Join us as we step into the twisted world of Raymond Fernandez & Martha Beck in our latest podcast episode! These 'Lonely Hearts' found each other in good times and bad, forging a connection that led to both love and murder. This is a story best listened to in black and white to immerse yourself in the authentic 1940s setting. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com
Join us as we step into the twisted world of Raymond Fernandez & Martha Beck in our latest podcast episode! These 'Lonely Hearts' found each other in good times and bad, forging a connection that led to both love and murder. This is a story best listened to in black and white to immerse yourself in the authentic 1940s setting.
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is known for judging people's wine drinking behaviors Taylor no I well I think typically I
think white wine you drink it colder like I don't really like when there's like a cold red wine when they someone
gives it to you cold I'm like I don't know I don't love this I like want it to be warm but like who knows
well we can we can we can have this out with soraa in like three weeks or four
weeks in person oh cool we will do that s uh so we are oh wait do I have to
do the intro wait why don't you do the intro this time you never do the intro okay okay well you did the intro
hello everyone welcome to Doom to fail the podcast where we cover historical or True Crime relationship or event that
was doomed to fail my name is Taylor I'm joined here by my friend fars fars how you doing
today that that was
acceptable you crushed it you absolutely crushed it I'm almost out of the job at this point I'm doing great I'm wondering
who is the celebrity we hate this week besides just temp Lake who else is there um
who's done something that is deplorable wait are you is this are you
baiting me for your topic no it's a new segment I'm starting called the celebrity of the week oh okay
um I don't know who do we hate this week wait I I didn't have one prepped we
already talked about Justin tber Lake because I finished Britney Spears's bio talked about Jess gel because of the
antia thing what else [ __ ] I don't know nobody else has drawn my IR this week all right
well I'm sure something will happen we'll sit on it for a little bit I also
Taylor want you to know that I came up with another multi-part series idea this week and I was going to do it for this
episode and then I realized that it is going to take [ __ ] like months of
research because it is like very well I'm excited that's very fun
more stuff coming up so we can go ahead and dive into an
actual topic that is substantive to the point of this podcast which is two
people who came together and did awful things and that is true Prime which I've deviated from into engineering disasters
into submarine disasters for some [ __ ] reason all of it but this time I'm going back to our bread and
butter okay I'm ready are you excited I'm super excited I don't know where my
notes are oh God just wing it I don't know where I put all these I
just did some oh there we go okay okay so Taylor I'll start with like the
premise of how I started here so you know first off it's not called the
wait what is wait hold on hold on I just had a stroke hold
on I do have address everyone if you're worried I do have the ability to call 911 if far as like I lose fars in the
middle of this no no we're back we're back so everybody is it just me or did
is the name of that serial killer they caught the architect is his name is it the gigo beach
killer the Gilgo Beach killer okay Gil okay okay so I was listening to a
podcast listening to it but you're not seeing it I see I see I see I see yes okay so yeah so I was listening to the
podcast about this guy earlier and they kept saying that Gilgo Beach killer and I was like this guy's not trustworthy he
can't even [ __ ] say the name of the beach right and then and I Googled it and was like oh it's it is I've been
calling a gigo beach and it's gig Gilgo Beach so I'm WR so yeah but anyways I
got my idea for this off of that podcast I listen to not about that but about um
the whole concept of a Lonely Hearts killer have you heard of these guys I I can imagine tell me more yes so
it is a essentially guys like this Max hman guy the Gilgo Beach killer who
lures people in because of like sexuality or what there's like multiple
versions of this the most perverse version is like where you bring lure somebody in because you're like really trying to like tell them you love them
and want to be with them but really you're just out to kill them or steal their [ __ ] and it was a really good
podcast actually but it brought up uh this guy named Philip marov who's a Craigslist ad killer remember that guy
oh I think so but he K people who did like massages yeah yeah so he so he
would kill like prostitutes he would find prostitutes in the One ads of Craigslist and then lure them to like a
hotel somewhere he actually only killed one person he he was an idiot so this guy was like okay it's this say nothing
do my story I just G on R this guy this guy Philip marov he's The Craigslist
Killer and over the span of like five days he led three women to his hotel room like prostitutes and then robbed
two of them and killed one of them and he was caught two days later like he we say sex
workers totally I I think we say sex workers fair fair we'll call sex workers but he um but he was like is he the one
who was engaged to some one was like yeah this this guy was so pathetic so like I looked him up and I was like God
you look exactly like the guy would imagine to this he he was engaged he was about to start medical school and then
he just just started like for the the one week his fiance was out of town it was just like it was just such a cliche of like I have it all made I'm just like
a rich kid and D's going to take care of everything he's had this whole he started committing trying to commit
suicide constantly the day his fiance broke up with him in jail which was like he's indicted on a murder charge he like
tried to commit suicide that day and then he tried to commit suicide again on the first day that their wedding was
supposed to be and then a year passes and he actually commits suicide on the oneyear anniversary when they should
have gotten married so like at 24 years old like he was just like I don't know just gross but anyways yeah so that put
me on the concept of the Lonely Hearts killer and so I went back a little bit in time into the
1940s is um to find a couple that were
basically this concept the Lonely Hearts tiller their name was ramond Fernandez
and Martha Beck so I'm going to start by discussing them as individuals and then how they came together and what they
ended up doing cool cool okay yeah cool so the main antagonist so you're going
to get upset with me over this but I'm just going to deal with it
so start with that so Martha Beck uh she
was born in 1920 in Florida her childhood basically sounds
like a tuba player just followed her around everywhere she apparently had some medical
condition that caused her to gain a ton of weight and so she was basically an outcast I looked up pictures of her
she's objectively huge by even today's standard so back then she must have been huge huge because I looked at the
average weight classes not the weight classes I looked at the average weights of people back then and men and women
both weigh 17 to 20 pounds heavier today than they did back then and this woman
was [ __ ] sorry this woman was big she's big for today's standards so she was [ __ ] huge by 1940
standards what's her name again Mar Martha Beck she looks like Mike
DEA uh and sorry I'm on one right
now so anyways we all it's fascinating though like we all weigh like so the
average woman weighed 130 back then and they weigh 166 now the average of man weighed 160 back then and now we weigh
95 I'm yeah I mean I think I think we know why that happened I'm a bit of an
outlier in this just so we're clear so I'm not fat
shaming anybody I'm just saying that okay so like long long story short is
like because of her weight she couldn't work she couldn't attract men she her she was sexually abused as a kid
like her mom beat like this woman sounds like she had a horrible horrible life like she's a horrible person so let's
not feel bad for her because I'm going to tell you what she ended up doing with people but also she sounds like somebody
that just should have been just bashed against The Rock as an infant because she was gonna have a shitty life
anyways well it sounds like she had a shitty life and maybe didn't have a chance and there's also plenty of people
out there that find back checks attractive so I just want to say that out loud this is not a civil rights show
I don't people would find her attrative you don't find her attractive but it
doesn't mean that you can't find someone anyone can find someone to like them that's all continue that's true I found
people like me and I'm grossly overweight so ex you
know why are you looking at me like that you can't see Taylor's face she's making a she's making like a d I'm smiling at
you because I'm like I don't want I don't ever want to wait shame anybody and I know that KN you knew going to argue about but I feel like that's
weight is not an excuse for being like nobody loves me because that's not
true okay but it's not the only thing that was going on in her life we'll continue that is that is not true she
okay let me give you different examples when she was coming up there was no Instagram there was no internet there's
barely telephones there's Western Unions she can't go to the next town and find the guy that's really into her for who
she is she's like stuck in her town and like that's where it gets worse it actually gets a lot worse than this I
just think you could find a guy there but I don't but I don't I don't even feel like this something that is her problem so
continue okay so moving on moving on she ultimately because she she
couldn't find work in Florida she actually had a Nursing degree couldn't find work as a nurse they intimated that
this had to do with her weight I don't know why but it did apparently so she ended up moving to California and there
she began working as a nurse and she ended up getting pregnant with a kid there like a one night stand type of
situation the father refused to get involved D and so given the era that we're in at this time she told everyone
that the father was killed in World War II which like she was like kind of
almost right because apparently this guy when he found out that she was pregnant he threw himself into San Francisco Bay
to kill himself and apparently he got dragged
out and rescued and then was like okay suicide isn't the answer I maybe will
hopefully go to war and get killed but running away from Martha is the only answer and so he just
disappeared to his credit though he was a serviceman so he was an actual Army
person so she was kind of close like he almost could have been a Dead
Soldier well I mean I think he did the right thing by just leaving and not killing her yeah yeah exactly we've
talked about that before being like don't kill your spouse just leave just leave and it seems easier to do maybe
then but get the [ __ ] out of there okay so we're painting a picture here of Martha who now in the 19 40s is with
child with no husband like not a good situation to be
in yeah I'm not saying I think it's right I'm saying that's the nature of the
time so she tells everyone that the dad was killed the father was killed in war
which is like kind of like an awesome trick because at that time everyone was really sad for and because all this happened in California and she ends up
moving to Florida nobody can check her story anyways she was in California she gets pregnant with a guy that's her husband apparently and like it's an
awesome story no I think most of the human history it seems pretty easy to make
[ __ ] up seems harder now because of the internet but you could just like make [ __ ] up seems kind of fun think of how
many cakes and cookies you would get oh man I should make up a fake
wife I feel like you'd send me something Taylor to K to kill her so that we would
feel bad for you is that where you're going no no like makeup a dead wife and then I get cakes sent to me well you
could join my app widow or won't you then how we verify people are really
widows it all comes back around to our get-rich very slow scheme of widower W
you I love it but then if you'll find out you're actually a widow then they're want the
cakes back right that's not great yeah exactly what I send people
cake oh this is gonna be like a three- Hour
podcast so we um we're back in Florida so has a baby husband's dead fake
husband's dead I'm in Florida husband's a war hero he's dead we're good at this
time she meets a bus driver who knocks her up so once again she's pregnant and
is with child the bus driver to his credit decides that I'm going to do the honorable thing I'm going to marry you
for 6 months he files for divorce 6 months after they get married so he was like in this is like in anal
situation so now you have this woman
who is has two children is single and is
essentially a social Pariah for multiple reasons and she does what you do in that
situation at that time is you put a personal ad in the paper seeing you want
to find someone to date and be with so like the versional all dating we have today
essentially that's when she attracts our next antagonist Raymond
Fernandez Raymond was born in 194 in Hawaii so was about 6 years older than
Martha his family moved to the mainland and Seldon Connecticut given how early in time this was there's not a ton about
his childhood out there other the fact that he got like black LED in the head
pretty bad so apparently he was on a ship when a giant steel hatch fell and crushed in his frontal lobe so like the
front Lo is where they jostle around when you have a labot like it changes your personality pretty significantly
and by all accounts this is the time when his personality kind of changed he like went from being like kind like a
normal dude to being well they said he went from like a normal dude to being kind of like a womanizer being really
into like Voodoo and black magic and [ __ ] like that which kind of sounds cool but probably not the way that he practiced it
so that's Raymond's situation kind of sounds
cool I mean I'm not I'm not gonna tip my hat too far
[Laughter] but uh it's also worth noting that along the way he had a wife and four children
in Spain in the middle of all this by the way so there you go got it uh
Raymond's work was to essentially like it was it was foolproof his job was to
answer personal ads from women take them out make them like him and then steal
whatever they had that was his job that's what he did fulltime Raymond anther answers Martha want ad and from
what I can gather Rayman kind of had some game um I don't think it would have taken very much to woo someone like
Martha but whatever it took Raymond with his dented brain and fractured skull were able to win her over so Raymond at
this time was living in New York so I guess is like national press or something like doing one ads Across the
Nation and by this point Raymond had pretty much abandoned his children and wife in Spain so he was like I'm done
I'm done with this old [ __ ] I'm now I have this cool apartment in in New York and he eventually convinces Martha to
come stay with him at his um apartment in New York but he tells Martha look
this is not like a kid situation like I literally like I bed my four children we
don't need to add two of yours to this mix so what Martha does is before she
lives Florida she goes to the Salvation Army which I didn't know this was a thing you can drop kids off of the Salvation Army did you know
that you can drop kids off at a lot of places yeah um I think the Army is is
like supposed to be more of a um CU it's like a yeah I think that was
like what it was for I think in the beginning was like four things like that like during the Depression I'm making that up but I think that's true and now
you I know you can drop babies off at like hospitals or fire departments um
there's you can just drop them off there's places like you know like I think we talked about how in China before they had like the one baby Rule
and there's places in China where someone people have like mailboxes for babies like just drop it off like please don't kill it just drop it off you know
a lot of like churches and um those kind of organizations will just take babies because if people can't take care of them like you want like you can right
now in America you can no questions asked walk into a hospital hand the first person you see working there your
a baby and walk walk out and you have the right to just disappear and they do that kill their
babies it's a good thing yeah okay yeah apparently you could also do that with
the Salvation Army so parents if you don't want your kids put them in a mailbox a certain age is there's
definitely like a limit you can't drop like a 14-year-old off I swear to God if my parents knew that was an option they
they probably would do it to me right now here we arm too late Mom and
Dad so Martha goes to Salvation Army drops her two children off and then makes it all the way North to New York
to be with Raymond and um I just can't imagine what the [ __ ] Raymond's apartment was like or what it smelled
like it could not have been nice to be in that room Raymond ends up telling Martha how
he makes money and Martha didn't seem bothered by it she decided that she kind of wanted wanted it on it and that she would act and pose as Raymond's sister
because if you recall from when we talked about the Moors murders having a female accomplice is like really great for like looking not like a crazy person
like you just just really helps a lot totally and and so this kind of like
escalated thing so Raymond and Martha obviously they were in a sexual relationship I think in Martha's mind
they were like really really together and Raymond's mind he was like great like this is fine like I can just do whatever I want and she'll draw more
women to me and it's all good that's how I interpret their relationship
so it's kind of implied that most cases Ray would do the robbing and stealing before any consummation could be had but
that he would also sleep with some of these women which would was in the same apartment usually that him and Martha
were living in essentially and this would make Martha super super pissed off so apparently like wait why was he
sleeping with those women who well he would have sex with them and then steal their
money got it got it got it got it got it got it got so he would he would take whatever he could in that situation
so Martha obviously was not a huge fan of this one of these women was a 66-year-old woman named
Jan and she ended up like Raymond would like wasn't just like robbing her like
he was stealing from her gradually and so Raymond convinced Janet the 66y old
woman that she should come live with him that they're going to get married they're going to be engaged and a cage couple and so it's kind of like a longer
con than most of them and so Janet goes and lives with Raymond and Raymond's
sister Martha as far as she knows and one day Martha sees the two of them in
bed together Ray's asleep Janet's asleep they're in bed together they're naked Martha uses a hammer to bash
Janet's head in and in the middle of this Raymond thinking super quick decided that to help he decided to help
strangle Janet which like it's not a bad move if you're being caught cheating on your spouse like and she starts killing
the person you're cheating on them with like your best bet is to kill that person with them I think right yeah sure I mean what else you
going to do yeah know it's bad this is a bad situation but then then Al then I just got sad because I remember that
this whole thing is about Lonely Heart people and that's so sad that you're just like you just want someone to love you and then like someone kills you and
steals your money I know I know but listen listen Okay like again like we're going to have a fight about this so here's the thing you want to
fiance no oh my God Taylor you have I watch reality TV I
know but I but okay so I don't know maybe we're gonna agree and get get to the same answer eventually like we
always do but like um I think there's so many people in the world I just don't understand why you have to why this
happens but also I'm like I'll tell you exactly I've never been lonely lucky you so I'll tell you
exactly why it happens listen if you're like in your
60s and like somebody who is beautiful in their 20s wants to be with you it is
not about your personality so yes of the math in this case Raymond would have been about 28 to
31 years old give or take when this murder of Janet happened to 66 of course
he's not with you for your personality Janet you were around when [ __ ]
Napoleon was invading Ukraine I don't know I don't know science or history
like you get my point bar is not a scientist you
guys no 100% I totally agree with you that's why that's what makes it so sad because you're just like maybe this is
real maybe someone will love me and then they don't and they kill you and it's sad yeah just like don't make yourself a
victim just like don't be like oh God like but you believe it don't you Taylor
listen to me listen to me as my friend what I'm advocating for I don't know either listen as my friend friend if I
ever I'm like hey I want to come I want to come visit you guys in Josh Tre and I show up with like my 21-year-old
supermodel girlfriend okay yeah you have to take me
aside you have to separate us okay like you have to tie me down like fars look
at you like this this will never happen in your life it's not your charm it's it's money
it's the millions of dollars you have making this podcast that's why she loves you it's a 33 Cent Spotify is paying
us we're not we're not getting any M we have not seen 33 cents I'm G keep it I
know I'm the one who registered I'm parking in that knows keep going so anyways moving
on so at this point Janet's dead Raymond like mostly didn't do anything but like
kind of was like okay I gotta I got to keep Martha happy so I better string this elderly woman so they decided they
want to skip town after that first murder and they probably want kind of little bit of a pal cleanser move on
with their relationships so they ended up resettling in the suburbs of Grand Rapids Michigan where they meet a woman
named deline Downing so yes Kelly hi Kelly is my friend from
work and she got a new job and I haven't seen her in a few weeks and I miss her and I love her and she listens to this
this show and she's in Grand Rapids so hi Kelly hi Kelly thank you we're about to tell
you a bad story bu R probably tell tell tell your friends to listen to this
Kelly we'd really love it but yes we are going to tell you a
bad story about Grand Rapids so they made this woman her name is deline Downing and deline let them into
her home she was a widower is that a widower or a widow no it's Widow yeah
she's a widow a widow yeah yeah she's a widow and she old daughter could she have used could she have used an app she
it would have done her much good if she had used an app um but so at this point she's a widowed
she has two do she's a two-year-old daughter and for some reason she was possessed enough to let these two people
in I can only assume this was a V1 of like Airbnb which was just like pay me $5 and you can St in the sext room of my
house I don't know why else you let these people in yeah that's like most of human history right you could like go to
someone's house and just like at least like stay in the barn I guess um so
apparently this two-year-old daughter that Delphine had would cry constantly and it like enraged Martha that this kid
would cry so at one point she tried to strangle the 2-year-old to death and
then like at the very end she decided to let up on the kid and this ended up leaving a bunch of bruises all over the
kid like the kid was just like bruised up and banged up and they had nowhere to go they were basically homeless all he did was Rob elderly woman and so Raymond
being a shrewd customer once again proving how you can be sharp and make
decisions on the fly decid to shoot deline in the head rather than having to explain the
bruises smart move God did they kill the baby why the baby don't except for my
outline no one knows what happened to the baby they decided to stay a bit
longer at delphine's house along with the corpse and the much alive 2-year-old daughter who's crying unsurprisingly
did not get less when our mom was rotting in the
corner oh my God so terrible so after a few days of this girl crying uh Martha decides that it
was best to just drown the baby and then bury both their bodies in the basement so uh neighbors obviously get
suspicious they you know this is one of those times when like you're going like it was the 1940s like people cared about
each other then so neighbors groups well not everybody they they didn't care
about the ones that didn't look like them but they careed about their neighbors neighbors suspicious and see
we both reached the same conclusion see that I see what you're saying yeah they called the police the police showed up
and they immediately arrest them too neither one of them had any property rights to the house they had no keys at
the house it smelled like a dead body in there and so they're like obviously guys did something Raymond immediately
confessed Raymond doesn't sound smart Raymond sounds like he suffered a catastrophic brain injury that was
undiagnosed and untreated is what it sounds like to me yeah he was told he
was told that if he confesses to the crimes they wouldn't extra him to New
York because at that time New York had a death penalty Michigan didn't so he was like I did it I killed we we killed this
woman in the kid just keep me in Michigan they said okay you he not his
name that was a lie they immediately pinned him him with 17 random murders which like even today nobody actually
knows how many people they killed they know for a fact they killed these three though so on those three murders Janet
deline and the daughter they were exed to New York they were both sentenced to
death and on March 8th 1951 they're both put to death on the same day which is kind of romantic like Lonely Hearts kind
of like kind of a sweet thing to do I think right that happens yeah it's cute it's kind of cute
and and and like I actually think that they were like they were kind of pure in a way so Raymond's last words were quote
I want to shout it out I love Martha what do the public know about
love that's actually what it said what do the public know about love and you know man like he really
really loved her like like I I oh sorry and Martha so uh Martha and ended up
having her last meal which apparently was ham eggs and coffee then her final St was quote what does it matter who is wait
hold on I can't read this sorry quote what does it matter who is to blame my
story is a love story but only those tortured with love can understand what I mean I was pictured as a fat unfeeling
woman I'm not unfeeling stupid or moronic in the history of the world how many crimes have been attributed to
Love She ended it stupid but like she started strong I think I mean so I feel like yes he
probably was the first person to give her like ongoing attention you know but
they still I mean you're saying that they probably killed more people than this or you think they did or were they
just Char just like charged with their no I for sure think they did I for sure like they they killed a 2-year-old you
don't started killing two-year-olds you graduate to killing two-year-olds yeah no it's bad it's bad
it's all bad but it is interesting that by all accounts I almost so usually in
these situations I think like the man manipulates the woman into doing things in this case you got a guy with [ __ ]
severe brain damage and then Martha's the aggressor in like both situations she strangled
the daughter and then she bashed Janet's scullin or she bashed Janet scullin with
a hammer then string on the so like I don't know I I think maybe like I think New York might have killed a handicap
man yeah no I think that that could be true because he definitely had brain
damage he was definitely like a criminal because he was robbing people but maybe he wouldn't have killed them if she hadn't been there to do it but maybe
like what made her do that they do look like a cute couple though like I do Aspire One Day to like be in a
relationship like this where we look at each other and you're happy it's look happy back
and look at that they're so cute together oh my God they are so cute together they're so
happy listen I think I think she's cute I think I do like she looks cute with her little flowers on her little 40s
haircut and they like each other I mean they shouldn't have killed people he he looks handicapped though
Taylor like he kind of like I don't like I don't know you know what I mean like he just his eyes look like they're both
they're going into different ways his his head doesn't not look
dented he kind of has a Robert Duval vibe to him okay I mean it's very sad it's sad
oh oh I see a picture of the baby um tell me this guy that's sad I
feel like this guy right here he does not have it all there
right no I agree and that's too
bad yeah like I feel like it definitely has to do with his head injury and maybe has to do with her feeling like no one
would love her because the first two boyfriends like or whatever guys who got her pregnant and just like desperately didn't want to be with
her but you can just like meet someone who likes you and then not steal I just
saw the baby picture cute little baby I know she's so cute I mean don't
kill people is the answer is the obvious answer to this like the one guy did a
great job by just like leaving if didn't want to be with her he just left fine like he threw himself in San Francisco
B well you know he got out he didn't he got he didn't die I mean I don't know do
you know more about her personality I feel like with crimes like this why you think
that she was the one do this with crimes like this that go back so so far in time
like there there wasn't a constant of True Crime nobody was pointing over this [ __ ] constantly so like yeah details of
SP finding details about Raymond's life was like almost impossible like there was basically nothing out there because
who the [ __ ] is roing this [ __ ] Yeah well yeah I mean I feel
like um I'm GNA see if they're in this book in this they're not I want to see if they
were in this um popular crime book but yeah no
it's they were the original I feel like I don't know more why yeah and that's
sad it's sad when someone's like I don't know like there's so many stories of that especially with the internet you
could like pretend to be anyone you know and like convince someone to give you money tell someone that you love them
blah blah blah and then take all their money which is so sad I know because you just you just want someone to love you
and there's people out there who want to be loved and I say that again as someone who's never been
lonely lucky you Taylor good for you I know I'm saying I don't know but I am in
a happy healthy relationship I might I know I'm very happy for you ju Carlos
was looking at your pictures and he was like o who's this and we're excited to meet her oh my uh my insta post my
stories yeah making it insta official yeah it's so yeah like we're very mature
about it it's all inst official no we went to went to aana
house on Tuesday on Halloween fun oh my God yeah it was just Halloween God I feel like it is I don't
even know what [ __ ] is going on I feel like my my brain is like please go to sleep for the rest of your life which is
not what I plan to do but like oh my God I'm so tired but yeah so yeah we did we to or-treating and it was very
fun dude Taylor extend the trip extend the trip like like stay longer and go do
this road trip with us not a road trip it's not a road trip I know because I have to go to
school are when are you getting there so I get there we get there like Friday at
noon okay yeah we don't we get there early we get there Wednesday and then we're spending two days with Juan's parents and then we're going to the
wedding far and I are going to be together again in we've seen each other so much this year it's actually bananas
that we live so far apart and have seen each other so much it's almost too
much we're gonna H out again we can actually we got to figure out a recording schedule for that weekend
because I'm sure it's gonna be chaotic we can we'll find a place we fig yeah um
yeah no super excited our friend Jay and Beth are getting married um Jay also
just I just got out of the whole month of watching scar movies with Jay and it was so fun Jade is a
wonderful scary movie calendar and fars pretends to be grateful for it every year but never joins I'm always grateful
for it I just don't join because there's other [ __ ] they're doing it on East
Coast time I'm on Central time she's on Taylor's on Pacific like it is hard to
Calenders well we worked it out and there's a couple nights a week where Jay would stay up late and M with us and we
ended with the others which I'm sure you love is that the one when ni
came yeah oh yeah of course oh my God so good so he always ends with a classic we
did that one and then we did Exorcist 3 oh there's also this has nothing to do with anything there's also a new
Insidious with Patrick Wilson and I was like looking at it and I was like o Insidious and my husband was like cool you want to watch it I was like yeah and
then I'm like oh my God he like one listens to all of our podcast so he listened to me defending my love Patrick
Wilson for like five minutes is that the devil on Tri
one no no no that one is um that one is that's actually documentary
that one about the story of the that was the devil made me do it was The Conjuring this is insidious insidious is
like Patrick Wilson where he's like followed around by like that devil monster where it's like the devil behind him in the thing and like rosb he's
married roseb um anyway I definitely want to watch that later we've we just we almost finished the Fall of the House
of Usher which has been so good okay Taylor so I watched the first episode of
that and I had one of those nightmares where I was like I [ __ ] the nightmare
was this I still remember to this day so I watched the episode you know that scene in the beginning where it's like the first half of the movie where like
the mom's obviously dead and the guy's like she's behind you you can turn around it's like I'm not going to do this if I turn around negotiation like
the thing oh my God great I've I've jumped several times watching the show I like
that I like you know that that that whole group that their Vibe they do all those scary shows like the hill house
and all that and I like it it was fun I jumped like a couple times one more Taylor I woke up because
I um I the dream was and it felt to so real I was in I went to the shower like
I felt like I woke up and I was going to go take a shower and I was in the shower and I heard a scratching behind the the
um the wall and I put my ear up against it saying I'm still here it like whispered I'm still here and I just
[ __ ] lunged in my bed and I woke up and like I was like oh my god did I dream that did that really happen it was so scary that was really SC
yeah that's why I I only I only did oneis too house is old I only did one episode and I can't do anymore because I
was like I I can't watch this alone like I'll get too scared oh my God that's so funny oh my
God I love it that's yeah it's really scary yeah so I'm going to continue to do a little bit
of that but then it's Thanksgiving before we know it and then be in North Carolina and then it'll be Christmas and
then it'll be next year and then we'll do it all again [ __ ] yeah hopefully [ __ ] yeah um keep doing it sweet cool Taylor
well thank you that was terrible and sad I'm sad for people who are lonely which Taylor wouldn't know she an email tayl
wouldn't even know what was like I've been single for like four
months since I started dating people when I was 15 so you know tough it is
what it is life but yes if you are lonely write to us tell us tell us what
it's like to be a social paride El what it's like to not know love and to know that it never will come for you
well you should you should get a therapist you should talk to that me or
just oh yeah yeah no you yes but I me I mean everyone we should all get therapists and try to figure it out but
lonely heart stuff is so sad because you want so much for someone to love you and then you get someone who's like maybe a criminal or maybe would you do it if you
were separate who knows and there's all those like just horrible things of of people not even killing anyone but like just taking someone's money you know
because they're emotionally invested and that grifting is just so sad be be F
this doesn't sound like that but it was that if you're in this category just
learn learn a fun hobby and throw yourself into something interesting and fun and before you know it you'll wake
up and be doing a podcast with your friend true I like it a good to end
this we got there I'm GNA go and cut it off thank you Taylor social media at
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