Doomed to Fail

Ep 87 - Crossing Putin - Sudden Russian Death Syndrome

Episode Summary

Fingers crossed, Farz survives the year with the stories he's telling us! Today, he walks through the 'mysterious' deaths of Alexei Navalny, Alexander Litvinenko, and Yevgeny Prigozhin—three men who dared to question the work of Russia's current Tzar-in-training, Vladimir Putin. You know us, and you know we love Russian history - so we're on our way to try to understand the why behind what Russia is currently doing.

Episode Notes

Fingers crossed, Farz survives the year with the stories he's telling us! Today, he walks through the 'mysterious' deaths of Alexei Navalny, Alexander Litvinenko, and Yevgeny Prigozhin—three men who dared to question the work of Russia's current Tzar-in-training, Vladimir Putin. You know us, and you know we love Russian history - so we're on our way to try to understand the why behind what Russia is currently doing. 

Episode Transcription

Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor

 

in a matter of the people of the State of California versus orthal James Simpson case number ba09 and so my

fellow Americans ask not what your country can

do for you ask what you can do for your country okay and we're back on to the

fars side of our story um and Taylor I hate to disappoint you this is going to

be kind of a quick one but we're both it's late and we're tired so I want to tell you something first when

during our 10-minute break when I went before I went to read the kids story um I came back and you weren't here but

miles my son had put my headphones on and he goes D do do hi Uncle fars I'm G

to talk about volcanoes and I was like are you I me and he was like yes I wish I had recorded that that

could have been our next intro we switch about volcanoes oh my

God Taylor I love the idea of like miles doing the intro in like some mocking hilarious way so

funny that was awesome but you can do the intro now oh yeah Doom to fail welcome to Doom to fail I'm fars this

Taylor we are here we're recording this is coming out on Wednesday it is barely late for us to be recording

and we are going to we have we're maintaining our energy though we're doing good maintaining our energy I feel like we're our yeah energy levels are

normal they're up and it's not a normal Sunday you have do you have tomorrow off I don't have any days off well

tomorrow's holiday not for me for the rest of America so for the rest of

America so actually yeah really good point there um so I'm gonna dive into my

top like I said it's gonna be kind of a quick one I'll explain why it's GNA be a quick one as I get into this so Taylor I'm gonna have you guess what my subject

is okay who is the one person on

Earth nobody on Earth should ever [ __ ] with

Putin Bing but I'm actually not covering Putin okay but I'm covering the people

that did what I just said you shouldn't do to Putin because I realized that if I were to try and cover Putin's

life I mean that would be a seven-part series on its own iist I did listen to a biography about him um and I bought

something that I have in the other room otherwise I would show you but I have this book that's like a thesis like

business school thesis that um people think that Putin read and like

plagiarized when he went to school I can believe I kind of like get an idea of like what he was like so what what do

you think of the guy think out his [ __ ] mind okay like yeah out of his

mind uh like so there's so the conclusion of the book that I read that I can find about him I read like a a

biography of him was that like he is not someone who can be reasoned with because he is thinking about things in a way

that like there's no way he's wrong and he has this thing which he did this week or last week when he met with Tucker Carlson he like wants to talk about the

history of Russia in this way he lives a life like he might as well be an alien he lives a life that's like so different than everybody else's and he believes

what he believes so fiercely that like you can't you could never reason with him okay it's like just totally

different here's the thing I'm not going to actually cover the man himself so your perspective since you already know

a lot would be really useful does he like so many narratives around

him has to he wants to bring Russia back to a place of like superiority but he

believes in like ethnic kind of Purity so like he believes in a weird way like not the normal way like he believes like

Slavs should be with Slavs so Ukraine shouldn't be its own country should be it's a slav country so it should be with

Russia or like it's like a weird ethnic mishmash of imperialism like what is

like the fundamental belief structure that you think this guy operates on well I think that you're right it's like

Russian superiority and it's wanting to go back to a time of like this happens

again and again and again with people like these like dictators who are like selling the story of going back to a

past that is perfect that never really existed you know so they're like I want

to go back to like cath the he like loves cathine the great when back to cathine the great time when like everyone was Russian and all these

things but you're like also Catherine the Great was like recognized that Russia is very ethnically diverse you

know and like she would travel around meet people of different religions and like all these things but like in his

head it's like he has this idea of when it was perfect my computer just like did a weird flash do you think that we're being recorded now by the

Russians or the CIA oh my God someone is recoring US H um but not

just you not just me no um yeah so I think I mean gosh I read a couple years

ago but I feel like that was like the big thing was like you know he he has this idea in his head of this mythical past that never really existed but he's

like want to go back to this like Perfection and you also cannot reason with him because he doesn't he thinks

differently like not in like a good way but he just like he's not someone who will ever understand your like other

people's views so my take after like having done

the research on the things he's done not himself is like given how divided America is and

given how big and powerful Russia is like I could totally see this guy like I

could totally see like your grandkids one day like worshiping at like a statue

in the middle of like New York square Time Square to like about Vladimir Putin like he he seems like crazy calculated

and like we're so divided and like he has

such strong sorry that was not meant to be offensive it's like your kid like that was more like our gener like a

generation from now I can see him having taken over the entire world because like he's so crazy calculated his timing is

so devious and he like and he got that way so like he was like in the government

for a long time like and remember like his um he he's like the second child in

his family and his brother had died when singr was under siege and there was no

food like during World War II and so he he had like lived this like really weird life like we have to stockpile things

and we have to like we cannot starve to death so like Russia has tons of food stockpiled and like one point he was in charge of like doing it he like royally

[ __ ] it up and then like learned from it and moved on so he also has no like that he just is gonna keep going you

know yeah yeah yeah he he's he seems like a really interesting like character he seems very

very scary like I'm of any world leader I think like he's

probably the scariest yeah so so at first what I was going to do was I was

going to cover people who had crossed Putin and I was going to cover like what

they did how they crossed him what happened to them and so I started digging into it and I was like okay I

found like 12 people or so that were

of that are listed any major media publication on people who have Pros and being killed for it and then I

discovered a thing called sudden Russian death syndrome which is like literally

it's like all in caps like it's a real phrase which is the name given by the media of just all these Russian people

oligarchs and billionaires basically not like traditional like media people they

get killed more or political opposition get killed but like people probably knew a lot and he didn't want them alive

anymore and these are all the people got killed between 2022 and 2023 it was 50

of them it was 50 people that committed suicide quote unquote by throwing

themselves off a high-rise building stabbing themselves in the back throwing themselves down a flight of stairs like

you know it was just yeah yeah and so so like yeah and so I was like I I can't I

can't cover it because it would take like it would take like 70 episodes to find everyone that he killed and so I

thought of covering like three that were kind of like a crosssection of the people that he killed one being

political opposition one being a military opposition and one being um media related sensationalization of what

he's done and I want to kind of talk through that because one of them actually just died like four or five

days ago and I wanted to kind of dive into a little bit the last one is also

one that happened pretty recently but I want to go into like what was going on there and how devious it was and how the

more I learned about like what that guy was doing with Putin was like man this guy's this guy's like on another level

he he's not just like normal evil he's like Dr Dr what is it Dr Evil yeah Dr

evil evil um anyway so I'll start with with the guy who just died like three or

four days ago his name is Alexi Naval you've heard of this guy right Kay yeah I'm I'm excited because I feel like I

knew that I I I saw this on the news but I did not know a lot of the details so yeah

so I I spent more time researching this than I did writing the outline so just ask questions as you want because I

probably I probably know that but so Alexi uh he's a lawyer he was born in June on June 4th

1976 my birthday that's 1976 no I'm June 5th

oh not that old so he was pretty successful and as a

byproduct of his success as an attorney he would buy uh shares in certain

publicly traded companies in Russia and as a result he was able to get access to certain information around what was

going on with that company financially who was involved in it so on and so forth and he was able to kind of root out a bunch of like corrupt activities

where certain officials had tied certain types of Industries and money was being siphoned off in ways that he could

identify he ended up starting a blog in publishing content on YouTube that was basically calling out a lot of the

people that ended up being part of the Russian sudden death all these major oligarchs all these billionaires all these people tied to in

some way shape or form and all tied to corruption embezzlement and some some way

so at first it was kind of small Time stuff it was like I mean small time for

where it got to like it would be like calling out like a defense secretary or something along those lines but

eventually it moved its way up to uh Dimitri Medvedev who was the Prime

Minister of Russia for a brief brief intern period between Putin's first

Reign and his second Reign and then eventually he got all the way up to calling out Vladimir Putin himself

directly he specifically called out that Putin had built a estate I guess you

could call it that's approximately worth $1.4 billion for a

home and based on the estimates I read it was about the land mass of it was

about 37 times the entire land mass of um uh bellarus and so it was a massive

yeah it was considered a country within a country was basically considered a place where Putin could self-isolate and

there's a movie that was actually uh created around this called Putin's

Palace and in it Alexi is an un he's he's a non-credited producer of the doc

so he was like he was really into this and he was so into this that he was flying drones over this area which I

don't even know how he would do like he was getting he was getting super in his that yeah he was getting super into

Putin's like like space so as a result of this he started

rising in prominence and he founded a new political party called Russia for

the future that was standing on kind of like a non-c corruption platform but it was also like like look we've talked

about this a million times like take the less of lesser of evils in this

case his goal was to unsee Putin in the corruption therein it was also like

isolationist anti-immigration like Pro slavy like it was very like of that

demographic that we would say like okay that's kind of Clos minded but it's like would you rather that or Putin like like

at least this like aiming one step closer to something better so like he's he's he's still like a he's still a

figure that is like a little bit complicated but he was trying to do the best for the time with the people of

Russia so one thing he would do is he would organize he had a huge following

he would organize protests around Russia and against F around the corruption and he would talk about this all this stuff

and televis it through his YouTube channel and his blog and at that point that's when people kind of started

noticing higher up in the Kremlin and he eventually ran for mayor of Moscow and

he ended up getting 27% of the votes which to us doesn't sound like a big

deal but they're all rigged like they're all riged the fact the fact that he got

more than 0% was like a huge victory for him his party and his supporters so throughout this he was

also getting arrested on all these charges for various things basically the government was trying to create this

illusion that he we have an open democracy so this guy can protest against us but we'll also like throw

these like trumped up charges at him and like get him locked up because why do you want to trust this guy because he's also getting arrested of random [ __ ]

it's like it's like a weird like don't look here look there kind of a thing and one of the things that they arrested him

on they they rested on embezzlement charges like it was it was very clearly

like we're trying to attack him with the thing that he's attacking us for um and

so that's kind of where where their stance was so the Kremlin was very well aware of him he had built up a political

movement he' organized a movement on his own and he was getting punished for it essentially M this all came to a head in

August of 2020 so on August 20th of that year he barded a flight to Moscow from a

city called TSK and he became violently ill they diverted that flight to a small

town called ssk which is very small it's a very small town very limited facilities very little limited medical

staff and so the care that he needed for how violently ill he was was insufficient and at that point everybody

who's who knows anything in the International Community knew was going on and so the International Community kind of asserted exerted um uh some

influence over the government of Russia saying hey this guy needs real real help we will take care of him for free just

transfer him out of Russia and so they did Angela Merkel was really the biggest person who helped out here and she

helped get him transported to Berlin for further treatment uh wait can I um I

love Kate McKinnon's impression of Angela Merkel have you ever seen it on Saturday Night Live but she like pretends that she's like texting people

and like kind of it's just like really really funny because she's hilarious and it's really funny I'm sure it is she's

anything she does is is pretty much on top top notch um So eventually he would

recover in Germany and somehow he would find out the contact information of the FSB agents who he thought were

responsible for whatever happened to him he actually there's a recording of him posing as an AE to the National Security

Council talking to the people who actually poison him saying hey what did you do to this guy and they explained

everything on a recording so we know exactly what happened to him what happened to him was that these agents with the FSB went into his hotel room

while he was out and then put a strip of what's called noie truck which is a

nerve agent on his underwear at the hotel so that when he put it on and the nerve agent made contact with his skin

it would poison him that was the idea and what I read about what happens your entire muscle system fails like you go

into fet seizures like you it is a horribly painful way to go apparently

yeah so by this point it was super clear the government had something to do with this regardless of that in January on on

in January of 2021 five months after you've been poisoned he gets on a plane from Berlin going to Moscow the plane is

chalk full reporters and they were saying like are you know are you afraid

like you know what's coming what's happening he would say hey I'm going to this airport this is the time I land

meet me there like he was being super cocky super confident about it and he told the reporters like I'm never afraid

to go back to my home country like he was like he was actually like a pretty noble dude like despite some of his

belief being a little bit like not ideal um obviously the second he lands he's

arrested he's arrested because they said that on one of those previous embezzlement charges he'd skip parole or

something and so they arrested him on that he would end up getting transferred to a penal colony in the Arctic Circle

called polar wolf which was actually the news like today I think about like the

conditions there about how it is yeah like it's awful so apparently it it gets negative3 degrees and they still bring

prisoners out in the m in the morning and make them like do roll call and like basically like scrap some clothes and

like they barely feed them what one thing they said is that he apparently got one loaf of bread a month to eat

yeah it's crazy so I okay two

things K mckinon also does a really good impression of someone in Russia are you did you are you like

literally just watching k m kinon no but I just like that just I just like that reminded me she do one where she's like

she's like we don't have we don't have Windows we have wolves or something like really really funny she's hilarious and

but um so there's a couple of things that are great about her but I read a book what is the book the book about

goog in Russia yeah that's what it was this polar wolf is basically a goog I I

read um one day in the life of Ivan deanovich is like a short book about

um it's by God Alexander Su titson and

it's from 1962 and it's about being in a Soviet prisoner camp in the 1950s and it's just like exact it's it's rough

yeah yeah it everything I read about it so it's it just sounds like it

is an almost legally just FAL way to torture someone to death is what it

sounds like so um while Alexi was here uh he

spent 300 days in solitary confinement like I said he was given one bread loaf to eat a month um and on the

15th of February it was confirmed by the government that he had passed

and nobody knows why um what they know is that the government says that he fell ill that day and then he went into AA

and died um we don't we don't know nobody knows what's going on apparently his body's

been submitted for autopsy who knows what that's going to show like it's it's everybody is obvious that the government

killed him and that's why I said like Putin's like really calculated because like he waited like like three years to

kill this guy like three years in a month actually and he's like in a place where like nobody can see anything yeah

no one knows on there yeah I feel like I saw like a picture of it of like someone walking into it and I was just like

looks [ __ ] cold as [ __ ] and it looks terrible and I just can't of course yeah

I mean it's like it's like he he knew that the heat on this guy on him and everything was super high so he was like

well we have all these charges that have been built up we have like a legally justifiable reason to arrest him and send him to this place and then like

[ __ ] it wait three years nobody's gonna pay nobody's going to know what's going on by then and then he'll just fall ill

and die like he will die all the time here like it's um it's super super calculated that's why like I don't know

like he's just not he just it's nuts but the next guy that I'm G to cover here is

this guy named Alexander let venko which if you look up Russian poisoning

pictures it's the guy who looks like he has cancer he's look at in a cancer looking bed like bald and like just

looks horrible guess this guy 2006 yeah yes okay MH so uh this guy was a former

FSB agent and he was very critical of the uh of the Russian government he

started poking the bear in the 1990s when he accused his superiors of assassinating this specific uh Tycoon

this Russian o Tycoon called or Not O I don't know what kind of Tycoon he was um his name was Boris bizant ski and these

two were friends and long story short was a Boris ended up in Exile after publicly denouncing Putin's

constitutional changes uh apparently he wasn't assassinated at this time he just

he was attempted to be assassinated he ended up he ended up dying mysteriously of suicide seven years later anyways

but they got to him eventually again like plays a long game so um Leno uh he

was arrested and um later acquitted of certain charges and went into Exile um

in the United Kingdom while he was in Exile he kept criticizing the Russian government and its policies he wrote

articles and gave interviews about corruption and criminal activities within the FSB uh he went pretty far

with it he actually went so far as to say that Putin was a pedophile which

like man like he really like I I don't get how these guys think it's like are they trying to die I mean

there there's probably so much worth it like we just like don't know but they're trying to like make it a statement I'm sure you

know with their death that they know is inevitable yeah maybe that's it maybe that's it maybe they know their death's

inedible so they're like whatever just go all the way throw everything you can out there so this guy staying in Exile

in the United Kingdom in in in London and on November 1st of 2006 he falls

horribly horribly ill and is hospitalized in London uh at that time before he'd Fallen ill he was meeting

with two former FSB agents at a hotel bar and it was later determined that he

was poisoned with a radioactive substance called polonium 210 L Leno's condition deteriorated

pretty rapidly and he died like two and a half weeks later on November 23rd that of that year it was later found that the

hotel room Rental Car in every place that one of the two former agents had been um was one of this guy the guys

that this guy loveo had met his name was Demitri kovon and it was all heavily heavily contaminated with ponum so it's

was obvious that this guy killed like you mean like you don't need evidence beyond that like it was clear this is

what happened so before his death he had accused the B

Putin of ordering his assassination and the British government conducted an investigation into his

death They concluded that he had been poisoned by this guy Dimitri kovtun and the murder was basically at the orders

of the FSB approved by Putin basically what's FSB did you say that already I

don't know what it stands for actually it's a k it's a former KGB got it I was like how but there so like there

technically is no R KGB but like of course there is is that what you're saying yeah yeah it Federal Security

Service we call it FSB great

yeah it was the FSK and now if the it stands for federal security service but

for some reason the acronym oh it's because it's an acronym for something in Russian probably yeah but yeah but yeah

it's it's just the it's just a KGB it's just like the scary it's literally the people that hin was a part of yeah um

but yeah that was basically it this guy went out and started talking [ __ ] but I mean that's the point is like he was living in the UK and like even in the UK

they're not afraid to go and just kill you and poison you and do whatever else right find you one of the guys I read

about was [ __ ] killed he was again nobody knows what happened to him he was a Russian billionaire he was

thrown off the top floor of a hotel in in DC oh my God like he committed

suicide off the top floor of a hotel in DC it's like like and it was somebody that was on the outs with Putin so it's

like of course something was happening there right like I don't care where you are like they'll take care of which is

probably why your computer just flashed and why we're being recorded right now why we're both in danger thanks s uh this this last guy

again like I had like about 47 more of these but I'm just going to go through the highlights this last guy also died fairly recently in 2023 so this is Yi

progran do you remember this guy um I don't know okay the name but maybe the

story so long story short this is another one of those guys who knew Putin from when they were little kids they

grew up together went they KGB together all that stuff as a result when Putin

Rose to power he gave this guy like he had a catering service and so he got all the federal government contracts for

catering the guy was worth hundreds of millions of dollars I read like $168 million with the most recent tally like

again another corruption billionaire millionaire type of situation so that s the interesting part the interesting

part is he was um again being close friends with Putin means you get like high level positions doing nefarious

[ __ ] in the federal government so he was running this Agency for the Russian government called the internet research

agency which was directly involved in spreading information through social

media for the 2016 campaign great so like this was the

guy and all that being said the the most interesting thing he actually did was

create a thing called the Wacker group have you heard of this before this is scary so I'm I'm scared

already so great so this was a private military that if Guinea funded with the

support of the Russian government so they used used Russian Munitions and Technology along with resources and

capital to fund this private military that was basically Putin calling his old

buddy saying send a military here and he would just do it so all unofficial all

on the table so he had plausible deniability saying hey I don't know what these guys are doing they're just acting

on their own like the guy would disagree with that ideologically it was mostly a certain that this group like was largely

driven by like white nationalism so one of the divisions within it which was the assault division so they like it's a

military group so they have like the you know surveillance side they have the The

Scouting side they have the assault the most aggressive side of it if you look at their um their flag it almost looks

like a swas stier like it looks like a it looks like a swas stier with like multiple other swas Stiers in the middle of it like right it's like not hiding

right it's not hiding it's not and actually one of the other founders of it besides y guy is a guy who there's

pictures of mless and he has these like he has the the um double lightning bolt

tattoos on on his traps like this is these guys are scary they're so scary I

don't know why I've seen so many Russian politicians shirtless like Russian people shirtless I don't know why I've seen Putin shirtless at all I feel like

I saw one picture of Obama shirtless and I felt really upset yeah was like we don't need that nobody wants that like

be a leader leaders don't go they shower with their clothes on yeah please um so

this is a gross thing but like I I like went out this like YouTube rabbit hole of like these like brutal deaths videos

not they don't show videos but they just talk about them right because you can't show that on YouTube and um like like

50% of them were like the Narco cartels in South America the other 50% were the

Wagner group wow and like the [ __ ] they would do to people and like how they would like they were I mean it's a group

of like it's literally the SFS it's like group of sociopaths and they're all the command of Putin it's all unofficial all

into the books and this guy of Guinea was the founder of it wow one of the things that they would do is that they

would recruit um they would recruit people from prison so what they would do is they go to these peenal colonies like

the one I just mentioned and say hey look if you want to get out of jail you can do it all you got to do is join

Wagner uh your sentence is commuted you're on contract with us for a number of years and that that's it and so

basically they get the craziest [ __ ] people like the ones who are obvious sociopaths in the sociopath that

organization so kind of going back to what I mentioned around Putin in his belief system that like Slavs belong

with Slavs um Russia and Ukraine like I don't I

don't care about the political side of it like ethnically they're the same like they're all slobs like they're all like

one thing essentially and that like drives part of the incent to kind of

invade I assume and like re or Annex Annex crime Crimea and then for Ukraine

and so what Putin essentially demands of Wagner and Ne Guinea is I can't

officially declare war on these people yet I need you to start performing operations in Ukraine to see what's

going on there so the first thing he does is he puts together a force of corner people of these [ __ ] lunatics

he recruits from prisons and try to assassinate zalinski so like that's literally game plan one I need you to

send like a tactile team in there to find this guy and kill him and and then that'll help open open our options to

flood the military in there they fail nothing happens with assassinating zalinsky obviously and so they decide

whatever we'll start the invasion all on our own and so that's what they ended up doing so probably for a thousand different

reasons in the middle of this war with Ukraine Putin decides that he wants Wagner to become subordinate to his own

defense secretary so it's basically him saying like Okay the whole world like I I'm watching CNN everybody knows I'm

doing this so so I want this to be under my opes and so he tries to bring Wagner

under his offices and Broan felt that this defense secretary was incompetent he felt insulted by this request and he

basically refuses to give Wagner group up to him not only that he decides that [ __ ] it I'm not even I don't want to be

a part of any of this anymore I'm going to rebel against Russia and rebel

against Putin so that's what he does he actually takes a Russian city called RAV

which is where our old buddy oh God that that serial killer what was his name the

bad one but rosof I can't remember him but anyways he took that do you know

what I'm talking about yeah I do I G look it up because I my ch ch ch oh yes

good job so he ended up actually taking that City with Wagner which is like literally the first time another country

any entity had taken a Russian country in like centuries and

he starts marching towards Moscow and if you remember the news in like middle of 2023 was there's an armed Invasion

happening in in Moscow right now like they were marching towards taking the Kremlin and obviously Putin puts it down

and one of the ways he puts it down was hey we can just kill you all right now that's fine he's totally cool with that

but the other option is put down your arms and either I will grant you immunity from any prosecution as a

Wagner troop or you can flee to um um belus and be living living there in

Freedom and so his people decide they're going to lay down arms prosan himself you gu he decides to flee to Belarus and

apparently the president of Belarus was the one who negotiated saying you're insane you obviously can't win this just

I'll let you stay here so he does that anyways he goes away for a while nobody really hears about him and then all we

hear is in August of 2023 that yini was flying on a private

plane with 10 people and the plane crashes and it's just

like obviously yeah we all it's so weird to me like it's like so transparently clear

to everyone but I think that's the point right I think the point is to do it in a

way that like you can say oh that's a tragedy I have no idea what happened our government best but then everybody who

needs to know knows exactly what you did but then like you find out that like

there's like 70 other people that keep doing the exact same thing like what why do this like yeah part of it is like I'm

I'm kind of like impressed I'm kind of like I mean this guy was horrible this was a really bad guy this was like this

what he did with Wagner group like I mean the [ __ ] they did to people in Ukraine like it is it is crimes against

humanity like they're really really really bad people but like it's it's just like how do you have

the wherewithal to like stand end up and say I'm going to kill this guy or destroy it's nuts it's just the whole thing's nuts yeah but no it's that's I

don't it's that's all it's just like also then

like that implies that there's like spies everywhere SP everywhere you know which

I'm sure knew that I guess but like so yeah I didn't cover Boris nemstov 2015

Boris bosski 2013 stav marova 2009 Sergey magnitsky 2009 like it's

just it's like name name name name and that's why I was like I was like oh you know what when I heard about the Nal

thing I was like okay I'll cover the people that like Putin's killed I was like I can't cover this it's like it's like three years of content

like yeah it's fasinating it's fast like I I do think at some point I want to do an episode just on him as a human being

more so like like why does this person operate this way like it's so abnormal

like it's so I can't even see lead no totally and and he's like you like he

was president and then like not not president for a little bit and then president again you know he kind of

reminds me of like the iats on Iran except I think he's he is he's the

equivalent of the ayatolla if the ayatolla had also wished to be accepted

by the west and under the offices of a legitimate government because like they they have their elction like Russia has

Federal elections this year and it's like who's going to win like everybody knows who's going to like like but they

still do it right they still do the democracy part without the actual democracy it's so

weird to like pretend oh I did I I found it I read Mr Putin operative in the

Kremlin by Fiona Hill it was really good yeah that's I I will add that to my

list of of books that I will hear you talk to me about because I'm I guarantee I'm not going to read anything but still

anybody who's not me who knows how to read please read the book

oh so wild so wild but but like it also made me think a lot Taylor about like

how um it is it is not Beyond like this

guy's so longtail thinking he's so like he's so not emotional and not like

reactionary MH where I'm just like he was right like he was like I'll invade

Ukraine and I'll win because everybody's going to give a [ __ ] and they're going to stop giving a [ __ ] and then I'll win

he's he's right and like like I'll I'll medal in these elections and then I'll

get the guy I want to and now with the terer interview he said that he hopes um

Biden wins re-election and so all the conservative media is like I hope Biden wins it's like now you believe

him right now you believe him he's definitely like Americans are stupid and

that's part of his core beliefs yeah that was like my takeaway was was like I was like like reading on this like dude

this guy doesn't think the way we think like we have to think in two and four year Cycles like I'm forever if I'm Putin like I

don't need to think the way you think like that's true sure I'll invade Ukraine and it might take me 10 years

I'll still be here who cares and like I I fundamentally think like he

will be the reason why like if the US ever like Falls the superpower like

he will be the reason for it yeah I mean I think you're right

about it being a long game you know like this is going to go on forever in one

shape or form I mean yeah think about the long game think about like he started seeding

the the doubt about our electoral process in like 2015

2016 like and and we're still dealing with it and it is still going to be an issue now

we're talking about fake elections and fake votes and fake like yeah like we don't have the

foresight to be this thoughtful about things and this guy does and I don't

know it's um it's scary it is scary but yeah it is what it is um

anyways that's my topic today I know it's I mean it's a little bit shorter but whatever it's fine I talk for like

an hour can you send me the names of the people that you talked about so that I can put them in the notes yes I just

want to like have them written down yes I know the names are the names are a little thick

um so yeah I'll do that right now um we can we should have a Russian series

we'll put it all together some time because like we love talking about Russia oh I do have I do have one thing to talk about tell me that I slacked you

about is that I was think We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel and there are 119 things in that song or something

oh yeah that he mentioned and we covered most of it not most of it but we covered a couple of them we covered Dave

Crockett JFK and the kennedies which he mentions twice in like different ways the edel the Berlin wall and the

rosenbergs so huge check check off more as we go but that was fun and then like I was also like I like

having such a good time on Valentine's Day reading um all of those like fake Valentines on Instagram they all made me

laugh and I sent you one that says you make my heart implode and it was that the thing that imploded was that

called again like a year ago um and the Titan sub yeah the Titan sub read that

made me laugh so hard and then there was um a bunch of like history hit that we

follow that like has really great content they had like a top couple like top 10 couples of history and we've

covered eight of them so pretty good we're doing great yeah we're doing great yeah um please sell your friend what's

our email address again Taylor Doom toil gmail.com

just.com email us let us you think leave reviews please please leave reviews more

importantly take your family and your friend's phone and just subscribe them to us yeah like they don't deserve while

they're sleeping you can look hold the phone over their face SL it open and then you can do it they won't even know

and while they're sleeping and if you have a marker you can draw a mustache on their face well then we'll do that after

because you won't be able to get into the phone if they had a

mustache this why the brain's of the operation um cool thank you yeah thank

you we'll go ahead and cut things off and we are