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Ep 70 - The People of Tenerife - The Lost Civilization of The Guanches

Episode Summary

A couple of centuries before the Tenerife Airport Disaster that we covered recently, The Guanche people lived on the Canary Islands, until, of course, conquests etc. From 1402 - 1496, the Spanish ravaged the islands, finalizing their conquest with the takeover of Tenerife, the largest of the islands. There's a lot we don't know - but we do have some caves, mummies, and snippets from Pliny the Elder (naturally) to give us a glimpse into this unknown ancient society. Here's a joke that ChatGPT wrote for us about The Guanches: "When the Guanche chef opened a restaurant, it was truly unique — every dish had that special 'Guanche' flair, leaving diners saying, 'Canary believe how delicious this is!'

Episode Notes

A couple of centuries before the Tenerife Airport Disaster that we covered recently, The Guanche people lived on the Canary Islands, until, of course, conquests etc. From 1402 - 1496, the Spanish ravaged the islands, finalizing their conquest with the takeover of Tenerife, the largest of the islands. There's a lot we don't know - but we do have some caves, mummies, and snippets from Pliny the Elder (naturally) to give us a glimpse into this unknown ancient society.

Here's a joke that ChatGPT wrote for us about The Guanches:

"When the Guanche chef opened a restaurant, it was truly unique — every dish had that special 'Guanche' flair, leaving diners saying, 'Canary believe how delicious this is!'

 

Sources:

The Guanches: Original people of Tenerife

The Guanches People and Native Plants of Tenerife (Canary Islands History, Medicinal plants)

The truth behind the mysterious mummies of the Canary Islands – BBC REEL

This is the first of many and great timing – Canary Islands

LEGENDARY: QUEEN ICO AND THE TEST OF NOBILITY - Blog THB hotels.

Cenobio de Valerón | Hello Canary Islands

Tinerfe - Wikipedia

Episode Transcription

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[Music] in a matter of the people of State of California versus orthal James Simpson case number ba09 and so my fellow

americ and not and we are back you're drinking beer or IC tea

or or bourbon Ginger that was the only thing I didn't

consider so welcome back to Doom to fail we're joining you on the sunny Wednesday

it is lovely and we are going to cover a tailor specific topic which is going to

probably involve H give me a clue give you one clue um well I can give you tell you

what my drink is is it ginger ale no it's a barito which is a coffee

cocktail made with espresso condensed milk Lor 43 whipped egg whites and sweetened

milk let me look at that this looks why does everybody make this I've

never seen this before I feel like you would like it because you love an espresso you love a espresso Martini coffee flavored

booze yeah uh definitely this looks incredible I'm going to order one of

these the next time I go out to drink which is probably tomorrow gonna be like what are you talking about I don't have

any egg whites so okay so your drink is a barito I'm looking it up and it looks

like it's very famous in tenar reef and tenar reef is topic that I covered so I doubt you're covering the plane crash

again because I'm not okay so but I

am I'm going to go back to tene and talk about the ancient people that lived there before the Spanish Conquest got it

okay cool all right y I was looking at my list and I have a culture on my list

that I wanted to talk about they were eradicated by the Spanish in the 1400s and then when I was reading more

about it I realized that they are the prehispanic natives of tener so they are

the guanes people guanes comes from the words Guan and anet which mean person of

tener to the people who live there being sort of so this is on so we're basically

covering the people that called in the terrorist attack that caused the accident in tenor kind of kind of I'll

tell you I'll tell you about that that group and like what they what they want um but there aren't really a lot of the

there aren't guanes people really left but there is a bunch of like DNA stuff to figure out like where they came from

and who they were we don't know a ton about them but they were essentially like a stone AG civilization that lived

on the seven Canary Islands and they were eradicated during the Spanish

Conquest that lasted from 1402 to 1496 Okay cool

so some people think this is like like fun things that are not true but they are like the original people of Atlantis

because they were like tall and like biger than like other people um there's

a there are sculptures on tener right now they are made by the sculptor Jose

Abad in 1993 so they're not ancient sculptures they're new sculptures but they make them look dope as [ __ ] they're

like big and strong and like have like spars they look like you know the people in Aquaman essentially wait how do I how

do I find that look up uh guan's G an c h e has statues I'll show you those

seven statues they're big Bronze Statues oh those look cool they look cool the Canary Islands themselves there

are seven islands they are from largest to smallest tene um Fort of ventur grand

Canaria lanot lap lagma and Elario

and they are way closer to Africa than I thought I don't know if when you were looking at the Ten of airport disaster

did you notice how close they were to Africa and not that close to Spain so they're like like Spain and Africa like

nearly touched by the straight of jalter right that's what that is and then right below that the the Canary

Islands are like not next to Spain they're next to Africa I'm looking at it now yeah they

are volcanic islands oh wait okay yeah yeah you know what I mean yeah so yeah

it's it's like it's more Middle Eastern but it's on Africa yeah it's like Northern Africa it's Northern

yeah um so they are volcanic islands and they come from a group of underwater mountains and there are the highest peak

on the Canary Islands is a volcano on tene so someday fingers crossed we can

talk about it again when it erupt but right now it hasn't erupted in like 30,000 years but damn it it could happen

the word Canary comes from Canaria which me is Latin for dog which I is not what

I expected yeah that's seems It's like calling a dog a canary I thought it was like Canary like a lot of birds but it

had a lot of dogs so I would have absolutely assumed that I was wrong um and you know how we know it had a lot of

dogs guess who wrote about it 2,000 years ago peny the Elder he did yep guys

everywhere everywhere he didn't go there but he had information about it they were visited by the Phoenicians the

carthaginians the Romans like they had been there it doesn't sound well here's

what we don't know this is like a big bunch of [ __ ] that we don't know but when plenty of the elders heard about

people going there he heard that they got there and there were ruins and this was like in like zero like year zero is

so getting there there were ruins of a civilization so at some point some

people must have lived there and then disappeared right but we don't know anything about those people because

there are the people we know about does that make sense so the people we know about the guanches they probably moved

there between like 51,000 BC so they were there maybe after or during another

civilization living there probably after a first one did we don't know anything about that one they got there from

Northern Africa they are part of the Berber ethnic group and berbers are

pre-arab North Africans so they're like Stone aged Africans similar to and like

they have similar cultural things to the the Egyptians they like mummified their dead which we'll talk about um and

Berber is also a slur from the Romans meaning Barbarian essentially um and so

it means like a whole bunch it's not like one group it's a whole bunch of these like Northern African tribal

people ree Arab they look like me they look like you yeah they look like

everyone yeah wait Taylor real quick Side Story when I was in Dollywood there

was this part that had like all these paintings you go by and it was all about Jesus and so Jesus was painted into like

every like it was hidden he was hidden all the paintings and all these people were like just shelling out all their money to buy these paintings of like a

hidden Jesus to find and I was like Rachel like should I tell these people

that he looks more like me than what this guy's painting and she's like they will absolutely Tarn feather you they

don't they don't want to hear it they don't want to hear it I think it little too tall to be Jesus even yeah oh man

wait kids have an orchestra they're in like an orchestra Florence plays the violin and um there's it's at a church

and there's like hilarious painting Jesus where he is like 100% flirting with you he looks like a dude in Brooklyn and he's just like hello you're

like oh God like why does he have abs like why does he need a sixpack why do you look like that Jesus

um yeah no totally yes they look like you they're Middle East Northern African people like Moroccan people like that's

where they came from they got there on

boats because it's an island so how how else the [ __ ] did you get there they got there on boats but they never left so

the seven different Islands had different groups of people like they couldn't even really talk to each other and they didn't really travel back and

forth because they didn't have boats they didn't have any navigational system so at some point they were forced to the

Canary Islands so it could have been like the Romans made these specific tribes that people leave for some reason

or they were running from something but they went there with goats pigs and

seeds they were like exiled there as a people for some reason that we don't know it's awesome you can Exile me there

if you want 100% Exile me somewhere happy to go so they're here they also

have no metal so they have wooden swords stone tools and no navigational system

so they lived in caves they had a close relationship with the mountains and wanted to be higher so they had a lot of

like you know they lived a lot in caves they had Stone houses there are some like wild lavender wild fennel there's a

tree called the dragon tree that looks like the Joshua Tree um so it's like a it's like a beautiful island that's why

people go there now you of course that's why it's like a big tourist spot because it's gorgeous um again send me there

with some seeds I'll figure it out fine um so uh so it's pretty

isolated um they could have had people potentially swim between the islands and

that's how they would have like communicated with each other in in some way so they had some like translators they had no writing system but they had

some like paintings there's some cave paintings that you can see now so they varied a little bit in culture but they

were definitely from the same um like Berber people and that's where you'll

remember in 1977 the movement for the indep independence and self-determination of the canaries

archipelago cut it down you got to cut it down I had to do the whole thing movement for the independence and

self-determination of the canaries archipelago you to make it snappy something something that's six Isis isil

Alca so that movement is was not very successful as you know and a lot of it

was because it was super violent people didn't love that um but they wanted the people of the Canary Islands to go back

to speaking their Berber languages rather than Spanish but it's an interesting thing because I think I'm

going to say this later but Spanish wasn't even the official language of Spain who knows what this place was called at this point until 1492 and so

like the berbers all spoke different languages the guanes all spoke different languages so it's not like there's

there's no really like culture they can go back to because it never was one huge thing and it's changed so much you know

wait so what was Spain in for the 1400 1300s it was like the same as like the rest of Europe it was like a bunch of

little like um like little kingdoms little Thoms like little things you know

and then like eventually it was like bigger and bigger but I'm going to just skip to this part because

the 1400s is right after the Middle Ages you know like there's not like it's just

like we kind of went from from like Middle Ages to people doing this like World

exploration and pretty quickly I feel like when time way time is so like Middle Ages they didn't have a lot of

like metal and things like that and then all a sudden you have this like kind more opulent Spain and sure there's a

lot more to that but it feels like it's closer to the Middle Ages than I than I thought it was that makes

sense yeah what's the implication like I felt like when I hear Middle Ages I don't

feel like I can put together like the in my head like a seafaring people like the Spanish you

were saying pador felt a little bit they had like a little bit more stuff you know right right but um that's what that

those terrorists are trying to do when they bomb that airport and indirectly caused the the tenf airport disaster but

that you know didn't didn't work out um there are some places on the grand

Canary Island that are some like AR archaeological sites of

where the people had lived so a lot of them lived in caves on gr Canary there

is a silo in the mountains called the Valyrian Cobo de or the Cobo de valan

which is a silo and it it's like really cool it's like a big side of the rocks

and it has like little holes dug into it all over where they would store grain and barley and other things and they

would have like these wooden plate these wooden doors over them and the wooden doors all had markers so someone would

like guard it all night and they would like Dole it out like a store so it was like pretty Advanced for like way they were keeping track of their stuff and I

forgot to say I watched a bunch of YouTube videos and they're all like four minutes long and they have really nothing to say one of them was hilarious

he was like I'm here on Henri I'm going to go to these museums and he was like oh they're all closed today thanks for

watching I was like did you post this know what's funny is I'm on Lonely Planet right now looking up the eight

places to visit in tene I was like like what is it like like I don't yeah look I

don't know anybody that's been yeah either um in there's also a qua

Pinta that is a decorated cave and a Risco Cado is like these complex cave

dwellings so we have the like caves that they used to live in we know they lived in ston houses um so a very like Stone

Age culture um on tene in particular it's largest island so we know more

about them um we do know that they mummified their people and we know that because we have the mummies and so not

all of the islands did it but they definitely did they wouldn't balm them they would spend time with their dead so

they would like be with them in the high caves they would actually put them like higher up in the caves to be closer to like the gods and then I was thinking

where all where are all of the mummies because like even if like just royalty

and like rich people are mummified in these cultures there should be a [ __ ] ton more mummies you know because it

makes sense that we don't have like everybody's body because they was like thrown into like a body pit for most of the time but like the mummies

technically should have stayed have you thought ever thought about that I mean what do I I have the answer but did you

put because they're cursed because they'll right well curses aren't real

so no that's why they call you buzz kill Taylor that's why they call me that yeah

it is but it is actually a magical answer um it's because Europeans ate them eight them they would ground them

into powder and use them in magical cures that's that's that's great yeah I think

I'm that that's why we don't have any and that's probably why Europe is so powerful because they ate all the

mummies oh my God what if it actually works but now there's no more mummies now there's no more but I don't even

know where to find one anymore because they're all they've all been eaten so they did M for other people but there

aren't a lot left because they were all shipped to Europe and ground down to powder and given to a magician so well

next time we hang out Taylor we'll go we'll go grave Robin and see if we can find at least like a corpse any corpse

it has to be a really old one because it has to be able to turn to dust and like how long does that take yeah 50/50 if we

just get a regular corpse and eat it maybe it's like half hour that's fine you can go to a crematorium yeah there you go and just

like get some dust love it great good idea

fine so the religion of of the guanes it uh there was like one God called aaman

supreme god and then other gods kind of underneath him as well and there were some like beings there were multiple

gods um there is evidence that they did human sacrifice and sometimes they would

throw a living child from the um from a mountain at at Su at sunrise on the

summer solstice like you do uh just to make sure you know that crops are good

whatever works yes like Midsummer yeah yeah yeah yeah and they are also they say that there

also maybe been some human sacrifices when the king died adult men would rush into the sea and you know everyone would

die and they would throw or they throw people into the sea after the king died which so there's there's a Hard Rock

Hotel in tener Reef e it's incredible I didn't know those existed

anymore oh I guess one Vegas is moving I don't know well that's gross um good for

them um Okay so that's a little bit of of them before we know the Romans visited first cuz plenty of the elders

friends had been there in 1150 an Arab geographer named

Muhammad Al adzy he visited and made you know some notes in the population so

they weren't completely isolated people knew that they were there so in now it's

the 1400s specifically it's 1402 and that is when the castian conquest begins

so it began with a the conquest of L zote in 1399 I guess that was just casual cuz it officially started in 1402

and it lasts until 1496 when tene was the last Island to fall which is a really long time it's like almost 100

years so like generations of people are fighting for this so there's a lot going on in this area in this time obviously

so you'll remember like Columbus happens in you know 1492 which is like towards

the end of this but that's when he like goes across the ocean blah blah blah but people had done that before and another

thing about that I want to make sure to talk about about like sea fairing peoples so the latest Dan Carlin was

about his third installment about the Vikings and he talks in like Dan Carlin

detail about what it must have been like to be on a Viking ship because it's like an open ship you know there's no like

downstairs and so you're on the ship with you know potentially like women and children and families and goats and all

these things just in the darkness of the sea like going and trying to find something you know and like finding

Iceland or like finding Greenland and like you know doing that and you don't know how long you're going to go and it's like very rudimentary so there

definitely was that and also in like Polynesia you know Polynesian got to

Hawaii somehow on these boats like out in the middle of the oceans kind of left

to the um you know it's not a cruise ship it's like but so many people died

so many people probably died so people were doing this have have been doing this for centuries at this time some of

the two of the boats that went with Columbus either the Nina the P maybe the Nina and the Pinta were really small

they didn't have it downstairs either they were kind of like out on the elements boats only one of them had like was a little bit bigger but Europeans

weren't doing this they weren't doing that like long sailing out into the middle of nowhere during this time they

were sailing really close to the shore so one of the things that when Columbus

did that was like so interesting to everybody was that he left sight of the shore and they hadn't done that yet other cers had but they hadn't you know

and um they I wrote Some of columbus' boats were shitty and I feel okay saying that

because he's Columbus um so the canaries are a great place to start because you can actually

see the peak of the volcano Ti from Africa on a clear day so it's not that

far it's not that scary yeah right you know where it is pretty much

so if the people of the seven Canary Islands would have had navigation and

would have had boats and would have been able to talk to each other they probably could have worked together but it wasn't like that so the Spanish were going to

like Island by Island and conquering them one by one there's a legend of a princess aeko on lerot and in this

Legend a captain named Riz Ruiz D Avendano and his crew came over and they

became friends with the King there King zonas and stayed several days and then

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thanks as they say in Spanish and so uh later when the king the island

was conquered and the King was taken away they had to figure out who was going to be the next ruler and it was

going to be Princess iso's Husband um and they needed to

prove that she was actually part of the Royal Line in order to make him the new leader so they obviously put her in a

cave with three women who they knew weren't Royal and set the cave on fire and filled it with smoke and if she

survived then she was Royal and she survived Legend Has It by putting a

sponge a wet sponge up to her face and breathing through the sponge and she just let the other women die I mean I

would the ruler yeah I would for sure let them die so stuff like that is

happening around um but bit by bit the last island is tenie it's the last one

to fall in the 1490s um they have a great king um it is King Tinie it's a

little bit different but King Tinie and the thing that happens again and again

is that he died and he had to divide the island up between his dumb Sons which always happens um and so you

have to be very careful with who's next nine Sons is too many because they're never going to agree on anything and um

you're going to have lots of problems and so king tenf lived in ad which is a

town on the southwest of the island his nine Sons divided up the island into

nine kingdoms sharing the middle so the Middle where like the volcano is and the mountain is they shared that and they

all had the nine on the outside nine little little places kind of for AED

yeah so I mean it's not a ton of land it's a little bit so of his nine sons and this is

like this is the most that we know because this is women Spanish are really in there like talking to them and

getting to know them so these are actually in alphabetical order his son

Al he assimilated with the Spanish pretty quickly

and he his PE his people even said that they saw Virgin Mary on the beach in the 1300s they were like ready to be

Christian they did not but also good for her if she was on the beach so they were like oh yeah like a

hundred years ago we saw the Virgin Mary in a beach so we're totally on your side

probably just to not get killed oh would that make her 1300 years

old well yeah she's 1300 years old but she's the Virgin Mary

so she oh yeah I guess she can just come and go right yeah yeah exactly got it got it makes sense miles and I the kids

have been talking about time and they're like well if Jesus is only was 2,000 years old and like and he's God then he

couldn't have made the Earth because Earth is older I was like yeah exactly and then miles goes why do people

believe in it I was like why do you think and he goes huh guess it makes I'm happy I was like exactly super cute wait

I think Jesus is the son of God but he's not actually God some people think he's both it's very confusing I don't God so

hard he looked like me anyway so then his son

Adonia atonia he signed the peace treaty in 1490 with the governor of the grand

Canaria Pedro DEA he went to Spain and returned to the island to assimilate so so far they were like cool we'll be

Spanish um and Verte was the first to join a peace pact and he provided the

Spanish with help against his brothers so first three we're ready to give it up

yeah then there's Ben KO he led the most bloody battle which was in 1494 which

was called the first battle of an of asento where a thousand Spanish were killed so that was like the one where

they actually had a good resistance and the Second Battle of an of antio was a

loss and beno's son bentor died by suicide because he was leading that battle and he was embarrassed so Beno

put up the biggest resistance to the Spanish and his like little tiny part of the island um there's benario he made

peace with the Spanish He took it back because as soon as he made peace with them the Spanish came in and stole a

bunch of people to enslave them and he was like let's [ __ ] up and then they

apologized and he went back to their side well it never stops it never stops

trying to slay people um and then there's pelicar he allied with bomo in the um in the big um the big battle he

was taken back to Spain to the court of Catholic monarchs by Alonzo Fernandez delugo along with six others and

presented to presented to the king and queen he was sold into slavery slavery

unfairly by the Royal Butler Pedro panito who then delivered who pretended to be his guardian and then um we don't

know what really happened to him he probably he could have ended his days in Seville as a free man which is so

bizarre that you're like the prince of this Ancient King of this island and you

end up living in Seville like it reminds me of like didn't Kim Jong-un just go live in

Switzerland or France or something and just go to Disney World all day he did isn't that weird I guess you just want

to be normal he um do you see the thing he did this week where he was crying about not having babies was that real I

thought that was the onion was that a real story it was real he like had did a speech in front of like Korean mothers Association and was like we need to have

more kids and he's like fake crying because their population is slowing because nobody's having kids or they all

dying probably all dying I just it's so weird there's a part of the world that we don't know what's happening in yeah

right and not because it's like undiscovered it's because it's like scary and weird yeah not worth

feeling uh but okay couple more kids pelor he signed the peace treaty in 1490

he ended up um receiving a villa and like a Valley in the in the area and

kind of like as peace offerings so he ended up staying there and he got a coat of arms and they lived in Spain U there

was Roman he was taken to Spain sold into slavery and then to guste um after

in 1496 after the LA the loss of his brother's kingdoms he surrendered so he

was like the last one to resp to surrender in that act of submission as known as the P balios so sorry to my

in-laws who speak Spanish listening to this um and then that was it it was 1496

the Canary Islands were conquered by Spain became the first Colonial territory of the Spanish Empire and um

at least four of the islands you know had like a very violent resistance and tried to

save themselves and it lasted you know almost 100 years before they finally finally did it maybe they're still doing

it well like barely and like we don't know who the people actually are I feel

like DNA tests actually be really helpful here because by 1600 like the guanes as a people were largely wiped

out you know like they either assimilated into Spanish culture or were

or died so there's it's not like so I think there's what's cool now is that

they're able to take like the mummies and do DNA testing on there so like half the Wikipedia pages are about like M RNA

and apple groups and like where they came from because then we can figure out where they came from and where they went but the bers weren't just one people

either you know so it's like it's hard when there are so many little groups of people most of time that's it I feel

like I don't know a ton about these people but it's interesting about isolated peoples because there aren't

that many you know we do one on the north sanges we should I rewatched that John

cow thing and I was of him recently makes me so mad I was like howling and

laughing my ass off at like how awesome it was they just [ __ ] gutted him like a fish like don't try and change people

like yeah yeah that's like the most justifiable homicide I've ever heard of my

life yeah no absolutely unbelievable uh I did go I'm not gonna lie while you

were talking I did go to Airbnb and I looked upath guys if you want to have

like a dream vacation pretty

cheap it's it looks amazing like there was one I saw for $42 it was almost like

in the water it was a three-story condo they like it was a

freestanding three-story building and it was literally like the water was like in front of you for 42

bucks a night it's great was insane yeah I feel like it it looks really beautiful I the Canary Islands look beautiful and

like um it's cool to think that like you

could have just avoided all that nonsense of like the Crusades you know

and like all this [ __ ] is happening like in Europe and you're just like I'm just going to live in my cave and like fish

in these beautiful Waters until someone comes and bothers me and then I guess I'll do something about it but for

whatever reason and we don't know why they were there in the first place so maybe they were like doing something bad

maybe they were doing something cool maybe they were like I don't know maybe they maybe it's like Australia and they're all yeah yeah that's what I was

thinking I was like was like like Australia like I mean they're the funnest people out there and they're all just descendants of convicts

yeah so I don't know who knows so I hope that they had many many many generations

of a great [ __ ] time and then you know before it all went to [ __ ] before

it all went to [ __ ] um totally off topic there's

McDonald's is apparently going into the coffee business like full hog and they

created a entity a separate entity that's called c MC so Mick at the end C

at the front so the way I read it is Cosmic and in Austin there's like an

incredibly old famous reputable establishment that has several locations

called Cosmic coffee and I'm just like I am I can already see McDonald's suing

them for their own name poor guys they have no chance I

mean it's going to be it's gonna be fun you can St at this Fisherman's Cottage oh my God it's gorgeous next to the

water crazy D dude like run a filter for like beach front and it's just like what

is this $59 what's this one this is insane $59 oh my God the entire all

white and it's like really clean and you just oh my God and all the pictures and this some it's just like a open book and

a cup of coffee I'm like don't threaten me with a good time this is stunningly beautiful like

go I would absolutely invade this that's and you can see it it's

close enough to be in invadable you know it's not it's not a mystery like the

rest of the world is really Taylor all right we should make some plans we

should seriously make some plans talk to onean I know we've hung out a lot this year but we have only stayed in the country which is

lame we could so do this yeah we could rent like a two-bedroom or three-bedroom

house we stay on one side you stay on the other we can get something dope like imagine if we pulled our money together we get a great place you know oh my God

this one has an infinity pool I've never even been in an infinity pool I don't

even I didn't even know they were real I thought they were just Illusions thought they were all made by AI for rich people

to pretend that they live in places what's this one that 68 a night

o anyway anyway that's my story at some point look at look look at um

it's okay so the one I just slacked you look at like the fourth picture so you look at the first one and that's your

pool that's in the center Courtyard but look where you are in relation to the

beach like it's crazy if this was in like Miami or

California it' be like a $37,000 night save

M oh there's like like I'm just looking at the food on the table which is not what she looking at but like ring

mimosas and have a coffee French Press I'm like yes yeah we literally all we would do

you know what me and Juan would wake up in the morning we'd go into the ocean with a bunch of Spears we bring home we

bring home fish you and Rachel can gut the fish and then me and Juan will go swimming while you're gutting the fish

and then we'll you know when you're done doing that we'll get out of the pool we'll Grill it up y'all can make mimosas

we'll Grill some fish like it's just like we'll just like live there forever I can't think of on do less than gut a

fish horrify whenever I see anybody do it in a movie I'm like I wish I was dead like I just can't even I don't want to

look that anymore it's like let guys I know we come back just with skewers of dead fishing like we just ordered take

out there's calar like I don't know what your plan was with that but like we're not that'd be fun I can be a little

little a little fisherman I love it um well thanks for sharing and now you just

spawn like 50 different ideas on vacations that if you go if you've been there let us know if you're a European

and you're closer let us know like if you're North African you're closer you can go there more easier easier than we

can let us know if you've been there I'm sure that people have I'm sure why not I

love how we end my episode about a child being

decapitated and which woman was holding his head when it came off and then we go into like we're going to go into the

ancient cultures of these people and a little later imagine just like really

tall hot people on the top of this an island and you know actually cooking

their fish and then mummifying their people and that sounds real nice yeah and somebody was there to gut the

fish probably the women probably the women um that is that is your plight

Taylor thank you for sharing you're welcome I have one ma piece of mail for this episode um our friend naen asked us

if we had ever asked people for their own red flag stories um you know and our red flags I think this week are you know

don't go on a roller coaster that was made by someone who's not a engineer and

if you're isolated good luck super coming for you but naen has a scary story that she was dating someone who

was um really kind of a deadbeat and he tried to go and see her at her parents

house and he he took a cab there and he didn't have any money so he got out of the cab and hid in the bushes and the

cab driver was was like Furious and like trying to find him and then she ended up having to like find him and pay the C

driver and he was still drunk and it was just like really awful and that was her big red flag she's like Jes [ __ ] so I do

out of that in aen because that sounds terrible and stuff like that is crazy

yeah that's rough that's rough I love reading those Buzz feeds of like tell us

tell us a story of like a close call you had and it's like my great aunt went on

two dates with Ted Bundy you know it's just oh God so so interesting totally

totally yeah if you have any red flaggy stories or if you're like newest serial killer or anything that let us know was

F to talk about trying think my new newest serial killer I don't think so have yeah no

it's fair I have to edit all this out so if I did edit this out everybody know that I had to edit out the past five

minutes and that's why it skipped forward in the way that fine it's fine everything's fine cool so Taylor thank

you for this I'll go ahead and cut off the recording at this [Music]

point