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Ep 6 - Part 1: Officer Black Widower - The Story of Drew Peterson

Episode Summary

Today, we are re-releasing Episode 6, Part 1 - the terrible story of Drew Peterson and his wives. Having ex-spouses isn't a red flag; stuff happens, nbd. Having several missing ex-spouses is never a good sign. Drew Peterson isn't the only Peterson we cover who murders their wives, so you can check our archives for that one (it's Scott). Stay safe out there, friends! Remember, there are dozens of fish in the sea! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod   Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod  Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com

Episode Notes

Today, we are re-releasing Episode 6, Part 1 - the terrible story of Drew Peterson and his wives. Having ex-spouses isn't a red flag; stuff happens, nbd. Having several missing ex-spouses is never a good sign. Drew Peterson isn't the only Peterson we cover who murders their wives, so you can check our archives for that one (it's Scott).  

Stay safe out there, friends! Remember, there are dozens of fish in the sea!

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Episode Transcription

Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor

hey friends it's Taylor from DOOMED TO FAIL  today we are re re-releasing episode 6 part one on Drew Peterson so

you might confuse this Peterson with other men whose last name is Peterson who've murdered their wives and this one

is pretty wild I wanted to just mention how we Advocate again for not killing

your spouse you can just leave and also we are a podcast where we do try to think about red flags and a red flag

here is definitely if your spouse or your future spouse has several missing

spouses um something is wrong and you should get out of there as as soon as

possible um there are dozens of other fish in the sea so enjoy this story and

I will see you on the other side a matter of the people of State of California versus orthal James Simpson

case number ba09 and so my fellow Americans ask not what your country can

do for you ask what you can do for your [Music]

country and we are recording [Music] okay welcome to Doom to fail the podcast

where I consistently test Taylor's patience with me I'm joined here by my co-host Taylor hi Taylor how are you

doing today oh I'm good how are you I'm good I'm good and and I got to put a a

note on how I tested your patients we usually record these at 10: a.m. on Saturdays Central Time the last two

weeks I've had to push it back multiple times and Taylor's been very very accommodating and I want to thank her

and her family for being okay with that you're welcome mostly my family thank you Juan Carlos for not murdering me

yeah thank you one um so let's go ahead and start things off Taylor I see you

have a lovely new tattoo do you want to talk about it oh sure sure I just got a new tattoo with the Scorpion it is um it

was hand poked today um there's a woman here in Joshua Tree named Taylor and she

has her name's Taylor also and she has a place called love always tattoo shop and this is my second thing from her I also

got this dinosaur from her as well is hand poked a lot more painful because I

assume that it's more nuanced and detail is it more painful than normal no and I think the only I think well this is like

just an outline like you know intentionally a simple outline I think the worst thing is the shading of a

tattoo that's the part that hurts the most and there isn't any shading in this so nice it looks awesome it looks very

very cool thanks and my my M name is sterk and a sterk is a little tiny scorpion so like the spe it's a species

of a scorpion right sweet very cool did not know that when you told me that earlier this week

I I learned something new did not know that was a thing who would know that yeah yeah well so let's go ahead and

kick things off by figuring out what we're going to be drinking today Taylor do you want to maybe let us know what yours is and I'll let you know what mine

is yes so for mine mine is going to be a non-alcoholic drink but it's going to be

like a nice like spiced like chai Indian style tea so if you wanted to you know

pour yourself some tea um Brew some things we're going to go to India for my um for my portion today um but also

physically I'm not drinking tea cuz tea gives me a headache and whatever I'm drinking

champagne because um it's our anniversary it is it is it's a totally

normal thing to have a friendiversary with someone and um it's exciting cuz it's our 10year

friendiversary it's pretty cool we didn't even know what podcasts were 10 years ago and uh here we are so yeah

crazy yeah Taylor and I met 10 years ago at our last company in La we started on the first day part of the same cohort

and um yeah been been homies ever since ever since so my drink is Lefroy 10

it is uh scotch and the reason I have this cuz I'm actually going be drinking

it while I'm doing yeah you're you're holding it very aggressively which usually I don't drink

and do these but I'm goingon to do it this time and the reason I pick Scotch is because to me Scotch is a celebratory

drink um and so I'm celebrating one thing that's personal and then one thing that's related to our story the personal

side of it is being in Austin and with the ice storm that hit I'm one of the 30% of austinites that was without power

for about 3 or 4 days and I just got it back today and I was just absolutely elated to get it back as it relates to

our story again I'm celebrating that I'm not this guy that we're gonna talk about

he is so awful he's one of the worst people I've ever read about and researched and I just can't I'm so

thrilled that I'm just on him so awesome great I don't even know who it is yet but I'm also thrilled that you're not him because that sounds bad yeah so I'm

going to go ahead and I heard I heard it open that was nice yeah I'm going to go ahead and pour a little a finger or two

of scotch here in this um plastic cup it's also very bright side of you to be

like I'm grateful that my um lights are back and not like [ __ ] the Texas power

grid so I appreciate you half half full with that one yeah yeah it's it's been

it's been awful and you know it's funny because today it was it's 60° here so you don't you didn't wake up just

shaking in your in your bed and the the night two nights before was in the 30s and I was like really could have used

power those nights I really could instead of tonight but it's okay it's okay I'm just I'm thankful it's here and

I'm off to Florida tomorrow so all good things um so let's go ahead and dive into what my topic is so I'm going to be

discussing Drew Peterson you know who Drew Peterson is Right Taylor yes it's part of the

Peterson men murdering wives era of American True Crime yes but not related

to Petersons but like they were just Petersons totally unrelated but I feel like like I wasn't super in a true crime

when this went down with Drew so I think I personally confused the two together and I just didn't really care maybe it

was just like saturation of people killing their spouses and I just didn't really pay attention at the time and

also there wasn't much to the story as we're going to see I mean the the outline is extensive so there's a lot to

talk about but I'll explain why there wasn't all that much to the story when this

actually first came out um so to start things off I'm going to

say I guess what might be a controversial opinion okay I'm not anti-

police personally totally okay so I have not had many negative interactions with

the police and I'm totally aware that that's not everyone's experience I see the news I pay attention what's going on um I understand that these people have

impossible jobs very little salary incredibly high stakes it's kind of like teachers and professions like that where

it's kind of like a thankless job and your ability to scrip is incredibly High I I have that framing in my mind and I'm

totally aware that there's like really shitty versions of these people that are out there but just as a general thing

I'm just going to start at the top that I'm not anti-cop I'm prefacing that because I

also think there's another category that I don't know if anybody's ever coined before that I just thought of when I was

drafting this outline you tell me if you've ever heard of this cop bro is that a thing oh no but I know exactly

what you're were talking about it's the George Zimmerman types that relish

power without the ability to harness it and use it productively and constructively so I'm quinting the

phrase if it hasn't been done before if it has let me know and I'll give you credit somewhere in the notes but

c yeah and we are talking about cop BR today because Drew Peterson his entire

career was in law enforcement and so everything I said about police take that

out of the equation here because that is not who we're talking about here so totally oh wait can I say something real

fast please did you watch Brooklyn 99 yeah um I loved how they handled

everything post coid post you know George Floyd all of these terrible

things happening with the police I don't know if you got that far in the series but they hand it hand it really really

well yeah so um spoiler alert Rosa um one of the cops she ends up leaving

because she doesn't want to be associated with the police force anymore um and so they talk about it and like they really like talk about her decision

and how hard it was for her because she loved being a police officer but she just didn't agree with the way that you know America was going with their police

force and all these things and um I don't know they really like they wrapped up the series really beautifully in a time when it was like a real hard

anti-cop time Rosa was a character so the character would wanted to exit the

show yeah no yeah yeah the character she like she's still in the show it's only the last season that that this happens

but she just she quits the working in the police department and talks a lot about how like a as a like Latino Latino

woman she can't um continue to to work for the police force that's interesting they did a good job they didn't ignore

it that's awesome that's very cool um so yeah like I said we're going to be discussing Drew Peterson today uh I'll

start by saying if you're a woman you do not want to be married to Drew he is a

unique brand of sociopath and then we're going to get into a bit of his background here so like I said earlier

Drew's background is entirely in law enforcement he had a 30-year career as a police officer and later a sergeant in a

suburb of Chicago called Bowling Brook I look this town up it looks idyllic not

celebration idyllic it looks sensible idic like it's a normal small town Vibe

I I'm from I'm from Libertyville which is a very similar town in of a suburb of Chicago I'm yes you're from a suburb of

Chicago I'm from Libertyville Illinois I live there till I was 13 then I moved to

Las Vegas yeah I was goingon to say I thought you were always from Las Vegas 10 years that little nugget of

Taylor tribia comes out there there's still so much to learn so much to learn and I found another interesting thing

about Bowling Brook was that the income level was high it was somewhere around 107,000 I didn't write it down in the

outline but it was above the national average so this is we're talking about a

relatively sleepy Town despite the fact that it's in a Chicago suburb so just like frame that as like that's where

this guy is trying to enforce the law there's not much going on and this is me

just projecting if I was him I'd be bored out of my mind maybe like the way he turned into a sociopath was he like I'm so

tired of writing tickets for like parallel parking in the wrong spot and then he went down this horrible um

rabbit hole that he ended up down so he retired in 2007 and was given a pretty nice pension about 60

67,000 or so a year which is awesome great yeah free money so that's his

professional background not much more detail we need to go into there apparently he wasn't a terrible cop he did have actually one and only one

misconduct allegation and that was only for running police searches for fun rather than for work reasons and then

later on somebody else said we all do that we all we all like if we're trying to see what our in-laws are up to we'll

run back it was a common thing oh sure sure sure sure sure okay okay not like going into someone's house and being like I'm going to go through your

drawers so being like I'm going to look up on the computer if you have any felonies exactly exactly that sure like

like I was talking to someone today about how um if you give give me your address I'm GNA Zillow your house like

100% for any reason I will Zill your house I want to see how much you spent on it I want to see the last time it was sold I want your square footage on the

whole thing the rent estimate all of it I love how thorough you are I get I get it so let's start with our red flags

Drew's relationships I I promise I'm not picking these types I'm just picking

stories that I find interesting and the fact that there's a lot of marriages involved is just ANS slur to that Taylor

how many marriages do you think Drew had three four four okay almost five

actually oh okay he was engaged a fifth time predictably he was crushing it on

both ends of marriage and divorce his first wife Carol Brown was his high school sweetheart they married in 1974

and divorce once it came to light that Drew was cheating okay he had two kids one of whom Stephen is somewhat relevant

later on in this story so we can forget the other kids marriage number two was to Vicki

Connelly they stayed married for 10 years and Vicky had reported domestic violence against Drew before Oh later

once the facts of what we're going to be discussing later came to light she alleges that Drew threatened to kill her

make it look like an accident they divorced and their divorce

was finalized in 1992 okay marriage number three is where things take a

darker turn an escalation turn all right I yeah I think that's kind of

what's going on here is like he's just slowly inching his way into being more and more abusive there's like something about this in the story we told like two

weeks ago around like how the older men get the more they start becoming crazy

and I guess maybe that's an indication of this so marriage number three is to Kathleen Salvo they got married just a few months

after the divorce from Vicki so again I would say it's a red flag right yeah and

it must have been really hard for Vicki to accuse him of that if he's a cop

right yeah like I don't know who you would go to where you'd feel safe making that accusation because we'll we'll

learn later on that the COO culture in this story comes out later on so yeah

that that had to be that's a that's actually a really really good point I didn't put it in here but that's that's a that's a good um point they I'm going

to have to cut it out the fact that I'm saying points so many times I think well keep keep the partner

tell me I did a good job that I'll keep that in okay so I put down here that I

don't care who you are if someone just got out of an extremely long-term and

serious relationship and it doesn't matter what they tell you they are not ready to get married I just don't think

that humans are wired like that right and like why we've talked about this before like you can date people you can

live together whatever you know like marriage is so much paperwork like why

do that he just insisted on constantly marrying these women I don't yeah what do you make of that like why yeah

actually again another good point Taylor why does someone just keep getting married over and over like this I don't

know I mean I can't even imagine like having to move out of my house and like divide myself up again that sounds

exhausting and to do that like three times's like that just doesn't make any sense like I feel like it has to be like

we talked about with like Henry VI a and the tutors and why you couldn't get divorced it has to be just like I want

to have legal control over you did that did you hear that no what

was it um Matt Lane just texted me and it

audibly sounded so I need to mute that I didn't hear it at all yeah I don't totally so we'll learn

later on that Drew actually didn't have that problem of having to follow paperwork and yeah he he actually found

another way around that oh did yeah yeah he's a creative creative type so in March of

2004 Kathleen died under suspicious circumstances she was found in a bathtub

and her death was ruled in accidental drowning just keep cop bro in the back

of your mind yeah and this is kind of where the shenanigans start Taylor Taylor do you remember any part of this

case because I only remember it because it was part of like an investigation discovery thing and I always turn that

channel on when I have a chance I feel like we're I feel like the part I remember that is going to come in the

future is it involves does it involve his daughter-in-law in some way it does not doesn't okay then I don't know okay

yeah so the bathtub she was found in was dry

and contained no water oh my God apparently her cause of death was

decided on by what's called a coroners jury which I've never heard of this before I thought that when someone dies

they just go to a corner and they do what they do to identify the cause of death in this case in some jurisdictions

in in this jurisdiction in particular a jury they are the ones who decide the cause of death I I suppose I don't I

didn't get super In The Weeds on this but I suppose what it is is that somebody does like an investigation into like the body and then they send off the

report to this group of or 12 and they make a determination on what the ca of death was wait are they like are they

professionally able to make the distinction because it feels like science should be involved I will dive way deep into that

in a second okay like I like a scientist to think about my cause of death and not like really you don't want Coop Ro to do

it no I like an actual like a really good scientist ah you're gonna be disappointed then so that's where things are Kathleen

is found in a dry bathtub ruled an accidental death by drowning

and that's where thing stands stand and Drew just moves on okay okay okay we're

we're now on to wife number four her name is Stacy an kale you're gonna keep finding patterns

in my stories here's another red flag at the time they married Drew was 49 guess

how old Stacy was 22 19 oh no 30 years

God like what do you have in common with a 19- when you're 49 19 is too young to

get married for most people anyway like in any way shape or formed yeah yeah and

they ended up having two kids and she actually even adopted Kathleen's kids and raised them like they were her own

and by all accounts Stacy was a very sweet woman and mother in late October of 2007 Stacy was

reported missing by her sister Cassandra Drew claims that Stacy this is so stupid

Drew claims that Stacy called him and said she's leaving him for another man and that was it that's itung up yeah

like I don't know what happened to Stacy she just called me and said she's leave me for somebody else and she left her kids there and all that

yeah and that's all we know Stacy is still missing in presumed dead I've been

researching this to figure out like has anything at all come out in the year I mean this is I mean oh I'm going to do

math again in 2007 to 2023 that's

six plus 16 years right 16 yeah

yeah that's great job great job that's 16 years of absolutely nothing coming

out about what happened to this this woman so she's presumed dead obviously

and Drew is not saying anything to anybody we do have some details that seem relevant so a friend of Drews told

police that he and Drew bought three blue plastic barrels sometime around 2003 for a job they were contracted to

do this is totally 55 gallon blue drum Jeffrey dmer Vibes right yeah yeah yeah

great Drew's stepbrother wait okay keep going I'm like I when you said that I'm

like oh but he's a cop so what does he mean what a job he has to do like a home construction job I guess yeah he was he

was contracted out like as a side hustle to like do odd jobs around town yeah

Drew's stepbrother attempted suicide two days after helping Drew carry one of

these containers and he later said he feared to contain Stacy's body in

it so that's where things stand with that but again that's basically all we

have at this point I think the police may have done some covering up of things but who really knows it's worth noting

that none of that slowed Drew down a year after Stacy's disappearance he got

engaged to a 23-year-old woman named Christina

yeah now he's like 50 something yeah yeah how did he meet her at like a

singles event like where do you meet these people so I know with one of his earlier wives they actually started a

bar together while he was still a cop and so I assume she ran it or or something maybe he held on to it so maybe like that's where I don't know I

don't know how I don't know how you organically run into a 23y old when you're in your 50s dog parks maybe that

I don't know we'll talk about that this week on dating fars in Austin lovely uh

luckily Christina's dad had a ton of sense and basically forced her to break things off and move out of Drew's house

so like it was basically like an ultimatum like you're not doing this because at this point I would assume

that there was news stories popping up around this guy yeah totally and weren't all the kids there

were there a bunch of kids there yeah I actually don't know where the kids were because the first two kids would have

been old enough to have moved on by then it would have been way past 18 years old but I don't know about the youngest

two so let's Circle back to Kathleen's cause of death after Stacy went missing

Kathleen's body was exhumed in a forensic forensic examination was conducted when I read this Taylor I

thought back to our first episode and you pointing out the great fact that if you kill someone and you control what

happens to their body just cremate the body yeah for real why don't you get rid of that evidence yeah be smart

people the conclusions were that she had in fact died by drowning but it wasn't an accident there had been a struggle

and she was later placed in the bathtub because of course she was they showed up in to a drowning and she's totally dry

and there's no no water in the tub what did she drown in then we don't know we don't know what happened okay but we

know that she had bruising on her back her torso her face there was a gash on her scalp oh my God God at which point

that death was then classified as a homicide in 2009 Drew is actually

finally indicted for a murder this murder in particular Kathleen's again don't know anything about Stacy this is

just for Kathleen but it's interesting that like that is what spiral

impromptus legal procedure wait what did I read here

yeah I got it from direct from law school yeah

right this whatever say Yeah in 2009 Drew was indicted for Kathleen's murder

because there's no direct evidence of what happened to Stacy there's a curious legal procedure thing that the prosecution started to do so generally

speaking hear say evidence I someone told me this thing happened isn't allowed except for certain circumstances

because the whole point of American Justice is you have a right to question your accuser but if the person's not

there you're just saying here's what they said you don't have that right there was such hearsay in this

case where it should not have been allowed and it wasn't but the hearsay

was something along the lines of Drew told me he killed his wives Illinois the state legislator the

state legislation really wanted this guy in jail so they passed a law just for him called Drew's

law which allows this kind of hearsay evidence to be admissible basically yeah

it's like ghost testimony and they're saying like [ __ ] you you're guilty also and made this law after you because

that's how much we believe that you're guilty yeah exactly so yeah this law basically

allows the hearsay of a dead witness as long as the prosecution can prove they were killed to prevent that testimony

cool yeah so also it's funny because I feel like every episode I say we're not a legal procedure show and then I go

into legal procedure so well I mean also I mean it's it's relevant you did go you did spend like a million dollars to go

to law school so you got to use that money somewhere and you'll use it here

so paying off congratulations yeah lucky me so ultimately Drew was found guilty

of Kathleen's death the jurors did say that Drew law testimony is basically

what swaye them so good on the state legislators for taking quick action yeah he was ultimately

sentenced to 38 years which is where he he's at he's in jail right now

apparently got his ass kicked in jail like his first like couple of days or week there and so they ended up having to transfer somewhere different I think

the last I read he was somewhere in Michigan or Indiana I can't remember exactly where but he's just bouncing around right because he's a cop who's in

jail yeah and I like that's not good yeah and I I mean he kind of killed like

almost kids yeah no he killed like young women and like why did he did he is he still

think he's does he still say he's innocent oh yeah yeah he see I really didn't want it to turn this super legal

procedurally but a large part of this case is everything that happened after

he's convicted which is just like the multiples of appeals that were run and everything else and so like that's the

state that it's at right now he's constantly appealing it he's constantly losing appeal after appeal and hopefully that's I'm going to get into another

piece like he is definitely going to rot in jail forever so I wrote down a subcategory here called other

gross weird [ __ ] nice and he's so gross

like he's such a disgusting human being in 2009 so after he like he like tried

to turn this into his 15 minutes of fame the fact that his wife was dead I don't know if you saw videos of this guy you

should look at up you should because there's there's videos of him like he's just like smiling at the camera like a

huge gr like he is Overjoyed that people are paying attention to him in this way

that he's being photographed like he thinks that this is like that this makes him cool or more

desirable or something I don't I don't know how to describe it it's just it's just he's too happy and I don't I don't

know if he understands the gravitas of what's going on or he just thinks hey I I mean he kind of committed the perfect

crime right his first wife they said it's accidental the second one we still don't know where her body is so maybe he was just like so happy with himself and

pleased with himself that's why he's grinning ear to ear in every one of these pictures so are you are you looking at

his picture up yeah is that Rob low that plays him in like the Lifetime movie yeah I think so nice yeah that's like

pretty good cast pretty good yeah I mean obviously brao is much more handsome but they make him look less handsome it's

pretty funny yeah so one thing that he did that was so gross we're going to talk about his

lawyer in a little bit he and his lawyer went on a talk show like a a Morning

Show radio morning show with this guy who just kept making fun of Drew Peterson about how like obviously guilty

he was and his lawyer suggested that the host do a dating game segment with Drew

where women can call in and who wants to win a date with Drew what yeah and did they call in no

this radio host had enough sense to say that's in incredibly bad taste we're definitely not going to do that I

definitely read something today that already women are writing to that like um the Iowa Idaho murderer guy and being

like I love him he's perfect because people write to like convict somehow wait who who is that guy the guy who

just killed all those like um college kids in that place I oh my God that's so already women are like what go to a bar

find a do that hasn't killed someone yeah I just don't think it's that hard Mo most people your your odds are

better to find someone that hasn't killed someone I hope so I think so so another curiosity here is he's so

stupid too in 2015 so this is after he's convicted and he's in jail for 38 years

he tried to hire someone to kill the prosecutor in his

trial it's impossible to hire someone you no one no one is a contracted killer

there's never been one but think about that like if he had done like assume he

had done this and and he gotten away with it he's still in jail they're not going to overturn a conviction because a prosecutor's dead

yeah right that's not like what's the end of that just to kill him because he's mad yeah g yeah and then so he did this

in 2015 in 2016 he goes to trial for for this and this is the part that like I

don't totally get he had 40 years for this maybe because it's like a state government worker or something attempted

to kill one of them might have carry more weight than definitely wife yeah I

don't totally get that math but yeah he was he they tacked on another 40 years

wow yeah so his lawyer this guy he's such an idiot again I'm drinking Scotch

because I'm so glad that I'm not this guy his lawyer apparently says he knows exactly where Stacy is

[ __ ] so his lawyer apparently knows or he says he knows where Stacy's body is

he knows he's been stated as saying he knows everything but that communication

is protected by attorney client privilege because there's no harm to be done now she's already dead so there's

there's no there's no way that he could break that e and disclose it it's worth

noting though that he actually lost his law license for like totally unrelated reasons to Drew

Peterson yeah go ahead I don't understand yeah well so it

doesn't matter that he lost his license later on like the communication that was had was done earlier than that and so that's why it's protected and in

addition to that he's actually under a court order under a gag order to not disclose anything so if he does he's

basically going to yeah would probably be held in contempt of court at this point and he

could probably be sued by Drew Peterson but who cares at this point so but what about Stacy's family like don't they

deserve to know where she is they the victims yeah yeah but like but in this case you know this this

super supercedes that the attorney client privilege wow yeah so I mentioned

Stephen his son earlier so his son was actually a cop too in in a different

part of town he was a cop for about six years when this started happening he was fired for obstructing the investigation

into his dad so he wasn't like he wasn't doing it internally as part of that

police force he was in a different part of town so that police force was not investigating the crime he apparently

hid Drew's guns there was three guns that yeah he went in the house when Drew when the police were going to execute a

search one of the house and then took took out the guns in addition to that he accepted $250,000 from his dad you

remember we talked about this with the murdoff family how yeah like moving the money around yeah moving the money around because because Drew was like I'm

definitely going to jail over this totally and somebody can attach

themselves this money like one of these families of these women that I married into they could sue me for wrongful death and this money just goes away

because that so instead of doing that I'm going to give my money to Stephen and Stephen took it and he was um yeah

he was uh forced out of the police force as a result Al of it which oh that's good I was going to ask is he still a

cop I hope not did I mention that when that jury the coroner jury

pool was put together one of the members on that jury was one of Drew's close

friends on he was on the police force they work together on the police force and he's the one who told the rest of the jurors Drew would never do this he

would never kill his wife I know him he's a great guy again cop bro coming

out what the H what the hell is a corner jury that makes no sense I want I want

weird curiosity I want like 12 doctors yeah yeah 13 baker's dozen of

doctors to be on that Court nurse jury I don't want his the murderer's best friend who's a cop and that's the thing

it's it's like did no nobody do research and understand like who they're putting on because think about that if they had

so that actually probably would have saved Stacy's life right because yeah if they had actually done a throne

investigation to Kathleen's death then he probably would have gone to jail then over that and there would be no Stacy

Peterson to speak of right exactly so so yeah that's where things are so as

of right now again I looked I researched this there is no updates on Stacey's

whereabouts on her body nobody knows all we know is that people saw this blue drum being loaded into Scott uh Drew's I

call him Scott again like the overlap is it was a Peterson's murdering their

wives period of American History yeah yeah and so and so that's kind of where

things are right now he's in jail he's presumably going to die in jail again and totally at tacked on about 78 years

for what he did and we're never going to get any sort of resolution or conclusion onto what happened to Stacey in D yeah

yeah when you saw his pictures did he remind you of

anyone no who does he remind you of he looks like a cop he does look like a

cop he it's not that it's a person that he reminds me of it's more like the ongoing theme of the [ __ ] that I

bring up he reminded me he reminded me of Chad Val yeah yeah yeah yeah or Chad

Dell yeah Chad Dell I can see that for sure for sure just beer gut way too

happy and confident in himself like I don't know a lot of commitment to this mustache he's a type yeah he I just want

to make it clear that he looks nothing like roblo they made roblo look worse to

play him in a movie he looks yeah he looks like a retired

professional wrestler like at 60 years old like he does not look good they were they were so generous giving him roblo

so generous that's like if George Clooney played me it's like it's like guys like you gota you gotta do something

here but that's um that's true that sucks those poor kids

those poor ladies kids 19 and 23 years old like

it's again ladies like pay attention to this stuff like if the guy is just

constantly getting married if women come in and out of his life and disappear under circumstances that did not I don't

so I'm trying to think myself I don't I most of my friends at this age are

married and none of them have I'm trying to think I don't think any of my friends have spouses

that died no I know I know someone whose you know

spouse died tragically but they but the it wasn't

suspicious you know sorry I mean like I mean like like sure like if somebody God

forbid dies in a car accident or whatever like I I get that but like yeah my fully able-bodied wife drowned in the

bathtub like it's like that's like a weird that's a Next Level it's too close

to she was killed yeah totally and like and even like well the disappearing is

like real bad yeah like oh my last wife she

disappeared okay is she a magician like what the [ __ ] does that mean you know like that's not that's not okay yeah

yeah so I don't know like to me it's like the age Gap thing is crazy the co

conly marrying people over and over again again like if somebody gets out of a 10-year marriage with like kids involved and like immediately is in

another relationship and marries that like nobody's wired like that almost I

would say almost nobody is wired like that to actually do that I do have a an idea for a dating app called widow or

won't you for people who are widowed in like their late 20s early 30s who like

to no fault of their own really wanted to continue to be married but like something ter will happened so they're

ready to be married because I know a lot of women in their like mid-30s who really want to be married but they're

not finding that men want to be that committed but if you find someone who like wanted to be married but couldn't be because that person died and don't

you feel like they could match together it's for not for widows to get with each other is for a widow to get with a single

person why why wouldn't they just go on a regular everybody on a regular dating

app I mean I don't know I've never been in a dating app but I'm but my idea the idea is that like the Widow is like

really really ready to be married cuz they were married and then someone who is also ready to be married they can

find each other because sometimes I presume I'm dating AB we find someone who's like not that serious anyway I'm G Workshop I'm gonna

Workshop it wi Jeff I feel like well the name is good but I feel like the demographic is

pretty Niche and I'm wondering who the advertisers would be for that box Wine sellers like I don't know huh funeral

homes it's getting dark you got all right I'm I'm gonna

work on it I'm gonna work on it a little bit cool yeah that's my story for the week Bo I hope that he's having a

terrible time in jail I'm sure he's having a terrible time tell someone where CeCe is because her family deserves to know where her body is and

give her a proper all the things it has to come out at some point

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