It's our final #volcano episode! We are going to #yellowstone #nationalpark to talk about what might happen if the #supervolcano erupts - but before that, we'll talk about the volcanoes on the moon & other planets in our solar system. We'll also talk about the 5 previous #MassExtinctions that Earth has seen. Will it happen to humans? Yes. Will it happen in our lifetimes? Probably not. We are honestly so excited that we've made it this far! We have learned SO MUCH and had so much fun telling these stories! Thank you for listening!!
It's our final #volcano episode! We are going to #yellowstone #nationalpark to talk about what might happen if the #supervolcano erupts - but before that, we'll talk about the volcanoes on the moon & other planets in our solar system. We'll also talk about the 5 previous #MassExtinctions that Earth has seen. Will it happen to humans? Yes. Will it happen in our lifetimes? Probably not.
We are honestly so excited that we've made it this far! We have learned SO MUCH and had so much fun telling these stories! Thank you for listening!!
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I watched some movies - some so bad I don’t even remember what they are! But I definitely watched the day after tomorrow, which was great
BBC Supervolcano : The truth about Yellowstone (Full Documentary)
Books:
Super Volcanoes: What They Reveal about Earth and the Worlds Beyond - which was not at all about super volcanoes
Woman Sentenced to 7 Days in Jail for Walking in Yellowstone’s Thermal Area - The New York Times
British Airways Flight 009 - Wikipedia
Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor
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Americans ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your
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we're here Taylor we are here on a sunny Sunday
afternoon having a conver night time okay yep having a conversation that is
going to lead to an epic episode as I'm sure we are heading into so I'll kick us
off welcome to Duna fail the podcast where we cover two topics one historic one true crime or whatever the [ __ ] we
feel like whenever we feel like because when your business we're not getting
paid and we can do whatever we want so I'm fars joined here by Taylor hi
Taylor how are you good how are you I'm good I have a very fancy wait
par hold on a second Taylor was talking to one okay we got a thumbs up no um
they're going to the store um you don't want anything no but once I leave I I can get
some wine because I thought I had to go to the store but if I don't have to go to the store then I can drink some wine okay so I am drinking a very fancy
Manhattan in a plastic sippy cup oh weird yeah weird okay it's not it's not
a child sippy cup because that would be creepy it's like a little plastic cup I got from denata which is a Mexican restaurant here I mean that's exactly
what a child's C cup looks like I actually am in actively throwing mine away because I am over having different
dishes for children and adults it's just and here I am an adult with no children with children cups which isn't creepy at
all um I do actually remember for change who goes first it is you and these my
legs these my lovely lovely legs it's a lot of leg right now it's a lot of leg
Yeah I just I just feel like for visual everyone should know that fars wears like the deepest v-neck possible and or
potentially you're wearing just a hoodie that's half unzipped is that what's happening uh this is what was formally
called a wife beater but apparently beating your wife beating your wife is inappropriate these days um wait what
what do the kids call them now um airts or girl friend beaters maybe I
don't know I don't know what no don't airt that's what I heard a shirt there we go I'm wearing an a shirt uh no
beating a women alow so 2005 of you cool thanks so today is your turn to go first
so I want to continue our game of me guessing what you're going to be talking
about so why don't we start by you telling me what you're
drinking um I was going to drink um for the SE seon mostly um hypothetically
drinking some spiced eggnog cuz I had some yesterday it was pretty good I have eggnog it's in the fridge I also have
apress more te in the fridge I bet you do not trying to brag okay so that doesn't give me any clues as to what you're doing so give me a clue a little
bit because I think the spicy thing is part of it um I I read two it's not helpful I read two books I watched a um
a documentary of the BBC did this is I'm
actually so I'm actually going to start talking about the universe and our solar system and
then pull all the way back to the 12,000 years that humans have been on the earth
pretty much okay so we're talking about Evolution not
really we're talking about the Earth as a structure no um I feel like
anything else I say is going to just tell you what it is I think she just tell me what it is
I'm just going to finish my volcano series with volcano number seven Yellowstone that has nothing to do with
pumpkin spice no I said spicy because I feel like volcanos are spicy drinks not gonna have like a sweet drink if I'm if
I'm drinking a volcano it doesn't matter you know what about volcanos your logic
your logic actually kind of tracks and I will say that I'm super curious when you
first started being like I'm going to do a seven Port series on volcanoes and I just like dug directly into yellow ston
I was like dude that would be epic like not good it wouldn't be good
oh no but it would be epic because apparently [ __ ] huge and it is
whenever whenever that thing pops off it will well we will already have been
converted into batteries for the AI Bots probably yeah that's actually part of it
yeah it'll be fun no totally I think that that's I'm excited that you know a little bit about
it CU we just talk about that I also want to say I never thought I'd get here and I'm just really proud of myself for doing seven hours of content on
volcanoes technically pretty much Taylor we're on like episode 70 I'm proud of us for having done this for this long I
know I can't believe that we did this this year I'm like what I just it's really cool so yes I am very proud of
both of us for all the things Cheers Cheers um so to prep for this episode I
watched a documentary from the BBC called super volcano which I think is actually the first time anyone ever used
the word super volcano they like made it up to get viewers obviously which makes sense um I read a book called super
volcanoes what they reveal about Earth and the worlds Beyond which is not at all about super volcanoes basically it
has like one sentence about Yellowstone it's like it's not going to happen calm down and then talks about other planets
so we'll talk about that I WR a book called the ends of the world volcanic apocalypses lethal oceans and our quest
to understand Earth's past mass extinctions so talk about those um and then a couple art articles I read as
well um oh I also watched a ton of end of the world movies which ones I
honestly some of them were so bad I can't even remember I like thought about looking it up but there's one that was awful I watched obviously um the day
after tomorrow which was great oh my God and it's always great and then the day after tomorrow turned into a movie that
I did not finish but it was like a Hallmark movie with our friend Laura Harris called snowmageddon it just like
like kind of like flows into like the next movie you know and it was snowmageddon which is definitely like it was like lifetime is movie because it
was about like a kid who had a um a snow globe that like was causing disasters so
like it's not true at all but she's a helicopter pilot was hilarious so her helicopter like crashes in the in the
mountains and it doesn't explode it just like she just like waks up and there's like pieces of helicopter all around her in the snow it's so funny but as her
helicopter was crashing there was a real earthquake at my house that's told yeah
you it was scary because it was like happening in the movie it was like and then all a sudden everything in my house was like so it was a 3.3 didn't you tell
say that like Laura played like someone's great grandmother or something no Laura played okay so our friend Laura
Harris if you know who she is she's like looks super young this was like a movie
She Made like 10 years ago but the girl who played her daughter was like five years younger than her at best you know
and people were like in the in the movie they were like oh my God your teenage daughter and I'm like I wouldn't in a million years have guess that she was
supposed to be your teenage daughter Laura's like maybe 40 years old like yeah it was like ridiculous the woman to
pay the daughter was like at least 27 I was like this is dumb I do not believe she's 15 but but anyway so I watched a
bunch of those um another takeaway that I have is in oh you know what I watch I watch Leave the World Behind have you
seen that one it's a new one oh my God okay Taylor hold on let's talk about this okay
so I'm not hearing enough talk about the fact that the Obamas produced
it and it's like like do they really yeah it says in the opening credits no
it's like it's like dude like they're probably trying to say something like
like it's kind of like what the only time I heard there was one podcast I listened to where they brought it up and
and the way they brought it up was like Obama you're giving away all of our secrets to like other countries like if this is what we're planning to do to
other people you shouldn't be telling it like every but it's just like I don't know it's creepy it's like that really
yeah yeah no I think I think that well I guess spoiler alert pause and forward
two minutes but like basically people can't be trusted all you have to do is like mess us up and tell us that
something bad is going to happen and we will destroy ourselves yeah we're kind of already doing that yeah 10 that
absolutely will happen people will start literally why I other immediately about politics because it's like nothing
happens nothing good happens yeah no that they yes I agree that they're telling us what's going to happen and
what's going to happen is we're going to destroy ourselves like we don't need someone to destroy us we can destroy ourselves cool cool cool cool I also
think that yeah it's wait aren't you getting wine oh I was going to but I don't have
to I can wait till I'm done I'll get it when I'm done okay um
so there's a lot of ways that we're going to die that is not have anything to do with Yellowstone erupting but
let's get there so I have four sections to talk about about volcanoes and other planets Earth's mass
extinctions we'll recap our volcanoes and we'll talk about Yellowstone y cool
so first we'll we'll pull all the way back and talk about other planets in our solar system and our universe we know so
little about space it's like unbelievable how little we know and we're just like in it like it's no big
deal but like we have no idea what's out there but we do know that a lot of other
planets had volcanoes because of like the the way they look and the rocks and stuff that
we've gotten back from them so like the moon Mercury Mars have all had volcanoes
Mars has the largest volcano in the solar system it's called the Olympus Mons and it's like a hundred times
bigger than anything on Earth but about this one dormant yeah like allegedly
dormant but we don't know what's going on also like other planets as far as we know don't have the tonic plates that we
have because they don't have water so like things aren't moving in like weird ways like the I don't know if it's just
because of the water but like they're not having those like things that we're having or at least not anymore like they
might have had all of those like the plates and the the volcanoes and the
subduction zones and all the stuff we've learned but they don't anymore they just have like the remnants of it in like
shapes yeah it's like dead planets basically yeah and Earth has active volcanoes obviously
we're here Jupiter's moon IO has active volcanoes Venus might but we're not 100%
sure so there might be like volcanic activity happening on on Venus currently
but we don't know and then EO definitely does um that's important
because these other planets can either be a future state of what can and will happen to the Earth or like potentially
like a like a state on the way to becoming like Earth so we just like aren't sure but it could mean something
and it means something that the volcanoes are there because even in places like underwater on Earth where
there are volcanoes like happening underwater there is life there there's those hydrothermal vents that are under
the ocean they're hot as balls but things live there yeah you know not like
people but like microorganisms and they like it there yeah like worms there's worms down there yeah so like it could
mean that there's you know if there's life in other planets probably worms you know what I mean makes sense yeah um
so even the moon could have looked more like Earth at some point like when its volcanoes were actively erupting because
as we've seen before like when volcanoes are erupting it's also like kind of cleansing the land and like we're seeing
new things that grow so you've had the opportunity to see that a couple times on like in recent history when you know
after katoa an island was totally destroyed but then what happens after like birds start coming they poop out
seeds things start happening like what happens when you start from zero and then things start happening so a lot
that we don't know um but the point is in order for us to be here to have this
world that has water that has biodiversity that has plants that has any of these things we're just really
really [ __ ] lucky this is just a blip in all of time I mean also we wouldn't
never know if we weren't lucky course but like but we are like we're just it's
just such a unbelievably ridiculous short amount of time that we've even
kind of been here and we're just like trashing the joint yeah we're just trash in the joint yeah we're like a we're
like a rot metal band that like checks into the Beverly Hilton and just [ __ ] goes ape [ __ ] yeah we're acting like
we'll always be here and we definitely won't we don't know that Taylor we
absolutely will not always be here we might be well I have some ideas of where we're going to go at the end after this
but not always going to be here the way we are right now if I can have if I can have like one
more arm that'd be kind of cool if I could have one more Arm coming out my chest and that helps with adaptations
and evolution that'd be kind of cool yeah I mean sure I could clap like three
ways I don't know why you want to do that but great type faster the options there yeah um so the point is there's a
lot of other things happening on other planets that have to do with volcanoes and they've happened in like the million years in the past we don't know the
details but it'd be cool to know more and maybe someday we will but really we don't um in the super volcano book I was
reading basically he was like this is super exciting it's super fun to think about and there's all these people who
are um studying it and they're just really [ __ ] excited too you know it's like cool to think about because we
don't know yeah makes sense exist out in space so on Earth we again need to talk
about how short of a Time humans have been on the planet so planet's been around for millions and
millions of years humans have been around for about 300,000 years and it's
only been in the last like 12,000 years that we popped out of the last ice age and have been able to like Thrive the
way that we have been and these last 12,000 years have
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thanks it's B whole planet's been on fire whole planet's been ice like these past 12,000 years have been like kind of
the nicest that we've ever known about and that's why we're here sweet I'll take it you know
so we also only only have about 5,000 years of time recorded um like history
recorded history and that's 1.6% of all the time that humans have been around I'm getting closer to you because that
is so upsetting to me isn't isn't like the prevailing Christian Science that
the Earth is 5,000 years old yeah so dumb because that's as long as we can go back but like they got it all right
right well yeah yeah um but no we go back way further than that and we don't know what happened which is crazy like
just blows my mind don't know what happened um and I don't even understand
okay this tell me this makes sense so we have 1.6% of 300,000 years of human
history recorded what if humans are around in the way that like we think we are right now for the next like 100,000
years what if we had a 100,000 years of history recorded how would we even handle that this just too much
information that's like too many stories and myths and histories and buildings and technology and cultures and like
that's too much stuff how would we handle that AI it's GNA have to be AI probably more
robot because it's too much um so anyway that's just stuff is just like freaking
me out because I'm so both terrified that we have no record of most of human
history and also overwhelmed by the thought of if we did have that record what we would do with it and how we
would survive me I don't know I don't know if it would make an impact I mean you just like know what somebody ate
7,000 years ago right I mean was what their life's like today I carved a stone like how many times can you read that
story 50 times before you're bored like I guess I still I don't know I
guess I love your optimism I'm sorry I'm not meaning to show I don't even think it's optimism I was like not even sure
what to do with this information I'm just like I don't know what to do with this so the end of the
world is not GNA happen in a day it's gonna happen over like thousands or
hundreds of years um and then and then things will change so and this is what
we know from the past mass extinctions that we know about on Earth but we do know and I feel confident in saying that
the way things are right now will disappear someday so if not like today because Yellow Stone erupts someday it
will this will all be gone if it's like in you know 800 million years when the
sun explodes or sooner so I'll be gone so there's a real chance that like
Florida will be underwater and it will be maybe not in our lifetimes but someday coastal cities will be abandoned
um and that will happen but just like maybe not in our lifetimes but something will happen where the oceans will rise
eventually and people live on the coast will have to move Inland and that will cause a huge humanitarian problem so
like something will happen but we don't know what it's going to be and right now we're just lucky nothing's happened so
far but we also haven't been here that long so that's probably why nothing's happened so far yeah makes sense it also means that like
your like cabin in Montana could be prime Ocean Front Real Estate One Day 100% and it will be someday so okay on
Earth we have had five mass extinctions that we know of we know because of the
fossil record but the fossil record is like so small like there's so many
there's like estimated like I don't even know I didn't look it up millions of animals that we don't even know existed
except we don't know and I think a good example they brought up in um this book
that I in the the mass extinction book that I read is do you know how we talked about passenger pigeons yes can you tell
us a little bit about them what do you they uh they're basically were like regular looking pigeons except they I
think they had pink feet or something they had pink something I think they yeah may feet something and they
ultimately went extinct there was the LA there was one that was preserved and saved and it was the guy Leupold or L
one of those guys that actually preserved the very last Pastor pigeon and it's sitting somewhere in a museum in New York did I make everything up
they were also on the Titanic and that one of them went down with a ship and Captain Smith had I don't think leopo
and L were the person who Taxidermy the last one that happened to be in a museum but it is like a very rich white dude um
hobby to Taxidermy birds in that time so yes but there were but do you remember how many passenger pigeons there were
yeah there was like billions there were millions of them so they would fly over your house for like days like the flock
would be so huge so there were so many of this bird and then like we hunted them to death all the things and they're
gone guess how many passenger pigeons have been found in the fossil record so if you were coming in a thousand years
from now trying to figure out how many passenger pigeons there were guess how many you would find in the fossil record
I'm going to go with zero two that's pretty close to zero it's pretty close to zero so there's nothing
in the fossil record that tells you that story that you just sort of told me did did one go down with the
Titanic yes okay no but I did learn that there was one dog that died in the Titanic that's so sad that's even worse
than people dying no it's not but it is because if people chose to be that's the thing that's thing with like animal
cruelty that's so much different than human it is so much better to beat a human than it is to be an animal because an animal doesn't understand anything
that a human does like an an a human chose to go on the Titanic they chose to
wear a tuxedo and they chose not to get into a life raft whereas a poor little Pines is like I'm just going to do what
mommy tells me to do because I have no free will did you know did you know that
one of the big things is that they didn't have enough life rafts for all the people well they still could have put
one pinese in there they're not that big all right agree I disagree so the point is the
fossil record tells us almost nothing it tells us something but there's so much that we don't know so one thing that is
in in common with all mass extinctions is a level of carbon dioxide so if there's more carbon dioxide in the air
the temperature goes up if there's less it goes down and both of those things cause these mass extinctions because
even if the global temperature rises or lowers by a few degrees that makes a huge difference on like ocean levels
plants animal life all those things so here's the first one the first one is
the ovikian slur Ian nothing Extinction ovian San Extinction that happened 443
to 485 million years ago so like somewhere within this like million-year pocket it was likely a combination of
gla of glacian glacian oh my God and dropping sea levels meaning that it was
so it was cold and so the sea levels dropped and a lot of it a lot of the sea turned to ice and that makes sea level
drop because the ice goes up so it's less and so a lot of the things in the ocean died it was 60% marine species
went extinct so things like brachiopods and trilobites like the little tiny things that were in there and so what it
is is and the Plankton and the plants are fighting for the oxygen that's left and that's how you see those mass
extinctions and so again like I'm not a scientist but the dead Plankton causes
it turns into like this like green sludge and that like helps destroy the ocean and Destroy anything that's living
in the ocean so when in the ocean die like the coral reefs like is happening
today that creates this like slime as it all decays it changes oxygen levels in
the ocean and that causes a lot of things to die as well so that happened 440 something a million years
ago next was the late devonian Extinction 359 to 372 million years ago
and that also was the same thing um climate change climate changes sea level
fluctuations so the sea level is always going up and down and when it happens a lot things are going to die 70% of
species especially marine organisms like trilobites and the things that built reefs died during that one um so
nothing's really on land yet and there might not even have been that much land yet but things in the ocean are dying then the big one the biggest one
is the perian triatic extinction that happened 252 million years ago and this
was probably caused by volcanoes this is where volcanoes come in climate change
and asteroid impacts so this is because we have more land and one thing that I
just learned in this book that I was reading that I hadn't thought about but
like remember when all the continents were one thing P yes remember how we
just learned that in like the last 100 years about um continental drift and all that
so obviously the continents are still drifting and they won't always look like
this so I always assumed that they're done but they're not they're going to continually drift forever so as the
ocean goes up and down as it will as it always has things will change and they always will does that make sense Taylor
what you're talking about makes me think a lot about like global warming now yeah and framing it in like that way I'm like
well if the planet is always subject to
whatever organisms impact its environment and always cycling through those
organisms then maybe we're all going to like most of us just going to have to
die like maybe maybe like instead of stopping global warming I mean there's no stopping global warming right it's h
it's happening right now whatever like we just have to accept that like
the top 50% of humanity is probably going to survive in the bottom half
they're just going to have to walk into the ocean with lead V on like I I don't well I think yes okay so something was
always going to happen what's happening now is the amount of CO2 in the air that
we're pumping into the air is more than has ever happened before you know so like something would have happened to us
eventually we are making it happen significantly faster because we are using all of these dead animals fossil
fuel and releasing it all into the air faster than ever
before so like what we're doing was probably going to happen but we're making it happen faster yeah yeah yeah
it's just it's just like the planet's always going to like have a self-healing property it see feels like and it's like
well [ __ ] the dinosaurs or [ __ ] these single cell organisms in the ocean and
now it's eventually be like [ __ ] the humans and like I don't know if I were the planet I would 100% say that listen
guys just accept that we're you're going to die like right now like just accept that it is for you're going to be have
to walk in the ocean and that's we can do we can do things to like you know obviously like make things better blah
blah blah like I was reading recently about like remember in the 80s when like the ozone layer had a big hole in it oh
God I do the aerosol cans remember the aerosols but then we changed it and now it doesn't have a hole in it anymore you
know like yeah so we could really do things to change these things and fix
these things how did aerosol cans cre a whole I have literally no ideas let us
know doel poot at gmail.com do you understand how aerosol cans did
that scientists and PhD candidates that listen to our show just please write in
let us please yeah yeah the whole other thing um but okay the peran Triassic had
more land in it because the continents had like started to kind of make
themselves in a way that would see like a little bit more familiar um and there's a theory that totally makes
sense is that if a asteroid hits the Earth it can trigger volcanoes under the
other side of the earth which I think totally makes sense because you're like the whole earth is shaking like yeah you know it pop out on the other side so
um this one killed approximately 96% of marine species and 70% of terrestrial
vertebrates so this was not the big one that killed the dinosaurs but it like
paved the way for dinosaurs because most other things died okay makes sense did this then there's a tri Triassic
Jurassic Extinction that one is um the
has to do with volcanic activity and climate change those come in hand inand because volcano is going to be putting all that Ash all that CO2 up into the
air um about 20% of marine families and terrestrial species died including some
early dinosaurs when extinct during that time and that's like so many things that we don't even know like who knows like
what kind of animals live during that time and then the big one which is the most recent one is a Cretaceous haloe
Extinction that happened 66 million years ago that's the one that killed the dinosaurs that one is the asteroid
impact volcanic activity as the Earth is Shifting as it got hit by this big asteroid in Mexico um and I also read
like a fun like anecdote in the in the um mass extinction book where like there
were some scientists trying to find where the asteroid might have hit and other scientists had found the crater
and then they hadn't talked to each other for like 10 years until one guy finally went into a meeting with other guys and he was like oh I know where
that is and then they like figured it out so I remember I I thought I read that the whole
Yucatan crater was like reported when I was a kid like it was like I feel like
it was like a big thing when I was a kid like we found out where the asteroid hit yeah it's new it's not like an old thing
that we knew it's new yeah yeah so that one killed 75% of the species on Earth um
including the dinosaurs except the ones that obviously turned into Birds which we also didn't learn until Jurassic Park
one so and now we like talk about that all the time yeah and the Raptors didn't
even look like that the Raptors apparently were like basically chickens they were like yeah feathered and like they look stupid as [ __ ] as as a parent
to children I know a lot about dinosaurs um and if you want to learn about dinosaurs I recommend the show Dino Dana
it's so cute it's about a little girl who dinosaurs and you learn so much and it's a delight so FY so anyway some
people think that we're in the middle of the sixth mass extinction we probably aren't we're just in like one of those
times where like the Earth is going to change and we're making it go faster because we're putting more CO2 into the
air than ever before um what we're heading towards into is you know parts
of the Earth being too hot to live in and that has happened before but it's going to happen faster than it would
have naturally probably and now we're going to have to figure out what the [ __ ] should do with everyone cool can I ask a poll
of people am I the only one who feels worse for animals than I do humans I can't be the only one like when I hear
about like the last rhinoceros is like literally being guarded by men with AK-47 so they don't [ __ ] kill it for
its like horns I'm like we should literally kill every human that lives like that is
horrific what I feel I feel bad about it but I also feel like circle of life I don't think we should do it
obviously but also like I would feel worse for the last human yeah I I wouldn't I again please
write in let us know who's right and wrong here I always my heart always
bleeds billions times more for animals than it does for humans fases were so smart why didn't
they make guns Taylor I I really don't know what
I'm fighting for in this episode but there's just like a lot going on it's like you're like Elon you're so you're just like Elon Musk Elon muser not
you're just like because Elon Musk also calls himself a speciesist he's like I'm Prejudice towards a human species I want
humans to survive I'm a speciesist meanwhile I'm sitting here like dude [ __ ] it like bees are so much better
than people like why do we need like anyways go ahead well I mean eventually the bees are going to have it back I
don't you know we're not we're not going to live forever good we great well it's also another thing that happens a bunch
in these in reading about these things they talk about I'm sure you've heard about this that the AI um thing where
what if you tell AI to make paper clips do you have you heard that that no what was that so it's like like existential
theory that if you tell an AI your goal is to make as many paper clips as
possible eventually it will destroy the world to make paper clips oh yeah yeah
because it has no like bearing on like what like that's its goal so that's what it's going to do as much as [ __ ]
possible the best one I heard was um talking like just being like hey I want to make a I want to make I want you make
din dinner reservations for 700 p.m. at this restaurant for me and my wife and then it tries to make reservations
reservations are full then it tries to figure out how many people it needs to kill or how it can kill who can kill to get to the open
reservation tot great like who it is hack into the system um so okay so the
only reason we're talking about those mass extinctions and they could probably talk about them individually is cuz we're talking about Yellowstone Volcano
it would be potentially a mass extinction event and definitely we could like move towards a mass extinction
event but again it wouldn't happen in like a weekend it would happen in like 500 years at the least you know maybe
like 10,000 years if for were all totally gone so I didn't write down the order that we
talked on them talked about them but we've learned a ton we talked about um Mount Toba that happened 74,000 years
ago and that one is the one where um most humans died and only left a couple
like a you know a couple thousand breeding pairs of humans left and that's who we're all descended from that one
was a VII 8 that's the biggest we know possible and that's what Yellowstone will be when it erupts it'll be VII 8
that's the volcanic explosivity index we also talked about um vvus which was a I
should have highlighted these on my list I can't talk I don't know Theus was a five mon St Helens was a five katoa was
a six mon ple was a four um I think those are the ones we've talked about so
they all have like different things happen what no he said yep I remember
this yeah so they've all had different things happen some of them like had like Earth affecting things like obviously Toba killed tons of things on Earth but
it's still not a mass extinction it's still just like killed a lot of things and it happens because of changing
weather patterns um you know the ash in the sky like the year The Year Without a summer a lot of the ones the people who
died from volcanoes died of starvation later because we couldn't grow the way
that we were used to Growing to sustain the population so those are the ones that we've talked about but let's round
it all out and talk about what would happen if Yellowstone super volcano um erupted you ready yes Yellowstone is in
Yellowstone National Park it's in Wyoming it it's in the Yellowstone Calera you remember where to Calera is I'm sure I've said this it is the top of
the cone yeah it's like the hole that's left after it falls yep so the yone
Caldera is 43 by 28 miles long so it's that's like the hole it's huge and
that's what Yello National Park is it's in the Calera dude that's like that like basically means that like the entire
United States is [ __ ] sitting on mag like lava like well everyone is yes oh
God that's even scarier you're right we all are M yeah we absolutely all are
that's that's the thing um there were three super eruptions in the last 2.1
million years from the Yellowstone volcano um it is actually the first
national park in the world and it was M national park by ulyses S Grant on March 1st
1872 so it's cool it is probably not
going to erupt in our lifetimes but stuff is happening and that's what you see in the news because in the news they'll be like oh it's like more of
this than it's ever been but like it's also just like the nature of nature things are going to change um but stuff
that they do know is that and this is actually kind of scary so well the whole thing's scary but like you were saying
that it makes you feel like you're on top of just like lava with lar which is like how they
measure the ground and you know they use that to like find dead bodies do you know what I'm talking about yeah they
that's how um self-driving cars drive is they use lar yeah so lar can tell that
the ground in Yellowstone is moving about three inches a year and it's sort of like a giant breathing under the
under the ground that's the bad of rising oh oh oh it's like
pulsing yeah Taylor there's this there's this one
picture of like the blast zone if are you going to talk about this no no I
don't know you tell me go ahead oh what will happen at the end yeah okay wait we'll talk bring that
up hold that hold that thought for later so um obviously people like love to talk
about it and have like and take that like three inch up and down like the the ground is like breathing from all the
magma moving around um and make like you know this BBC documentary and write
books about it and at one point in 2013 the Yellowstone um National Park put out
a release that said quote although fascinating the new finding ings do not imply increased geologic hazards of
Yellowstone and certainly do not increase the chances of a super eruption in the near they're [ __ ] lying to us sorry contrary to some media reports
Yellowstone is not quote overdue for a super eruption end quote so they're they're saying that we're not overdo but
that's what they always say in the news they're like it's GNA happen soon it's about time in this is a silly thing in
2017 NASA was had an idea to prevent the volcano from erupting by like cooling
parts of the mag magma chamber and by like introducing water at high pressure at 10 kilometers underground which would
cost about $ 3.46 billion do which sounds low it which cost way more than that um and someone at at JPL said uh no
that's probably going to trigger an eruption rather than prevent it yeah leave it alone leave it alone you know
like how like with like fracking there's like earthquakes in Oklahoma you're like stop it yeah [ __ ] stop [ __ ] with Earth
underneath ples that we live on so Yellowstone is also obviously famous for
the Geyers and the vents because it has like it's hot [ __ ] underneath the Yellowstone so there's like hot water
that that you know goes up people see that um the water's the stress is trying
to be released so right now it's a beautiful place to visit you can see those things don't go anywhere near them
um obviously like 20 something people have died in Yellowstone by like falling into the vents during Co a woman went in
park when it was closed and got severely burned cuz she fell when she was taking pictures like an idiot a man in 2016
died falling into an acidic mud pond so like a terrible way to go and
then 20121 a lady got seven days in jail for walking where she shouldn't walk it's very dangerous it's just like be
safe when you're there because they're is like super hot water under the ground because there's all that magma under the ground because it's a volcano one guy
from if you remember linat um in in
La well anyways that part doesn't matter but like there was a there was these two friends visiting Yellowstone um from
linat and one of them had a dog named moose and moose jumped into the water
and the guy jumped in after the dog no and I forgot what the temperature was
but it was like it was bad like his skin was his skin came off when they took his shoe
off it was really bad that happens at the beginning do you remember when like Dante's Peak and the other one came out
at the same time and like volcano volcano yeah yeah which one of them is the one where I should have watched those what is
wrong with me but which one is the one where the people in the beginning di in the in like the hot spring it get hotter
and hotter and they're like floating in it I feel like that was I so right now so I remember the Pierce broen one I
think that was Dante yeah okay so then it was probably that one wonder why I didn't watch this so weird okay it's
great one scene that's hilarious where like they get like a wooden canoe to go
across this water that's like super heated with lava and it like slowly
starts like falling lower lower in the water and cl it's like of course it would like burst in the Flames a second you put it in that water oh that's funny
um yeah those are fun that what a weird time in movie history so if you go to
Yellowstone the point is it's beautiful please be safe um but what would happen
if it did erupt and when someday Yellowstone will erupt again what will happen FEMA has a thing called hazes
that can predict things so can predict like big floods um big disasters so they
use the data what they think might happen and put it into into Haas this is for the BBC documentary so it was very
Sensational but um what will happen when Yellowstone does erupt so remember the
Yellowstone is two and a half thousand times bigger than Mount St Helens
so it's huge the whole Calera has lava underneath it it's most of the country like it's
crazy how big the impacts outside is yeah so there will be some zones of
zones of death like zones of [ __ ] happening there's um obviously the first one is going to be the you're drinking
the pyr clastic flow I'll just say it the pyroclastic flow is going to kill it's going to go according to its
prediction 100 km from the middle anyone who's outside
would die immediately and it will probably kill about 87,000 people
immediately yeah again because it's 43 by 28 miles it's
[ __ ] huge huge huge there will also be La Lars which are fast flowing mud
flows of debris that have volcanic ash and water so that's what we saw like on Mon Pelle when it like went down and
like destroyed those like houses and just like that cover them and they'll be in there forever so there'll be that hot mud will also get pushed out after the
pyroclastic flow then there'll be that ash cloud that's probably what also what you're seeing in that like picture that you're
seeing of the United States where it covers most of the US and just grows and grows and goes to Europe while it goes
around the world several times right not good um it will um the
first like a thousand miles in a circle around it will have the thickest it will be like six inches of Ash that will
break people's roofs so people will half a million people will die because their houses will be crushed by Ash and they
won't be able to breathe and that will happen next um the
power will go out Transportation will be gone water will be gone crops will be
gone so like people if they survive that they'll die of of starvation like right
after there will also be obviously a very very high amount of carbon dioxide
in the air it'll be in the stratosphere it will make everything worse there's a
place in Iceland where there was so much Florine which is like a gas that comes from volcanic eruptions um that mixes
with whatever is in the air right now causes acid rain and there's a place in Iceland where there was a volcano that
erupted and released a [ __ ] ton of Florine and the people who live there um since then are like deformed I that's
but because because there's so much of that gas in the air so it everybody who is left is [ __ ] because that's going
to be in the air it's going to be like really unhealthy to be anywhere there'll also be a volcanic gas plume that will
go into the atmosphere that will that's the thing that will go around with the with the gas it will do it will stop all
air travel obviously we won't be able to fly for years and years it will do
terrible things to our climate to our you know the food that we're growing people will die die of starvation all
over the world then I want to tell you something real quick there is this unbelievably fun story that I found um
that was on the documentary a British Airways flight nine that flew through a volcanic gas cloud I know what this is
It's a amazing St El fire yeah so the
guy okay have you heard of this exact story of these guys yeah yeah the engine shut down yeah they lost all four
engines but no one died they survived but the pilot who was interviewed in this BBC
documentary is delightful and he's like so yeah like the guy you know the engineer decided to ruin the day and be
like hey one of the engines just died then he was like oh the second one died then he was like oh we lost the lot so
they lost all four engines and Captain goes over the speakers and says ladies
and gentlemen this is your captain speaking we have a small problem all four engines have stopped we are doing
our damnest to get them going again I trust you are not in too much distress I know I remember that part that was
literally this part I was thinking about when you started talking about this oh my goodness what a delightfully British
thing to say they only they re they only regain power within like a thousand feet of impact right I think so like it was
like it's the they no no they were I'm just reading this C this really
fast but um it came back I don't know enough that they were able to land the
oxygen masks dro dropped um but as soon as they were out of the cloud the engines restarted that's just like
[ __ ] look you know and also looks crazy so there's a um uh an episode
of oh my God it's called seconds from disaster or something I forgot maybe whatever it's
like some airplane crash show I keep watching these things while I'm on planes and I need to stop doing that but like but it it it's called St Elmo car
it's like this crazy looking like it looks like a nuclear reactor is like turning on next your windows like the
whole thing just glows bright blue it's kind of wild wild wild um and yeah so
it's very exciting that that they um they the crew got a bunch of awards um
it was in the Guinness Book of World Records as the longest glide on a non-purpose built
aircraft and it's like since then like it's been other others have done more
than that which is also because of a bad thing but um I don't know super fun the captain is like so chill it's pretty
incredible but that will happen um so when it
happens we won't be here the way that we are right now somebody will be here
probably some humans in some way and so they will have to figure out how to survive on a planet that is like hotter
and or colder or more different air you know all the things that are going to we
have to adapt to it so there's two things that are that I've like my
suggestions are one we leave so we leave the Earth we've already left the earth when it happens you know or we just like
we're not here when when this [ __ ] goes down and the other thing that I hadn't thought of that was in the mass
extinction book is we might have to go underground and that would be how a
percentage of humanity could survive is if we went underground where it's cooler
especially if the Earth gets hotter or just like a place where we can control the temperature better than being above ground and that would be we' have to be
there for like thousands of years and then we would come back up once the Earth has like figured itself out i' I'd
rather just go just just I'll Stand I'll be like Woody harelson in that movie and just
stand yeah it's in 2012 he just stands there um yeah because if you look if you look
up what will happen if Yellowstone when Yellowstone erupts you'll see a map that shows just like the middle of America
exploding yeah yeah that's what I was looking at pushing out yeah it was it was I forgot what it was I'm not looking
at anymore but it was something like like 10 states were just covered in Ash
yeah and that Ash is going to kill you and it's going to destroy all your food and it's going to destroy all your water
and so you're like kind of you're almost you know if pyroclastic flow gets you at least hope
you know that last half a second no what you want what you want to be is in the
middle of it when it explodes you don't want to be a Survivor yeah you don't want to be a Survivor you want to be
like right there when it happens no and even if you're on the other side of the world you're still [ __ ] because it's
gonna [ __ ] the whole thing not good and it's happened before it'll happen
again and I feel like someday I just will I I was remembering when and I
interviewed that author about the the frier Diego who had burn on Lian books
and I asked him I was like you know do you think that the that our culture will
ever be something that is like a mystery you know it has to be excavated and I feel he said no he said he feels like
you know there'll be some things that we do now that he doesn't think people will do in the future like his example was like eating meat like people will look
at us and can't believe we did that which I think is totally fair but I also think that like what we have now will all be in ruin someday and I don't know
will someone be able to come and like try to figure out who we were or will it be like a in that 100,000 year history
that I can't imagine that you think would get boring you know what would we know about us right now well okay here's
here's Here's my thought so yeah so imagine like all the ways that human
life and experiences have been documented before in the past so you have like hieroglyphics you have extinct
languages you have um K paintings like all this different stuff right right and then we now only consume knowledge in
screens essentially for the most part right like all knowledge that is now
readily available and consumable is digital and on a screen
so in large part I think we've gone backwards and converted like books for
example into the format that is readily digestible but it it's impossible to think that we've done that with
everything that we've done before so like there's probably stuff that's been out there that is like no longer readily
accessible to the mass populace but what would happen if this format goes away
what if like neurolink is a real thing and you start transmitting things like
by osmosis through transitor transistors in your brain or whatever like I don't
know it could all change and then what happens with this entire body of [ __ ] after like six seven eight generations
of those changes happening like yeah someone might not even be able to find doom to fail in like a thousand years
like in a thousand years someone could probably go on Spotify and they won't even be able to see Doom to fail can you
imagine no I literally cannot imagine yeah exactly I feel like there's also I
mean I feel there's a chance that like it all goes away it's like I
remember reading something this is like a farfetch thing but something between the difference between like Sparta and Athens where like a Spartan was like
people are going to remember a because they built buildings and we built strong people and so there's like nothing left
with Sparta but we can see things in Athens cuz their stuff was like tangible and built out of stone and what we're
building now isn't like a tangible
thing it's like an internet not thing is this about do to fail again I feel like
I really I think this is actually very very on brand for what we're talking about because I think Community is [ __ ] no matter what you do and it's
can happen faster because of this or slower because of that but like there's no world where it's exactly like this
forever it's barely been like this dude I'm fine with it I really am I'm like I
I I [ __ ] like leave it to animals like I'm totally cool with that I'm G have kids so like I have nothing to live
for past myself I mean it doesn't matter because we live and we live as people in such a
short amount of that time anyway you know I know I like I'm I I'm about to
turn the knob on 40 and I'm like how the [ __ ] did that happen now Taylor I'll
look at myself in the mirror and now this thing right here I'm pointing to the center of my forehead which is
basically my head at this point CU I'm [ __ ] bald as [ __ ] like it's a persistent wrinkle that is always there
I was like a young little whipper snapper like three years ago what like I was 30 six it's over you're on the God
know slow March almost then it almost makes me feel like [ __ ] we'd be lucky to be here when you [ __ ] yell us from
exposed because that'd be the most exciting day again you'd be like Woody harlson you know what Taylor here's what
I do I would I would come grab you and Juan and we would we would we would hop in the car we'd go over to Yellowstone
would Crest the Caldera and then we'd take a bunch of edible gummies I'd bust out some bourbon we'll just sip on some
bourbon we'll share old stories with each other and then right when the thing explodes we'll
say [ __ ] Yeah and throw the hell Satan sign I love it yeah that's way you're
going down if we a 12h hour thing I don't know uh one thing you didn't
explain is most volcanoes form when the tectonic plates come together so how the [ __ ] did this one form the same way
there a tonic plate in the center of the country yeah the whole world is a tonic plate whole everything that's a good
question let me find how did yeah
expl eruptions thck flows blah blah blah how do yellow get created oh no that's about
the National Park oh 2.2 million years the Yellowstone Plateau has been shaped by
explosive eruptions um thick lava flows yeah I think that the answer to
that is goes back to like the fact that continents are constantly changing and
like the way they are now will not be the way they always are going to be and so maybe at some point they like smash
together to create it and then right because because we see a lot of them on like the islands because it's the ocean
one is lighter and the land one is heavier so or opposite ocean one's heavier and
the land one's lighter so it's like causing that but then like I'm making a whoosh you know but but um that's what I
think sweet isn't everything a volcano know I have to St God we we we got thank
God we're ending this series on this like we have to end this series
that everything's volcano I'm so exit for my book to come out everything's a volcano by Taylor P um I the Volcano by
Taylor P I love this this is great that was fun you heard it here first I am I took one class that like I it's funny
because like the instructor was such a [ __ ] hippie he like just like he wore Crocs everywhere just like I can't do
this guy seriously but like he made us read this one book which I obviously didn't read it was called Gaia and Gaia
is kind of this concept that Earth is a living organism that does its own thing it acts like a living organism and you
know I picked up the cliff notes enough to be like oh that's a philosophy I can get behind like you know like the Earth
is like it's like shedding it's like shedding it's like us right I mean we're constantly shedding skins cells like
there's organisms that the Earth doesn't want and they'll just find ways to shed them and like I don't know it was like
yeah makes sense makes sense it's a living organism I get it at least it acts like one I definitely can picture you
literally buying the cliffnotes book like the yellow one yeah yeah the guy the guy would like
call on me and I would literally like just like talk and be like I'm just going to say enough stuff to sound so
confused that he's going to have pity on me like he just didn't understand the material it's not that he didn't read it
I would just like start talking and be like okay like can I stop now well okay I like this like I'm
reading about Gaia I don't know I'm like is it bad I'm looking up I'm like how where does get crazy but I do like the I
do agree with like this carbon cycle and CO2 because that's what happens with with these volcanoes and big things like
if there's like less it's colder if there's more it's hotter like all those things that you know happen and they happen because humans are putting into
the air because we're burning all these fossil fuels or it's happening because of volcanoes or happens because of an asate impact like all those
things yeah I mean it's a it's I mean there's I don't know how it could ever be controversial this Theory but I mean
it's a but I'm just making sure it's not but you know if you ever get into that like space where you're like thinking
about the Earth and then you think about the universe and think about everything and that you just like feel like yourself pulling back and you just like
are gonna have arack and then you say on a podcast then you say on a podcast that everything's
volcanoes I think that's I think that's what we're getting oh my face is hot uh
was fun that was fun it was so fun I'm so glad that we know all this stuff about
them the world it's pretty fun Taylor our first series just wrapped was just
fun where you go very fun thank you very excited um do we have any listener email
that is real or fake that has to do with me or my gas situation um no oh but I did actually F
in in the middle of this episode you like pull your headphone off and like rubbed it and that kind of sounded like that could have been a
fart like I don't I know it wasn't but like maybe that was the sound people heard in the beginning or maybe if they heard during this episode maybe that was
it guys again I know that I'm recording and it's like why would I ever record
myself audibly farting like there's got to be another explanation I get talking about that yeah but I'm saying that
might have been the culprit yep fair enough so um I also like that we like
talk about it as though like everybody's listening to our podcast in sequential order as so like it s like I'm going to listen to one episode and that's it so
nobody has any idea just re-released so you know um no um I thank you everybody
who's listening Agnes my friend Agnes the Tulip mania one that we just re-released was our favorite episode so
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volcanoes just if you know anything about volcanoes email us and then I know we asked other question in the middle of this
episode we did we did what was the question um because I made a j any any scientists
and phds that listen to our show to write in uh if you put this in your in your bibliography for your your PhD and
vulcanism let us know we will also serve as um proof readers if you want us to
read your do dissertation they called the doctor things is the dissertation yeah
I'll read your dissertation I can barely [ __ ] read I literally just told you I readed cliff notes and just get my way through something but still send it over
to us but you'll copy paste in chbt and say rewrite this for me if it was a kindergarten there you go um sweet well
Taylor thank you very much um we can go ahead and cut things off if if there's other El to report thank you all
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