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Ep 66 - Volcanoes Part 6 - George Vancouver, this is it!: The Eruption of Mt. St. Helens

Episode Summary

In our penultimate volcano episode, we explore the 1980 eruption of Mt. Saint Helens in Washington State. It's lucky that it was a weekend and lucky that the land was mainly used for foresting, otherwise, the devastation could have been in the tens of thousands of lost lives like we've seen. It's a story of forestation, preservation, and vulcanologists doing one of the most dangerous jobs out there. We're proud of you guys! Thank you for your service and please email us. We'd love to ask you a million questions! Check out this AMAZING google map- "Mount St Helens Eruption Fatalities - interactive map" Pics via AI and the CC. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/doomedtofailpod/   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/doomedtofailpod   Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@doomedtofailpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@doomed.to.fail.pod  Email: doomedtofailpod@gmail.com

Episode Notes

In our penultimate volcano episode, we explore the 1980 eruption of Mt. Saint Helens in Washington State. It's lucky that it was a weekend and lucky that the land was mainly used for foresting, otherwise, the devastation could have been in the tens of thousands of lost lives like we've seen. 

It's a story of forestation, preservation, and vulcanologists doing one of the most dangerous jobs out there. We're proud of you guys! Thank you for your service and please email us we'd love to ask you a million questions!

Pics via AI and the CC. (that old guy is Harry Truman)

Sources 

George Weyerhaeuser kidnapping - Wikipedia

Mount St Helens Eruption Fatalities

Eruption: The Untold Story of Mount St. Helens

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Episode Transcription

Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor

 

[Music] in a matter of the people of State of California versus orthal James Simpson case number ba09 and so my fellow

Americans ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do your

country on Wednesday with toil with fars and pod wait no Taylor and fars we're

doing a podcast me and Taylor doing a podcast oh my God it's called Doom to fail Perfect 10 out of 10 10 out of

10 um but yes we are back and it is Taylor's turn to take us on a riveting

tale of love and joy and Terror and probably

feminism I'm sure that's in there somewhere but um yeah all right let's do it um I'm excited that you did your

second one on engineering disasters because I'm doing oh my God my number number six for volcanoes let's just get

get this done I'm going to finish before the end of the year so no there's seven so this is number six um this is

Mountain St Helens that repres in 1980 I love that one that one's my favorite so great um so Mount St Helens

is a strat volcano it erupted in 1980 it killed 56 people it was a volcanic

explosivity index of five which is cataclysmic penan um so I know we talked

about our like you know the we're looking at the um the vei index this is actually more powerful than the one that

was in Mount P the last one that we talked about um but less people died because less people lived around

there in Mount P people lived at like the bottom of the you know it was like

like a Caribbean Island lived on the bottom of the of the Hill as you would but this one's in like Washington State

so it's in the north northwest of the United States and uh the land all around

it was being used for logging they were in the middle of cutting down all the forests um for logging so this is Al

also a logging story so we will talk a little bit about that history as well uh

my main source I read a book called eruption that I'll put in the notes and I also found this freaking incredible

Google map that someone made and it shows where each person who died and survived was found and then the pictures

that they have of them like some of them had their cameras like pointed towards it when it was happening it's really interesting so I'll share it it's fun to

C around how would you search for that well don't look at it yet because it's like fascina you're GNA look at it

for an hour not listen to me so just wait um so there this is stupid I wrote there's

a couple layers pun intendent because that's what a strata volcano is it's layers of Earth um to this story so

there's logging there's preservation there's um you know the American freedom to go wherever the [ __ ] you want to go

um and then there's volcanoes so like all those things are happening kind of at the same time um so starting with the land itself most of the land around

Mountain St Holland in 1980s was owned by the the warh Houser Timberland

company um Voyer Houser W ye r h AE u s

e r it's a German company um founded by a German immigrant named Friedrich vuser

in um in the 1800s in the book that I listened to eruption the guy did a great

German accent when he was talking as him it was delightful um but he um you know he was a hard

worker he moved Pennsylvania from Germany in 1852 he worked at a brewary but felt

like the pressure of being around boo he didn't want to do that so he found a job at a timber company and he just worked his way up the ranks and he started to

like know a lot about logging um and he saw that things were changing and like I

saw this like thing on Instagram that was a joke but it's like 100% true that when you like take someone to your hometown every time you turn a corner

you're like this used to be the woods and now it's Walmart and this used to be the woods and now it's this you know what I mean yeah I mean that's kind of

everything like it's everywhere this used to be the woods like when I was little this was the woods and now it's

not now it's right when I was little room this room was the woods and now it's not now it's my office no it's not

so that's just like you know what happens all the time in our lifetimes we see we've seen a lot of forest like disappear but the United States had an

incredible amount of trees like more than were used to so like in Europe and

places where you know these people came from a lot of the buildings are Stone you know and you have like a wooden roof

like you don't have a wooden house if you're like living in um living in Germany at this time you have a stone

house because stone is more like PL of falling around and you don't have that much wood but in America there's so much

[ __ ] wood and they were like oh it's all free so they just you know and they just cut it all down and they could do

things like build houses build rail build railroad tracks build um boats

they could have um wooden roads wooden bridges just like things that you could never have before and then also there's

an opportunity to like do it all again when it all burns the [ __ ] down you know makes sense it's all it all comes back

too because you just regrow the trees and there is a part of like this

is like regrowing people would have like places to regrow but it takes you know [ __ ] forever to have a tree grow to be huge

um the um Voyer Houser is still the nation's largest timber company today so

it's still like a huge um thing is it spell Warrior Voyer W ye r h a e u s e r ah

there it is yeah okay I've seen I've seen this logo yeah totally and you would have

because they're everywhere still so it's like a family business

f um a fun interesting story that just kind of like happens during this um it has to do with that family is in 1935

the family lived in Tacoma so they started to go west where there was like you know a [ __ ] ton of trees as we know

the the Northwest has a lot of forests and they were obviously very rich and they still are very rich they're like

you know the people who own this this Big Timber Company uh May 24th 1935 George vuser who's the grandson of

Fredick he was 9 years old and he got out of school early and instead of waiting for the show like you do when

you're a rich kid he decided to walk home and he was kidnapped so he was 9 years old and it was Peak kidnapping

time the Lindberg baby had been kidnapped in 1932 so it was like just like the time that was happening um they

took him to the woods and like tied him to a tree overnight he was in the trunk of a car a lot the family noticed right

away that he wasn't home um they called the police a few days later they got a letter for asking for $200,000 in Ransom

which is several million dollars now right and the family um um the family paid it they got it in

cash and they had um they were unmarked bills but all the serial numbers were written down and that's how they ended

up finding the people eventually but um they did like an awkward handoff in the

woods where um the dad like had like a suesa cash and like dropped it and a

dude like ran out of the woods and grabbed the cash and ran away and they like got the money um and like went away with it and another thing that that

um George the kid did that was really really smart and this is for you in case you ever get kidnapped is remember like

how many steps it takes to get from a spot to a spot when you're blindfolded you know if you're like they took me out

of the trunk they picked me up and they walked 10 steps to a porch and I could feel them walking on the porch like

stuff like that that makes it really helpful to find out where you were so he did that which was great great job I

and I do that with planes so whenever I get on a plane I always count how many

seats between me and in the exit in case the plane's on fire and I can't see I can just touch what's in front of me to

count my way up yep keep in mind the closest exit maybe behind you oh yeah look at that there

you go see I've been on a plane you know you know world that's I'm gonna probably do that forever now so cool right good to

know um thank you um so on May 31st they let him go so they like you know they

let him go like six days later um he went to a small house they let him go like near a small farmhouse the farmer

knew who he was because because he had you know heard it on the radio or whatever and the Farmer they cleaned him

up and they gave him some food and then they started drive him back to Tacoma on the way there they were intercepted by a

reporter who said I'm here with the family I'll take him I'll take him the rest of the way so essentially he was kidnapped Again by a reporter so he

could get all of the information from him before he saw the police or ass family dude I was going to say if you were that farmer just keep ransoming

this kid like he's the gift that keeps on giving just like like hey I found your kid but I already fed him and gave him clothes I need like at least 50

bucks per real they should have G I'm sure they gave him something it sounds like they would have um

they the there were four people that were involved in the kidnapping there

was like the wife of one of them and then like a fourth person but the two main uh guys were Harbin Wally and

William dinard and they um were arrested they were found because they were spending the bills that had the serial

numbers that they knew were part of the ransom money when they found them they were trying burn the money in the stove

which is hilarious because they were like it wasn't us B they're like you're trying to burn money like no one does that obviously do

um eventually Harmon Wally and William dard were both arrested Wally went to

Alcatraz and Daner went to leworth so they both went to like big prisons um

Wally kept writing letters to George who was the kid over the years apologizing and saying you know like it was just a

couple days like I'm I'm sorry you know we were whatever he apologizing can't take he get out of well when he did get

out of jail like 35 years later George gave him a job which was very nice he

said you know he paid his time and I'm gonna help him get back on his feet and he gave him a job at the Timber Company

um George was like yeah George was like well [ __ ] happens and boys are tough so it sounds like he never went to therapy and he maybe should have because of

that's a really harrowing thing to happen to a child but that's just an a side story but anyway George the kid who

got kidnapped was president of the company in 1980 when Mountain St hel erupted so he doesn't do anything bad

just like have that life um so Mount St

Helens is in the ring of fire somehow because everything's in the ring of fire really made you the whole world because

there's so much that doesn't make any sense at all it's like at the because the ring of fire kind of goes around and then it

goes like through under Mexico and like because it hits the Caribbean but then it goes like back around South America I don't know I feel like it's it's a loose

term it's not like a perfect circle wow you're right yeah it's like right on the cusp

it's like wow interesting yeah so it is and and that

makes sense because there's like is Alaska in the ring of fire I feel like that makes sense too yeah it is um yeah

so the Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest called it

latala yeah I know I did that wrong or one who come who one from whom smoke

comes so they knew it was a volcano you know from the the native people who lived

there um it was uh part of the poetz

Indian tribe and confederated tribe and bands of the yaka Nation when you know in the beginning the modern name

Mountain Helens comes from an Explorer named captain George Van wait Vancouver

George Vancouver was an Explorer he named on St Helen after his friend Fitz Herbert Who was the Baron of St Helens

back in the UK so that's why it's called that he Nam it after his friend and that was he named him that that in 197 or

1792 um also I just incidentally um I know we say that Vulcan is the Greek God

of um of fire but the Roman oh no hold on yeah Vulcan is the

Roman god of fire so it's like volcanoes we get the word from you got that the

hesus h is a Greek god of fire um he's like the counterpart to Vulcan and he is

the greatek god of fire and blacksmiths which is fun so anyway that was the one before them um harder to say this hesus

erupted than this volcano erupted so that's part of it um so everyone knew it

was a volcano they'd known for centuries the native people knew was a volcano everybody knew it was a volcano mountain and Helens had erupted in the 1840s and

50s but had been dormant since then so it had been a long time since it had been

um active there were like cabins around it and like little places where people could like like little

um like gosh I imagine it a lot like the place where you got married I was going to say like so much of the story reminds

you of that because even as you were talking about the wood I was like cuz that town that we drove through that was like a former logging town that was

probably one of these wymer heisen exactly companies yeah yeah I'm sure

yeah so yeah it's just like there's lakes and there's trees and it's beautiful so you can have a c in there

um in parts that are protected a most of it is owned by you know a a Logging company and there's like lakes and and

all that stuff it's a beautiful it's like a beautiful space um on March 15th 1980 there started to be earthquakes so

[ __ ] starts shaking and you live next to a volcano get the [ __ ] out of there you know right um people are like we should

leave um so some people were leaving some people were like not able to go back to their homes and then some of

them were like their summer homes and they weren't able to go to them um the governor at the time was a woman named Dixie Lee Ray and she was a bit of an

eccentric like her name wasn't Dixie Lee she changed it to that to sound more Southern um she was a democrat in a time

when it was like really bad um Jimmy Carter was about to be um about to lose

his second election and you know they were dealing with the IR hostage crisis the energy crisis like it's all crisis

Crisis crisis and Dixie Lee's kind of like having a great time but not really like taking her job very seriously it

sounds like Taylor from this book going back to the wedding so that town

that I just referenced was called Grace Harbor uhuh uhuh guess who named it

Grace Harbor the ver vamr or George

Vancouver George Vancouver he just named everything named everything had a flag

Nam the sh of everything I didn't know there was a George Vancouver but sure there we go sounds to me um so

so the governor could have done more to ban people from going to certain places

but she didn't want to do that she wanted to let people like live their lives and go and like have the freedom to go to their houses if they needed to

um there was an executive order on her desk the the weekend that it happened that she hadn't signed that would have

expanded where you couldn't go around the around the volcanic Peak um but she never signed it and who knows that that

would have helped saved like some lives a remarkably small amount of people died All Things Considered um but you know

they could have had even bigger space people weren't allowed to be in um there were teams that were trying to protect

the land around Mount St heland they were trying to get it on the historical register trying to get it to be a

National Monument like Joshua tree is a national monument and a national park so like that gives us like a little bit

more protection in different ways they're trying to make it a monument while at the same time people are like but we need these trees so all this

stuff is happening um and then eventually like the land they tried to protect was gone so they have to like

pivot and try to figure out what what to do next after the the eruption but they're people trying to save it um so

most of the people that lived there did leave um eventually the day before the

eruption actually erupted on a on a Sunday on the Saturday they let some people go back to their houses and get

stuff so they let 50 cars of people go in like a caravan with the with like the

Marines or whatever go to their houses get some of their stuff get their pets some of them like left food for their

cats they couldn't find they're just like hopefully we'll be back in a few days but they never went back um there

were also people that that worked there and they didn't really stop working they kind of kept working in that area in

places where they were like well this this area is probably safe because it was like you know 15 miles from why risk

turned up those places weren't safe yeah who gives a [ __ ] just don't go like it's like what are you what are you splitting

hairs for well it's like well for the people who work there it's like you know millions and millions and millions of

dollars for the company and what are they going to do they need jobs it's just like everything else but

they weren't there because it was a Sunday so they're actually fine right if it would have erupted on a weekday at

least 300 more people would have died because they would have been working there but they weren't so like that's that's the good news this happened on a

Sunday um and that that Sunday happened to be in May so on the way so from March

to May it's rumbling weird shit's happening um the volcano's getting bigger like a balloon about to pop you

know you're like holy [ __ ] like we got to get the [ __ ] out of here like it's like getting bigger um some people were

allowed in because they were like scientists one of those scientists was

John voit's brother isn't that weird that John vo's brother is a

volcanologist is weird because John mind yeah he's also mind yeah this guy's

not crazy he's just a volcanologist um so he just happen one of the people who did that um

there's some other people who were um who didn't leave there was a man named

Harry Truman um which is cute um and he was like an old man who owned like a little Lodge um near the base and he was

like I'm not going to leave like it's my right to stay here this is my property and then he started to like be on the news across the country and people were

like yeah good for you sticking up for what's yours blah blah blah and they did say that someone saw him like at a bar a

CLE a day or so before being like I really want to leave but I can't now this person you know like now everybody

thinks that I'm being so [ __ ] Brave I can't leave and he 100% died and died pretty quickly hopefully um but he

definitely you know I think he was second guessing it um but so it was a

Sunday when um when Monon Helens erupted it was May 18th 1980 at 8:32 a.m. it is

the largest landslide in recorded history so the first thing that happened was a landslide of like that hot mud

that comes out it traveled at one up to 155 miles per hour um and moved across

the lake and across part of the mountain one thing that it did is it exploded

sideways which is not what anyone could have predicted so like on you were safer

on one side than you were on the other but there was no way to know which side you know yeah um there were glaciers at

the top of the mountain that started to melt which caused like that hot wet mud

to Landslide everywhere the Rivers were surging with this warm water and what

that was also doing which is even more dangerous is the logs that were there so like imagine like a log from a tree

that's like 2 feet in diameter like you couldn't move that whatever but if it's in a river that's like surging on a

mountain that's going to be like a toothpick and a bathtub you know what I mean like this huge log but that log is going to crush everything on the way

down yeah you know so it's not just water it's water and these like really really really really heavy logs and they

went back to get them for like years and years and years they couldn't really gather everything back together

because everything was in these piles if you're stuck under a log you're dead you know this is

crazy it doesn't even look like a mountain anymore it looks like the highest mountain in Washington

state yeah that was the 11th tallest mountain it was the fifth tallest inton State lost like thing um the landslide

was taken over by the pyroclastic flow um which always happens and it last Ed

about um like obviously it was super fast but it went about 23 mil across and

19 miles long the flow the flow overtook the landslide so you're like running from a landslide and it's overtaken by

the pyroclastic flow um the ash cloud went 12 miles into the sky it went as far as like Wyoming

like the middle of the United States and so a lot of things were like covered in Ash um even after that it lost 400 feet

in elevation yeah there so much

mountain and it's interesting because like Mount Pelle that we're talking about like it got taller after it was over it like crystallized harder and

like has like a taller Peak now it's not even a peak it's just like a rock top of top of it it like was plugged like a wi

sapper um many of the bodies were never found obviously because they were just

covered in the in the flow um so you might ask yourself who was there and why

and how many people died um some people were in camping zones that were deemed safe like they were told they could go

there no one told them they couldn't go there um and some of them were there to study um which definitely is why being a

vulcanologist is a very dangerous job you know yeah um I saw that picture of that one guy who looks like the coolest

dude that ever died on a volcano yeah let's talk about him because I'm going to go through this

list and pick out some stories to tell you of the people who died there um but before I do that just like after it's

over you know they do some more conservation they really work to make it part of like a national park so you cannot overly Forest the area um another

thing is Jimmy Carter did go a few days afterwards because presidents you know always go to where there has been a

disaster it was the biggest volcano um eruption you know on us soil and um he

was in a helicopter with Dixie Lee the the governor who was like asking him for money you know like she do like you do

and um Jimmy Carter looked out the window and said I have never seen this

much done station in my life and the helicopter pilot said sir we're not

there yet that's the clearcut that was just where the timber um companies have cut on all the trees poor Jimmy poor

innocent Jimmy um so um and then it's still kind

of rumbled and has kind of done things up until 2009 um so it's definitely not like dormant forever there's still other

stuff going on like inside of it I would not live next to it if I not given the chance um but 56 people died potentially

more um depending on um you know some people may have been there that we don't know about um some people were you know

uh maybe like a loner by themselves out there and no one ever you know said that they that they were there so we do have

these uh these handful of um confirmed deaths and like I said were very it's very fortunate that it was a Sunday

because if it had been a Monday at least 300 more people would have been there working um in the area and they would

have been um they would have been they all have been killed the person that you're talk talking about whose picture

you've seen um is David Johnston David Johnston was a vulcanologist who was there as um a favor to a friend who had

to take the night off which is sad for the for the friend who like didn't know um but there's a picture of him and it's

always listed in like creepy pictures that you've like never you know he's sitting on like a

folding chair he looks super nice he's wearing jeans um he's next to a camper and he was there um to study landslides

particularly a lot of these vulcanologist had been in Hawaii where we've learned um like a Hawaiian volcano

eruption is like a slow lava eruption so it's not as like like you have time to get

away um yeah like these yeah exactly These Are W more violent but he so he's there um his final transmission was

Vancouver Vancouver this is it it's a transmitter on um and they think that maybe he was telling them that like a

landslide was coming and he didn't even know that the whole volcano had erupted because it felt like an earthquake and he may have not even seen it but he's

never um uh but he is he was gone immediately his his have never been

found they think he didn't even know that a volcano happened or he was

hit who knows he was like this is it this is it because he was he was there

to see what happened when the landslide came so like maybe that was it or whatever either way he knew he knew it

was happening enough to pick up his radio radio to the base in Vancouver Washington and be like this is happening

and then he died and that was it never heard from um yeah super sad um there

was obviously we learned that poor Harry Truman died um hopefully that was super

fast for him um there was a photo photojournalist named Reed Blackburn they found him in his car um his

pictures were too um damaged to be developed but some of the people there

their cameras did come back um we were able to get like really like closeup pictures toally to the flow that we like

haven't seen before um Joel col Colton was another photographer um there were

some people who were camping together there was a couple called named Terry and Karen and they look so super cute in

their pictures and you can look at on the map when I give you the map unless you're looking at it now but Terry and Karen were with their friends and they

died immediately because a tree fell on their tent because of the earthquake so they died immediately and their friends

went um their friends that got away but they were like very severely burned and

they went back and tried to find them and the government wouldn't let them in so they took a news crew and the news

crew was like if you don't let us in to go try to find these people then we will never um you know we're going to put it all over the all over the news so they

let them in and they found their bodies in their tent crashed by the tree but you'll like this their puppies were okay

two puppies and they were fine we we so the puppies got out um there was two men

named um Clyde Croft and Al handy were horseback riding um and they survived

initially and hiked um eight out eight miles before succumbing to Ash which is

terrible that like you made it that far and you're burned and everything's terrible um there was a a worker named

Jose Diaz him and his crew it was like a a a weekend crew there were like five

guys who are working logging um in one part to get it ready for the week and it was Sunday and Jose was a Roman Catholic

so he didn't want to work on Sundays so I mean whatever he didn't work on Sundays so he was in the car when it happened and everybody a couple other

people died instantly and then he ended up getting rescued um when he was caught

like on like a a lot of these guys were found like on logs like floating through this like surge um but he died a few

days later in the hospital which is very sad um there's a couple like older couples who were just like out in there

um in their like RVS hanging out um and they were

like like William and Ellen Dill they think that they stopped and looked at to take pictures and they were never found

and their RV was never found so a lot of these people like just absolutely were like died almost immediately or like a

couple minutes after from like Burns obviously like we've heard um that happens a lot

um so another one that is um a couple

other um geologists died um and there's Bob uh queset and Beverly weather held

they were um at an observatory near Spirit Lake um and their location has been buried forever the cabin that they

were in is is gone and they'll be there they'll be there forever um there was a sweet couple named Christy and John

Killian who were um camping by themselves and um John had gone out

fishing so Spirit Lake is like this Lake that's like at the base of the volcano and John was like we can go there now

like it's like not you're not allowed to not go there and he was like let's go cuz it's full of fish cuz it was fish there in 3 months since they shut it

down in March you know so they were excited the way that they found them they found Christy like by their

campfire with like make like like near like a coffee pot so she had probably gotten up to like make coffee and they found um John

like the the guess is that he was fishing and his last moments would have

been his boat like kind of floating through the air on like the landslide before he died jeez which is crazy

that's like where they found him they found like pie of his pieces of his boat um the sweet older cou couple is Edward

and elanar Murphy they were um driving their motor home and some people um she

was elanar was at their campsite and Ed went to somewhere else to like get some supplies and people reported seeing the

motor home going back up the mountain so he was like going back to go get her and they never found either of them um which

is so sad um there are a couple children were part of a family that was killed CU

people thought it was safe like they thought they really did think it was safe they thought it would be fine to be out there um and a lot of people were

you know found like in their cars um one guy I can't find exactly which person

this is one person was on his radio and he was like gentleman is coming for me and then

he died because then he was gone and he just like suceed in his car at the CL par clasic flow over overdid it overtook

his car and he was gone um a couple a lot of people survived so there were

some like loggers who got out there were um people who had been camping like with their friends who who died who got out

but they were so badly burned like some of them you know walked out with like bare feet because if something happens at 8:30 in the morning you're sleeping

you just have to like run so their feet were burned their hands were burned um a lot of people had like been like on on

like the rivers that were created like floating on these logs which was obviously super dangerous if the log flips over like you're dead um people

were just like to like stay on them and like stay alive and also like there's Ash in the air you can't

breathe so some people like were found underneath sleeping bags um probably similar to what you were saying before

with like wet cloths like trying just trying to breathe and they found them in those places there's a family called the

more family um it was a little girl um her parents and a baby and they ended up

getting away walking like eight miles until the helicopter found them and the helicopter was getting really full and

the helicopter pilot was like you can't take your backpack and the mom was like there's a baby in his backpack it was like a baby backpack and he was like

okay take the baby and J the backpack which is hilarious and the husband had $800 binoculars they went back and found

also top top not work for that family um some people were fishing and they were

able to um to like just you know kind of walk out or or run out if their car kind

of went faster they were able to get out um a lot of people you know you pass people on the way down and those people

didn't make it you know and you just like keep going um it's pretty crazy

there's some really beautiful pictures that people took because people were they didn't know it was going to

happen that day but they knew it was going to happen so they took pictures of like the flow and it things that you

know people saw their last day in Pompei that we've never seen before so that was

super interesting um and that's it I'm going to share this map with you I'll share it with everyone it's really cool you can see the pictures people took um

and the pictures that people found of the people who you know the places that they were and you can kind of like watch

it explode which is really [ __ ] scary um I don't think I want to be a

volcanologist no now that I think about it it is very dangerous because there's

these pictures on have to be you have to be up next to it yeah well there's these

pictures of David Johnson and like the final pictures of him and they're all taken from inside the crater Mount St

Helen where a lake had formed he's doing sampling of the lake which I assume is because like some of the water picks up

what's underneath it um it looks horrible like he is spelunking inside

the mouth of a [ __ ] like it isn't like okay when I

say Lake um it's not a lake like sure it's water captured in a natural

Reservoir but around it it looks like the Moon it looks like an alien Lany where nothing could possibly live and

you shouldn't be there and like so that's your job as a

volcanologist and you have to be there for the most

part which is very very scary it is it really does look like an alien landscape

the post pictures so there's on on Johnston's um Wikipedia page there's a

before and after one day before the eruption which um was taken at the

Observatory that he was in and then one a few months after the eruption and the

second one looks like somebody just torched the entire

area yeah he's only

30 I mean he went out the way he wanted to I guess exactly I guess you have to

take the risk but yeah man these pictures of the before and after I mean the mountain is gone and all of that you

know just decimated the the sides of the mountain and you know

obviously luckily didn't kill that many people but the people that died died in that [ __ ] terrible way that you die

when you died in a volcano eruption it's really crazy um and if you survive you survive as very bad Burns I feel bad for

har Truman because he didn't want to be there but he was like kind of peer pressured himself into being there I he

did it to himself he did but then like he should be able you should be able to change your mind when it comes to saving your

own life you have to die in that hell literally it's saying that he became basically a

town celebrity in the months before the volcano

exploded I know but I feel bad for him and also on this whole crypto doome

thing the fact that it's a lateral blast like it was like it looks like a pulsating massive thing like you know

you knew something was happening it wasn't going to be good right they knew it was like just it was a matter of time

and you just don't know I don't know I guess maybe I'll figure this out for next time or I'll look at to it like how much can we know about a volcano right

now you know like how much can we know if we know when's going to erupt obviously like none of this happens

without signs you know there's like earthquakes for a couple days before you know the mountain is like getting bigger

and pulsating you're like okay maybe we should maybe something's going to happen you know and whether it's like you know

a thousand years ago where you think it's because like the god Vulcan is mad or it's today you should leave if you

yeah it's this guy this guy Truman apparently had like a um redundancy

where he could go into like this abandoned Min shaft that he'd stalk with food and water but then I was reading about like how fast this thing moves it

said that when it exploded it exploded at 650 miles per hour unless you were

like tens of miles away there's zero chance you would have had the time to actually register what's happening and

Escape absolutely absolutely I do like that his name was Harry triond just like incidentally I know he was like uh the

the president happens to be named after me at one point you know he was in looks like he was in World War I yeah um he

this P picture of him is great he's like drinking a drinking a coke with ice in it and looking up at the mountain being like [ __ ] me I'm [ __ ]

three Ex-Wives yeah he lived a he lived a full life yeah yeah and and we know about him

so there you go all right he's in Wikipedia I'm on um cool well yeah thank you that okay that was number

six we got one more get into Wikipedia um we have one more and I will

be doing what will happen when y Yellowstone Yellowstone exp um I've been

preparing by watching disaster movies um and it's pretty

scary this guy was cool I like to hear I like Harry Truman me too I like his Vibe I'm killed

by A pyr clastic flow crazy it's just like so scary just like this this here's

this murder Cloud coming at you faster than anything you ever seen before this is funny Taylor this real quick so he

loved discussing politics and reportedly hated Republicans hippies young children

and the elderly so he hated everybody I love it he once refused to allow Supreme

Court Justice will Willam o Douglas to say his lodge dismissing him as an old coot he changed his mind when he learned

Douglas's identity chased him for one mile to a neighboring Lodge and convinced them to

stay about that I like that I like that you hate old people but you live to be 83 and potentially longer

because you died in volcano so you didn't die also weird it's like you say Republicans hippies young and old people

it's like who's left like who's literally who's left like Democrats and Goths I don't know it's so funny those

are the hippies though I know of the day um of the day

fun Taylor that was a fun one I uh I yeah it's crazy I mean growing up you know like in elementary school we were

all taught about M Mount St Helen and then given my associations with Washington State I've seen it a bunch of

times but it's always fun to re explore and reexamine it yeah I mean I guess people still you

know like live near it and it's also I guess also something else that I want want try to figure out is how do you you

don't know what's going to happen you don't know where which direction it's going to go in you can know as much as you can but like how do

you know what's happening underneath it you know just leave will we eventually know more I don't know man yeah just go

it's a dangerous job someone's got to do it I guess but somebody's got to do it but it's not gonna be us thank

God speaking of Washington state and and volcanoes um my friend Christine sent me some pictures she was hiking in

Washington state she lives in Oregon or in Oregon whatever that area she and she was hiking and sent me a picture of um

like a a thing that showed how like the land had you know over time like the

Strat of volcano like the you know piece by piece the layers were in it and kind of going back in history which was very

sweet she said I'm thinking of doomed to fail on my hike because she's learning about how mountains are formed and I was like I've learned so much this year and

she was like me too so I love that thank you chrisy thank you um sweet uh well

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