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Ep 84 - City of Darkness: Exploring Kowloon Walled City

Episode Summary

Let's explore one of the most densely populated places on the planet - Kowloon Walled City in Hong Kong. For three decades, people constructed a tightly-packed, overcrowded residential complex in Hong Kong. Discover the intriguing story behind this unique experiment in human habitation!

Episode Notes

Let's explore one of the most densely populated places on the planet - Kowloon Walled City in Hong Kong. For three decades, people constructed a tightly-packed, overcrowded residential complex in Hong Kong. Discover the intriguing story behind this unique experiment in human habitation!

Sources:

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/kowloon-walled-city

Episode Transcription

Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor

[Music] in a matter of the people of the State of California versus orthal James Simpson case number ba09 and so my

fellow Americans ask not what your country can

do for you ask what you can do for your country and we are here we are alive we

are active and we are discussing Sports

softballs um we are going to um watch it at home in our house that's

such a good way to do it I kind of want to do that but then I'm kind of like uh I'm always at home and like during the

week especially I work at home and I just stay home and really the only time I get out of the house is to walk Luna

and I was like just go out like every get the social experimentation of being

there and watching a football game out of your system um and so yeah I'm I'm going to keep lowkey go there have have

a beer or two and then and then call the night but look at forward to it yeah I got I'm thirsty and it's a Super Bowl

Sunday so I'm drinking a Bud Light [ __ ] yeah do it sometimes you're like I'm just thirsty for a Bud Light it's like

water and delicious and it's F I've I've literally never said that in my entire life I'm an IPA guy defitely like I been

like should I have water or should I bed light and I'll have a bed light which is

terrible yeah I mean it's it's the beer that like it's that it's well you know what actually I will say this and I

think we actually talked about this on podcast I had a lot of Cs like actual real CS not Coors Light when I was in

Denver like earlier last year and I was like this is great beer it's called Kors banquet it was like this is actually

really good beer and I stand by that you know what now I'm in the mood for some Kors banquet so that's what I'm going to do today I love it um welcome to Doom to

fail the podcast where we Have No Agenda and no premise whatsoever we just like to talk and present new things to each

other as friends and have banter around it that's my new I love it um am I going

first today I don't know we're off we're off off whatever you want to do I'll go first going first it's probably better

anyways because I'm expecting the dogs to start barking like an hour from now and by my by that point my session will be over and I can mute myself while

you're talking perfect see you Taylor I am gonna cover a topic because I know

that you are huge jeanclaude vanam like super fan and oh my God you have no idea

the topic of today was in the Cinematic Masterpiece known as Blood Sport it's actually where the

Kum took place you remember any of this no did you watch did you watch flood

sport no I feel like I haven't seen many jeanclaude van movies not for any reason

I I I I am pretty sure he's delightful he's not like Stephen Seagal who's like

actually a bad guy right he's like just kind of BL step Seagal is such a piece of

[ __ ] he is like an objective traitor to the United States and like he is a horrible horrible human being um and

everything about his past indicates he's also a fake martial artist whereas John CLA vanam is a real martial artist but

the long story short is his character is this guy who has to go to Japan and or

China or I don't know where he's going he's going somewhere whatever some Asian country and he has to fight in this

underground fight to the death and they use this one city as the location of

where this fight happens the reason they use this city is because it's scary as [ __ ] and it looks like hell on Earth and

and and I actually rewatched um that part of Blood Sport as I do my research I was like oh my God I can't believe I

totally recognize this city I'm going to be talking about a city that is known colloquially as either the city of Darkness or the city of Anarchy or by

its formal name callon Walt City do you know the city uhuh okay look it look it

up first and foremost and but let's not talk about how it looks just look it up have it pulled up it's spelled k w loon

l o n Alon W City in Hong Kong Hong Kong yes

oh whoa okay we're I have sections broken out here I'm going to get to the appearance like in like two minutes and

we're going to go through this real quick so if if you look this up you'll notice that it is just like a crazy hodg

Podge mass of like buildings like it doesn't even look like it it looks insane and the reason it looks the

way it looks is that Calhoun City has a distinction of being the most densely

packed City in the history of the world and I'm going to just go out there and

say something that people are going to be offended by I [ __ ] hate New York City because it is so densely packed

there's people crawling everywhere they're like walking on top of you I don't know how people live in New York like I get it cool it's vibrant whatever

so on and so forth but I I think that most people when they think of a densely pack City probably think of New York

City fair well yes and it's not for everyone so fine you don't have to like

it um I would live in New York if if I didn't have a family for sure but

also yeah this is like New York City Times 700 bajillion okay I'll give you

the exact number of it actually okay okay so so New York City's population

density is 70,000 people per square mile and that I I did a lot of backwards math

and like I'm really bad at math so like I'm probably wrong about like the backwards math I did but I think that

comes to three act the population density of Los Angeles so I'm just giving like people like an East Coast West Coast comparison like what

population density kind of looks like because it's hard to think about it it's like when someone has a million gallons

like what does a million gallons look like I don't even know um no that totally makes sense I yeah I mean because like in there's no houses in New

York City yeah yeah exactly so 70,000 per square mile in New York City cin

Wald city has a population density that if it was up to a square mile would be 3.2 million people per square mile oh my

God crazy dense crazy dense luckily it's not it's about 6.4 Acres it's roughly

the size of a city block and so the population was estimated to be somewhere in the range of 33,000 to 50,000 people

in one city block crazy right that's crazy so let's start talking about the

appearance real quick I have a whole stick on this but I'm gonna let you I'm gonna defer to you what do you think I

mean it looks like like okay like you know in Las Vegas when at the New York New York casino you know how seen that

no for everyone else in Las Vegas the New York New York is like the New York City skyline kind of but it's like not

separate buildings it's like all one building they just have the facade look like it's separate buildings you know it

like kind of reminds me of that because it's looks like a bunch of buildings just as pushed together as humanly

possible oh that's good that's a great example yeah okay I'm looking at it now yeah yeah yeah that's um that's pretty

accurate like what's the B what's the bit giving you um well I'm very stressed

out that something bad's gonna happen because I mean it's just so dense it's

also very it's like low it doesn't look like it's very high but dense and I feel like think you're going to talk about

this can you like live inside of it and never see the sun yeah God getting forehead

the vast vast vast vast majority of the people that lived in cin City would not see the sun unless they would venture

out of cin City into actual Hong Kong um but yeah those are great examples I also

heard one that was really great I was listening to a podcast on do you know 99% invisible it's like one my favorite

okay love those guys and um one of the guys was talking about C City and he said it reminded him of a BG Cube from

Star Trek which I have no idea what that is but I looked it up and I was like dude that guy nailed it like he

absolutely nailed it it looks like a board Cube if anybody knows what that is from Star Trek that's exactly what it looks like um so I'm GNA describe it a

little bit both in terms of its appearance and like some of the details statistics about it so if you look at it from the top down what you'll

essentially see is roughly 300 buildings of varying sizes and shapes kind of packed in together and it kind of has a

Tetris look to it because they all kind of again there's like really little spacing in between the buildings there's

a very small sliver in the middle that looks like a courtyard it kind of reminds me of like like Central Park

almost but like on a very different scale basically yeah so one thing I

thought when I looked at it from the side was it looks kind of organic so it doesn't look like it was built in one

day those think it was built in like many days yeah yeah exactly and and I learned that there's like an

yeah exactly there's like a version of architecture called like organic architecture where like you just let

people do what they're going to do on regulated and like sometimes it works out like in this

case it kind of worked out I guess um but this is like a version of that kind of organic architecture because none of

it was planned or built by professionals the buildings go ahead sorry I'm sorry was blood sport filmed

in there or like meant to look like it was in there or was it really filmed in there it was so it was filmed in there there's a scene at the very beginning

where they're showing Jean Cloud vanam where he's going to be fighting and they take him into callon City and they're

walking around the interior like the Alleyways of callon city and that is legitimately it like they actually

filmed it in callon city but the I it was all done on a Sound Stage like the actual fighting space was a Sound Stage

cool yeah um I feel like that's like the archetype for all of those spaces that like you see in those movies where people are like fighting yeah you know

it's like crowded and there's a fight like it happened in like Jurassic the last Jurassic Park it happened in what we do in the shadows there's always like

a underground place people are fighting and it's like very dense so I feel like that maybe I don't know if that like stereotype comes from Blood Sport before

that but that's like what I feel like it's I think it was always kind of like that because it was it was like that in

like the original Mortal Kombat games it was like that in they did Street Fighter um Magna that was um set there like it's

it's kind of there's actually a ton of um content that was created around Calin

City that I'll get it to size Blood Sport Blood Sport was like the biggest one that stood out to me totally um so

the height of the buildings all Vari but the max height that any of the buildings could be was 14 stories tall and the

reason for that was because it was on the flight path for what's called kitech airport which is one of the airports in

Hong Kong it's like a like a 10-minute walk from cin city was super super

close like the one thing I noticed was that the units and people if you look

this sub you'll see it and actually Taylor what I want to send you is a link to this incredible um photography that

was done in C City and I hope you can post that but the long story short of it

is that if you look at it straight on you'll notice that like parts of it jut out further than other parts of it this

is all buy a product that people trying to increase their living space again none of this was planned so like people just like latch on things to the side of

it and try and expand its um expand its um uh living living area so I'm going to

go a bit into the creation of city which means also going into the history of the

UK China Hong Kong Japan America the atomic bomb like it is

a super complicated it is super complicated it's like if you're like an actual historian who understands this

stuff like write to us and let me know yeah like let us know which detail here I'm

not pointing to that I should be pointing to because I started going into this I was like this history is so dense and Rich it it it's I'm sure I'm not

going to do it justice but let's get into it real quick so again this this is all based in Hong

Kong C City itself is based in Hong Kong so the long story short of it is that the Chinese government built a walled

fort in c as a military Outpost in 1847 the parameters of that Fort are

essentially what you're looking at when you look at pictures of C City now like that is essentially yet okay as a

byproduct of the first and second Opium War which is as far as I can ascertain

was Britain sending opium from India through

China in China was like we don't want you to do this and I'm getting into a fight over this so I remember when um my

Grandma had cancer in the 90s I gave for opium for her pain and she had to like

sign saying that she wouldn't sell it that was the first time I'd ever heard of opium I mean I think I mean we do that now with valume and like oxycotton

and like hyodo and stuff so um but basically as a result of this War what ended up happening was UK was granted a

99-year lease to the territory of Hong Kong which also included cin City in

1898 tayl I feel like you know more about this stuff than I do I don't know a lot about it but then but I like that

makes sense because I remember when Hong Kong went independent in in the 90s

right right that's that was when that expired and we were alive for that exactly exactly yep yep great um heading

into the early to mid 1900s Chinese nationalists were in a position to try

to retake the territory from the UK and they would fight skirmishes occasionally but never really escalated too much

Beyond these little skirmishes mostly because another little war broke out between Japan and China in

1937 so this is all I mean look the timelines I'm throwing out the people the the countries I'm throwing out we

all know where this kind of building up to so Japan occupied the territory and

destroyed everything at kalon City in Kon except for what's called a Yaman

Yaman which is basically like a Administrative Building it's like a one story Administrative Building and this

will come in later so uh that was an original original piece of architecture

that was there since it was established in 18477 and that's the only thing that actually remained After Japan kind of

started occupying the region much to the joy of one-third of

China's population and that was controlled by Japan at the time uh what

ended up happening to get them out of Hong Kong and China was the dropping of the atomic bomb it was the unconditional

surrender of Japan that was basically it and like this is a part that's crazy like I'm like how did I not know this

stuff like all of the stuff we learned about Unit 731 and what Japan did to the Chinese like that those were all people

taken out of this territory during this time and sent to be experimented on in

Japan crazy so that's basically it so like Japan had territorial control over all

this and then you know they the unconditional surrender Japan happen in 1945 uh and yeah so China was like great

like now we can move on with our lives and and do whatever we do but then a civil war broke out in China again this

history is crazy thick so tell me what I'm going wrong a civil war broke out as

this happened which which usually happens when a country's been occupied or Something's Happened people have like a lack of trust leaders and so what

happened was because parts of China were in Civil War and civil unrest a lot of folks were displaced

they were displaced anyways because their homes were destroyed when when they were being occupied they they also destroyed by their own countrymen and so

what happened was there was a flood of people that rushed into cun into specifically this part of cun because it

was relatively peaceful during the Civil War and people just trying to escape and get away from everything was going on so

so at that point 1947 is kind of picked as like the date that the population in

caloon city started kind of expanding and at that time point in time it was about 2,000 people were were staying in

this ter in this region so again like the way that a city like

this comes into being so crazy so essentially what happened is that the UK had a leas this

territory and they could have done a lot with it but this was right after World

War II and they were like their cities were destroyed they're like we got we got problems at home like we can't

really do anything here so I I wrote here that like China had a geographic interest to the region given its

proximity to its formal borders but they had no legal jurisdiction to it Britain had legal jurisdiction but they had no

Geographic or economic interest in it so it created this like perfect like I

don't know Purgatory for a place like this city to kind of pop

up from that original 2000 people more and more people started flooding into

the region and its population kind of hit it stride in the 1960s and 70s and then that's like when you see pictures

of it like that's usually like the 70s 80s is when it really like started turning into what it looks like right

now so I'm going to go into the life of somebody that lives in callon city

so there was basically like a patchwork of alleys that were intertwined between

the 300 or so buildings around the city and above that were electrical wires and

piping for Wastewater all over it and actually if you watch that scene in Blood Sport I mentioned earlier like you

can just like Google callon City Blood Sport like it is it's like it's bro it

is true it is actually accurate in broad daylight if you walk outside in cun City on the Alleyways you would never see the

sun the someone never penet deep enough wow some reports mention that the

mun ipity like provided fresh water to the area and that others other times um

folks would dig their own Wells and pull up groundwater uh but I did read some reports of residents that said that

there was no water so I assume that what they mean when they say that we're in M the municipality we water they probably

handed the ground level and you have to like go downstairs and get it like right that's what I was thinking they probably have like a pump and you get a bucket

you don't have like water in your house in your apartment right exactly um so

there was no trash service in the city so residents would just essentially dump their trash wherever anybody else was

dumping their trash Oh my God most of the time that was just in like corners of Alleyways or a lot of times it was

also the rooftop that would dump a lot of trash and one thing I read was it was possible to walk the entire all the

Alleyways at callon city and never touch the ground because you're only walking on trash it's kind of wild yeah that

sounds awful yeah I listened to this one mailman that was interviewed on YouTube and who worked cin City and he was like

the rats were the size of cats and because there was such a huge drug

problem there and so much opium and heroin passing through that they were like feing feing too like they were like

rats heroin oh God yeah yeah yeah so the Central Court area it was

like mostly clean by the standards of hygiene that were being exercised here essentially and that was largely where

kids would go to play it was like a community Gathering area it was also referred to as like the senior citizens

living area so like the older people would go there because it was on the ground level and that's where that Yemen

or whatever it's called that I mentioned that the Japanese left when they destroyed everything else there that's

that's where they were like that's where they stay that this one Administrative Building feels like the one building is all built like around it yeah yeah

exactly um look like they have a McDonald's that's wait seriously well it

looks like I see a cing cowon city road sign next to McDonald's sign so at least or it's like real close okay yeah could

be um the other thing to note again because the planes were flying into

kitech airport uh this is like some crazy imagery that you're going to pull up when you start googling this but a lot

of times the kids will just play on the rooftops if they weren't playing in the courtyard they'd be playing on the rooftops so there's pictures of kids on

the rooftops it is it looks like it is just made for people to die on because there's like TV antennas and wires

Crossing everywhere and then you'd see like a jumbo 747 like right next to the

kid playing it's crazy the view some of these pictures I saw oh I see it wow

yeah uh individual units were pretty small I guess like I don't even have to say that um in aggregate the average

that it totaled out to was the living space per resident came out to 40 square feet per person four context again just

so we have a frame of reference the American Correctional Association mandates that minimum sales sizes for us

prisoners have to be 70 square feet so almost twice would these people are living in wow is that

nuts and obviously the reason people would go here was money right it was

rent and so the average price of rent um adjusted for what the price was back

then for what we are where we are today the inflation whatever you know what I'm saying um four and a half cents USD per

month to rent the space so that was the track that was a draw so obviously this kind of living

situation attracts all kind of people so prostitution drug selling drug use any kind ofice you can imagine they were all

kind of there in presentent here and because of this like opaque jurisdictional land that this place

existed on there wasn't really law enforcement either so yeah so what ended up happening is really the people that

ran callon City were the Triad which is a Hong Kong Chinese gang um that I

looked up it's like they're active essentially everywhere which is kind of crazy but they were essentially the ones who were doing enforcement like some of

was like cutesy stuff like they would organize like people to like pick up trash on certain days and like they

would do some sort of community stuff but they were also the primary Distributors of drugs prostitutes and

running opium de happen in like in South America in like a Jail recently where

like the prisoners took over and they like had a zoo and like all the like and like people were like like living there

and they made it into like little town it was like run by them but it was like know that you know run by the gang but they like did like cute things like a

zoo and also were like running drugs you know I mean yeah I guess leave people with their own devices they'll find

they'll find cute ways to deal with stuff I guess even if they're also doing bad things exactly yeah so I so I looked

at like how pretty much like any report you look at read about this thing just basically talks about this the crime and

the squala that people lived in and there's like no diminishing that that is absolutely fact like just look at the

thing you know exactly what you're getting into it's funny one of the one of the that mailman guy who talked about

the giant rats He also mentioned again like there was a mailman

that would literally deliver mail every single day to every single tenant inside this insane Maze of buildings and

whatever all these Alleyways one thing he mentioned was when you're in the thick of it when you're in the middle of

middle of like the alleys between like several buildings that are being connected you lose all sense of like cardinal directions or where you are of

course yeah and so what he mentioned is that you don't base anything off your frame of reference on your eyes you base

it on what you smell he's like when I started smelling like the the fishball smelling I knew that that is Mr of so

and so and he's on this block and so I need to take a right here like that's how you would get around that's yeah

that makes sense if you don't if you can't see anything yeah you any direction yeah and so I listened to uh

this one episode of a it's a YouTube channel that highlights Asian culture

and Cuisine it's called gold thread and what they had was they actually brought a resident a former resident of C City

who lived there in their 70s his name is Albert Ing and they long story short is

like there's a new game that came out called stray it's basically about a stray cat and the stray cat has caught in this underground dystopian universe

and he has trying that's that's a video game that's it but what what it was based on is C City they did they did all

the mappings on C City so they brought this guy on and was like Hey can you play this game and tell us what it looks like and whether it's actually like you

know accurate to your interpretation of it and so way yeah yeah and so he did it

and you know long story short is that like 50/50 part of it's accurate part of it's not not a big deal but his biggest

thing was that he would talk about the the squalor and stuff but he was also like we had this like sense of

togetherness which like also I think like like that's the draw for like a New York City is like the electricity of

like being around people brings out more in individuals and I think that's what I've gotten out of it when I've been there and so I think that's what he got

of it too um he would mention that he was very happy with his life there with

he lived in he lived there with his mom and his sister um but he also said spoiler alert uh this thing gets

destroyed um yeah you you've been saying calling it talking about it in past CH so there you go yeah um but also

mentioned that when he was demolished he was like super happy that it was demolished and it reminded me of like weirdly enough which like says a lot

more about me than anything else remind me of Ed G about how when that house his mom's house was destroyed how he was

like oh well just just as well like it's like knowing that you're attached to something but you can't let it go but

you know you probably should let it go like that's kind of the vi and once it's gone you're like good yeah I don't have

to worry about that anymore yeah exactly exactly um in addition to kind of like

the Cherie that people felt there was also a ton of economic activity Beyond just like brothel and stuff like that uh

the first five fours of any of the buildings were typically used for Commerce or doing things so people were

making and selling food things like fishballs dim some uh there was metal fabrication welders operating there's

unlicensed dentists and doctors that had the practices there one I hate everything about an unlicensed dentist

but what's funny is like they most reports harp on how many unlicensed

dentist were like nobody knows why there was such a huge volume of unlicensed s there but like it wasn't like a couple

like it seemed like there was a ton there I don't know anything about Healthcare in in Hong Kong or whatever

but um and you know I just I think when I think of a back allei dentist I get afraid not good or strip ball dentist

yeah um strip dentist dentist is a strip ball

good point I shouldn't talk [ __ ] um I retract my statement St M dentist um one

story I read had to do with the fact that the smell was just so so horrible so apparently what they would what they

would do is because people were so afraid of like food contamination because things were so dirty there is

they would kill the animals like there on on site in front of their customers so the other part of that for example

they're going to kill a pig in front of a bunch of people to show that this thing that was alive in the food I'm going to serve he actually not spoiled

is they blow torch the flesh so all the hair would just burn and singe off so the entire just WFT with the smell

sounds awful oh my God I mean that that's smart as clean as it's going to get cuz

I kill right here but also that's gross and it sounds like it would make the whole place smell disgusting burnt hair

smells terrible but then also might smell kind of delicious cuz like doesn't isn't a burn pain

delicious sorry pigs they're smart animals Taylor we can't keep eating these things um I know

I do like bacon um no it's it's smart it it does make sense the grand scheme of like where they are um do it this way

but it just I just keep go it's just like smell and like the site is just

like so much um so in 1984 Britain and

China signed uh the Sino British joint declaration in anticipation of the hand

over you mentioned earlier of the territory back to China which was scheduled to happen on 1997 it was about three years later so

1987 is when the governments of both countries announced that they had plans

to demolish C City they were basically like Japan China didn't want it and like

and Britain couldn't regulate it so they're like yeah just like we'll just like sorry we let this happen on our watch and we're handing this thing over

to you and you don't want it and you can't handle it so let's just like both agree that we're going to split the cost

demolishing this and part of splitting that cost was them providing

compensations of the tune of 350 million people to leave their homes and go elsewhere um which is good and most

people did but some of them had to be forcibly evicted and demolish demolition

began in March of 1993 it concluded in April of 1994 uh in its place Hong Kong put put a

park in which is now known as the callon Wald City Park what I mentioned earlier that Yaman thing in the central

Courtyard that ended up becoming the old folks home uh that's still there so that that is the original one that was there

from when the thing was built in 1847 even when it was a fort it had um two cannons and back there's pictures of

when the city was actually like in its Heyday and the Cannons were like on the ground they're like kind of like covered

with [ __ ] and they were restored they were restored and now the the two original cannons Were Meant to protect

the original Fort and this original building are there and have been restored so um that's cool yeah yeah and

that's kind of where things are and I never heard of the city before I came

across it accidentally and was like this is crazy that is crazy um it sounds I

mean it sounds really scary and like I'm sure people died there but like man

they're lucky they didn't have a fire that killed everyone right like they have a couple of those they did they did

have a fire there um and it was It was kind of in the earlier days before it's what you look what you can see now and

so luckily like down Aon of people were hurt or killed but the bigger concern was they were like this thing was built

by just people it could collapse under this weight and fall into Hong Kong and

kill everybody there like there was a huge safety hazard there so yeah it it feels I don't know

like part of me was was like man like if you got like a bunch of like homeless people together like and gave them some

resources and like just go nuts like maybe they would also like pop up like a callon city and it would be its own thing but I don't know people people

probably shouldn't live that way but it's good that to know that they had an option in the middle of a Civil War and

like occupation yeah I'm sure like people were upset to leave because they

like all our stuff was there like yeah so uh we will definitely post pictures

of this because it is it is a sight to behold and um for any jvdm fan

wait JC jcvd jcvd fans thank you um check out

blood sport it's did he really do that thing where he did the splits between those two trucks oh I don't know well so he he

does that he does that in all of his movies and he does that in Blood Sport a lot um and I think that's why they they

did that commercial that way but it's it's it's such a stupid movie like you watch it now as an adult and you're like

this was the coolest thing I saw when I was like 11 years old and now I'm like what was wrong with me that's really

funny I love that that's cute um yeah that's crazy I feel like maybe now that I've seen pictures of it before but like

yeah hearing about it is it's nuts that's cool that they built it and Liv

there kind of like self- sustained you know the the thing that kind of blew my mind was I was like I was like okay I

know that the US was at war with Japan I just totally and I knew about Unit 731 I

just totally didn't equate the two and I know there's like stuff that like I

thought of doing that like just all of the stuff that happened in China during like before World War II um like the the

rape of man king and those things um that I don't know enough about and and I

and I want to know more about so I mean that's why I didn't want to go into the Weeds on that because I was just like

there's probably so many things like going back thousands of years like I've

you know I have no context for so I know I'll go we'll go I I'll I'll I'll look

at it or if you're a japanesechinese

Soo Japanese um yeah Stan Lindsay yeah like let us give us your take on it

sounds crazy yeah super Co um so yeah that's my Storyteller anything to discuss before we transition out um I

got a lot of positive reinforcement because posted that I bought go ship and watched it again and people were excited

and I was talking to one of our uh our friends on Instagram and um he sent me the YouTube video for the song at the

end of goost ship that like metal song that happens at the end yeah and it's great it's just like

it's very 2000 metal I love it I it's

everybody has to go teas and like there's like a ball guy he's like both kind of scary you know it's cute it was when they were loading the time yeah it

was they were loading the next batch of gold into the next ship yeah and you see the guy and it's like you're like oh no

he's gonna do it again he's like kind of a demon I think what was his name the fairy men is that what they call him the

fairy man I don't know I'm gonna watch it again okay I'll let you know I'll

watch it a thousand more times it's so good please please um sweet yeah I'm

also looking for ideas I feel like sometimes I feel like I have a thousand ideas sometimes I'm like I don't have any and so if you have any ideas um

please let us know please email us or message us on Instagram we'd love to hear um love to hear from you I had one

last night in my head and then I lost it and I'm so mad I just can't remember what it was I probably have already thought of it again but like I was like

yes and then I was like let's go so I know what I do is I will um I have a

file and I just like write down like whereever idea Pops in my head um there's some that like have come and

gone because there's some that like I'll start looking into and like this is not more than like seven minutes of content

yeah yeah yeah totally totally and then I have like because I have a bunch of stuff planned um and yeah all the things

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cut this off now and rejoin you on Wednesday thanks Tor another make another Bud Light for Wednesday got a

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