um and fars I'll give
you a movie to watch for next as well because I have another scary story to tell you next week love it excited about
it um awesome thank you thank you everyone for listening um I have one shout out to my cousin Lindsay who's the
best but yes thank you Lindsay I I Lally just I just harded your post it was
[ __ ] awesome go yeah she saw she she saw a stuffed passenger
pigeon she's talking about it and telling someone about it and they were like oh I have one and they showed one so that was super fun so dope thank you
Lindsay you're the best yeah thank you Lindsay and Taylor thank you because I
this is so this is a fun part of doing this podcast is like you think of these things it's like w like I like yeah I
can't wait to hear about the dreams that you have tonight yeah it's gonna be bad it's gonna be bad but but you literally
just put me on a a track okay so blood vessel and Ghost Ship blood vessel is like really fun but it's like stupider
than ghost sh but like it will still be fun listen to both or watch both that's fair thank you
Taylor thank you fars um everyone please find us on social at Doom toell pod or
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or at gmail.com I'm on IMDb right now FY also if you have an opinion on Gabriel burn
because I'm looking at pictures of him from a movie from 1981 called Excalibur and he's very handsome so I just wanted to bring that up to everyone I'm going
to look him up right now Xcalibur adri Gabriel oh he a movie
called Shipwrecked in 1990 looks very handsome there he looks better but he's
still he still doesn't live out to my
standards oh God he was a dad in hereditary that's the worst yeah be so upsetting oh my God
okay awesome thank you thanks Taylor I'm going to cut it
off