Farz takes us to a small town in Iowa in 1912 when a family is murdered in the night. The usual suspects are rounded up, and some are tried, but the murders remain a mystery over 100 years later. Is it someone who jumped on a train never to be heard from again? A jealous business rival? A pervy preacher? Let us know what you think! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com
Farz takes us to a small town in Iowa in 1912 when a family is murdered in the night. The usual suspects are rounded up, and some are tried, but the murders remain a mystery over 100 years later. Is it someone who jumped on a train never to be heard from again? A jealous business rival? A pervy preacher? Let us know what you think!
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and uh we are back it is Wednesday we are another two
days closer to Halloween which is very very exciting which means we're going to keep doing I guess we just unofficially
started doing a Halloween Series where we just do scary stories that aren't the typical I officially did it and then you
like did it too I offic followed you officially doing it I mean now we doing it somebody
somebody had to be the leader and unfortunately Taylor they had to be you this time how about that thank you um so
Taylor covered her story last week or on Monday I'm gonna cover mine today and oh Doom to fail yep we're doom to fail you
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are you drinking what is that that looks fancy looks like a nice beer it's not fancy it's you just made fun of me for this last last week it's a it's the same
Adams October Fest but you know what I like what I like it's a classy looking
model yeah sure it's got Sam Adams on it I imagine it says Brewer
Patriot one time I'm sure I think I told you this before that I went to um Clon
Williamsburg for Christmas one year it was so fun yeah and so one of the things that we did is my my my sister-in-law
and um two of our cousins we went for like a girls night at like the pub and
oh my God it was so it was like cold and you like walk through this like town like you're really walking through this town you open the door and it's like
it's like being in an old timey Pub there was like a guy with a fiddle like singing a song and you were drinking beer out of these like big like like
Peter computer goblets and like we were eating like cheese and bread and like it was amazing it was like one of the most
nights I've ever had why doesn't somebody create that because when I went to hobbiton and I went to the green dragon that's what it was you go to the
green dragon they're serving you beers in these giant [ __ ] like old timey mugs and everybody fun it's just every
all the floors Creek wherever you walk it just has like this m God like Ley cauldron I'd go to that a million times
yeah yeah well so there's a place in New York that you would definitely know mcor I kind of get that vibe from yeah which
like like that's kind of the only one I can think of yeah it's because they haven't
cleaned mle's in like 75 years so like that's like the vibe that you get it's
kind of like my kitchen sink uh sweet so we can go ahead and kick things off so Taylor covered her historical take on
the Winchester House and Sarah Winchester on Monday today we are going into you know what
Taylor I wrote this outline I actually gave you credit in this outline and then you called me out so I'm I'm going to still give you
credit just so you know I gave you credit because I'm going to read it direct from the outline the outline says
it is spooky season so taking inspiration from you Taylor I wanted to
go with the horror theme there you go thank you very exciting since you covered ghost trips last week I thought
I would do the next part of that scary math which is
scary houses and you also did that I'm also you well you knew what I was going to do
so yes should I okay it's it's going to get really dark in here I think I think I'm okay I think I'll I'll be okay I
want okay I'm I'm gonna let it get dark and have that be like part of the mood I'm G to turn this light on hold on I
have this little this little mister I'm going to turn my Mis on oh God it's not
working oh God should I should I hold one of my crystals do you have any
crystals I do I have this black one that's suppos to calm me down and then I have this like other
one I'll hold this black one okay CU like I said ghosts aren't real but also
I'm afraid of ghost so we don't know that ghosts aren't real nobody knows that Taylor's that is pure conjecture on
Taylor's part go ahead so I'm gonna come I'm gonna converge several topics here that
are awesome one is Hana houses the other are Unsolved Mysteries not the Robert sack version but the concept of Unsolved
Mysteries alw and Max murderers so yes
those three all come together in today's story what is that a green Crystal I'm
ready I found my I found my other Crystal I'm ready go okay we're safe all three of these coming together in
today's story which is about the valisa Axe Murders so let's get into it let's Dive
Right In valisa is a Tiny Town in Iowa it has a population of 1,100 people as
of the 2020 census yes and is mostly known for this crime in the birthplace
of a future crazy person you might know this person Randy Weaver um I don't
know white supremacist Sovereign citizen who moved his family into a part of the
town that they weren't going to have any electricity or water he's he's the main
guy who kicked off the rby rdge sandoff ah okay got it there you go
so looked into valisa a little bit trying to get a sense of feel for the town so uh there's currently three homes
for sale in bisa all of them are about $100,000 uh it is a very low budge town
to live in it is very small they have one eery called TJ D TJ's
Cafe they have a general store and the General Store does serve like like fried
chicken that you could go in and buy and then take home but that's basically it yeah so there's not much going on there
and at the time that the crime that we're talking about took place the town was like way bigger percent so it was
twice to size population wise and a lot more bustling but like everything in America was like less dense than it is
now and so a 22 2300 person Town that's still like a decent sized town for that back then what year is it we are talking
about the early 1900s okay 1912
specifically good okay so the victims of our story are a family
called the Moors which they this could also be called the Moors family a Murs
the Moors consisted of a father named Josiah a mother named Sarah their four children named hilariously Herman
because how many children do you know named Herman Mary Arthur Paul and
another set of victims unrelated to the Moors were two little girls who were called Ena May and Lena gertrud who were
friends of their daughter so we have eight people in this house
got it this $179,000 house is cute as [ __ ] in this
neighbood I know but what would you do there you just you he live in the middle of nowhere I mean it's not it's not like
you're confined to your town if you looked to Joshua Tree you'd be like there's nothing there but there's a Walmart in the town next door you're
like you're right AC down the street from Coachella Valley you came and met me up at dinner at like a festar
steakhouse like 30 minutes from your house like you're not living in the middle of nowhere Iowa I'm just I'm just
a work from home champion at the moment and trying to get people to still do it continue oh
this cute too I met Taylor I met somebody else this weekend Oh yeah I remember what I did on Friday I met
somebody else this weekend who they were hired to do like project management
remotely and then like they were hard like two years ago to do this remotely
and they said hey uh the jig's up you got to start going to the
office Bo so I think it's like it's like catching on I know it
is I know it is if you have a remote job that's telling you to go to work he write to us and let us know so we can
like start creating like a union or an association for this so a really good idea right um yeah
okay so per I'm sorry I interrup you all good I interrupted
myself so going back to what is now our Norm I'm going to set this up within
three acts so act one is the crime act two are the suspects act three is our
conclusions so act one the crime you
ready I am I love this one I'm gonna hold my my
crystals on June she's holding her crystals up there's two of them
uh visual medium so on June 10th the Moore's neighbor a woman named Mary
Beckham knocked on the door this is this is a Monday June 10th 1912 it's a Monday
Mary knocks on the door of the mo home and nobody answers she gets concerned because she hasn't seen the mors come
out and do their chores it's the 1912s you got to put your laundry out you know you got to put your do all that [ __ ] she
got concerned and she called Josiah's brother Ross who also lived in town to come over had a key to the front door so
he opens the front door he walks in and he stumbles across two dead bodies the
dead bodies he stumbles across are Mary's friends Lena and
Ena he runs outside and tells Mary to call the local officer they call them
peace officers which I guess that's like that was what you called them back then I think I think I think that's a time
where like I don't feel like we talked about this body where like the cops aren't like real cops it's like a dude
that's like second job yeah yeah like he's a dog catcher some days and some days he's the mayor it's the same job
yeah totally 100% so this peace officer comes over he searches the house and he finds the
bodies of the six Moors and the two girls that Ross had earlier found who were there for the sleepover it was
determined that that all eight had been bludgeon to death by an axe found at the home which also belonged to
Josiah the investigation found that there were two cigarette butts in the Attic which led investigators to
conclude that the killer was hanging out in the attic and came down and started
just [ __ ] hacking away at these people which is like so scary I know you're gonna talk I know you're gonna like talk about hindai effect right at
some point no but it is literally just like that okay it's the same story and
there's like a there's a theory that's the same person you know whatever
but that is so [ __ ] scary it's one of the scariest things whole entire world I'm living attic wait
they wait you mean the hinter kek is the same person as this guy some so in that book I think I told
you this when I read talking about HRI kek the um the guy who wrote The Man
from the train that I read a while ago his theory is that like it's he's like a
it's Paul Mueller this German immigrant who did a bunch of Axe Murders in America and then went back to Germany
and then did hind KC and like whatever else there and then they disappeared into to Europe history yeah that can't
he Paul Mueller came up in this one too wow okay interesting I didn't I didn't I
didn't cover Paul Mueller because I don't think that was him I don't know I don't know if he did
hinder cic either but like the thing is like he was someone who definitely murdered people from inity train
stations yeah for context the reason I didn't do this guy was because the any
weirdo in town was a suspect ECT at some point in this like they rounded up like half the town at some point so like the
list is like 34 people long and like it's not a good story it's just like
this guy once like laughed hard and squirted milk out of his nose so they
all thought he did it like you know mean it's just like stupid stories like that so anyways totally two cigarette butts
in the Attic the Assumption was this guy was up there waiting to strike when he did strike he went for the parents first
Josiah and Sarah were asleep in the same room so police don't know who they who he attacked first but apparently they
beat the [ __ ] out of Josiah to the point where his eyes were gone I I sleep with an ax next to my bed Taylor do you
really yeah I used to have a knife a knife there because I have I Feel Like a Knife is
what is a weapon of choice for me if someone's robbing me but I don't even know where it is yikes yeah uh so this
whoever this person is then went for the more children and killed them before making it to Ena and Lena apparently
Lena is the only one that had defensive wounds on her indicating that she was the only one that was awake and knew what was going on when it was happening
she also had her underwear removed and investigators her underwear was pulled
down her blouse was pulled up and so investigator said that she was not
sexually assaulted apparently so H I got for that whatever um so yeah that's the
crime part of it and there's some underlying circumstances about what happened in this city that I want to get
to before I get into act two and who the suspects are because the reason I'm covering the suspects that I'm covering and not the 34 other people that I
mentioned earlier is because of the things I'm going to tee up here so Taylor have you heard of a thing called
children's day I think it as a mom you might know what this is no okay so apparently on the second
Sunday of June every year we in the US and it happens everywhere it's different
days in other countries but in the US it's Second Sunday of every June we're supposed to be celebrating a thing
called children's day which is basically a day where kids are just like force-fed Christianity so like I assume it's kind
of like a fair like atmosphere but there's also like sermons and stuff and
otherwise like it would just be church I would assume right if it's just like we're just going to do sermons so it's got to be like a fair I assume right
just like extra church but for it's right talk about no AR yeah yeah so the
Second Sunday in June of 1912 was the day before the bodies were found so
that's the first thing I'll I'll plant the seed of planted the second is some
background on Josiah Moore so when Josiah was starting out in bisa he
worked for a man named Frank Fernando Jones Frank owned the only hardware
store in town and had a very lucrative exclusivity deal to resell John Deere
farming equipment he made a shitload of money apparently he built himself the biggest
house in town he started a local bank he eventually would move on to be a senator
um and so he had like a really good thing going for him like he was kind of like the man in bisa Josiah worked for
Frank until he asked for a pay raise and Frank refused him so what Josiah did was he went away he established his own ware
store in town and wrestled wrestled away that exclusivity deal that Frank had
with John Deere probably arguably worse than that
Josiah also had an affair with Frank Jones's eldest son's wife does that make
sense yes okay so this was like obvious okay we're talking about sons of a
patriarch and a small town like it's these are these are big outsized things
that are going on essentially so Frank really didn't like Josiah at all is
clear okay okay got it so let's we have some background information there so now
let's move on to act two the suspects which I think the first one's going to be kind of clear by
now so the first suspect is Frank so
obviously Frank hates Jo Josiah uh he basically taken away his standing in the
community of being the biggest baddest best hardware store in the area he he humiliated his son with his affair with
his wife so that's that's kind of the the the first suspect nothing came of
this because there's no evidence that would tie him to it the second person is connected to it in some way and it is
assumed that Frank Jones hired him it's a guy named William Mansfield so this is crazy in between
the years of 1911 in 1914 there was just a bunch of UNS I'm going to go lock the
doors hold on I'm just going to show myself the door open it is now
officially dark yeah I I See's window it is officially dark outside yep definitely don't need to be killed by my
own axe wait I'm gonna I'm GNA go grab the
axe I'm looking at pictures of the house it looks nice you know The Farmhouse I love like K well I love ch cabinets if
you've been to my house I have like five China cabinets I just like
desperately want more I don't want anything else but China cabinets but like an old fashioned kitchen like china cabinet like the stove you know it's
cool okay wait let me take a screenshot of us hold
on I just heard on my ring L how do I take a full i g hold my how do I do
telling I'm hitting something okay I'm just going to hold my axe uh so okay uh um okay so where I was going
with this is that between the years of 1911 and 1914 there was like all these
unsolved Axe Murders around the country so there was this is just in three
years there was one in Colorado Springs two in Kansas One in New Orleans one in
Aurora Illinois one in blue ISO wait no we're not in
Illinois no I know but in in Wayne's World Wayne's from Aurora Illinois he
says Aurora Illinois oh right on yeah yeah uh Blue Island Illinois I'm going to come back to the Blue Island one here
in a minute but so keep that one in mind but the key thing to note is that all these murders in these three years how
many is that hold on one 2 three four five six six seven seven including seven
Axe Murders in three years all unsolved they all shared the exact same crime
scene including the moous sheets were put up in the windows to Shield
Outsiders from looking in the murderer the murderer the murder weapon was always an Axe and was always wi clean
when the murderer left the murder victim always had oh my God Luna don't bark
right now I can't do this the murder victims always had their heads covered with clothing this is creepy Taylor the
mirrors in the house houses were always covered up I hate that that's so [ __ ]
C I hate I hate the mirath so much I feel like this is scarier than ghost and maybe you'll talk about ghost later but
this is like a real actual live person with an a him into your home so freaky so freaky and there was
never fingerprints found for any of these nobody could nobody there was no way to tie any of these together and
back then D the 1900s do they even know what fingerprints were do people even know what fingerprints are now like it's
like there got to be someone that knows it's got to be tied in some way like it's not good so there's a detective we're going
to introduce his name is j James Wilkerson and he was convinced that all these murders were all related and that
the murderer was this guy Manfield mostly because of the Blue
Island murder in Illinois that I mentioned earlier so what happened there is that manfi the man Mansfield's own
family was hacked to death with an axe so his wife child mother-in-law father
like the whole family was wiped clean he was never charged with any murders in the family he was most just known as
like a cokehead like just like a weird drug addict that just like kept [ __ ] [ __ ] around riding the rails going
from City to City doing whatever and he was he was basically the the
detectives in in the thing were like this is the guy that had to have done it he was ultimately arrested and brought
before grand jury and the grand jury concluded that there was sufficient evidence to prove that Mansfield was not in bisa on the night of the murders
because of the receipt he produced from Illinois from that same night that being said the detective in
the case go ahead sorry oh I just a a receipt in 1922 is a
piece of paper that someone WR with her hand yeah you know like I'm looking at like Sarah Winchester's ledgers of her
like of her wealth and it's all like handwritten in like an actual accounting book you know what I mean it's like you can write whatever the [ __ ] you want
yeah yeah and and and it's it was so to that
point uh Wilkerson was not only convinced that Mansfield have done this
but he thinks he did it at the theast of Frank Jones like he assumed that Jones was like [ __ ] this family [ __ ] this guy
and I know this guy who like clearly murdered his own family so he's probably going to be having any issues killing another person's families and so the
idea was that uh he would hire him to do this the short of it is that he goes to
trial or he does go to trial there's grand jury that could have indicted him and they won't and it's on the back off
the back of this receipt that they won't do it and Wilkerson this detective is like no this is all influence pedaling
this is all Frank Jones trying to get this guy off because he knows that if he doesn't get him off he's probably gonna talk and get him in trouble and all that
stuff right what's interesting is that there's eyewitnesses who have who saw Mansfield
in bisa the morning of the murders meaning he couldn't have been in Illinois right so there's that I don't
believe he was Illinois at all yeah exactly exactly you don't keep your receipts in this time either he's a
cokehead cokehead don't keep receipts anyways now going from thinking his like
his little handkerchief that he has tied around a stick when he's jumping from train to train he has full of receipts for his taxes no it's called it's called
a bindle cans of beans called a bindle just show in his bindle are there
receipts no so this guy ends up getting off this guy Wilkerson the detective won't let
off this he's basically like this is rigged this guy [ __ ] did it that guy paid off people to get this guy off long
story short they sued this detective into Oblivion so because he couldn't get convicted so they Su him for liable you
got to prove that it was a it was a um it was true when you said it they couldn't do that and so they suit him
into Oblivion and so anyways that was the the end of the Mansfield Jones connection to this murder the other
suspect is an obvious sex offending pedophile looking freak sorry I
shouldn't say freak okay anybody who hears this sorry there was a guy named Reverend George Kelly you want to look
this guy up he looks like he has a weasel he has a weasel face like a r
face um I'm not surprised to hear the word reverend yeah obviously in that so okay
Taylor e yeah no not great listen I will be honest with you I have kind of a bias
against Reverend pastors preachers whatever and this guy was a traveling
preacher and look I'm not saying I'm not saying all preachers are sex offenders
okay I'm not saying that but if you're a sex offender being a
past pretty lot of them are pretty good gig it's pretty good gig
and yeah a traveling one you can just like do whatever you want so easy right so one thing about Kelly is that he did
not have a really good track record so one thing he was known for was like pervy things he would do with like young
women and like girls which like I'm not going to get into use your imagination whatever uh but it was just known around
it was just known that this guy was like you you don't want your like 16-year-old daughter around this guy
basically and 100% no and this guy basically just blew into town as this traveling preacher for children's J do
his sermon get his Applause pick up whatever and add it to his bindle sck because I'm assuming he also has a
bindle sck because everybody here in this time period probably did and then go back home yep he was there the night
the Moors were killed he didn't leave town until like 5:00 a or so the next morning so he was definitely there was
he there for children's day yeah he was there he was there preaching Chris yeah and and the Word
was that uh Josiah I didn't write this in the outline but the word was that Josiah wanted to beat the preacher he
wanted me to meet his family and so he made a point to introduce him and his
like two daughters and these two other girls that were like with they're staying with him to this traveling sex
offender so there was that he sorry I laugh that's
terrible so police look at this guy and they're like okay there's obviously something going on he looks like he has
a weasel's face his mouth is too small for his body which we shouldn't judged people for that cuz I also have that
same problem but police arrested him and questioned him and this guy the Reverend
confessed he confessed the killings are you laughing with the at my mouth I'm laughing I guess you do you're
saying you have a small mouth that's that's what I've been
told I'm so sorry that I'm laughing at that I don't know why that's not funny I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry you're
telling me that you're you're telling me the things that you are insecure about him laughing at them I'm so
sorry to be fair I I didn't I didn't think you take me take it seriously really funny they like as a
man who also has a small mouth we should not judge people we should never judge people off the sides of their mouths
weasel faces yes sorry I'm
sorry so they arrest this weasel face sex offender and he confesses to the
killings and and it wasn't like a super detailed confession he basically sets some the fact if he was walking around
the town the night of the murder he came across the moous a voice inside him told him to go find an ax start kill it
sounds like kind of nonsense and so one account I read was that investigators
believe that the killer was left-handed and so they asked this Reverend to chop a piece of wood to see what he would do
so he gave an axe which feels like the last thing you would give an axxe murderer is an axe you really thought
it you feel like you try to give them more blunted instruments than that that's
fair and he uh and yeah he like chopped the wood with his left hand so like oh this guy obviously has to have done it
and and there was the fact that he was a known pervert and this little girl's pants were like pulled down so like there was that piece of it as well so at
trial his attorney said that he gave this confession under duress and that his wife would testified during the
trial that I can't imagine a woman like saying this about their husband she goes my my husband was a weak-minded man and
he had previously confessed to an arson that happened on the night that he was literally at home with me like he could
never have done that arson it does not Shock me that he confessed to the eight murderers of these like this family and
that I mean that happens so much like so bizarrely but like people are always confessing to [ __ ] that they didn't do
hey you know what I saw the um the the one about the um those kids the New York time the Central Park five or whatever
and in that case I get it it's like you got a bunch of like eight-year-olds like of course they're freaked out the cop
tells them you're going to go home if you confess you can't be a [ __ ] trap preacher and like in your 40s or he was
34 the time well I feel I'm not even saying that like it sounds like she's saying that he would just confess to
crimes that he couldn't possibly have done you know like people who like call and they're like I'm the Zodiac Killer and they're like no you're not I don't
know I mean if you don't have a hobby right I guess it's a hobby but it's wasting police time if you're bored
enough I mean I could see myself calling the cops and just confessing to random things maybe not eight murders I feel
like I feel like that would be like pretty over the top but you know something innocuous like I'm the one who stole the Kit Kat at the 7-Eleven down
the street catch it was me yeah catch me if you can uh so the jury in in his
trial they were hung so 11 people voted to acquit him one voted for Not Guilty by reason of
insanity so one person thought that he actually did it out of 12 he was retried
and then on the on the retry he was fully acquitted so there again like I said
there were a few other suspects basically just any person that the town thought was kind of weird was considered
you know potentially part of this problem I read an article about the killings by an author named Katherine
ramsland which you may have heard because she's been referenced in last podcast and other podcasts quite a bit
she's kind of amazing so she writes all kinds of stuff all kinds of stuff on True Crimes sexual deviant Behavior she
wrote one about like why people want to have sex with dead bodies which
like I didn't know I didn't know that many people did but enough for a book but like it is I enough to author a book
on it I would I would assume she has a Masters on psychology on forensics on criminal justice she's wrote about 25
books and um and she wrote about this one as well she ended up writing about
uh Robert wrestler who's basically the person who like coined the phrase serial killer and like his FBI work and his
profiling work is like what the world looks at now in terms of how to identify who Ser serial killers are and Robert
wrestler did his take on who he thinks Alisa murder could have not who it could have been but who it would have been if
it was like based on a profile and he concluded that the killer was an obviously mentally ill man in his mid to
late 30s who was well-built and his profiling based on like what he was saying here was that Reverend Kelly
would could never been the killer he was too Meek he was too small he was a tiny frail fragile guy it never could have
been him yeah ramlin posits that the killer may never have been identified or
interviewed anyways out of the dozens of people that were because it could have been a transitory person kind of like
you said that's what I think too I mean like that guy's got to be gone like to the
wind gone you'll never find it in the middle of this I found another person oh
my God could you please I I just okay can you can you please DM me your address so that I can call 911 when you stab yourself in the face with this axe
that you're playing with right now CU you're now you're you're holding the axe backwards and pointing at me with it so I just need to be able to call the
ambulance to your home now it's a gun oh my
god oh man that is sharp though um so
so I found this other guy that was like a totally unknown person until
1999 this guy was an illegal immigrant from Mexico who literally just rode the
rails across the country and would just hop off kill somebody and then hop back on the rails and go like he would just
do the only he would only get caught for like immigration reasons like he was
deported four times he was never caught for the killings themselves until 1999
so he was operating for 13 years killed 16 people just by being on a train
hopping off going to town killing someone by the tracks then hoing back in like how are there so many of these
people it sounds like that's something you could just do this isn't the 1800s this was 1999
it's almost oh that guy did it wait that guy did at 1999 yeah oh that is weird I
thought you meant they discovered that story in 1999 but you're saying that he did it in 1999 yeah because Katherine
ramsland was like Hey like look we have all these random Town folk suspects that we're looking at it could have been like
anyone and like here's evidence of that like exactly 1989 this random dude just
[ __ ] oh dude crazy [ __ ] and so yeah so we so we don't know so I wrote down
that on act three for our conclusions my guess is that Danfield guy is probably the most likely to have done it because
I think it's weird it's kind of like what you said if you're like digging on your property and if you find like too
many dead babies you know there's like a finite limit of dead babies you could find like one's okay cuz like that's an
accident it could have been anything but like seven means you're a baby murderer
yeah like Taylor if you found out that I systematically killed my entire family with an axe well you don't know that you
find out that I lost my entire family to a mysterious a that was never caught and then like yeah eight months nine months
later arrested I'm arrested yeah I'm arrested with on charges of killing a
family with it's like that's one too many like you weren't found guilty but it's like one too
many yeah so we're on the same page we think as this
guy well I think so I think is this the one also I feel like in that man from the train book where he talked think it
was Paul merer and or whatever just like a transient like there was a thing is it this house that had the creaky step and
then in the book The Man from the train there were like he probably just like ran up the stairs really fast and like
how could you kill everybody so fast or at least without anybody waking up except that one little girl so I so for
one the two girls were downstairs in like a totally separate part of the
house so like feasibly I could see that happening the harder thing to believe is
him wait actually it's not because what happened was he started on Josiah went
to Sarah went to the kids' room went back to Josiah then went downstairs to
the two little girls so Josiah so he might have like hit Josiah [ __ ] like
knocked him out and then went after Sarah because Sarah was probably waking up at that time and was like okay I
don't have time to finish them off right now I gotta go kill the rest of these guys and I can come back which is like an insane ludicrous thought what's also
weird is that he used the axe blade on the adults but the blunt end on the kids
see what I'm doing huh yeah yeah I do know what that is oh my God please be
careful that is weird and another question that I have for you did you imagine that the little
girls are were just sleeping over they just like weren't supposed to they just asked her sister and she was like sure you can sleep over poor babies poor
family poor mom and dad everyone that's so sad just like one night sleeping over at your friend's house and like you get
murdered that happens to be the X murder night then also did you talk about like there was like that like bacon on the
floor did you hear that I've never heard that the one that like around like the two little girls downstairs with like a
slab of bacon on the floor which like the guy probably used to sexually assault them if or at least or to like masturbate with it it's like a
thing what that was this I think it's I think so I don't know I mean I went to like
some details about like the the so there's parts of the there was a 4B of bacon takeen out of the ice box and lay
next to the ask axe ask axxe anyway I know that he had a wash
basin left downstairs which is where he would wash his hands and maybe I missed the axe part or the
bacon part so wait he had sex with the bacon no he like used it as like Lube to
like masturbate over the dead their dead bodies potentially man times were times
are rough back then like you had to [ __ ] you had to have a whole hog next to
you um but yeah that is that's so I think so the only person that actually
went to trial was the sex offending with weasel face and he got off and he probably should have gotten off because he probably didn't do it even though
he's actually probably a sex Fender and then you got uh the Mansfield guy and then the other guy Frank Jones he went
on to become a senator good for him yeah it's f I
um what do you and then what they do now the house
you can go there right you can go there yeah yeah it's it's just like the Winchester House it's like a tourist
spot wow stop acting at me I don't like it
I'm gonna hit the computer and [ __ ] it up that's really
scary just like someone can just walk into your house and disappear just disappeared
Taylor can I tell you what I did last night that was really scary so I went to the movies I was out of the house for
like probably three and a half hours we had dinner beforehand I get home the [ __ ] front
doors open what I didn't I I either didn't lock it or what my assumption is that
nobody opened it because there was dogs there and they were still there and they were fine and nothing was missing but
now I'm like they could have just came in and are like in my attic you don't have like a camera or
anything oh I could look at the camera it's good point I do have a camera the camera is really
scary I should look at the camera yeah let me know what that says because I'm
very curious um if I die who inherits my
share of the podcast me me I'll I'll do it by myself you do it by
yourself yeah you would do that yeah what else am I GNA do it's true wait the
movie was at 7:30 so okay we left the house let's see at 6 okay so that's a
dog my God if you see a video of someone getting into your house and climbing into your attic right now I'm going to lose my mind man how [ __ ] cool would
that be for Halloween though the story this podcast the next episode could be like the far's ax murder the story where
get chopped in half okay that's me good this is still me that's a man in a
scream mask not good not good A little little troubling
oh my God actually so creepy yeah we walked over to the front door and I was
like this is open but wait you don't see anything is
this open no that that's okay unless the person like I don't know okay and then
we got home at 10:02 and that is me walking in the front
door all right I think I'm good I'll keep my axe with me though anyways yeah with you and John's coming
over so John's obvious no he's much easier
Target than I am they'll definitely go for John first for sure go for him first
perfect perfect um anyways on that note that that was scary yeah I should um I
should probably wrap um do we have anything we want to tell
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