Episode 6 is our TEN year anniversary episode!! Not ten years of the podcast, that would be insane, but ten years of friendship. Cheers to us! This week Farz slowly sips scotch and tells us about murderous “cop bro”™ Drew Peterson (who might have got lost in all the stories of Petersons murdering their wives in the news). Taylor brings the basics of the most famous love story and building in India, the Taj Mahal. Do you know more? Let us know we’d love to dig deeper! Follow us on Instagram & Facebook! @doomedtofailpod
Episode 6 is our TEN year anniversary episode!! Not ten years of the podcast, that would be insane, but ten years of friendship. Cheers to us!
This week Farz slowly sips scotch and tells us about murderous “cop bro”™ Drew Peterson (who might have got lost in all the stories of Petersons murdering their wives in the news). Taylor brings the basics of the most famous love story and building in India, the Taj Mahal. Do you know more? Let us know we’d love to dig deeper!
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THE TAJ MAHAL: 5 CREEPY, DARK STORIES
The Untold Story of Taj Mahal : 100+ Shocking Secrets, Facts of Hindu Temple
Reality Check: Whose Taj Mahal is it anyway?
Drew Peterson via Amazon and Rob Lowe as Drew Peterson via imdb.
Taj Mahal, Mumtaz Mahal, Shah Jahan - via the creative commons.
Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor
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and we are recording okay
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welcome to Doom to fail the podcast where I consistently test Taylor's patience with me I'm joined
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here by my co-host Taylor hi Taylor how are you doing today oh I'm good how are you I'm good I'm
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good and then I gotta put a note on how I tested your patients we usually record
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these at 10 A.M on Saturdays Central Time in the last two weeks I've had to
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push it back multiple times and Taylor's been very very accommodating and I want to thank her
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and her family for being okay with that you're welcome mostly my family thank you Juan Carlos for not murdering me
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yeah thank you Juan um so let's go ahead and start things off Taylor I see you have a lovely new
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tattoo do you want to talk about it oh we're sure I just got a new tattoo with the Scorpion it is
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um it was hand poked there's a woman here in Joshua Tree named Taylor and she has science Taylor
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also she has a place called love always tattoo shop and this is my second thing from her I also got this dinosaur from
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her as well is hand poked a lot more painful because I assume that it's more nuanced in
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detail is it more painful than normal no and I think the only I well this is like
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just an outline like you know intentionally with a simple outline I think the worst thing is the shading of
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a tattoo that's the part that hurts the most since there isn't initiating in this so nice it looks awesome it looks
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very very cool thanks and my my maiden name is steric in a steric it's a little tiny scorpion so like this piece it's a
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species of a scorpion right sweet very cool did not know that when you told me that earlier this week I
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learned something new did not know that was a thing I wouldn't have said yeah yeah well so let's go ahead and kick
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things off by figuring out what we're going to be drinking today Taylor do you want to maybe let us know what yours is and I'll let you know what mine is yes
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so so for my mine is going to be a non-alcoholic drink but it's going to be like a nice like spiced like chai Indian
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style tea so if you wanted to you know pour yourself some tea Brew some things
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we're gonna go to India for my um for my portion today um but also physically if I'm drinking
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tea because tea gives me a headache and whatever I'm drinking champagne because
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um it's our anniversary it is it is it's a totally normal thing to have a friend
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diversary with someone and um it's exciting because it's our 10-year friendaversary so it was pretty
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cool we didn't even know what podcasts were 10 years ago and the and here we are so yeah crazy yeah Taylor and I met
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10 years ago at our last company in La we start on the first day part of the same cohort and
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um yeah been in homies ever since ever since so my drink is Laphroaig 10 it is
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uh scotch and the reason I have this because I'm actually drinking it while I'm doing it
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yeah you're holding it very aggressively which usually I don't drink and do these but I'm gonna do it
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this time and the reason I picked Scotch is because to me Scotch is a celebratory drink
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um and so I'm celebrating one thing that's personal and then one thing that's related to our story the personal side of it is being in Austin and with
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the ice storm that hit I'm one of the 30 of us tonights that was without power for about three or four days and I just
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got it back today and I was just absolutely elated to get it back as it relates to our story again I'm
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celebrating that I'm not this guy that we're going to talk about she is so awful he's one of the worst people I've
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ever read about in research and I just can't I'm so thrilled that I'm just not
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him so awesome great I don't even know who it is yet but I'm also thrilled that you're not him because
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that sounds bad yeah so I'm gonna go ahead and I heard I heard it open that was nice yeah I'm gonna go ahead and
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pour a little a finger or two of scotch here in this um plastic cup it's also a very bright
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side of you to be like I'm grateful that my um lights are back and not like [ __ ] the
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Texas power grid so I appreciate you half half full with that one yeah yeah
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it's it's been it's been awful and you know it's funny because today it was it's 60 degrees here so you don't you
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didn't wake up just shaking in your in your bed in the the night two nights before was in the 30s and I was like I
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really could have used power of those nights I really could have instead of tonight but it's okay it's okay I'm just
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I'm thankful here and I'm off to Florida tomorrow so all good things um so let's go ahead and dive into what
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my topic is so I'm going to be discussing Drew Peterson
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you know who Drew Peterson is Right Taylor yes yes part of the Peterson men murdering
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wives era of American True Crime but not related to Peterson's but like they were
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just Petersons totally unrelated but I feel like like I wasn't super in a true
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crime when this went down with Drew so I think I personally confused the two together and I just didn't really care
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maybe it was just like saturation of people killing their spouses and I just didn't really pay attention to it at the
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time and also there wasn't much to the story as we're gonna see I mean the outline is extensive so there's a lot to
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talk about but I'll explain why there wasn't all that much to the story when
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this actually first came out um so to start things off I'm gonna say
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I guess what might be a controversial opinion okay
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I'm not anti-police personally totally okay so I have not had many negative
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interactions with police and I'm totally aware that that's not everyone's experience I see the news I pay attention what's going on
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um I understand that these people have impossible jobs very little salary incredibly high stakes it's kind of like
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teachers and professions like that where it's kind of like a thankless job and your ability to describe is incredibly
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High I I have that framing in my mind that I'm totally aware that there's like really shitty versions of these people
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that are out there but this is a general thing I'm just gonna start at the top that I'm not anti-comp
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I'm prefacing that because I also think there's another category that I don't
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know if anybody's ever coined before that I just thought of when I was drafting this outline you tell me if you've ever heard of this cop Pro is
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that a thing oh no but I don't know exactly who you're talking about it's George Zimmerman
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types that relish power without the ability to harness it and
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use it productively and constructively so I'm coining the phrase if it has been done before if it has let me know and
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I'll give you credit somewhere in the notes but yeah and we are talking about cop bro
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today because Drew Peterson his entire career was in law enforcement and so everything I said about police
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take that out of the equation here because that is not who we're talking about here so totally oh wait can I say
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something real fast please did you watch Brooklyn nine nine yeah um I loved how they handled everything
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post covid post you know George Floyd and all of these terrible things
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happening with the police I don't know if you got that far in the series but
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yeah so um spoiler alert Rosa one of the cops she ends up leaving because she doesn't
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want to be associated with the police force anymore um and so they talk about it and like they really like talk about her decision
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and how hard it was for her because she'd love being a police officer but she just didn't agree with the way that you know America was going with their
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police force and all these things and um I don't know they really like they wrapped up the series really beautifully in a time when it was like a real hard
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anti-cop time Rosa was a character so the character was wanted to exit the
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show yeah no yeah yeah the character she like she's still in the show it's only the last season that this happens but
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she just she quits the working in the police department and talks a lot about how the cat as uh like Latino Latino
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woman she can't um continue to to work for the police force it was interesting I think he did
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a good job they didn't ignore it that's awesome that's very cool um so yeah like I said we're gonna be
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discussing Drew Peterson today uh I'll start by saying if you're a woman you do
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not want to be married to Drew he is a unique brand of sociopath and we're
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going to get into a bit of his background here so like I said earlier Drew's background is entirely in law enforcement he had a
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30-year career as a police officer and later a sergeant in a suburb of Chicago called Bowling Brook I looked this town
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up it looks idyllic not celebration idyllic it looks sensible idyllic like
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it's a normal small town Vibe I'm from I'm from Libertyville which is a very similar town in of a suburb of Chicago
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and yes suburb of Chicago I'm from Libertyville Illinois
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I lived there till I was 13 then I moved to Las Vegas yeah I was gonna say I thought you were always from Las Vegas
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10 years that little nugget of Taylor trivia comes out there's still so
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much to learn so much to learn and I found another interesting thing about Bolingbrook was that the income level
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was high it was somewhere around 107 000 I didn't write it down in the outline but it was
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above the national average so this is we're talking about a
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relatively sleepy Town despite the fact that it's in a Chicago suburb so just like frame that as like that's where
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this guy is trying to enforce the law there's not much going on and this is me
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just projecting if I was him I'd be bored out of my mind maybe like the way he turned into a
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sociopath was he just like I'm so tired of writing tickets for like parallel parking in the wrong spot and then he
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went down this horrible um rabbit hole that he ended up down so he retired in 2007 and was given a
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pretty nice passion it was about 60 67 000 or so a year which is awesome great
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yeah free money so that's his professional background not much more detail we need to go into
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there apparently he wasn't a terrible cop he did have actually one and only one misconduct allegation and that was
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only for running police searches for fun rather than for work reasons and then
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later on somebody else said we all do that we all we all like if we're trying to see what our in-laws are up to we'll
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run background it was a comment oh sure sure sure okay okay not going into someone's house and being like I'm gonna go through your drawers so being like
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I'm gonna look up on the computer if you have any felonies exactly exactly that sure okay like I was talking to someone
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today about how um if you're giving give me your address I'm gonna Zillow your house like 100 for any reason I was a
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lawyer house I want to see how much you spent on it I want to see the last time it was sold I want your square footage on the whole thing the rent estimate all
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of it I love how thorough you were I get I got it so let's start with our red flags
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Drew's relationships I I promise I'm not picking
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these types of I'm just speaking of stories that I find interesting and the fact that there's a lot of marriages involved there's just
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ancillary to that Taylor how many marriages do you think Drew had
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three four four okay almost five actually okay
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he was engaged a fifth time predictably he was crushing it on both
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ends of marriage and divorce his first wife Carol Brown was his high school sweetheart they married in 1974 and
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divorced once it came to light that Rue was cheating and the two kids one of whom Stephen is somewhat relevant later
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on in this story so we can forget the other kids marriage number two was to Vicky
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Connolly they stayed married for 10 years and Vicky had reported domestic violence against Drew before
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later once the facts of what we're going to be discussing later came to light she
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alleges that Drew threatened to kill her make it look like an accident hmm they divorced and their divorce was
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finalized in 1992. marriage number three is where things take a darker turn an escalation turn
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all right I yeah I think that's kind of what's
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going on here is like he's just slowly inching his way into being more and more abusive there's like something about this in the story we told like two weeks
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ago around like how the older men get the more they start becoming crazy and I
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guess maybe that's an indication of this so marriage number three is to Kathleen Salvo
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they got married just a few months after the divorce from Vicki so again I would
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say it's a red flag right yeah and it must have been really hard for Vicky to
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accuse him of that if he's a cop right yeah like I don't know who you'd go to
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like where you'd feel safe making that accusation because we'll we'll learn later on that the cockro culture in this
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story comes out later on so yeah that that had to be that's a that's actually a really really good point I didn't put
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it in here but that's that's uh that's a good um when the but I'm gonna have to cut out the fact
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that I'm saying points so many times you're telling me I did a good job I'll
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keep that in okay so I put down here that I don't
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care who you are if someone just got out of an extremely
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long-term and serious relationship and it doesn't matter what they tell you they are not ready to get married I just
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don't think that humans are wired like that right and like why because we've talked about this before like you can tape
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people you can live together whatever you know like marriage is so much paperwork why do that he just insisted on
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constantly marrying these women I don't yeah what do you make of that like why yeah actually again another good point
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Taylor why does someone just keep getting married over and over like this I don't know I mean I can't even imagine
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like having to move out of my house and like divide myself up again that sounds exhausting I need to do that like three
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times that sounds like that just doesn't make any sense like I feel like it has to be like we talked about with like
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Henry the eighth of the tutors and why you couldn't get divorced it has to be just like I want to have
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legal control over you did that did you hear that no what was
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it um Matt Lane just texted me and it
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audibly sounded so I need to mute that and at all
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yeah I don't totally so we'll learn later on that Drew actually didn't have
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that problem of having to file paperwork and yeah he he actually found another
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way around that oh okay yeah yeah he's a creative creative type
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so in March of 2004 Kathleen died under suspicious
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circumstances she was found in a bathtub and her death was ruled in accidental drowning just
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keep cop bro in the back your mind yeah and this is kind of where the
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shenanigans start Taylor Taylor do you remember any part of this case because I only remember it because it was part of
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like an investigation discovery thing and I always turn that channel on when I have a chance I feel like we're an efficient part I
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remember that is going to come in the future as it involves does it involve his daughter-in-law in some way
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it does not it doesn't okay then I don't know okay yeah so
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the bathtub she was found in was dry and contained no water
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apparently her cause of death was decided on by what's called a Coroner's
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jury which I never heard of this before I thought that when someone dies they just go to a corner and
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they do what they do to identify the cause of death in this case and some jurisdictions in this jurisdiction in
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particular a jury they are the ones who decide the cause of death I I suppose I don't I didn't get super In The Weeds on
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this but I suppose what it is is that somebody does like an investigation into like the body and then they send off the
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report to this group of six or twelve and they make a determination on what the cost of death was
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are they professionally they it was a distinction because it feels like science should be involved
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I will dive way deep into that in this afternoon okay like I'd like a scientist
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to think about my cause of death and not like really you know what corporate to do it no I look at the actual like a
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really good scientist oh you're gonna be disappointed then so that's where things are Kathleen is
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found in a dry bathtub ruled an accidental death by drowning
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and that's where thing stands sand and Drew just moves on okay okay
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we're now on to wife number four her name is Stacy Ann Kell
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you're gonna keep finding patterns in my stories here's another red flag at the time they married
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Drew was 49 guess how old Stacey was 22 19. oh no 30 years oh my God like what
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do you have in common with a 19 people when you're 49. 19 is too young to get
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married for most people anyway like in any way shape or form yeah yeah and they
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ended up having two kids and she actually even adopted Kathleen's kids and raised them like they were her own
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and by all accounts Stacy was a very sweet woman and mother in late October of 2007 Stacy was
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reported missing by her sister Cassandra Drew claims that Stacy this is so stupid
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Drew claims that Stacy called him and said she's leaving him for another man and that was it
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that's it yeah like I don't know what happened to Stacy she just called me and said she's leaving me for somebody else
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and she left her kids there and all that yeah and that's all we know
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Stacy is still missing and presumed dead I've been researching this to figure out like has anything at all come out in the
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year I mean this is I mean oh I'm gonna do math again 2007 and 2023
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that's six plus 16 years right 16 yeah yeah
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that's a good job but 16 years of absolutely nothing coming out about what happened to this
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this woman so she's presumed dead obviously and Drew's not saying anything to anybody we
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do have some details that seem relevant so a friend of Drew's told police that he and Drew bought three blue plastic
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barrels or sometime around 2003 for a job they were Contracting to do this is
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totally 55 gallon blue drum Jeffrey Dahmer Vibes right yeah yeah great
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Drew's Stepbrother when you said that I'm like oh he's a
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cops what does he mean what a job he has to do like a home construction job I guess yeah he was he was contracted out
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like as a side hustle to like do odd jobs around town yeah Drew's stepbrother
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attempted suicide two days after helping Drew carry one of these containers and
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he later said he feared it contained Stacy's body in it so
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that's where things stand with that but again that's basically all we have at this point I think the police may have
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done some covering up of things but who really knows it's worth noting that none
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of that slowed Drew Down a year after Stacy's disappearance he got engaged to
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a 23 year old woman named Christina yeah
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now he's like 50 something yeah yeah I already meet her at like a singles event
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like where do you meet these people so I know with one of his earlier wives they actually started a bar together while he
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was still a cop and so I assumed she ran it or someone maybe he held on to it so maybe like that's where I don't know I
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don't know how I don't know how you organically run into a 23 year old when you're in your 50s dog parks maybe that
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I don't know we'll talk about that this week on dating far as in Austin bubbly uh
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luckily Christina's dad had a ton of sense and basically forced her to break things off and move out of Drew's house
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so like it was basically like an ultimate I'm like you're not doing this because at this point I would assume that there was news stories popping up
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around this guy yeah totally and weren't all the kids there with a
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bunch of kids there yeah I actually don't know where the kids were because the first two kids
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would have been old enough to have moved on by then it would have been way past 18 years old but I don't know about the youngest two
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so let's Circle back to Kathleen's cause of death after Stacy went missing Kathleen's body
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was exhumed in a forensic forensic examination was conducted when I read this Taylor I thought back to our first
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episode of you pointing out the great fact that if you kill someone and you control what happens their body
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just cremate the body yeah for real why don't you get rid of the evidence yeah be smart people
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the conclusions were that she had in fact died by drowning but it wasn't an accident
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there had been a struggle and she was later placed in the bathtub because of course she was they showed up to a
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drowning and she's totally dry and there's no water in the tub what did she drown in we don't know we don't know
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what happened okay but we know that she had bruising on her back her torso her
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face there was a gash on her scalp oh my God at which point that death was then
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classified as a homicide in 2009 Drew is actually finally indicted for a murderer this murder in
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particular Kathleen's again don't know anything about Stacy this is just for Kathleen
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but it's interesting that like that is what spiral imprompted this to happen
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um so because there was no direct evidence of what happened to Stacy there's a
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curious legal procedure wait what did I write here
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yeah I got it direct from law school yeah right is
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this whatever you're saying yeah in 2009 Drew was indicted for Kathleen's murder because there is no direct
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evidence of what happened to Stacy there's a curious legal procedure thing that the prosecution started to do
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so generally speaking hearsay evidence I.E someone told me this thing happened isn't allowed except for certain
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circumstances because the whole point of American Justice is you have a right to question your accuser but if the
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person's not there you're just saying here's what they said you don't have that right there was such hearsay in this case
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where it should not have been allowed and it wasn't but the hearsay was
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something along the lines of Drew told me he killed his wives Illinois the state legislator the state
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legislation really wanted this guy in jail so they passed a law just for him called Drew's law
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which allows this kind of hearsay evidence to be admissible basically yeah
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it's like ghost testimony and they're saying like [ __ ] you you're guilty also and
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yeah after you because yeah that's how much you believe that you're guilty yeah exactly so yeah this law basically
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allows the hearsay of a dead witness as long as the prosecution can prove they were killed to prevent that testimony
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cool yeah so also it's funny because I feel like every episode I say we're not
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a legal procedure show and then I go into legal procedure so well I mean also I mean it's it's relevant you did go to
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you did spend like a million dollars to go to law school so you got to use that money somewhere and you'll use it here
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so paying off congratulations yeah lucky me
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so ultimately Drew was found guilty of Kathleen's death the jurors did say that
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Drew's law testimony is basically would swayed them so good on the state legislators for taking
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quick action yeah he was ultimately sentenced to 38 years which is where BGE
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is at he's in jail right now apparently he got his ass kicked in jail like his first like couple of days or a week there and so they ended up having to
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transfer from somewhere different I think the last I read he was somewhere in Michigan or India and I can't remember exactly where but he's just
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bouncing around right because he's a cop who's in jail yeah and it's like that's not good
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yeah and I mean he kind of killed like almost kids
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yeah no to kill a young woman and like why did he did he is he still think he's
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does he still say he's innocent oh yeah he see I really didn't want to turn this
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super legal procedurally but a large part of this case is
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everything that happened after he's convicted which is just like the multiples of appeals that were run and everything else and so like that's the
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state that it's at right now he's constantly appealing and he's constantly losing appeal after appeal and hopefully that's I'm gonna get into another piece
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like he is definitely going to run in jail forever so I wrote down
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a subcategory here called other gross weird [ __ ] thanks and he's so gross like
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he's such a disgusting human being in 2009 so after he like
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he like tried to turn this into his 15 minutes of fame the fact that his wife was dead I don't know if you saw videos
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of this guy you should look it up you should look him up yeah because there's there's videos of him like he's just
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like smiling at the camera like a huge grin like he is Overjoyed that people
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are paying attention to him in this way that he's being photographed like he thinks that this is like
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but this makes him cool or more desirable or something I don't know how to describe it it's just it's just he's
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too happy and I don't I don't know if he understands the gravitas of what's going on or he just thinks hey I
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mean he kind of committed the Perfect Crime right his first wife they said it's accidental the second one we still don't know where her body is so maybe he
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was just like so happy with himself and pleased with himself that's why he's grinning ear to ear in every one of
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these pictures so are you are you looking this picture up yeah is that Rob Lowe that plays him
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in like the Lifetime movie yeah I think so nice yeah that's like pretty good cash pretty good
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yeah I mean obviously Rob Lowe is much more handsome but they make him look less handsome
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it's pretty funny yeah so one thing that he did that was so gross we're going to talk about his
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lawyer in a little bit he and his lawyer went on a talk show like a morning show
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a radio morning show with this guy who just kept making fun of Drew Peterson about how like
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obviously guilty he was and his lawyer suggested that the hosts do a dating
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game segment with Drew where women can call in and who wants to win a date with Drew what yeah
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and do they call in no this radio host had enough sense to say that's an incredibly bad taste we're
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definitely not going to do that I definitely read something today that already women are writing to that like
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um the Iowa Idaho murderer guy and being like I love him he's perfect because he will write
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to like convex somehow wait who who is that guy the guy who just killed all those like um college kids in that place
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oh my God already women are like what go to a bar if I don't dude that hasn't
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killed someone yeah I just don't think is that hard most people your your odds are better to
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find someone that hasn't killed someone I hope so yeah so another curiosity here is he's so
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stupid too in 2015 so this is after he's convicted and he's in jail for 38 years he tried to hire someone to kill the
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prosecutor in his trial it's impossible to hire someone you can't no no one is a contracted killer
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there's never been one but think about that like if he had done like
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assume he had done this and and he got in away with it he's still in jail they're not going to overturn a
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conviction because the prosecutor is dead yeah right that's not like what's the end of
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that just to kill him because he's mad yeah yeah and then so he did this in
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2015 in 2016 he goes to trial for for this and this is the part that like I don't
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totally get he had 40 years for this maybe because it's like a state government worker or something attempting to kill one of them might
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have carry more weight than um yeah yeah I don't totally get that math
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but yeah he was he did he attacked on another 40 years wow yeah
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so his lawyer this guy he's such an idiot again I'm drinking Scotch because
29:18
I'm so glad that I'm not this guy his lawyer apparently says he knows exactly where Stacy is
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[ __ ] so his lawyer apparently knows or he
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says he knows where Stacy's body is you know he's been stated as saying he knows everything
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but that communication is protected by attorney-client privilege because there's no harm to be done now she's
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already dead so there's there's no there's no way that he could break that ew and disclose that
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it's worth noting though that he actually lost his law license for like totally unrelated reasons to Drew
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Peterson so like yeah
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I don't understand yeah well so it doesn't matter that he lost his license later on like the
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communication that was had was done earlier than that and so that's why it's protected and in addition to that he's actually under a court order under gag
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order to not disclose anything so if he does he's basically gonna
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yeah he would probably be held in contempt of court at this point and he could probably be sued by Drew Peterson
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but who cares at this point so what about Stacy's family like don't think there's everything where she is
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yeah maybe the victims yeah yeah but like but in this case you know this this super supersedes that the attorney
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client privilege wow yeah so I mentioned Stephen his son earlier
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so his son was actually a cop too in a different part of town he was a cop for about six years when this started
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happening he was fired for obstructing the investigation into his dad so he wasn't
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like he wasn't doing it internally as part of that police force he was in a different part of town so that police
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force is not investing in the crime she apparently hid Drew's guns there was three guns that yeah he went in the
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house when Drew when the police were going to execute a search warrant of the house and then took out the guns in
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addition to that he accepted 250 000 from his dad
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do you remember we talked about this with the Murdoch family how yeah like moving the money around yeah moving the money around because because Drew was
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like I'm definitely going to jail over there yeah totally and somebody can attach
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themselves this money like one of these families of these women that I married into they could sue me for wrongful death and this money just goes away
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because of that so instead of doing that I'm just gonna give my money to Stephen and Stephen took it and he was um yeah he was uh
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forced out of the police force as a result of it which oh that's good I was going to ask is he still a cop I hope not did I mention that
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when that jury the coroner jury pool was put together one of the members on that
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jury was one of Drew's close friends on he was on the police force they worked together on the police force and he's
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the one who told the rest of the jurors Drew would never do this he would never kill his wife I know him he's a great
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guy again cop bro coming out what the hell what the hell is a
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Coroner's jury that makes no sense I want I want your curiosity I want like
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12 doctors yeah yeah 13. baker's dozen of doctors to be on that Court Nursery I
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don't want hit the murderer's best friend who's a cop that's the thing is it's like did no
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nobody do research and understand like who they're putting on because think about that if they had so that actually
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probably would have saved Stacy's life right because yeah if they had actually done a throw investigation to Kathleen's
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death then he probably would have gone to jail then over that and there would be no Stacy Peterson to speak of
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right exactly so so yeah that's where things are so as of
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right now again I looked I researched this there is no updates on Stacy's
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whereabouts on her body nobody knows all we know is that people saw this blue drum being loaded into Scott uh Drew's I
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call him Scott again like the overlap is exactly it was a it was a Peterson's murdering their wives period of American
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History yeah yeah and so and so that's kind of where things are right now he's in jail he's presumably gonna die in
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jail again and totally at attacked on about 78 years for what he did and we're
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never going to get any sort of resolution or conclusion on to what happened to Stacy in there yeah
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yeah when you size pictures did you remind you of anyone
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no who's your mind you have he looks like a cop he does look like a cop he it's not that
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it's a person that he reminds me of it's more like the ongoing theme of the [ __ ] that I bring up he reminded me
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he reminded me of Chad uh yeah yeah yeah yeah or Chad day Bell yeah Chad day Bell
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I can see that for sure just beer gut way too happy and
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confident in himself like I don't know a lot of commitment to this mustache
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he's a type yeah he I just want to make it clear that he looks nothing like Rob
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Lowe they made Rob Lowe look worse to play him in the movie he looks yeah he
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looks like a retired professional wrestler like at six years old like he does not look good they were they were
34:40
so generous giving him Rob Lowe so generous let's see if George Clooney played me it's like it's like guys like
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yeah you gotta do you gotta do something here but that's um
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that's true that sucks his poor kids those poor ladies kids 19 and 23 years
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old like it's again ladies like pay attention to this stuff like if the
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guys are constantly getting married if women come in and out of his life and disappear under circumstances I did not
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I don't so I'm trying to think to myself I don't I most of my friends at this age are
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married and none of them have I'm trying to think I don't think any of my friends
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have spouses that no
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I know I know someone who's you know spouse died tragically
35:37
but they but it wasn't suspicious you know sorry I mean like I
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mean like like sure like if somebody got from it dies in a car accident or whatever like I I get that but like
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yeah my fully able-bodied wife drowned in the bathtub like yeah it's like that's like a weird that's a Next Level
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it's too close to she was killed yeah totally and even like well the
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disappearing is like real bad yeah I feel like oh my last
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wife she disappeared okay is she a magician like what the [ __ ] does that mean you know like that's
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not that's not okay yeah yeah so I don't know like to me it's like the age Gap
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thing is crazy the constantly marrying people over and over again like if
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somebody gets out of a 10-year marriage with like kids involved and like immediately is in another relationship and marries that like
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nobody's wired like that almost I would say almost nobody's wired like that to actually do that I do have a an idea for
36:39
a dating app called widow or won't ya for people who are widowed in like their
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late 20s early 30s who like to no fault of their own really wanted to continue to be married but like something
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terrible happened so they're ready to be married because I know a lot of women in their like mid-30s who really want to be
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married but they're not finding that men want to be that committed but if you find someone who like wanted to be married but couldn't be because a person
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died and didn't feel like they could match together it's for not for widows to get with each other it's for a widow to get with a single person
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why wouldn't they just go on a regular because everybody on a regular dating
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app I've never been in a dating app but but my idea the idea is that like the Widow
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is like really really ready to be married because they were married and then someone who is also ready to be
37:28
married they can find each other because sometimes I presumating Abby finds someone who's like not that serious
37:35
anyway I have a workshop I'm gonna Workshop it yeah I feel like well the name is good
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but I feel like the demographic is pretty Niche and I'm wondering who the advertisers would be for that
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box wine cellars like I don't know who yeah funeral homes
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it's getting dark
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yeah that's my story for the week oh I hope that he's having a terrible time in
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jail tell someone where she said because her family deserves to know where her body is and give her a proper
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all the things it has to come out at some point it just has to yeah if you're not too
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uh cool well thanks so what do you have for us that is tea and or champagne
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related is
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definitely don't want to do just like Western people so today we're going to go to
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India so what is the most famous building in India as well that's what
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we're talking about today Taj Mahal um it's gonna be a good one did you know that the Taj Mahal is one of the Seven
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Wonders of the World at the moment no um but can you name any of them there's
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seven wonders of the ancient world and seven wonders of like the world that are still around Grand Canyon the towers uh the The
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Gardens of Babylon Taj Mahal
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uh I'm out Amazon rainforest no those are like natural things we're talking about these are all things like people
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built oh uh the Great Wall of China yes so
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good I'm just gonna I'm just gonna tell you so I'm just guessing
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um the ancient world there's a bunch of big statues it's the classes of roads which is like a big statue of a God
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there's a statue of Zeus at Olympia the only one we can still see is the Great Pyramids there's the Hang Gardens of
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Babylon you got that one there's a Temple of Artemis a mausoleum at Hela carnassus in the Lighthouse of
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Alexandria so most six of those we can't see anymore but we like know that they exist in
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um of the current world that people things that we can see there's a Coliseum the Great Wall of China the Taj Mahal Chrysler Redeemer in Brazil Machu
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Picchu Chichen Itza and the Pietra and Jordan so
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it's one of the seven wonders of the world it's a beautiful building we'll talk about the architecture and when it was built but I wanted to also start
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with reading some of the one star reviews on Google reviews just to get an
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idea of what it's like to visit the Taj Mahal so um a person named Kevin recently wrote
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one star there was no McDonald's nearby which for tourist spot is a shame also
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it needed an audio tour as I refuse to learn how to read so I think maybe he's joking yeah I kind
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of like Kevin's sense of humor and there's a hulia with a a accent over the U that says the beauty
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of his place is just destroyed by the stupidness of the people you can't even enjoy the moment because you will be
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told millions of times move we're taking a picture so it sounds very crowded when you go
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visit it um this is my favorite it's one from zh just the initials
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and it's long but part of it is they visited it third they visited it three times and this time was the worst ever
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there was no internet and no mobile network they provide Wi-Fi for 30 minutes but after 18 minutes it was
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turned off they say you can pay for a longer connection but there is no link to pay the website anywhere I went
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inside expecting to pay and get Wi-Fi but I wasted an hour trying to connect to the stupid Wi-Fi like because people are not living in
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the moment you're in the Taj Mahal Hall and you're looking at one party on the Wi-Fi it just take some pictures and put them on Instagram later
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so I uh I vehemently refused to visit Italy or France because
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I know you have a I know that Italy thing is probably weird to you but it's because both those are weird but
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continue because it's so touristy it's like all the stuff that you want to go to it's like like I said like I avoid
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crowds I avoid large Gatherings as much as I possibly can like the Eiffel Tower you know the Louvre like all the things
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you want to do there it's just it could be cram packed with Kevin's and that's what it's only with Taj Mahal is like
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too it's like very very crowded like almost constantly um but you know who else gave a positive
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review of the Taj Mahal is Eleanor Roosevelt she went to visit it in the 1950s
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and so Eleanor said I think of all the things I've seen in the world this is the most perfectly proportioned the
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purity of the white marble makes the conception of the internal purity of real love a very living thing I escaped
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the guides as much as possible because I felt that this was a Perfection that one must feel and let sink in it could not
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just be talked about so it's a nice review from our dear ER about it she's so eloquent consistently
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that was in my day her her um daily column about what she was up to that was
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in the 50s so the Taj Mahal is really hard to research
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so I looked at like you know like Wikipedia pages and some articles but it felt like there's either
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like a pretty straightforward history or there's conspiracy theories and there's not much in between about like what
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actually happened so I had a hard time I was like looking around the internet and I was looking at
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podcasts and books and I couldn't find anything and this morning I finally found one that I listened to this afternoon that
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was um from the BBC called you're dead to me and it told a more nuanced story of the
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Mogul Empire and the Taj Mahal that we'll talk about but it was hard to find more and I feel like there is a lot more
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to this story that like just isn't available for whatever reason but um the Taj Mahal is a mausoleum
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located in Agra India so it's the North Center of India so if I take my hand and flip it over it looks like India is
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right here like in the top of my poem this is an audio medium so nobody no
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that's it you get it India looks like a palm upside down okay that's what it is it's in the middle it's not on the coast
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it's in the middle it is next to a river it was built by Mogul Empire Shah Jahan
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in memory of his favorite wife mumtaz Mahal so
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Shah Jahan was born in 1592 when he was born his name was Prince karaham he's a
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direct descendant of Genghis Khan and a powerful line of cons and warriors are moving into India so a lot of violence
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to kind of get here but this Empire was huge so this is we're at the same time
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as like the Tudors like right after Elizabeth the first so we're like 100 years after the Henry the 8th story so
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it's pretty modern really it's like not that long ago that all this happened and it was like like these like Mongol
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Empires moving down into India this Empire is called the Mughal m-u-g-h-a-l-h-a-l
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um but that's kind of where he comes from their uh Islamic empire that came down into India and I also want to
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mention that everybody should listen to The Wrath of the cons by Dan Carlin where he talks about Genghis Khan and
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I'm really really nervous about you to say it wrong exactly because you have to say Jenkins because that's what Dan Carlin says and I'm like I have to say
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the correct way and the correct way is the Dan Carlin way also we're going
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um so a direct descending their Genghis Khan shajahan
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becomes Emperor Shah Jahan means king of the world and in order to become emperor
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he needed to fight his brothers essentially so it wasn't always the oldest became the ruler it was you know
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the one who could you know maybe fight to the death fight till the blinding they would blind each other you know
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things like that so people were pretty like mauled to get to to get to power and so it's a lot of that and a lot of
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also like even like the um the Mongols when I
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listened to Wrath of the cons halfway through I was like why aren't we all Mongols it makes no sense that they didn't just you know take over the
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entire world they were very very far on their way to doing that and it's the same reason that we talk about with
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Catherine the Great and with Henry the ace it's that you're not guaranteed to have smart kids and you are probably gonna have dumb ones
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and it's just like dumb kids did you know that the dothrakis of Game
46:00
of Thrones is based on the Mongols that make sense totally yeah absolutely
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um so you know you'd think that they would be really like they were on their way but once the Genghis Khan passed
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away his sons divided up the Empire and they fought each other and then it disappeared it just is it's as simple as
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that like one generation and it can be gone but Shah Jahan becomes
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emperor of the Mughal Empire he married three women but his favorite was mumtaz
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Mahal which means Jewel of the palace she had a different name before they were married but that was the name that
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she's you know named by it by history she was also semi-royalty so she was like part of the upper class they got
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engaged and were engaged for five years before they got married so in the meantime he had married another person
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and then he married someone else after but those were like political marriages and he really loved Moon Taj Mahal
46:52
and then also the name Taj Mahal like no one really knows where it comes from and they think it kind of talks it's kind of
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a way of like saying moom Taj Mahal in a different way are you saying Taz like t-a-s Mahal
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mumtaz m-u-m-t-a-z t-a-z yeah okay
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so that is maybe where the word Taj Mahal came from
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but like they're not no one's really 100 sure maybe so in Old literature you'll
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notice that the um the characters might look the same but they'll be pronounced differently so for example in Old
47:29
English literature I bought a book for my dad there was like a 19 like or not it was like a 1500s copy of something or
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a book but they had no s's because all the F's back then were pronounced and so
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they could be one of those same situations oh absolutely absolutely I'm sure that there's I have absolutely no idea how these were actually pronounced
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so I'm trying my best um and so they were married in 1612. he
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became the emperor in 1628. so again we're about 90 years after Henry VII so
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1603 is when Elizabeth the first um her rule ends and the tutor the tutor
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line ends so it's kind of lining up so we know that when Taj Mahal dies like that's the whole point of the whole Taj
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Mahal the whole story it's a tomb um for her um guess what she died doing
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childbirth yeah shy baby she was having her 14th baby she's 38 years old having her 14th child
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only seven of her kids survived um like into adulthood which is a
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terrible odds and when she died giving birth to her 14th child she was 38 years
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old and I've been thinking like as I was saying it was hard to find information about this and I was like is this a tragic
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love story like everyone's wife died of childbirth like I don't know I don't want to like be a jerk but like that happened all the time and hit two other
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wives so like kind of whatever but all accounts are that they did love each other um she traveled with him on Military
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campaigns and he only had like one child with other wives for like political reasons so
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I guess that's romantic yeah so this was this was his actual like true yeah love
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and he was devastated when she died and so he you know spent a couple days in Exile just like being sad and then came
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out and said that he wanted to build like a big Monument to her and that is a Taj Mahal but he also
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built it to show his power and status because it's huge and it's gorgeous and so no my sister has I'm trying to find
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the picture of her there but I haven't been it's it's interesting because with all those old you know artifacts
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buildings and then we would say but like the scale of it is hard to understand
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when you see them in pictures but that'd be the case with a Taj Mahal too yeah absolutely I think I'm gonna
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talk about that in a little bit because I have some you know stats on what it looks like and like kind of where it is in in the city but it took 22 years to
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build and during that time Shah Jahan was overthrown by one of his sons that he had with mumtaz Mahal and she put and
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he put his dad in prison for eight years but when he when Shah Jahan died he did
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get to be buried in the Taj Mahal as well so the his life didn't end as like in
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like supreme power but his son did let him get buried you know next to his his beloved wife so
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I'll talk about conspiracy theories in a little bit but some things that I found that aren't very very aren't like verified but they're not controversial
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so like they could be true and it doesn't matter um so I heard it cost if you convert it to
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today's money in dollars it cost a billion dollars to build so it was like super you know best of
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the best of everything 20 000 people worked on it and it was a mixture of Artisans and probably some slaves
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probably some people who were paid you know really poorly but like the pyramids so there's like a new thought about the
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pyramids and it wasn't just exclusively built by slaves because it had to be you know there had to be Architects and
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people who were invested in it you know and wanted to you know make it a beautiful thing so same in this case
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there's people who like worked really hard to make it very beautiful this is also the time of the Deccan famine which was 1630 to 1632 where it
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was a few years of failed crops so it isn't mentioned in a lot of information but it does show that there's probably
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something else that happened where like if everyone's starving and you're spending a billion dollars on this
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building like something's wrong and people are probably like upset and like a lot of people are dying you know what
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I mean Taylor you're probably gonna get to this is it literally just a mausoleum
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no there's a couple other things in it as well like rooms restaurants Hotel like there
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is so okay wait let me get to this I will okay if I'm stepping on your stories no no no no no wait I'm gonna
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tell you one more fun thing and then I'll do the I'll tell you more about it so one fun thing that I think we kind of
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alluded to is that this is so big it's like so big and so Grand they had to have scaffolding obviously and Scaffolding is typically
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made of bamboo so like in ancient China they had two story buildings because they could make really strong scaffolding out of bamboo before anybody
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else could and so but in this case the scaffolding was made out of bricks and then when they were done they were like
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how are we gonna get rid of All These Bricks so they like put up a sign and they were like Free Bricks come and get them and it was gone in like a day
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so they just let like other people take them which is a great idea um so wait so we'll talk about what it looks like and like kind of what is what
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is in it so I did look on Google Maps to see where it was because
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if you look at like Google maps of like Stonehenge there's a parking lot right next to it you know and even like the Great Pyramids you're like oh like
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a quarter of a mile away there's a Pizza Hut you know and there's like the city so it's not like it's like its own thing but this is pretty
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um encased in like some walls and there's beautiful gardens and then there's the Taj Mahal itself in the Middle with like a fountain like that's
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the picture that you see all the time of people like sitting on the bottom with the Taj Mahal in the back and it also has a big Forest preserved
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next to it so it is a little bit isolated it's right next to a river as well so it is a symmetrical building with a
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large white marble dome in the center surrounded by four smaller domes and then there's four minarets which is like
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those big towers all around it and those aren't straight they like turn a little bit to help protect them from
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earthquakes so they want to make sure that like are you looking a picture of it so I pulled up Google Maps to look up
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the location of Stonehenge and then I also pulled up another tab to look up the location of Taj Mahal and
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I was like this map looks eerily familiar and it pulled up the Taj Mahal Indian restaurant in Austin so I have
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not found it yet correct so not that one go to Agra India not I'm sure there's a
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million Taj Mahal any restaurants and I'm sure they're all delicious um but it's made of so anyway when you
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do see it the four big towers around it they're not screwed up and down they turn because they move because of earthquakes and which is like something
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that they do now with Office Buildings and skyscrapers the main structure is made of white marble which is inlaid
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with intricate designs so they have like writing from the Quran because Muslim you know Building made by
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maybe Muslim so it has writing from the Quran all around it and it's not because it's not Hindu it's Muslim it has it
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also has like you were asking about other buildings so there's also a smaller um part that's made out of red stance
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Sandstone that's a mosque so there's a mosque there as well I was gonna say because the architecture like is just incredibly reminiscent of
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Arabic yeah it's more more
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Vibes Moorish Vibes than it is Indian Vibes to me um it's beautiful I'm
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looking at it right now it is it is uh Next Level yeah that's exactly right that's because the you know the Mughal
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Empire was you know a Muslim empire that was going down and you know using their traditions and their architecture but it
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also kind of blends with the native architecture as well to you know create create this but it does have a mosque in
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in the back of it and so all of the calligraphy around it is inlaid Stone and Marble so it's not painted it's like
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they cut out the words and then like you know put them in a different color marble so it's super beautiful and look
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lasts forever um in accordance with Muslim law no animals or humans are carved in the Taj
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Mahal so it's just like vegetation and Words which I think is interesting because when you go to like the Vatican you see like 7 000 images of
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people like doing crazy things it's just like people everywhere fantasm Hall it's not people it's just like the Earth and
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then the words so it is a blend of Indian Persian and Islamic Styles
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um the Symmetry is a big part of the design so like the middle Tower The Four Towers and the form and you're at surround it
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um the it's also you're not supposed to have like a really fancy tomb in in the Muslim
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belief system so shajahan and mumtaz are actually buried underneath the Taj Mahal
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and like a very simple room and there's like a fake sarcophagus above them where they're not buried that's like part of
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like the more intricate part of it interesting um so some other cool things as it changes
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color during the day like not really but the way the sunlight is on it yeah right it turns pink it turns pink yeah which
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is cool and you can actually book a tour during the full moon as long as it isn't Ramadan but I'm sure that's beautiful as
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well because the full moon would be like super bright and you would see it um Taylor can I can I interject one
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piece yes so growing up like I hadn't really gone to
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like Muslim funerals because like I wasn't really raised religious right like it was it was it wasn't really a
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thing in my family um but I knew enough about like American
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culture to know the like you get like the Velvet line casket with like it's just impenetrable beautiful Oak this
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that and the other one with the gold railing and stuff like that and when I've had family members pass and I they
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wanted to get buried in Muslim and Muslim ground it is literally just like plywood you
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would buy from Home Depot that the body is between and the entire idea which actually like the body's wrapped in and
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it's washed and it's wrapped in like a fabric there's like rose water poured on it and stuff like that but it's really just like put into this like very shabby
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box I'm sure collapse is under the weight of whatever dirt is being thrown on it what I loved about it was
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part of the the belief system is you know your body's not really yours it's Nature's and the whole point is don't
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make something impenetrable so nothing can get to your body you need your body to go back into nature totally this just
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reminded me of that no and I love that and I've actually so I live in Joshua Tree and there's a Joshua Tree Cemetery
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it's our Memorial Park I can see it from my house and they have a part of it where you can be buried like that like
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without even the plywood you're just wrapped in a shroud and they put you in the ground and your family can come and like put rocks around where you're where
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you are and something crazy and you you know become part of the Earth again and I definitely want to do that like I went
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to it and I stood in that area and I can see my house from there and I was like this is exactly what I want this is awesome but yeah I love that because
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otherwise you're like what in your best suit in a coffin around forever that
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yeah I love going back to the Earth part that total like a simple burial place makes a lot of sense yeah totally yeah
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same page yeah um right now if you went to the Taj Mahal and there's if you're looking at Google
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Maps there's there's the buildings and there's beautiful gardens so the gardens originally were like you know kind of
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overgrown beautiful pollinator Gardens with like very fragrant very beautiful flowers and of course guess who ruined
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them and made them boring I that's a tough one I don't know the characters enough the British
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because I wasn't gonna guess that we're about to get to the point and I'm not gonna talk about this where the East
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India Company is you know moving into India and about to like take over and like ruin everything so the British are
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on their way and they do like redo the gardens to look like a typical European garden but thankfully they didn't do
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anything to the building so the garden isn't exactly the way that it would have been it was originally made
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um right now the biggest threat to the casual hall is pollution so you actually used to be able to drive
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up in front of it you can't anymore so they try to like keep it clean and keep cars away from it and things like that
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because it's hard to damage the white marble which is a bummer yeah and like the other stuff I have are like I have
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some fun facts and some conspiracy theories but I just don't know a ton about this relationship between Moon
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plasma Hall and shajahan I wish I knew more about it but it's like she was a good wife she went with him on Military
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campaigns he probably trusted her they had a [ __ ] ton of kids and he loved
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her enough to build this building I wish I knew more if you can't find anything else so I Googled Taj Mahal
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original because I thought maybe there'd be like paintings or something of like the original version of it before you said the British showed up
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I Google everything as you say it which is probably annoying with the keystrokes but like on the first page there's a
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picture of trump with Melania on
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and she is so happy to be there and he could not look more annoyed like why am
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I here uh that's so funny I feel like I never see her genuinely happy so yeah good for
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her she's probably happy because she's in that location more than who she's with [Music]
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um so I have some fun facts so during World War II and during the indo-pakistani um
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wars in the 70s natashem Hall was camouflaged to avoid it being destroyed so they were worried that Japan was
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going to bomb the Taj Mahal during World War II so I have a picture of it that I'll share they cover the dome in like
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bamboo sticks so you can't really see it and then in the 70s they did like a thing with like a tarp over the top and
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like lines to them in your ads to the whole thing sorry during World War II why would anyone
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India wasn't in the war I mean everyone was in the war it was a World War and Japan was like coming that way yes
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what do you mean you guessed Japan was like destroying China and coming down through China and then they were like they wanted to
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take over the world okay you know what I'm gonna have to do my research on this because the rape of Nan King because
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it's [ __ ] terrible was that World War II though okay so okay so that's where
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that's where the disconnect is I actually didn't realize that that was happening at the same time as everything else was going on because to me it was
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like the access the Allies were going to war and the Chinese were not a part of the allies
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I think no they weren't like officially but they were definitely being like invaded by Japan
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you know what you're I defer to you on History okay it's like right before I'm looking it up it says
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the Nanking massacre was from in December 1937 and for six weeks so it
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was like that was like the plan was to move Westward
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okay you know what I got a fact check in real time oh my God I'm real embarrassed because I'm sorry I feel like I'm gonna
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be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what happened the sino-japanese Warlock
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that's what I need to look up sino-japanese War
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the second you know what they were at work together they were not during that time yeah they
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were not at world war Japan obviously was fighting so so okay so Japan would
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have been fighting a two-front war with the access yes and then also fighting China during the
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second sino-japanese war that's what was going on that was 1937 and 1945 I think World War II was 39 to 45. yes okay that
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makes totally make sense because the the Nan King was earlier someone's been the second one
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that when they thought that they might bomb yeah that makes
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yeah okay all right well I'm gonna get a I'm gonna get a really big like board and just do
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a bunch of like red lines together and like go crazy here so you're technically not wrong you got to tell me exactly
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right they just won a part of World War II fine fine I accept that I'm sorry to do this
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that's her no no time um but something I wanted to also bring up during that is I worked at the Brooklyn Museum for a little bit in
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college and one of my jobs because it was a terrible terrifying time it should be in America it was like 2003. so I
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looked in the archives of the Brooklyn Museum like their communication archives to figure out what they did with the art
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during World War II and they brought it up to like a barn in Poughkeepsie and like hit it because they were worried
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that um if the Nazis attacked New York they were just for all the art which they did
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you know obviously all over Europe so even in America we had plans to hide our art wow yeah
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um so I have some fun conspiracy theories so there's one theory that it's
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actually not even built by Shah Jahan it was an 11th century Hindu temple
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um which sounds really fun because I read the article that had like 150 reasons why it's actually a Hindu temple and it was like people keep finding
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Hindu gods and like the corners and there's all these like secret places where things look like they're actually
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more like a Hindu origin than a Muslim origin but then I read again and figured out that it's actually a kind of
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nationalistic right-wing Indian conspiracy theory right now because they want to like reclaim it as a Hindu
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building when it isn't so I don't think that's true
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you don't associate nationalism of course everybody's of course every
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country has nationalists of course they do no I know I thought that too and I was like all right ring Conspiracy Theory what could that be I was like oh
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it's like a nationalistic conspiracy theory trying to be like oh it's like a pure you know Indian placement it's not
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but it's from a part in history that like is super important um they conspiracy theorists also think
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that there are 22 hidden rooms in the basement of the cosmo Hall which uh
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might not be true some people say it's true people doesn't um it's awesome and would you spend a
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night in one of those rooms yes
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no price there's there's no there's no you just have to like go in there and lay down a blanket and go to sleep
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it doesn't feel ghosty to me even though there's two dead bodies no I know but it still doesn't feel ghosty it
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feels like you'd be fine I feel like I'd be more scared to be in like an old timey Mansion full of stuff
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you know like when I think of like haunted houses I think of like you know like a big haunted mansion not
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like a empty room in the bottom of a big building so I disagree with you and
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here's exactly what I would have done as I would researching this I would have questioned how many people died building
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the Taj Mahal died inside of it later on because there's gotta be to me I feel like it
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would be a haunted place but I'd still do it because the story's so good the story's fantastic I spend the night in
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the Taj Mahal yeah of course incredible yeah and there is also another conspiracy that shot Jahan didn't want
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anyone to be able to recreate anything so beautiful so he blinded all of the architects who worked on it but I don't
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think that's true because like 20 000 people worked on it and like I was thinking of like the logistics of blinding 20 000 people and I feel like
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maybe the first one you'd be like I'm in charge by like 100 you'd be like this is gross and I'm standing next to your under eyeballs
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the logistics alone exactly it sounds exhausting so there's no way that's true
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um another fun conspiracy theory that was actually brought forth like the French dude who
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visited India in like the early 1900s ish was that Shah Jahan was planning to
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build an identical black building across the river for his own Mausoleum which would have been so cool like amazing how
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dope would that be to have like a big oh my God like a big black Taj Mahal that was like that one I'd be afraid to stay
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the night in that's super cool but that's probably not true it's such a
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flex yeah but that would be awesome um and that's it that's all I know I wish I knew more and there's definitely
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like a whole part of the top of India and like the sweeping
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rulers and cons and all of that that came through there that I wish I knew more about and I will eventually learn
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more about but it's if you look it up it's going to tell you it's a love story so let's just stick
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with that that it's a love story that's that's all I ever knew about it like I wouldn't say that my
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I I I would defer to like I'm probably best at American history followed by World War II World War one and then like
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the stories my dad has told me about Iranian history but so I'm not like incredibly well versed in history the
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the one thing I knew was that it was a it was a love story like he built it for a woman that he loved and
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I was actually surprised when you said that it's a Muslim thing yeah I didn't know that or that it was Persian that
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had Persian architectural influences I would have I don't know that seems relevant and yeah never knew that yeah
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and that's why you know why that the nationalistic thing is trying to make it be like oh was there always a Hindu
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thing when it wasn't but um it was just like it's a relic of a time of you know a lot of people
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taking over different parts of of you know of Asia and in different ways so what was Blair's take on it when she was
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there I didn't she she I know she went she went on a really cool um she's a vegan and she went on a tour
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from like vegetarian magazine had like a thing where you could like join a group of other vegetarians and travel around
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India for like three weeks that's really cool which sounds great and delicious and so she came home and you know we did
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we learned how to make like chapati like the bread like all different kinds of like things because I took an Indian cooking class with my sister-in-law one
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time and I haven't have a book about Curry and it's super fun I had a
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roommate who was Indian in college and that was like the first time I'd ever really tried Indian food and I was like
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how do you make this and she was like it's all ingredients you've never heard of you know my really special things
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like make it which is really cool so when Blair came back we did a lot of cooking with like but you have to go to
1:09:49
the store and buy like 16 new spices you've never heard of and they're all expensive and they're all expensive but
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it's uh here in Joshua Tree we have two Indian markets so really to go and get them yeah we have a great
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actually a really good place called Sam's Indian food and they sell pizza sub sandwiches and Indian food and it's
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delicious it's awesome I would I would say that if I was forced to be vegan or
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just purely vegetarian access to Indian food is the only way to go yeah
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absolutely it's so flavorful and so rich and delicious yeah so that's that's why
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she went but I'm sure she but she has that same picture everybody has where they're sitting in front of the fountain in front of the Taj Mahal and I'm sure that was like a two hour waited line of
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people being like get out of my way I gotta take a picture yeah yeah again touristy things not on
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my Hit List Taj Mahal definitely not on my hit list but it looks cool yeah yeah last time I went
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to Florence Italy I was like there are too many Americans here so I get it I did um I went to Lisbon last March and
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I don't think I interacted with a single Portuguese person while I was there it was it was just Brit's uh Amer tons of
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Americans uh Korean folks like it was it was just expats it was just supposed to
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be like an expat part of the part of the world now yeah absolutely yeah
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Yeah but I cool it's cool that you know stuff that we didn't
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necessarily learn about in school like a little bit deeper into these things and we'll keep talking about those things so any ideas anyone has of any like
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non-white stories I can tell please tell me because I only have about 40 ideas
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and if you want to do this for at least for over a year I'm gonna need more what is is there a red flag in this
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like the the person could possibly be the red flag is building the building in general
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like why did he have to do that like he could have just been you know we're gonna get buried together which is
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beautiful because we love each other like they he didn't have to build this big building so I feel like there's definitely an ulterior motive there
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that's not really talked about and that must be like just showing everybody the power of the empire
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Could Be Love bombing Could Be Love bombing but she's dead
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that's true people love bombing the people and also it's during that it's potentially during it's definitely
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during that plague time but also like he spent all his money on this thing and people were starving so that's not great
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yeah one billion dollars a lot the Cowboys Stadium cost 1.2 billion to
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build is it nice yes anyone buried in it no
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well we will never know Miss opportunity this is Tony Romo dead he can be buried there no no he's definitely not dead
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okay just a suggestion I think that they could barely Tony Romo and Cowboy
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stadium and lots of people would go yeah yeah I think uh Jimmy Hoff is
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supposed to be buried under the in just 50-yard line that's awesome let's dig that up cool
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Taylor well I know that we are late because of me and we went over so thank you again for your patience and uh next
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weekend 100 Regular Show recording schedule like nothing on Earth is going to stop me
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from from that okay okay well you tell that to the Texas power grid and keep your fingers crossed
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fingers are crossed nothing will stop me have a great trip to Florida and
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