Webster's Dictionary defines a 'Maniac' as "a person who behaves in a wildly foolish, reckless, or dangerous manner." And boy, do we have a story about some maniacs for you! In 2007, in Ukraine's 4th largest city, three young men went on the fastest murder spree we've ever heard of. Apparently, it's possible to see one of their murders that they filmed, "Three Guys - One Hammer," but we haven't seen it and don't recommend it. Join us for this horror story today on "Doomed to Fail." (Also, incidentally, Dnepropetrovsk is now called Dnipro, and you should read its Wikipedia page because it's fascinating. There's Catherine the Great, Many Occupations, two train bombs in 2007, nuclear weapon stockpiles, and in 2023 it's been bombed by Russia).
Webster's Dictionary defines a 'Maniac' as "a person who behaves in a wildly foolish, reckless, or dangerous manner." And boy, do we have a story about some maniacs for you! In 2007, in Ukraine's 4th largest city, three young men went on the fastest murder spree we've ever heard of. Apparently, it's possible to see one of their murders that they filmed, "Three Guys - One Hammer," but we haven't seen it and don't recommend it. Join us for this horror story today on "Doomed to Fail."
(Also, incidentally, Dnepropetrovsk is now called Dnipro, and you should read its Wikipedia page because it's fascinating. There's Catherine the Great, Many Occupations, two train bombs in 2007, nuclear weapon stockpiles, and in 2023 it's been bombed by Russia).
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americ ask not what your country can and we're back we're fast forwarding to
Wednesday it is now October 25th yeah yeah yeah you can listen to it
whenever everything's fine no one needs to know that you keep ruining this for
me Taylor I I'm working this I mean we're suppos are want be do you
want to be this is the day we're doing this we can talk about that I don't know I know we should talk about it um I like
it I like your sick continue do it again so uh so we're rejoining you on Wednesday this is
October 25th um I'm fars I'm joined here by Taylor and we are listening to Doom to fail and um I'm going to dive into
the True Crime side of Doom the fail today and I don't know what what's gotten into me but I've been like super
into like the Soviet block era or whatever region territory of like
criminals and so I'm going back there because as I mentioned on Monday obalon is my drink today which is Ukraine's
favorite beer in reality I'm actually drinking toach Cho Ranch Water it's hard salzer it's really good actually it's
not really good I'm just drinking it yes when in Austin at several places I was
like can I S water and there like Oh you mean toao like I'm [ __ ] I was like yes they like trying to be all fancy
self or water uh yeah okay I don't know I don't know see look how pretty the B can is that's cool pretty it is very
pretty we love we love Russia we love Russian history I don't know SE Killers love them all so yeah let's do we are
going not to Russia but to Ukraine which was part of the Soviet block back in the Soviet era so the
events will be discussed ing occurred at a modest sized city in Ukraine about a million people and during the time of
the events the name of the city was okay this is other thing Taylor I thought of I was like why do I keep picking places
where I can't pronounce anything because I was watching a video of someone talk about these names I was like okay just
like phonetically remember how that guy said that name and then like now I'm
about to read the name of the city and I'm like [ __ ] I don't know how to say that name but we're going to keep we're goinging through okay everybody just use
your imagination I'm the subject matter expert okay don't forget that I'm the one who counts here I'm what matters so
the name of the city
was did Propet it's just like it's just Conant I
don't get it like it's like it's like I don't understand it's like 15 characters and like there's three vows like how is
that how was that a I mean I don't have any context for like languages that have
non-roman alphabets but you do right like can you read fary no no I'm totally
illiterate completely utter toally illiterate yes but you speak it yeah I
speak it I speak it but it can't be yeah I think I think there's like I don't I don't I don't pretend to understand the
translation between like a Russian character and like a the letter A you
know so you know what's funny okay so I can speak farsy but I can't read or
write it I can read and write Russian but I can't speak it because I learned cilic in college when I was in Russian
class and so I can actually write it but I can't speak it that that makes no
sense join us join us next week for more fun for trivia okay so that was the name
of the city is the thing that I almost kind of set up there but it doesn't matter this part this part of the story doesn't actually matter because the name
of that city was changed in 2016 it is now a very simple dopro that's the name of it Doo great easy easy peasy this has
nothing to do with our story but I found the history kind of fascinating so I'm going to tell you about this tor so in 2015 the president of Ukraine signed a
law that forc the removal or renaming of anything associated with the Communist era of the Soviet Union so you know
like Progressive people now want to take down like statues they did that they they made that a law in UK that anything
had to do with the Soviets had to be taken down and so the suffix of the original name which I just pronounced
incredibly well was actually added to the city in 1926 it was done so in honor
of a Communist party leader named gregori petrovski so it once decommunization law
passed all references of gregori were removed including the subject name of the city which is now called the noo
easy peasy so anyways has literally nothing to do with the story onto destroyed that happens all the time
right my Segways no no no no I mean like espe like in Russia like wasn't staling gr
like letr and now it's like something else is it St Peters not staling maybe
because maybe it was St petersberg and then staling grod and then you know what I mean like that that happens all the time yeah yeah it's like who even cares
at this point name MCG GRE move on through their lives so onto the story today we are covering a relationship
from Hell which resulted in the brutal murder of 21 innocent people and they
were all committed by two 19y olds so I'm going to be discussing I don't know
what was you about that going well it's not good it wasn't like flowery and lovely and Butterfly I know I said you
after I I think I meant it to be about the 21 people but then it came out after the 19y olds and um yeah no but then I
was also like amazed that they're only 19 yeah it's kind of impressive actually anyway it was yeah like I I don't know
good for them they really being that young they follow their dreams you you gotta you get crit
dreams so we're gonna be discussing did noov Maniacs okay that name's I didn't
do good on that but if the name isn't familiar the name of the film they created probably
is this is like the I'm going to add like creepy music here before like like maybe like lightning crash or something
okay the name of the film is entitled three guys one hammer ooh you know who
I'm talking about I've not seen that you don't want to see it this this so this is an actual film I'm going to go super
into the details here later but this is one of those things where it's like you just don't want you don't want your eyes
to ever record these IM like this imagery I have not watched this by the way so I'm only going off of like what
other people said after they did watch it in terms of what's on the video and I just don't need that living my [ __ ]
head so I'm not GNA watch it so anyways yeah
we are going to start with our perpetrators first and foremost first we have Victor sayenko
which I'm going to refer to as Victor because russan names are hard to say uh Victor's childhood really wasn't the best uh it wasn't the worst amongst
insane insanely violent people but his his his wasn't great uh his dad was a factory worker he was working constantly
trying to support his family when he wasn't working he was doing the Russian pastime of drinking the mom seemed to not be able
connect very well with Victor and so he he was basically just left on his own he had siblings and his parents his parents
to whatever extent they paid attention to any of them pay attention to the siblings and Victor was kind of left on his own he turned out to be like a
pretty unremarkable student like he was he was just a nothing he was a nobody you know what's funny is it reminded me
of like my U remember last week I told you my high school reunion happened my 20 year and I was like looking at
pictures I was like who the [ __ ] is that who the [ __ ] is that who the [ __ ] I was like even when I read the name I was
like I was like man like you were just like a total non- entity in high school I have no [ __ ] I I could have S next
see people in home home room and had no clue so that's what this kid reminded me of yeah I mean yeah and a lot of people
like that they don't murder people and it's fine like I'm I'm a nobody to most people except like you and my children
you know so only to those three humans and one four four people and one
four but but he this kid this kid like basically yeah he was basically a nobody
he was super isolated he was bullied he was a [ __ ] loser basically uh and he had no ability to really fit in with
anyone and like with everyone that falls in this category he got super withdrawn and got like into like violence in like
Gore websites like you remember rotten.com yeah classic yeah I mean I was I I definitely was a victim of
rotten.com and so as were most people so he basically fell down this pattern of like not having any friends not having
anybody to socialize with being ignored by everybody and then he starts forming violent ideations and starts reinforce
them with visiting shock sites on the internet essentially so that's the start of the
origin story for Victor he would move on to make friends with the next perpetrator we're going to discuss his
name is eigor supron yuck [ __ ] nailed that one so eagor
and Victor were the same age and eigor was actually born on Hitler's birthday which he was like weirdly proud of like
this comes up over and over again in these [ __ ] videos they would make of like at one point like they would hold
like um a toothbrush up to like their nose to make like a Hitler stash and
they would do the sck hail and they like draw draw Nazi swastikas with like with
um the blood of animals they were like weirdly into hit I don't to Russ's R how
weird thing like the underground there with like f fascism is like really scary
I just learned something really weird about F fascism where the word comes from but it has to do with what I'm
talking about next week so I'll tell you then but I was like oh on that this is
like a really good lead in to next week so if you want to learn listener what
fascism originates from don't look it up we will tell you next week so Jo in next week just wait just wait tell your
friends so uh with igore he also had an Al alcoholic mother an absentee father
he was also mercilessly beled at school so you know one thing I I thought about when I I I went through I went down a
side Rabbit Hole here Taylor so as I was like going through reading about these kids it literally reminded me of like
School shooters and I thought to myself myself I was like dude like if you have a kid and he's bullying or she's
bullying another like [ __ ] beat the [ __ ] out of your like you have my permission if your kid is bullying another kid beat the [ __ ] like kids who
are victim this way supp to work listen I know more about raising children listen I'm
telling you guys how to do this um but like I I legitimately think that
like kids being victimized is like most of why things go wrong later on in life
like it it's all we kind I was reading about the Uvaldi kid that kid who shot up that school the elementary school and
he apparently had a stutter and his parents couldn't afford to buy him like nice clothes so he only had like a limited warde so kid just [ __ ]
mercilessly bullied that kid I'm not saying it's right I'm saying like there's reasons why people do the things
they do no I mean I I don't know because I feel like there's I like read oh like
when after like I don't know there's so many school shootings it's hor horrific after one of them someone was like you
should be nice to people who are not like you blah blah blah and I'm like
it's not everybody else's responsibility to make sure someone isn't a school shooter you know plenty of people get bullied and don't shoot this
everybody yeah I think some might be like there's outliers my point is why
even you're right I could get drunk and drive my car 100 miles per hour on the highway a lot of times I'm not going to
crash but why [ __ ] RIS like why bother like what just if kid is being a dick beat the [ __ ] out of your kid like
literally just do that just but like get help get help I looked at the Adam L kid
and he was also one of those kids who [ __ ] sat in his he darkened his room he would put trash bags up on the window
so your light wouldn't come in you just sit at home and play video games of like shooting people and
like again like don't let your kid self isolate like these are not good any whatever PSA over yeah self-isolation
thing is a big thing like that's a problem yes yes we are social humans are
social if you're if if you're feeling isolated listen to this podcast if you have friends who are isolated tell them to listen to this podcast it's kind of
like they're hanging out with me and Taylor and we're great people yeah yeah moving on so when the boys were 14 thank
you yes so we always get around to agreeing it just takes
like a a while agree on like most things yes you're right but it takes a second that's why that's why we're fun it's the
banter it's wa exactly exactly so going back to eigor and
Victor so when they were 14 they finally met became friends and realized that they like had this like Kindred Spirits
in each other they did some stuff that was kind of cute like it was a little bit standby meish so one thing they did
was that one of them had like a huge fear of heights well I mean that they
both kind of had fear of heights they lived on the 14th floor of this apartment building and so what they did
was they decided that they're going to overcome their fear of heights so they go out onto this balcony on this 14th
floor of this building and they go over the railing to the other side and just stand on the other side of the railing
looking down which is like ballsy as [ __ ] like that is kind of impressed by
like a 14year old d i I mean I guess you have to be 14 to do that because like
there's no chance I'm terrified of heights there's no chance I would do that yeah they would basically do like
sort of weird Kit stuff like this their hob Hobbies would gradually grow to be a little bit darker over over time and
this is around the time when a third like minor character much important character in their lives gets introduced
his name is Alexander xansa XA hcha something like that I'm gonna call him
Alex so Alex was like kind of the normal one which like basically contributes to
why he's a minor character in all this he had a normal childhood like his parents raised him they were around they
were normal they weren't like raging alcoholics he did well in school he was part of social activities he was doing
extracurricular stuff like he was mostly a normal kid so he also met Victor and
Igor when they were all 14 and Alex had like a huge fear and aversion towards
blood so that was his thing and Victor and eigor told them about their little
balcony experiment so they decided to help fix Alex's blood problem which I don't know why you have to fix that like
that's not like I mean how often you yeah yeah the options are just like don't [ __ ] like if you have a paper
cut have someone else tend to it like a something with deal so they they decided to round up this
this part you might like no that's that's being I shouldn't said that so they I TR the previous statement they
decided to round up stray dogs and like just torture them to death I don't wish
any ill will on dogs I just think it's weird to have them in the office and I know I'm the minority on that one but I
feel like there's more people like me who are afraid to speak up because they're going to be persecuted do you feel persecuted right
now I do a little bit people like think I'm a bad person and I'm like I'm a really good person and I don't wish any
El Pur dogs and if I could have one I probably would but I can't so just I
don't want to be near them fair enough uh I I retract my statement so thank you
they would Round Up stray dogs and they would hang them from trees they would cut their bellies open they would dismal
them they would record all this stuff hold on speaking of dogs being annoying you might are going wild over there your
dogs can hear you saying that yeah wait you didn't tell me what you named the old dog what did you name the old dog Ruth Ruth cuz she's old she's so old
she's like it's like an old lady that's so sweet yeah she's a cutie that's really cute yeah she's sweet okay so
they would Round Up stray dogs they would hang them from trees they would cut them open they would record all of this stuff they would and this is the
part where like it came up they were drawing SWAT stickers because like they would take pictures of this they would recorded they would take pictures of it they would draw swastick with the blood
of the dead dogs like it was like little over the top the worst one that I read was they found this poor little white
kitten and and they nailed it to a [ __ ] cross alive no yeah and then
they shov they shoved a bunch of glue and foam into its mouth and as it was screaming and then they started like
using it for target practice with their little little 22 pistol it's really gross no definitely not good and you
know what I was thinking about the the swastika thing I don't obviously like
like with that and like the Confederate thing like those people lost like Hitler they ve very much lost like why would
you be excited about that it's an ideology that's the thing with like there's something about that ideology
especially in Russia That's like [ __ ] scary like I don't know what it is but like there's an underr to it like yeah
like it's it's like it's like people who like have nothing and I don't know I do think there's a big part of that which
is like if you were raised to be like a somebody in your country and you're a [ __ ] loser then you
just gravitate towards that dangerous ideology like no out and proud white
supremacist is like a brain doctor doing really well you know yeah yeah totally
makes so again brain doctor is that what they're called think
you okay so moving on G through this thing so uh again remember recorded
everything and that's basically the reason why they ended up being as famous as they ended up becoming so they
started going pass animals into human murder on June 25th of 2027 or sorry of
2007 so the one thing to note is that this three was like frenetic it was like
hold on so between the start in the end of the murders was uh about 30 days it
was like W crazy fast it was crazy fast so they started the human murders on
June 25th of 2007 on that day the way it's been narrated was that this 3 33-year-old woman named Yak Katrina was
walking home after having tea with a friend eigor and Victor were walking by her and eigor was holding a hammer and
seemingly on a whim and like seemingly not premeditated as they walk by each other eagor just swings the hammer
around just backs her in the head and just [ __ ] beats her to death with it so oh my God I don't know I don't know
there's no indications there's so many rumors about this I'll talk about the rumors later but there's no Rhyme or
Reason behind it like there was no obvious motive behind any of this like there was no money involved like nothing it was just she was walking by and he
was like well [ __ ] I got a h I'm just gonna do it oh my God it's awful but
like like that that started kind of the blood frenzy so an hour after killing
Yak Katrina they attacked guy named Roman while he was asleep he was a homeless guy asleep on a bench they beat his face so bad in with the with the
hammer that he was unrecognizable nobody knew who the [ __ ] this guy was until they able to check his pockets oh no they took about a week long break then
on July 1 they attacked someone named yenia and a guy named Nicolia they were
basically two it was two separate instances this not a couple there was together or anything and they basically killed and bashed both their faces in at
the same time or on that day then four days five days later July six they
killed three people so one was a guy named eigor he was an Army Reserve guy
who was walking home from a nightclub and he was beat to death with a hammer which is like which shows like it wasn't
just like defenseless people like it was like like eigor sounds like he like a normal like he could offend it for
himself but they just didn't give a [ __ ] the rest of them don't seem that way the rest of them seem like they're just like horrible um like victim like there's
like vulnerable people basically yeah on that day okay so after
eagor they killed y Elena who was 28-year-old security guard they were also beaten to death or she was also
beaten to death then they attacked a mother named Valentina killing her she was a mother of like three and had like
a disabled husband or something and she was just working to you provide for the family a day later on July 7th they
attacked two 14-year-old boys killed one maed the other but not so bad that he didn't survive that kid's name is Vadim
he's going to be important later so remember that name his name is Vadim that kid escaped into the woods were
people like a afraid that people know this is happening so here's the thing police never police had an investigation
running when these bodies started being found they had an investigation running but they never told the general public
and so what ended up happening was the rumors just spread amongst the public themselves where they talked amongst
each other and were like something is going on like basically yeah towards the
middle of like July of 2007 nobody would walk around after dark alone like it was
it was like a gnome thing so the the community was self- policing essentially yeah so five days after
killing that one kid and attacking the other one and him surviving they killed a guy I'm going to cover in a lot more
detail later on so I'm just going to drop the fact that it was 5 days after this one killing that they killed this
other guy I'll come back to him two days later this not like a record for the fastest anyone's ever killed people I
don't know like I so I did I you didn't hear anything like this yeah it's crazy it it was it was like a blood fry was
wild I can't think of anyone that I don't know yeah I can't think of anyone they killed like this many people this
quickly because I'm gonna actually stop talking about the murders and just say and then 12 people died in a minute
because wow I can't keep saying this so yeah two days after the guy I'm going to cover later on July 14th they killed a
45-year-old woman named Natalia they shoved her off her scooter as she rode past them and then beat her to death
with a hammer that's same day they killed the homeless guy named Nikolai so like they're doing multiples of a day
and then again I'm not going to say whatever over the next seven days they killed about 12 more bodies showed up
that were all beaten to death in the face with a hammer so take it for where you will
wow there's stories out there about her them killing a pregnant woman which they did which they actually did kill a
pregnant woman but the stories that you read out there are that they cut her open and took the fetus out of her but
like rum s like that is not part of any of the actual investigation reports the
police produce it's like more of like embellishment like fantasy embellishment of like you know internet hor [ __ ] so um
my God so July 7th is the day I mentioned earlier which is when those
two 14-year-old boys were attacked that's when police started getting like really involved in this and thinking there's something going on that's
connecting all these together so one part of this investigation was a
arrested that kid viad that 14-year-old because they thought that he was the one responsible for killing his friend and
apparently they beat the [ __ ] out of this kid like they like 14 they beat the the yeah crazy so Vadim in the middle of
being coerced into trying to give a confession being beaten beaten to death uh he gave a detailed description of his
of his attackers and police started to basically put together that like hey the way this kid was attacked and the way
that these bodies were found all kind of look alike it was it was two guys a hammer you know so on and so forth not
only that but during the death during the murder of Natalya there were two kids who were hidden who witnessed the
murder and they also showed up to the police station and gave a detailed description that matched with's description of the of the killers on
July 23rd eigor one of the perpetrators he tried to sell sell a cell phone he
lifted off of murder victim at a pawn shop by that point the police had found the guy's body they knew had a cell
phone they knew that the cell phone wasn't on him and so they basically put a tracer on it and so whenever the the pawn shop owner turned it on to see if
it it's functional uh it pinged the tower they triang it where it was they go to the pawn shop the pawn shop the
boys are in the pawn shop trying to at the time like when this is going on and so they're literally arrested they're
the cash register apparently Alex uh the friend I mentioned earlier who had their aversion
of blood he was uh arrested at his home and during his arrest it was found that
he had a bunch of items that was lifted off of the different the different victims he was
trying to like get rid he trying to flush stuff down the toilet and stuff like that obviously they're charged with a ton of crimes so igore is charged with
21 counts of murder eight counts of armed robbery and one count of animal cruelty Victor has 18 murders five
robberies and one count of Cruelty Alex has two counts of armed
robbery because I didn't mention this like in the middle of all this they were also just like sticking people up and robbing them so like that was a lesser
of their crimes and that's where Alex was very involved so Victor and Alex confessed again uh it being Ukraine I'm
sure there was some corigin around around but given the fact that there was video evidence like it didn't really
matter they were going to get convicted anyways eagor maintained his innocence saying he didn't do any any of this so
because they videotaped their crimes there really wasn't much of a defense for eigor the only defense that he
really had was trying to claim Insanity like an insanity defense and I looked up
what the insanity defense is in in Ukraine I don't actually know what it is I couldn't find legal documentation on
how they reference it so I'll just like articulate how it's defined here in the US which is like probably similar to
their so in the US insanity is established by proving that someone due to mental defect was unable to control
their actions or that they were unable to understand the wrongfulness of their actions so basically let's say like you
chop someone's head off like you get into a fight and you like cut their head off your best bet to like go to a cushy
mental hospital for the next like six years is like wear their head like a hat like walk around wear their hat on a hat
and you should be fine if you try and hide the fact that you killed that person and bury them or do something
then it proves that you knew what you did was wrong and that you're not insane so
right that's how you get out of that in this case yeah they knew it was wrong because they weren't like prancing
around with like the int TRS of dogs around them like they were like just videotaping themselves and being jerky
jerk off stealing stuff and trying to pwn it off to the store so oh my God and they tried to cover their tracks was the
idea so I'm G to get to that one victim July 12th that is the Infamous three
guys one hammer video that guy's name is Sergey yatsenko
so Sergey was a 48-year-old cancer survivor and he did he actually had a
profession but because of his cancer he couldn't actually work very well and he was just basically learning how to talk
again when this event ended up happening he had gone through his chemo he done all the stuff the surgeries all that so
he was just getting back on the menend he was married he had kids he actually had one grandchild as well and we don't
really know the details of how things came about all we know is what's in the
video and what's in the video which again didn't watch not going to you can if you want it starts with sgate on his
back in a wooded area and he is being cracked in the face
with a hammer that's inside of a plastic bag oh my God one of the boys takes a
giant screwdriver and plunges it into his eyeballs and into his stomach and they do this
multiple times and then the other boy continues beating him in the face in the head with the
hammer and they throughout all this They're laughing they're talking they're joking around with each other at one
point in in Russian they reference how weird it was that he was still kind of
breathing when the screwdriver got plunged into his
brain so they're like God they're discussing this uh the one thing that I
read was that the worst part of this video is the sound of gurgling of blood
as he's trying to breathe it was it was it's a really really bad video and throughout this whole thing they're
laughing and joking about it and it sounds like they're doing this next to a pretty major road because you can hear a car and at one point it sounds like they
basically take a pause because it sounds like a car is getting kind of close to them and so they take a breather and
then the car the sound goes away and they continue on with their melee so oh my God
that was a video of that was played in court by the prosecution it caused a ton
so nobody knew this existed until the day was played in court so I can't imagine this wasn't like a jury trial it
was a bench trial with like a panel of five judges but I can't imagine like seeing this [ __ ] they were watching this
they were watching the animal torture videos there was obviously a correlation between this murder and like the 20
preceding murders where they're all bashed in the face of the hammer and they're all recorded on it there was
actually video of them attending the funeral of the people they killed and they would like no be flicking off the I
mean I I looked at the still images of this because I didn't want to watch the video but there's like still images of them flicking off like the corpse of the
people they killed at their own was there's such horrible [ __ ] monsters like there absolutely for world and so
oh my God there's all this controversy Igor's uh dad is a lawyer himself and so
he took on his defense and he was saying that hey there was other people that could have done this there was like it
was like dude you know what man assume that they didn't kill the other 20 and they only killed this guy in the cast of
the dogs they should still [ __ ] go to jail forever like like they're on video the judge actually asked one of them at
trial they were like is this you on the video and he was like eh it's kind of hard to tell and the judge was like you
have eyes don't you like obviously it was you I'm looking your face I'm looking the video this is like 2008 they
have [ __ ] like crazy CGI where they're like recreating things like right no it's definitely them even if
you did it today it would still look kind of fake so yeah it was obviously yeah people don't do that off exactly
exactly so the long story short is that Ukraine much like I mentioned last week
with Russia they don't have a death penalty and so these two ended up
getting life sentences they're apparently doing great in jail like they're parent parents their parents are
like talking about how like they're being treated really well everything's fine like I don't I don't know why they
get the respect they get but they're serving a life sense prison and Al They
together they are in the same prison but they are not in the same cell got it but
Alex he ended up getting a nine-year sentence he was released in 2019 and so he's out running around in Ukraine he's
apparently married he apparently has kids now and I don't know by all it counts Alex is like I mean yeah I guess
you're kind of Guilty By Association like don't be friends with people like this but like it sounds like he didn't do that much wrong he just like robbed a
bunch of people at gunpoint which who who hasn't for that who hasn't done
that so yeah these guys are going to be in prison for the rest of our lives I forgot what it was it was like 15 life
it doesn't matter like it's 15 life sentences they have enough life sentences where they're never going to get out of jail I don't get this one
because so there was there's discussions around like what could have driven them
to do it obviously they were stealing stuff off the bodies but you can steal stuff without doing what they did they they were they had a perverted sense of
desire for like violence and so one stipulation was that they were going to
like sell these as like stuff videos or something like right like what were they doing the videos for like were they like
yeah like where did they find them like in their rooms I don't know like on their cell phones like they didn't
really have cell phones like with really good cameras so was it like a physical camera it was okay so the quality I've
seen still images of the videos enough to like sense like this was not done on like a 2007 cell phone because a 2007
cell phone wouldn't look this good and it doesn't look good but it looks good enough to where it's not on the 2007
cell phone so there were mean so it's probably on like a yeah like they probably had a camcord they recording on
um and there was um what was it there was 40 in total they were covered I think it
was 48 minutes uh of videos of them there was other murders that were recorded but they weren't recorded in
this graphic of a detail this was done in broad daylight you could clearly see their faces you clearly see the guy on
the ground like it was just it was an brutal to the next level and that's why that one got the most popularity the one
thing I couldn't figure out though is why it's called three guys one hammer because by all accounts it was just Igor
and Victor by all accounts Alex wasn't there so I don't know why they call it that I never figure that out I'm not GNA
watch the video yeah I'm not going to watch I don't even want to look it up I kind of I don't I don't want to
know yeah yeah that's horrible yeah terrible [ __ ] it's weird it's like the
stuff in Russia is like so much [ __ ] it's like there's a weird callous to
life it seems like there I don't know maybe I'm just like projecting but that's what it feels like I think a callousness to life is
exactly right yeah so so yeah that's story like so cold and horrible up there
for everyone also these bangs on this one of them should be in jail for this
haircut I don't think those are bangs I don't know what that is but I don't know I call if I call those bangs what I
think about bangs I think about Zoe de Chanel not that guy he looks terrible yeah the gross looking I think okay so
I'm gonna do this it's really the no you go to you go you tell me what are you gonna do I'm gonna step away from Russia
next week because I feel like I'm trying to do too many names I can't pronounce but this um I went like a YouTube rabbit
hole and this was one of the things that I came out of with it and was like it's too it it's like reach enough
to where I kind of remember it and it's like gross and groy and it's like two sickos that came together for wrong
reasons again just be nice to people like who knows these guys probably would have done this anyways but
like it's hard to think about like draping yourselves in the intrs of a dog
if you're like the you know homecoming King right like you got all stuff going
on sure I mean it's not everybody else's responsibility to make sure everyone's
fine but it's also like you know you shouldn't you you shouldn't bully people in any case you know you should be nicer
to each other and I don't know it's it's crazy to me
how fast this was so fast it was like two three four single night Moving On
Moving On Moving On like yeah yeah terrible terrible friendship usually just you don't see it like that you
don't see the best yeah it's definitely like the two of them together and like would they' have done it on their own probably not you know so the two of them
together for whatever reason where like that was it or like maybe one of them was like needed the other person just to
like give them permission to do this somehow you know in the in the middle of like uh my whole theory of
like victimized kids do awful [ __ ] I was like I went down uh re researching the
Sandy Hook shooting and reading about that kid and man that kid was [ __ ] up
like he was do you know he had anorexia and Noosa when they found him he was 112
pounds like his body was 112 pounds I thought that makes sense I've only seen his face but it was very thin like he
was like he had like every disorder he had like autism he had schizophrenia he had anorexia like he had everything and
one of the theories was his mom realized she like heyy this kid is just sitting in the basement and just playing video
games he doesn't see sunlight he doesn't talk to anyone and so what she was going to do was like buy an RV and like go on
a road trip with him so he could like see other parts of the world and maybe like it sounds like she was kind of
trying to do something to like Snap him out of it yeah it doesn't sound like like he
killed her first right yeah I don't know that it scary it's also scary to like I
mean I guess for like igore the third kid like if your good kid gets in gets all like tangled up with bad kids you
know doesn't like that can happen too which is terrible and it's like they were there of course so they're not like
innocent also like Alex was the better one Alex was the one who was only armed robberies
yeah and he had good parents in this thing yeah Alex yeah
like I feel like he's he was just like sucked into this by these guys are like we we'll help you get over your fear of
blood in the most bloody way possible he's like I'm okay I don't need to get over this fear was rational yeah I'm
gonna be an accountant it's fine that story was awful like rereading Sandy
Hook I was like holy [ __ ] like I mean that was like that was 11
years yeah that was that was 11 years ago it was [ __ ] crazy um just absolutely the worst thing
possible yeah yeah anyways um that's my
story for today I will Vier us away from Russia because I need to stop doing
people whose names I can't pronounce uh and yeah next week I'll come with
something something new somewhere somewhere new I'm gonna go I'm gonna go way back again I'm gonna go I'm gonna go to ancient times next week um pers
pers I know I need to go to okay I'm going to go to anient Persia sometime soon I can't find anything in ancient
Persia but I will find something and because I promised you I would and I definitely will and I'm super interested
so yeah if you are an ancient Persian historian please give me an email so that you can help me pick up a story but
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