Today, we travel to the Northwest Passage - a route from Europe OVER Canada and on to Asia (and all the spices that come with that). Many tried and failed, but the most spectacular and haunting failure is that of the HMSs Terror and Erebus. The ships set sail in 1845 and were never seen again. From what we know, the crews were sick from scurvy, lead poisoning, and from being stuck in the ice for a year and a half. Eventually, the crew walked into the great white wilderness and disappeared into history, never to return home or complete their mission. The good news is that since the ice caps are melting, it's now quite an easy journey! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com
Today, we travel to the Northwest Passage - a route from Europe OVER Canada and on to Asia (and all the spices that come with that). Many tried and failed, but the most spectacular and haunting failure is that of the HMSs Terror and Erebus. The ships set sail in 1845 and were never seen again. From what we know, the crews were sick from scurvy, lead poisoning, and from being stuck in the ice for a year and a half. Eventually, the crew walked into the great white wilderness and disappeared into history, never to return home or complete their mission.
The good news is that since the ice caps are melting, it's now quite an easy journey!
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History of HMS Terror & Erebus
New discoveries from the wrecks of HMS Erebus and Terror | Royal Museums Greenwich
A very special piece of paper | Canadian Museum of History
Death in the Ice | Canadian Museum of History
Franklin's lost expedition - Wikipedia
Buried in Ice: The Mystery of a Lost Arctic Expedition (Time Quest Book)
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and boom and we are back on a lovely lovely Wednesday where we've had
an awesome week Monday Tuesday and today is awesome and so well
Thursday and Friday can I stop talking and ever forever and ever it's gonna be
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it's all that matters I like what I like okay so welcome to Doom to fail it is
Wednesday we are covering a historical topic today that if I know Taylor which I sort of kind of think I do is gonna be
Halloween oriented because she stole my theme I don't know if it's Halloween oriented or is just like a fun story now
that I think about it but it's creepy so I feel like it's a little scary so that counts I guess yes I'll take it it um so
I have a whole bunch of sources that I will put in the thing and I asked you to
do some homework that you didn't do but we'll talk about that in a second so um we're going to talk about the doomed
expedition of the north the Northwest Passage by the ships the terror and the Airbus in
1845 hold on they named a real life ship the terror yeah we'll talk about this in
a like why in a little bit but yes so there's a show called The Terror it was
on AB AMC AMC and now it's on shutter you can watch it on shutter and it's one season and our friend Jay who loves
horror all things horror he really loved it and I knew I wanted to watch it for this because I have some books that I
read but I definitely wanted to watch the show because it looked really good I had a hard time with it like I was looking up reviews and reviews are like
it's a masterpiece and I was like a it's too dark like physically I cannot see it you know like there
Parts where I'm like what am I even looking at you know yeah and there's things that happened that were like
happened later that I was like oh I didn't realize that they had this thing or I didn't realize that this person was there I think it's also partially
because you know how I cannot tell white men with beers apart yes that is a was a common feat
you've accomplished white man with a beard face blindness so I was like I don't know who I'm looking at I don't know what's happening um and it also was
like a fantasy story there was a little bit of magic and I'm like yeah like I get it like I get it's fun to like put
magic into this mystery to like try to figure out what happened but also like I don't care the real story is super
interesting like why would I care about magic you know what I mean like did you ever watch The Man in the High Castle no
is that the Nazi one yeah so it's like what would happen if like the Nazis and the Japanese had won um World War II and
like that is a super interesting idea I definitely want to learn about that like things were crazy it was really like
really interesting but then it got into magic and I was like well magic ISU you
ruined it like that's not what I'm here for like I'm here for this interesting potential historical story so okay can I
can I say something stupid yes I kind of felt that way about Game of
Thrones that there was magic in it when when the red woman was there doing her
magic thing I know that dragons also aren't real but it was like yeah more
realistic as opposed to like now there's like a black cloud that is gonna stab
the Future King you know it's like you don't need it I feel like then because
then you're like then it could definitely not be real you know need or cheating the story it's cheating it
takes all the human Intrigue out of it or the dragon in yeah you're like oh you could have just done magic this whole
time yeah whatever agree okay anyways go ahead sorry so anyway if you want to watch the show
definitely do I didn't love it but i' love to hear more opinions on it because it'd be fun so this story I've actually
been really excited about since I was a kid and I have this book and this isn't the original one that I had but I remembered it later I wanted to buy it
for my kids so I bought it on Amazon I have it here it's called buried in ice The Mystery of the Lost Arctic
Expedition it's for like 9 to 12-year-olds but it has like all these cool pictures like look at this dead
guy oh God that is creepy and I remember reading this when I was a kid and really
and really like thinking it was so cool so I bought it again like I bought it again like 10 years ago when I knew I was having a kid so that I could give it
to her but anyway I just reread it this week and it's super fun it's about a um
an expedition in the 1980s I'll tell you about it later so I read that and that was really fun because I've always liked
the story so here's what happened to these doomed ships once Europeans discovered the
Americas they wanted to get to Asia easier you know that was the idea
Columbus thought he might hit Asia all those things they wanted to be able to go across the whole world as easy as
possible the only way to get to Asia during this time for like most of the
world was to sail either under South America or under Africa you know okay you couldn't go through you couldn't get
through any quicker the Panama Canal wasn't completed until 1914 so now it's a lot easier but if you wanted to sail
from like New York San Francisco you had to go all the way down under South America and then back up you know you couldn't just like go holy [ __ ] wow but
now now you the Panama is are right under Mexico you could just now you can kind of scoot through there but you
couldn't do that for most of time so a lot of men wanted to be the first ones
to maybe go up so everybody could go down like could you go up like above Canada like to that top of the world to
get to Asia and so that's what they're trying to find called the Northwest Passage
and it's hard because it's really [ __ ] cold there like it's just made
of ice there's ice there's polar bears it's freezing the winters are dark the entire time the ocean freezes like cold
possible it's freezing so in 1845 a new Expedition came out some familiar faces
who had been on these types of trips before so they're all like seasoned Sailors I'll tell you about them it was
expected to take a few years but they were really confident they had like a really well-fitted boats that were ready
to like crush ice and which is why we're drinking ice water get it um and but
they expected to pop out on the other side and be on like the west coast of Canada within like two years the two
wait from where from England why would they end up on the other side of Canada because they're
they're going above Canada they go like they go above they stop in Greenland to like get supplies and then go to the top
of going through all those islands above Canada essentially Canada just like turns into
Islands that's where they're going yeah I know that I of course I know that I'm
using my gesturing for you so um so um the two boats that set out on this
on this particular trip and it had a lot of people had tried before no one had done it yet are the terror and the
arabus so the terror is a vvus class bomb ship which is fun as far as I could
tell only three vvus type ships were ever made and that's just like the type of ship by like the the architect or
boat architect who made it it was made in Topsham Devon in 1812 in the UK it
was named the teror to scare people it was a bomb ship it was meant to go to war they gave these ships really scary
names on purpose to be like oh [ __ ] the terror's coming like they you want to be afraid of it it was in the US during the
war of um 1812 it was in Baltimore during the Battle of Baltimore in 1814
when the Star Spangled Banner was written so the guy watching the bombs bursting in air and [ __ ] the terror was
there which is cool um after the war she went on Expeditions in the Mediterranean Sea and in the 1830s the terror was made
into an Arctic ship which made it Like A Little Bit Stronger they like put may put like more things on the hole to like
reinforce it so that it could technically Crush through ice hopefully that was like the goal uh she went to
the Arctic a few times before she went in 1836 she was trapped for 10 months in
the ice because at some point in all these Expeditions the boat just freezes the ocean freezes you know you can't go
any further in um she was on another trip called the Ross Expedition Francis
Crower who's we're going to meet he's one of the captains he was the captain of the terror during that that um Expedition they traveled to the fauland
islands which is actually the bottom of South America and while they were there they discovered quote quote quote a a
dormant volcano and named it Mount Terror and that's still there which is cool that's terrifying um the other ship is the
arabus actually once I learned what that meant it's much scarier than the word Terror do you know what the word arabus
means no that is arabus is the Greek god of Darkness that's scary God of Darkness
that's pretty scary that's up there arabus is the son of chaos and he's married to his sister Nick who is the
personification of KN which is cool Sister Part not sister part but like
they're a creepy family if your mom's chaos literally you know um arabus was a
hecka class bomb vessel same thing it was also in the Ross expedition to anarctica um but now it's 1845 and they
need some people to be on these boats for another trip to try to find the Northwest Passage one fun thing that
they had is they had a camera so before they left they took some pictures of themselves like outside the boat which
is cool because you can actually kind of see what they look like you actually like really know what these men looked like because you have their
photos um some of the main people on the ships there is the captain is Sir John
Franklin he was the overall leader of the Expedition he was captain of the arabus he was older he was 59 which may
have been like a little bit too old to do this but they let him do it anyway he was was a very um
accomplished Navy sailor he person C person he had been kned hence the sir um
in 1819 he was in um on a copper mine Expedition that went up the Hudson
through Canada um during that 11 of the 20 men died so people gave him the nickname the man who ate his boots which
is like a really dumb nickname but I mean did he eat his boots probably because they were serving least it was
name they also might have eaten each other so we've talked about this like if you're starving it's fine just eat your
friends I would totally eat my friends don't not do that um he was married to a woman named Lady Jane Franklin and she
seems cool she really worked hard to try to find him and she ended up becoming kind of an Explorer in her own right spent a lot of time in Australia like
later after after he disappears the captain of the terror is Captain Francis Crower he is um he had been the captain
of the terror for the Ross Expedition that we talked about before he was 48 he was a very seasoned Captain um oh one
cool thing so the captain of the terror Captain Crower he had joined the Navy when he was 13 and in 1814 he was on the
boat that went to pck Karen Island and met the last survivors of the bounty W all your stories are intertwined and now
you got vus you got this I know it's fun right so he met the people in The Bounty that we talked about earlier um another
important person is Captain James Fitz James he was an officer he was very sad about being a bastard
I don't know why that's funny I just think I should call I think I know that's terrible I shouldn't say that but he was an illegitimate child he was like really bummed about it and he really
tried to like be really Brave to like prove himself in the world he had been everywhere he'd been kidnapped in South America he was in the Egyptian ottoman
war in the Middle East he was in the first opian War in China he wrote poems about war he was like a real hardened
man um some other people on there again it's all dudes there's Dr Harry gooder he was the ship surgeon um and so he was
like the doctor and like you know whatever that means they did find eventually a like box with some like doctor stuff in it like herbs and pills
and [ __ ] cuz they still don't know you know much about medicine at this time um he picked that name for himself it's
pretty good right Dr gooder it's like far's handsome man like it's nice try
buddy no it's a really good name um a couple other guys there's John Irving Lieutenant Graham Gore David Young David
Young was the ice Master responsible for checking out the ice and getting them through which spoiler alert he did not
do um and then there's a whole bunch of crew people so the head
off they have a ton of stuff so they have they fill the ships with lemon
juice for scurvy tin food to eat for years the tinned food incidentally had
been created by a company run by a man named Steven goldner seven weeks before
it started he got the contract so he had to rush to get the food canned for them so that's important later as well okay
um the engines were made from a train from a train steam engine to make it go faster so this was like the most
advanced ship they'd ever sent to the Artic fun fun so now it's May 19th 1845
and here's what we know happened they left from Green Green height near London
that Port 24 officers and 110 men in the show another thing like every once in a
while there'd be someone in like a red coat like a different kind of military man and I'm like I don't know why they're there and I I don't think that
was ever explained to me but all sorts of different different officers they took them 30 days um of
really bad weather to get from London to Greenland when they got there they they there were some other ships that were
with them that were like get holding some more supplies so they like restocked from those other ships the
other ships went back and that was the last time they were able to write letters to their family before they like went into the into the Arctic so you see
this yeah what happened was hives there's a [ __ ] [ __ ] mosquito in my room oh gross this damn thing and he's
like really he's really I think so he's really crafty or has a lot of mosquito
bites on his arm man it looks like I attacked by [ __ ] Wolverine it
does okay go ahead sorry I didn't even to interrupt no no it's okay so anyway
they are in greeland last letters home and then they're off they're off into
the Arctic they're off into the Northwest Passage on July 29th or 31st 1845 so a little bit more than a month
after they left um left Greenland the both ships were cited in Baffin Bay up
in Canada by some Wheeling ships and that was the last time they were ever seen they were potentially seen by like
um Inuits later like native people of the the north but that's the last time
they were seen by Europeans the first winter of 1845 to 46 they spent the
winter in the Arctic of beachy Island their three members of the crew died and
they're the ones who were buried on beachy Island and that's what this book is about that I have this kids book because they were able to dig up those
bodies and they're really really well preserved because of the ice so um Owen
Bey and John Gagner are archaeologists who went in the 80s and they found these these Graves and they dug them up they
were like really really well taken care of they had beautiful like metal plates that had their their name and their age
one of the guys you know they were like 20-year-old kids you know who who had died somehow during this first winter
and um I'll send I'll take pictures of this book because you can like you know really see their faces in the um it's
terrifying it's absolutely terrifying it's actually ter let me show you the other guys since I showed you that guy there's this guy who looks like a
pirate good God wait that's his body yeah dude what
the [ __ ] he was found him like 140 years later yeah cuz of the Ice open mouth
screaming oh my God that is not good put him back
they did put them back they did put them back um but they did test on them and they found some things um in their in
their body and some potential reasons why they died so early and why other people on the on the boat might have
died so some of the things that they might have had is one thing is scurvy so have you heard of scurvy yes that's why
you have to have oranges yeah or like lemons or anything with vitamin C so scurvy is if you're vitamin C deficient
it doesn't really happen anymore because people you know aren't like on ships for you know two years
without any fresh food fresh fruit really um I always joke with my daughter that she's going to get it because she doesn't eat any fruits but I'm like you
know scy um what it does is your gums start to bleed so you have weak and
bleeding gums your tooth teeth will start to fall out you'll start getting really tired your joints will hurt
you'll have skin problems the skin becomes dry there's a lot of like um like red sordes underneath your skin um
cuz your skin is bleeding like from the inside when you have scurvy um you also get um can get anemia so you're very
weak you're very pale um your wounds don't heal anymore because vitamin C creates the collagen that heals wounds
um and also it creates mood changes so it can you can become really irritable depressed um and sad but obviously also
because like your teeth are falling out and you're really sick so like right of course that totally makes sense you don't have scurby because you're having
a good day right you're not like super I'm super happy I just have scurby no big job like no it's a big deal you're probably pissed off um so the 100% had
scurvy something else that they definitely had was lead poisoning so the tin food that they got like I said it
was made really quickly and the way it was made is it was like a tin and then it was soldered with lead around the
outside but some of it that people had like seen was like it was soldered
really quickly and really poorly so there would be like lead dripping down the sides of it you know what I mean like it' be hard but like they just they
didn't like a lot of it and done it really quickly so so it must have gotten into the food and effectively poisoned
to the food so another thing that I like don't understand but kind of like understand
technically but to understand really is how canning works and preserving food
you know I don't know how it works either so like when I you have to cook it don't you so yeah so a long time ago
I bought all the stuff to do canning and I took a class like a canning course at like the New York Culinary Institute
because you could take like oneoff classes I remember I was standing on the subway it was super crowded and I had this like box full of hot jars and I was
like please somebody let me sit down and like someone fin let me sit down but I was like oh my God like I could have get a cab but um you have to like heat up
the container you're putting it in the food has to be hot you like put it in there you put like brine on top of it
which is like salty things that like keep it good for like pickling things and then you have to close it and then
you put it into like boiling water and that that's what like pops and seals it which is why when you open pickle jars
or something they pop you know it pops down to to be
sealed um but it kills and activates microorganisms enzymes and yeasts and it
destroys those agents so that they can't grow so the food will stay good for a certain amount of time um you can also
put it into an immediately seal it in a container as long as it doesn't get any more oxygen in it it should be okay
because you don't want oxygen is like what makes the microorganisms grow um you can also like do things like you
know you can obviously like dry dry food to preserve it you can have something
like sit in in salt or in um like acid or sugar which is like jams and jellies
like you put like a lot of sugar with like fruits and then you put it in the hot can and then that's what like keeps
it and like locks it down um but they had just sort of figured that out like
during this time it was brand new and it was exciting cuz you could have food for a really long time but also it was like prone to ER cuz it was new you know
right you can yeah you probably also like consuming lead probably isn't a good
thing yeah exactly they're welding it with lead which sounds like they are they are definitely in this case so
the man on the ter in the arabus probably also had blood poisoning the symptoms of blood poisoning are you know
gastroint intestinal issues nausea vomiting pain fatigue and weakness
anemia so like this is on top of the scurvy you know like they're having all these things happen a lot of them were the same but another thing it um there's
behavioral changes and headaches confusion memory problems irritability so everyone was probably like not only
freezing but like really messed up you know like an angry confused angry confused exactly so like there could
have been and like the book that's based on a the movie the show sorry the show is based on like the book they're like
presupposing a lot of things but some of it is like you know people somebody probably went crazy of course were fight
you know all sorts of things were happening um worst cases you get kidney damage seizures you go into a coma and
you die so all this would have started happening that that first winter also
the winter itself sounds terrible it's dark for 10 months or the whole winter
or maybe it's not 10 months maybe like five months struck the entire time the boat is stuck in the ice and they do
things like they have to go and up on the deck and like walk Laps on the deck because otherwise like they're going to
like their muscles are going to like die because they're not moving you know they have to like move around do all these
things so it sounds absolutely terrible um in the summer of 1846 they headed back south into a different part of
Canada called peel sound and they were stuck on the ice in um let's see
September 1846 to the spring 1848 they were stuck in the ice on King William Island in in up in Canada what this last
time when they got stuck so this this is their second winter um they set up camp around the ships which wasn't totally clear on the show but like set up camps
they had like little stores little places where you could like do the laundry get stuff done um they would
pack snow up against the ship to keep it warm and like warm is relative they're like trying to like insulate it the ship
was also probably tilted so this is something that happens in the show that I think is really like jarring is like
it's tilted you know even if even if your house is tilted like a foot you know like they're still in it like
sitting around these tables and like walking through these doorways and it's all tilted I feel like that would drive you crazy after a couple yeah so back in the day when I
was living in La we used to go on like these uh the open houses and stuff and everything in La had Foundation problems
so you'd walk in you're like I need to vomit like I don't know why but I have to vomit it's it's your your
equilibriums it's like your brain understands something but you don't understand what it gets which is like
you're on uneven footing and you're like on your side it's really not a good way to live totally it's crazy it's really
like it's really jarring so that was happening lot to them is too as well so we know this so we know that that was
happening because in May of 1847 some of the men like went went for a walk and
they found this thing called the K which is like a pile of rocks where you like put notes in it for future people to
like get like a little kind of like a mailbox that you assume El it's stacked
rocks isn't it that's what a k is yeah yeah exactly so first they wrot they
wrote the note on pre-printed paper and the paper was pre-printed with the words
whoever finds this paper is requested to forward it to the Secretary of the admiralty London with a note of the time
and place at which it was found or if more convenient to deliver it for that purpose to the British Council at the nearest port and then it had the same
thing written again in French Spanish Dutch Danish and German so anybody who like would happen to find it would see
that and then on that note they wrote by the 208th of May 1847 the ships are at
you know this latitude and longitud longitude we did that winter in be island that's how we know that was true
and then they ascended the Willington Channel and returned to the west side of Cornwall Island Sir John Franklin
commanding the Expedition all is well and they said the people leaving this note are two officers and six men um
Lieutenant Gore Chaz dvo and a mate so that was on May 24th 1847 they left that
note that was like everything is fine and then they went back to their ships something happened quickly after because
the second note that was left there said okay let me turn this so we know
that right after this this was May 1847 we know that on June 11th 1847 Sir John
Franklin died he was the the main Captain we know he died that day we don't know how um they've been stuck on
the island King williiam Island for over a year and a half and we know that
because the second letter that a year and a half so they left this by that time you
have like summer comes around the snow melts you can hunt for game not like
it's not like summer summer like it just didn't they couldn't get out they were stuck stuck it is pretty far north okay
and we don't know exactly what happened you know like we don't know exactly like something else could have happened like we really don't know um because
other on the map is further north than the northst part of
Antarctica yeah so it's got to be cold in the summer too yeah it's never gets
it's never warm even when it's sunny it's freezing um the so we know a little bit of those
things because the second letter was written on that same piece of paper in the K so they went back to it took that paper out and wrote on it on 25th of
April 1848 they wrote The Terror and the aabus were deserted on the 20 on the
22nd of April five leagues Northwest of this having been beset since the 12th of September
1846 the officers and crew consisting of 105 Souls under under the command of
Captain F frm Crower landed here this paper was found by Lieutenant Irving under the under the C supposed to have V
by Sir James Ross blah blah blah so they pretty in there they also said Sir James Ross's pillar has not been found the
paper has been transferred to this position and whatever it say Sir Franklin died on the 11th of June 1847
and the total loss by deaths to the Expedition up to this date nine officers and 15 men James James captain and
Captain crer signed it and said we're starting on tomorrow the 26th for backs Fish River so basically that second part
of the note written on top of the old note was like actually we've been stuck for a year and a half our captain is
dead we've lost this many people we've abandoned our ships and now we're walking to this river is what it says
now so that's it we never heard from them again there's no no written record we don't have any Captain's logs we have
nothing else from the ship we only know those those two things Lady Jane Franklin the wife of the Captain
Franklin raised a lot of money to help find them but they never did there were a bunch of other
um kind of like search parties to go find them there was one by John Ray in
1854 um he obtained information from Inuit sources that they had seen the men
walking and pulling boats but they don't have any um any proof of that so they
just like they thought they had done that in 1854 they were officially declared dead so that they could like
move on with legal things between 1847 and 1880 more than 30 ex Expeditions sailed
to try to find them and try to continue to find the passage but they never found them um there was in 1859 um one party led by Lieutenant
William Hobson he discovered some bodies around like a Lifeboat and
in the Lifeboat there were two skeletons and some relics from the Expedition so in the boat there was a lot of equipment
there were a lot of books handkerchiefs scented soap sponges slippers hair combs and many books so like the stuff that
they were bringing with them they brought with them with the Lifeboat and I just want to say don't bring work
stuff with you if there's an emergency just leave yeah I was goingon to say the com who was the comb for yeah I don't
know it was like part of their like stuff that they were going to like give to people when they landed somewhere but like you don't that you know what I mean
they were looking for things to trade yeah but like if you're like walking for your life like don't bring stuff like if
you're in a tall building like I used to work on the 37th floor of a building and then the fire department would come and to do like our test things and they'd be
like okay well if there's a fire the next safest floor is 35 so you can stay on 35 and this is a fireproof floor and
I'm like go [ __ ] yourself I'm going outside and walking as far away from this goddamn building as I can you know
like you have fireproof floors yeah that's [ __ ] absolutely not and I think that that's what happened to I
imagine this is terrible but like I'm sure on September 11th people were like afraid to leave cuz thought they might
get in trouble you know or like confused and like listening to someone at work who doesn't know what's going on and
just like saying things and I know like one group like went down and they had them go back up they're Oh no you're safer in the building go back up you
know what I mean like oh my God just leave like if there's my dad was like afterwards after September 11th my dad
was like leave if anything's ever wrong you run as far away as possible you know so that's my my thing for everybody to
know um so then in the 1980s um you know this
person who wrote This Book buried in ice he did a big um found those couple bodies he thought also it could have
been the water on the boat that contained lead but there was definitely lead poisoning um some of the bones had
Cuts in them like they were eaten which like totally makes sense absolutely people if you're if that's happening the
men likely abandoned the ships and just started walking you know and and we never know we'll never know exactly what
happened during that year and a half we don't know what happened I started walking but they're gone gone to the wind um in 2008 the um Parks Canada
declared it a historic site even though they didn't know where the boats were they were like as soon as we find them they're ours like they're historic sites
like do not plunder do not take them we want them um on September 1st 2014 they
found part of the boat so they started to keep looking Inland and they found the arabus on September 2nd
2014 167 years after it disappeared crazy yeah and then it's it's it's sunk
you know it's on the bottom and so they're using like underwater archaeology to to get it and like they found cool things like beautiful plates
and like those things I don't I can't remember what they're called but you know those things that go on your shoulder like like this and then you they have like
tassels thing right yeah yeah so like they found those things because I think
I think this part of the show if you ever watch it does make a lot of sense like it's still very formal like you're still at work you know even though
you're like trapped in this thing there's like a very clear chain of command you know people are just trying to like get through the day like all
these things are happening they still still at work so they found some cool things like that two years later 2016
they found the terror they found the terror 45 miles away from the Aus which is really weird and so like I don't they
don't really know what happened like could the terror have like gone further maybe because it like um someone tried
to move it further did the ice melt enough that it drifted 45 miles away and then froze again
yeah that's what it sounds like to me because it sounds like they left like because there were no like bodies on the teror but also they'd be gone because
it's been that long so I guess we don't know um so they obviously did not find
the Northwest Passage but in 1903 Norwegian
Explorer Roland adminon he actually did navigate the entire Northwest Passage in
1944 Canadian Royal Mounted Police Officer and Explorer Henry Larson um
sell sailed it from west to east so they had done it and now guess what it's pretty easy because the ice caps are
melting oh dude that's awesome so good news for anyone who wants to sail across
the Northwest Passage it is now available because the world is ending so congratulations you just jet ski through
that place exactly exactly so there a little bit of a continuation on ghost ships even though the ship is like
they're they're sunk but like there's definitely ghosts of these d is dragging around a Lifeboat with full of like
furniture and [ __ ] with their toes frostbitten off trudging through the
Arctic for eternity you what you know what occurred to me is that like if me and you like
just me and you or ever in a predicament where we're stuck with no food or
supplies no hope of rescue even the amount of times we talk about eating
people I could totally see us like it's like the first tonight and I'm like
she's talked about killing and eating you she knows you've talked about
killing her you can hear me like knife sh knife sharpening yeah it's it's like what are you what are you doing Taylor
and I'm just like I'm on the side there working on my axe just there's like a really a fun fun and
F it can be Stephen King short story about a doctor who like thinks he's great and he's like I'm really smart
blah blah blah for whatever reason he gets um Shipwrecked on the side of a like Island and he starts eating himself
piece by piece so he like eats with foot and then he like eats his whole leg and then he's like someone's going to find me by the end he's like just like one
arm and like a torso but because he's like eating most of himself and like you know it's presumed that no one finds him
and all that but yeah I feel like we could start with like I don't know how which arm do you like the least let take
that well it's like it's like cannibal the um the musical where it's like we
you're you're discovered but you're discovered like after like 17 hours and you're like just like plump and like
eating like ro road tising a leg you're like where's fars like I I don't know I don't know what happened with other guys
like it hasn't been that long you were hungry already what's going on totally see it happening um
that's I love a mystery I love a mystery of the Seas and it'd be cool if we ever found like a note of what happened there
but probably what happened there was probably like very boring they just like tried to exercise tried to eat try to survive for those so you would not
recommend watching it you know I think I don't know I I don't know because Jay
really loved it and the reviews are great the reviews are like it's magical and wonderful so I feel like Jay likes
Jay likes heady stuff yeah it's pretty headyy like I just I'd rather watch like I feel like I could watch it with like I
just I like seeing the ships I like because I love oh you know what also was confusing for me this is what I meant to say I'm also watching our flag means
death have you seen that no you've told me to watch that too it's so good and it's about Blackbeard and um and Captain
Ste and it's with um te Y and Rees something the guy the new I'd be into it
they're fantastic it's so good but like it's very similar time period right so it's like the boats look exactly the
same but it's like 10 times more fun than the show of the terrorist I was like kind of getting them confused in like a weird way but also like judging
them against each other and being like of course i' rather watch this like funny show about Pirates then like this like melodramatic show that isn't really
telling me that much so maybe that was part of it too you ever see the sound of
metal I don't think so it was about this metal musician who
like goes death and then it's just like a sad just and then Jay was like oh my
God it's so great it's great like of course you would like that's all about like feelings and [ __ ] he also makes a
lot of fun it's so funny like the first question on sound of metal is what was the point of sound of
metal anyway exactly um I don't know I don't know I don't say don't watch it I've never watch it
because it's cool um and scary to like have visualized visualizations like one
thing that they have that I'm sure they had was like an ice hole and one of the guys dies from falling down this ice
hole and it's like you know a 12 foot hole into the ice like fish through or whatever if you fall in that hole you're
dead that's scary and that's scary you know stuff like that was kind of scary and and then like the doctor stuff is always fun CU like everyone's getting
their like gang gangrenous legs cut off and you're like he's like maybe I'll try
this herb on your scurvy you know and you're like okay it sucks I'll go with it
um well we are we're definitely setting ourselves up for expanding our Network
Beyond Doom to fail into a production company where one can direct our horror guft Tri movie he doesn't want to direct
but he would probably have a lot of opinions on it anyway the sound of
Haunting I mean man if if anyone ever really sees a ghost ship
it sounds awesome I'm sure the teror it's ghost shipping out there as well um in full in full mased and all that when
you look up haunted Lakes like you said I don't even know if it was this episode of the one before whatever it was
there's one Lake I think it's in Georgia that sounds [ __ ] terrifying it was a
lake that was basically like one of the first like self- settled entirely black
communities in America where they had like their own Banks and grow like it was it was a real City and
then some other white neighborhood wanted like a lake and that was the
closest Valley to where that neighborhood was and so without warning they basically broke dams and flooded
this entire so now there's literally L literally houses underneath you is it is
[ __ ] scar I'm going to look this up it's actually a great horror movie that I watched about a town like that and it
was obviously like a horror movie but it was really creepy but like yeah they went like walked to the streets and there were like bikes on the ground and
like houses and stuff Lake laner 200 people have died since
1994 whoa and you look up oh yeah again it
was like a real town so like it hold on Lake um so like there's like [ __ ]
people bought buried there right so there's actually graveyard underneath your it is so scary oh my God like they
try to make it nice and they're like it was built by the Army Corps of Engineers
and you're like uh yeah but I already know that you kill people oh you can live there
now so creep oh it's so scary like how when um when they when Lake me started to
lose um water because I know bodies tons of dead bodies and like tractors and
stuff down there that's really really scary uh that's terrible should Peele
what's his name um Jordan Peele Jordan Peele Jordan Peele totally [ __ ] do this movie oh my God that'd be
amazing anyways um Taylor very fun very fun yeah story uh you did not convince
me to watch the show but it does I didn't but I think you should get this children's book because it's so good we
should I was like reading it at soccer practice I'm like am I am I a normal person I'm reading this children's book
about this this lost sh the soccer practice can you post that
[ __ ] the book in our Channel or in our um insta yeah yeah yeah I'll take
pictures of it especially these pictures of these like guys as these like um
these dead bodies they're crazy cuz like you know if if you're buried in the ice which we know oh this is a Medicine
Chest found abandoned by that boat I'll take a picture of this too but look it's got like little jars of stuff in it
which is kind of fun you know you're like L this powder maybe we'll help you maybe it's cocaine you know whatever
whatever they thought you could have in 1845 the way those bodies were preserved is absolutely [ __ ] terrifying it's
terrifying because like their their back dud their eyes are there oh my God I'm
gonna stop looking I got to stop looking at that it's a lot I I don't know why did I why did my mother buy me this when I was a child and why did I buy
seriously also why is it even called the child's book like it is so scary it's from the it's from the time Quest book
by Scholastic and Time Magazine anyway any way recommend read to your children
to scare them at night yeah you can also find autopsy pictures of Jeffrey dummer's victims if you want to read
that to your kids so which is kind of similar to this book that Killer's holding up can I tell you that sometimes Florence just wants to look at pictures
of dead animals and so we'll give her our phone and she'll Google de animals and just look up at pictures of like bloody
animals we got to address that one day I think she's fine I think she's just like naturally curious he would to be me be a
veterinarian well will we'll talk about that in about 15 years yeah she'll talk
about that in therapy she'll unpack that later um sweet is there anything you want to share with folks before we cut
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