uuuuugh. Cutie patooties Tom and Jackie Hawks were looking to sell their Yacht to spend more time with their family on land. When a gaggle of terrible people, led by former child actor Skylar Deleon decided to kill them in the most horrible way and steal their yacht. They aren't smart (but we're willing to bet that they thought they were) and got caught right away. Now so many lives are ruined. Welcome back to a classic doomed true crime episode!
uuuuugh. Cutie patooties Tom and Jackie Hawks were looking to sell their Yacht to spend more time with their family on land. When a gaggle of terrible people, led by former child actor Skylar Deleon decided to kill them in the most horrible way and steal their yacht, they aren't smart (but we're willing to bet that they thought they were) and got caught right away. Now so many lives are ruined.
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like getting my blood tested because like remember how I had I had diabetes both my pregnancies oh yeah yeah I just
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Jay one second we really should all donate money to get fars a light in his office cuz it is like hitch dark in
there like 7 p.m. now we talked about it but I don't think play light I'm not made of money
okay so here's my thing I listen to a lot of those daily kind of podcasts of
like what's going on in the world and like several back toback were talking about OIC are you familiar with this
thing of course I am I'm a woman in America okay I am not a
doctor but I don't think you can do anything to your body and not pay for it like there
is no Miracle like there is no like I'm just going to do a thing and it's going to solve all my problems like I don't
think it works that way I mean it's a whole thing who knows I don't know like the long-term effects I feel
like I mean obviously like I've known about it for a long time and it's I was reading something actually think of the
New York Times today about like when body positive people influencers get skinny and like how weird that is and
like you know it hurts it hurts my feelings that
the answer is if there is a quick Miracle thing to get skinny people will
do it even the people who told me that they were proud to not be skinny yeah all those people are full of [ __ ]
everybody wants to be hot and sexy human biology is not going to change because of what you tell people
to think about like like people if you're I get it we all want to be hot
I'm hot I know I know what it's like to be hot so um but also people I mean you
don't have it skinny doesn't equal hot people like different things we've talked about this before but um it does
but but there are people who were made made living out of being you're really stepping on my joke
here slide I just want to make everybody aware that we are all I'm saying is
that don't don't inject [ __ ] into your body
like wait until round two like wait until round two wait wait like five years for like half the population who
already did this to drop dead then inject yourself with whatever you want but like at this stage when it's like I
was just listening to like the the company that creates it it's based out of like Denmark or something or Norway I forgot what but it is now bigger than
the entire Norwegian economy the the company that makes this One Drug it is
bigger than the entire it is like on track to be as big as a apple well probably not Apple but like an Amazon so
on so like yeah yeah because it's that big of a deal and that's how badly people want it but like wait
until like the third class action lawsuit and then start injecting yourself with a drug like it that's guys
for anybody who like kind of heard my joke about like I know what it's like to be hot like oh that was that was your
joke I'm not explaining my jokes anymore on this podcast um just want to tell
everybody again that fars is wearing a hoodie halfway unep with no shirt underne drinking a tall boy
beer the definition of hotness um okay with that off my chest let's go ahead
and Dive Right In Taylor I believe I'm going first today right yeah okay so let
me pull up my notes and there we are
so I am going to have to take a quick breather in between when I start after I
start this because the dogs are outside I I got to get them but I will start off by saying that I going to go back to my
bread and butter which is murder yay I've been hoping I was thinking about it and I was like let's just talk about
murders this one's like it hits all cylinders it is brutal it is
calculated it is old people getting killed or by young people
horribly and the people that did it are the most unsympathetic human beings on
Earth so we're gonna we're GNA touch on all of it also I do want to call out yes
this was a Dateline NBC episode yes I did watch the Dateline NBC episode on
this murder like 10 years ago yes I remembered it when I I don't know who I'm yelling at right now you Taylor but
like I'll take it still I I realize that this hasn't been covered very much and I
never hear about this in like True Crime Gore history so that's what I'm covering
it so I am going to go get the dogs they
parking okay okay continuing with the podcast all number end so I am going to
be covering the murder of Thomas and Jackie Hawks have you heard about this one do you know the name um it does not
sound familiar just from that okay I bet you knowing you that in a few
minutes you're GNA know what I'm talking about so okay Thomas and his wife Jackie
they were an elderly couple and they were retired they owned a yacht in
Newport California Thomas his background was a law enfor enforcement officer as well as
like an Air Force security guard and a firefighter and Jackie was just like she was still like Supermarket chout up
until they married in 1985 which like also reminds me like Taylor there was a time in this country when you could just
work as a firefighter and then retire in by a yacht just saying I know that used to be
an option but I also told my boat joke the other day and then someone told it to me the next day because it's such a
popular boat joke but the two best days in a boat owner's life are the day they buy it and the day they sell it it is
about the status symbol and the fact that people know I have a yacht it is not about the yachting part of it
parking in your driveway exactly so in November of 2004 long story short
basically Thomas had kids from a prior relationship uh therefore Jackie had step children they were a really close
family the kids lived in Arizona they were having babies and basically this couple was like let's give up the
yachting life and go do this because that's all they did they like basically decided live on the yacht fulltime they would Coast around from in the Pacific
Ocean off California and that was our life which sounds amazing so uh in 2004 November 2004 uh they put
the yacht up in an advertisement in yachting World magazine and I wrote down quote which I'm positive you have a
subscription to Taylor I Do by um the reason that we even have this um we're
talking about a boat with people is because my neighbors have a boat and like parked on a mountain and you're like where the hell are they taking that
boat Sal and sea we already covered it go back few episodes they're not going there so they put this advertisement up
in yting World magazine they were going to sell it for $435,000 and that time the ad was
answered by a guy named John Julius Jacobson Jr so here's the thing that I know me you're into an argument about um
John later on in his life underwent a gender reassignment and became known as
Skylar Deon and I want to respect people for their
identities but I don't want to respect this guy because [ __ ] him like if you when I tell you what this guy's done you
be like [ __ ] this piece of [ __ ] so I'm a little bit conflicted I will refer to him as Skyler or by John but I don't
respect him and I don't go a [ __ ] what his pronouns are there whatever whatever comes
out well it's good because I wrote down sky for the rest of this so it's actually I didn't know what I'm saying
look at you but I will I will refer to Skylar as a he because it's it's just
confusing because at the time all this happened Skyler was married had a kid like there was it's weirdly complicated
to be like super PC about this right now so I'm just going to Barrel ahead so
like I said Skyler was married to a woman named Jennifer Henderson who at the time of this event was pregnant with
his child uh and around this time they would have been about 24 years old give or
take Skyler expressed interest um to Thomas in buying this yacht by that
yachting World magazine whatever the hell was called and decided that he
wanted to perform sea trolls before he would seal the deal basically like take it out in the water it's like a standard thing that you do when you sell a
boat Jackie and Thomas were pretty suspicious they like how does a 24-year-old kid have the resources to
buy a $435,000 yach like it just sounded fishy fishy um and the the reality of it
was that Skyler actually was a child actor he was in a bunch of bit roles
around Hollywood he was in SE several roles for um the Power Rangers might
need more from Power Rangers like the live action one and he also said that I made so he said I made my money from
Child acting but also I invested that money into real estate so that was his
his Shi Skyler uh seeing that they were suspicious at one of their next be
because this is like not like a one time I'm going to show up and buy this thing he showed up a times he showed up with his wife who was visibly pregnant and
they also already had a daughter in addition to that in a stroller and basically like that was kind of the RS
they were like yeah I feel like that I would be like that works a lot yeah yeah if anybody wants to rob me show up with
your pregnant wife I'll I'll give you the keys to my house um good to know for
robers out there and also don't don't talk about Power
Rangers is still on and it's it's pretty great there's one that miles just said I love it like we there one that we really
like wait the mining like the one that we saw when we were kids there like a
new one yeah there's a new one a new show it's like Dino something it's like
they have like dinosaur powers and like it's really cute there's like a cute little like um uh like uh gay couple
that's like really normal and like having a great time you know what I mean they don't make it weird it's like really Progressive and super fun Taylor
do you remember when we were kids kids and like the US military was like feeding us propaganda through GI Jo's
and we would like every boy would watch GI Jo's like like now if you see it in h
like wait a minute like that this 100% advertisement it really weird super
weird so basically uh at this point the guy says I have the money here's my wife
we're super successful very young people uh we want to steal this deal all we need to do now is go on sea trials to
make sure that of the seaworthiness of this craft and so on and so forth so Skyler shows up on no November 15 with
two additional people he shows up with a guy so his wife's not there he shows up with a guy named John Fitzgerald Kennedy
which despite that name he did not descend from American Dynasty he was
actually a rolling 60s [ __ ] member uh ex-convict uh with attempted murder
charges on his record he was also huge um I'm
conflicted cuz I was like that's ridiculous but I'm also like a huge criminal named JFK is kind of funny that
is a little bit funny I will agree with you on that so that when you said he was
huge like that actually kind of makes me laugh but also that's dumb don't name your kid don't do that it like kind of
makes me sad because it like makes me think that like his mom was like you can be whoever you want to be will M John
it's Gerald and then he turned out to be an absolute [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] yeah
which is unfortunate for the mom I don't know if she made it but it's unfortunate yeah so what she told what she told it's
ridiculous she told this guy Thomas that John is his accountant and that's why
he's president in addition to that he also brought a guy named um Alonzo
Manion M something like that um and n m
a h a i n yeah and he was like okay so it's going to be three of us plus you
Thomas and your wife Jackie we're gonna go on SE TR together so they set sell out of Newport Harbor and this on 4m.
and they start doing their sea trials and at some point throughout this experience uh John fitzel JFK let's call
him JFK easier uh JFK and Skyler lured Thomas down to the state room while
Jackie made on Deck with Alonzo it is noted that Thomas was like Jack like
when you look at picture this guy you're like holy [ __ ] like yeah he look great he's like he's he was probably on OIC
like he was ripped like see I'm bring it all the way back fundamentally IAB just
makes you not eat the comedy keeps going didn't I say we're a comedy
podcast yeah you did and I mean I laughed but everyone laughs nobody else
said um Story of My Life JFK and Skyler bring Thomas down to the stateroom and
beat the [ __ ] out of him and use a stun gun to incapacitate him while Alonzo on
the main deck was restraining Jackie they then brought Jackie down to the state room and handcuffed their arms
and duct tape their mouths and their eyes shut GH for about two hours give or
take they were basically just sailing trying to figure out what to do next and they were pretty close to the shores of
Catalina iseland but still like in deep water and the three men brought both of them up to the deck they remove the tape
from their eyes and they asked them to sign several things they asked them to sign a bill of sale for the yacht a
power of attorney and to write down their passwords for their bank accounts after the group after this the
group tied a rope around their waist and the other side of it was connected to a 66 PB anchor and Skyler through the
anchor overboard oh my God how horrible is that that's like one of the most
terrifying things I can imagine I I actually thought about this a lot I think that the way to go Taylor at first I was like okay so what I'll do is I'll
try to swim down to the Anchor grab it and see if I can swim up holding it over my head but obviously you can't right
like there's probably no physical way to do that so probably your best bet is just
like inhale immediately right yeah there's really no another choice yeah fair enough if listeners if you have any
suggestions on how to survive being thrown overboard with an anchor uh please write to us at doelp at gmail.com
yeah dude let us know so about a week later friends and family hadn't heard from them but like at that time it
wasn't that weird to not hear from them because it would take these long sailing trips they come back and do whatever um
but after a week or so it passed and they everybody knew that they were going to have this meeting where they're going to meet this guy to seal the steal and
nobody had heard about what was going on they thought it was a little bit weird and they decided to go some of their
friends this guyy named Carter Ford went to the boat decided to look around and he realized he looked around was like this whole thing is like crazy sloppy
like shit's everywhere that's not how these guys live that's not how they kept their their
property and they also noticed there was a towel hanging out of the port hole on one side I have no idea what that means
other than maybe at some point they were free enough to like try to flag someone
down maybe I I don't know but while they were under like in the bottom of the boat yeah when the state room um yeah
but otherwise there was no sign of the hawk so the police were notified when the police came on board they did notice
that there was a receipt in the trash can that had like duct tape and um rope
and like murderer kit stuff basically beyond that they didn't see
anything else that was super super alarming one of them left a business card uh in The State Room saying hey if
you're the new owner contact us asap eventually Jennifer Scholar's wife would call saying that she was a new owner but
the police were not super satisfied with their responses with her responses because they said that she was acting
very unusual very abrupt it almost sounded like somebody else was speaking into the microphone like trying to feed
her answers so two weeks later uh Thomas's
sonjie stepson uh filed the missing person's report and shortly thereafter
were notified that on November 26th Skyler which is somebody that nobody had
ever heard of before in their entire lives and these people were like the Hawks were not crazy people they heard
that Skyler had access their bank account utilizing a power of attorney which is like you would assume anybody
you love and know to someone else would know that exactly exactly literally just your kids
that's it so police locate Skylar and Jennifer they're in Long Beach and they went this
is incredible they were in at the I didn't write this down but I'm going to tell you they were clean they volunteered to clean a church on Sundays
like that was their thing they would like volunteer to do Church stuff like apparently Jennifer was raised super
religious which like goes back to showed like don't raise your kids Rel like of them you're creating sociopaths
so that's where they were found that's where they were picked up they weren't actually under arrest of that time that's what they picked them up to
question them and their story was pretty standard they were like hey I bought the thing I bought the yacht fair and square
last I saw the Hawks they got in a car they caught in their car and they were heading down to Mexico I don't know I
don't know anything else I also just um remember that like this is not the only Power Ranger that killed someone another
person did too or someone on the Power Rangers the red Power the Red Power
Ranger also um Ricardo Medina looked it up he killed someone in 2015 he was a
red Power Ranger for a while dude what is it with that show get your kids get them to stop watching them
you're right not wrong it's like the omen it's like it's like when everybody that's it's like if I got
cast I mean I'd probably get cast as Damian because I'm kind of cute like that but if I got cast as Damian in The
Omen I probably wouldn't do it because it's like everybody just dies when you oh my God I love you you pushing a mom
off of like a balcony but you're like a huge
man I'm Dy when I want to be like tricycle like knocking your
knocking the mom over the my knees keep hitting my
face um so on the bill of sale the witness listed was this Alonzo Mansion
guy so police were very easily able to figure out who was a part of what how did they put their real names on it I mean they were trying to make it
legal like that's how stupid this guy was he was trying to make this incredibly criminal activity as legal as
he could make it it was funny I was listen to last podcast on the left and they were talking about um Charles
banson and about how when he came out of prison after being a kid and he decided that the way that he was going to try
and go straight and not be a criminal was to go into bars and tell people that hey um my buddies are outside with
shotguns they're going to break in here and shoot and kill everybody if you don't give me all your cash and there were like their joke was like yeah even
when he's trying to go straight his only thought of how to do that is to Crime his way into it oh my God like exactly
what this was so yeah on the bill of sale this guy laoon which is like the other
perpetrator um is there in addition to that on December 16th police actually found the Hawks car in Mexico and
somebody had it somebody was said that was to they told the police they were given the car by a person that fits
Skylar's description which if you look Skyler up is the opposite of Thomas which is like an incredibly tall Jack
dude so right C was off and like
no one gives you a car I me that's
suspicious I hate to say it but it's Mexico like I mean it's like parts of Iran if somebody just gave you a car
you're like yeah there blood in the back whatever just hose it down in your gun yeah that probably bought back yeah
exactly so the other part of it that police Tracked Down was that this bill of sale was actually notorized which is
absolutely incredible what police did was they traced down this notary republic which shows just how Absolut
abolutely crooked and not trustworthy not republics are they found that this
notary republic was asked to sign and notorized this document this bill up
sale in a hotel room and was given $2,000 for for trouble so it was it was
obvious like something was like come on if someone mization is
like $70 like if someone's like here's two like obviously like hands with like
a glove on covered in blood for real and the whole point is you're supposed to prove that the people are there like
that's your job you're literally literally only your job I did I had to get my's birth certificate for him to go
to school and I didn't have it so I had to get a notorized copy blah blah blah but I did an online notary and it was
great they just like did we did a video call I showed her my license and she did it I don't have to go anywhere well this
person's obviously lying because you're you're not supposed to like their job is to prove things are real and obviously
wasn't real because the people weren't there duh they're dead right right yeah so uh so basically all the dots were
kind of connecting police still weren't ready to make a final arrest eventually Alonzo was the first one to crack
because police were like like you realize what you did what we think you did is probably one of the worst murders
we've ever heard of like you're getting the electric chair like no matter what
it reminds me of the prisoners dilemma of course I think I thought I
think that the the the I was talking to my husband about it and I was like yeah the answer is you always should tell on
your friends because they're going to tell on you isn't that the answer W was like it's more complicated than that I was like I don't know I feel like that's
the answer like you got to be the first guy to crack or you're all gonna you're gonna die yeah if it was me Taylor if
you and I committed a crime together before the crime was done being committed I'd just drive to the police station and say you did
it okay well you're off my list of people to commit crimes with you were on
my list but didn't we have a commit crime post it at some point we yeah okay plan crimes
commit crimes PL crimes make it was great um so
this Lonzo guy folds like like an origami duck like he told the [ __ ]
what a way to ruin your life what a dumb way to ruin your life
there's so many of those there's so many of those like idiots like so he
immediately tells police everything that's going on cuz he like believes the whole death penalty thing which he should which I'll get to in a moment um
he wait what state are they being tried in or they in Mexico California okay
yeah and he was the one that told police that Skyler again if you look at him
he's like maybe a buck 30 soaking wet like you could like Snap him like a wet towel he's the one that told Skyler that
they're going to need a bigger guy because this guy's too big to try and take down on their own and that's what
resulted in them finding JFK looking for that guy so wow police charge them and
basically everybody's found guilty but I'm going to go through that case by case because this this goes like a layer
like many layers deeper so at this point police had already used had already
pulled all this evidence together using bank records using cell phone records and all this stuff and they found some
coincidences one of the coincidences was that in 2003 so a year before all this
went down a guy named John Harvey went missing he was actually imprisoned at
the same time and at the same place that Skyler was imprisoned for an unrelated robbery and John had gotten released
before Skyler timing wise police could track
Skylar's movements from for when this guy went missing and discovered that Skyler got um got out of that robbery
charge and then apparently met up with JN and somehow convinced him to go down to Mexico with him for a business
venture JN didn't return but somehow Skyler who had just gone out of jail had
withdrawn $50,000 out of John's account so like something was going
right that is so okay this is this is incredible so in addition to all this before he was arrested Skyler had told
his father what he had done to the Hawks so between his arrest and his conviction he had hired another inmate who was
pretty close to his release date to kill his father after he gets
out so police only figured this out because they flipped this inmate cell and they found all this material about
the Honk's death about it where Skylar's father lived like all this [ __ ] oh my
God which also made me think to myself like how funny would it be to find like a legal document like a legal contract
in jail saying this person has agreed to pay this person this dollar figure to commit this murder like how do youfor
this yeah how exactly how do you enforce this stuff oh my God that is ridiculous
I've never oh my God so the other amazing thing that happened in addition to this because Skyler clearly is not a
fast learner he also hires another inmate to kill his cousin who had helped
him kill John Harvey
oh my God and the only and the way police found this out was that there was a map being passed around the like cell
unit of this cousin's house in its layout and everyone's like yeah youed us
to kill him that was basically it this is like very on brand from like you know our early days where we're like you
don't nobody's a criminal mastermind these criminals are all idiots yeah yeah this and that's why I was like I was
like I'm not honoring with this guy [ __ ] like [ __ ] this guy he sounds he's he is the worst type of human yeah so
unsurprisingly Jennifer was sentenced to two life sentences without the possibility of parole Skyler was found
guilty of three murders so that's Jackie Thomas and this guy John and he was
sentenced to death my favorite part reading this case was his lawyers didn't even argue that he didn't do it and like
when I was doing death penalty Defense work I was on the appeal side so like you were already been convicted of doing the
crime so then we're just appealing whether the death sentence was the appropriate punishment for you in this
case they're like they're looking at that it's like there's no way to flip this into you you absolutely this and
what's amazing is he went through all this effort to make it look legal by like getting you a not to Republic which
was all evidence that traced back to him it's un
unreal then we have uh John JFK he was also found guilty of two counts of first
G murder he was also sentenced to death so him and Skyler are in Pelican Bay together I I'm I would love to know how
like after knowing each other for like at this point it'll be 20 years one day schy is like I'm
transitioning today and it's like we're on death row like what are you what are you talking
about um Alonzo he cooperated he ended up getting uh only I guess 20 years and
four months he was convicted of voluntary manslaughter so he got a lighter sentence um a guy named myON
Gardner he became aware of the plot and he was the one that referred Skyler to
JFK saying you need a better guy like can you imagine that if I was like I was
like Hey Taylor listen I'm gonna kill this ouly couple they're the guy's too strong for me like what do I what what I
doing like listen I've been racking my brain thinking about this far I think that you need a bigger guy to go with you and that I know the guy right
like come on people oh my God uh that guy who referred uh Kennedy or JFK to
Skyler he was found to be an accessory to the crime he served four years for his role which I think is pretty light
because like what a [ __ ] scumbag of a human being to like hear this and be like I'm going to try and help you and
find yeah let me let me do something what do you what do you need yeah what do you think that guy's G to come out of
prison after four years and be like a brain doctor like it's no like he's clearly messed up so yeah um that's it
that's the horrible horrible horrible sad tragic death of the Hawks their corpses have never been recovered their
I shouldn't have said corpses their bodies have never been found yeah um and they never that because I'm wearing my
my future corpse shirt is that why you I did not see that I did not see um man
they looked so happy yeah I bet they were they seem like a really happy couple I mean that would have been at that point married
for 1920 years um and a lot of that the the highlight of it was spending years
on this yacht sailing around the Pacific Ocean and prob they having a great goddamn time
yeah so yeah it's awful people like this should just be shot in the back of the head like we should just like they like
carps you should just find them and Bash their head against the wall um yeah I
mean I don't get it what was that plan
ruin a bunch of lives if youl if if you were like I get it I like we got to stop
the podcast no right that's good it's good that I don't get it so that's my fun
story for today I hope the audience enjoyed me going back to a more traditional format a more traditional
topic for me um and uh yeah if you have
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mails um Lindsay sent us wait did you get her emails you don't uh for some
reason I I don't think I do we tried to forward it but like whatever I can try again but Lindsay sent us a voice memo
um about the history of Asia so I will send it to you um we can because can answer a question so I'll send that to
you and I will report back on that as well how long how long is that it's like
five minutes
BL BL see I feel like the history of Asia will take five five minutes more than five
minutes um but well I need to listen to it again and P from it but thank you Lindsay um you're the best and then also
I had dinner with my friend Ben last night and it was super fun and he's he listens and he is the one who is a pilot
and he gave me some other airplane disasters to potentially talk about in the future and I was like oh my God so I
would love to do that yes I was like what I'm hearing is that um that I like
every time that something bad happens they learn from it but also like bad stuff happens all the time so we're just
knocking out the bad stuff from happening but unfortunately it's an infinite soup to pull from yeah exactly
um but that was super super fun and um it's fun to have someone who really likes the show thanks Ben ni
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