Doomed to Fail

Ep 89 - Fire In the Rubble: The Great San Francisco Fire

Episode Summary

Ok! It's 5:13 am on April 18, 1906. The earthquake is over, a lot of people are dead or trapped in the rubble. Almost right away, dozens of fires start across the city - many are small in homes and can be put out immediately. But some, especially in places where the gas lines have ruptured, are out of control in minutes. In a city where many are trapped or injured, they now need to run for their lives to escape the flames. After four days of fire and a heroic stand by the SF Fire Department and the US Military - 80% of San Francisco will be gone. Join us for part two of San Francisco's worst day - the Fire.

Episode Notes

Ok! It's 5:13 am on April 18, 1906. The earthquake is over, a lot of people are dead or trapped in the rubble. Almost right away, dozens of fires start across the city - many are small in homes and can be put out immediately. But some, especially in places where the gas lines have ruptured, are out of control in minutes. In a city where many are trapped or injured, they now need to run for their lives to escape the flames. After four days of fire and a heroic stand by the SF Fire Department and the US Military - 80% of San Francisco will be gone.

Join us for part two of San Francisco's worst day - the Fire. 

Episode Transcription

Hi Friends! Our transcripts aren't perfect, but I wanted to make sure you had something - if you'd like an edited transcript, I'd be happy to prioritize one for you - please email doomedtofailpod@gmail.com - Thanks! - Taylor

[Music] in a matter of the people of the State of California versus orthal James Simpson case number ba09 and so my

fellow Americans ask not what your country can

do for you ask what you can do for your and we're back to another episode of

Doom to fail which that means I did the int introductions properly I'm bars joined here by Taylor and Taylor you're

you're did you did you change between recordings no I I took my sweatshirt off because I'm getting hot oh then we're

trying to do wardrobe changes between recordings um sweet and we're back to a new topic

where this G be a Taylor's joint and she's gonna play the regular game of me

guessing what she's going to cover and I'm gonna be wrong I mean you know what I'm going to cover because I covered the first half last

week San Francisco Fire yes got it

um so okay I feel like I got like 70% of

the way there and then the book I was reading was just like so long that I was like I want to die I was listening to it

at 2.5 speed last night and I was like this this has to end so um I feel by

ending of this I'm not going to land this as much as I want to but we'll we'll talk about it so before we

go and kind of recap last week and talk about the fire I'm gonna send you a

picture can I send it in the chat in this um uh I don't know but if not you

can send her slot I think it's a link I linked it twice I'm likeing I'm 100

years old there's a link can you click on that link please and describe what you're seeing in that

picture um complete and utter

Devastation and a giant fire that is black and white there is a clearly a

trolley system running down the center of the city one building for some reason is missing its entire facade which seems

bad because of the earthquake ah that'll do it but the rest of the um rest of the

buildings are standing I mean there's a lot of rubble in the street but yeah so

this is okay so this is like the day after the earthquake and I'll share this on social media but I think it's wild so

there's like a building missing a facade so like a dollhouse you can see inside and see the room and then there are

people sitting on the street sitting in the rubble kind of sitting in chairs looking down a big hill and the fire is

just two blocks away it's coming for them you know so I'm sure all of this

area was destroyed as well yeah but you don't know that I mean you don't know that it's coming for you

when you're looking at it because fire is strange directions all the time no I think you know it's coming for you I'll tell you why a little bit because it

came for everyone um um remember that the

earthquake happened at 5:12 a.m. on April 18th 1906 it was a 7.9 earthquake

and it was like 42 seconds long which is just so unbelievably long I can't even

imagine so a lot of people died immediately Chimes fell buildings collapsed and then do you remember what

happened to the fire chief by chance he walked home he was

sleeping in the living room but he walked in to check on his wife and he walked into an open hole yes so he goes

straight to the hospital that is Chief Sullivan he never wakes up he is like

he's there they don't tell him what's happening he dies a couple days later so the fire chief he is um he he doesn't

make it but um so there's like an acting fire chief

that I'll tell you about in a second but the fire chief dies um I also posted and sent you a text that I got a crowbar

said I would have one yeah you PR of you thank you and I was going to bring it in here to show you but then I was like I

should keep it under my bed duh that's like where it needs to be so I left it my bed so it's there I've I've also seen crowbars before I know I know so I have

a crowbar but um so also I'll add shoes under there and then the third rule is

to make sure you have water cuz water is going to be a big problem um in San Francisco like literally right now so

almost immediately after the earthquake communication is cut off between San

Francisco and the rest of the world um the telegraph System telephone system everything is is down and um the

earthquake is pretty much over it has a couple little aftershocks in the next couple days but

the earthquake damage is done like that is already done and now it's time for the fire so and we talked about this

before because of societies like in in London in 1666 like there was just fire

that was the only option you know like you had candles you had a fire in your house and then in Chicago you know there

was like you have a gas stove you have gas um lights and then now in San Francisco some things have electricity

like the businesses usually do but homes usually still have like gas lighting and and gas for everything so immediately

there are a bunch of fires because gas mans are broke chimneys fall down there's little fires kind of all over

the city but a lot of them are put out by people cuz they're like in their house so if you're like like in your kitchen and you see a fire like you

we've talked about this before like you saw a big fire in like a window or like a mirror and you like had to go put it out oh my God yeah terrifying yeah but

so that probably happened hundreds of times but someone was there so you're at your house you do it so there's no like

it doesn't spread it's just you at your house but then a lot of places where the commercial buildings where there's may be like a night one night Watchman but

not a lot of people so those fires got out of hand like really quickly

um most businesses did have electric lights but it was mostly the gas um the

gas like lines exploding that started all the fires by 7:30 a.m. so about 2

hours after the earthquake all of the gas had been cut off and it would be cut off for 23 days so for 23 days they

would not have access to gas and what people will do later is they will build

stoves out of bricks on the street so people were outside cooking for about a

month they weren't allowed like back in their homes to like have open cles and do things like that um I also wrote I

have no idea how to do that if was this it was April okay so it wasn't like freezing

cold it's not freezing I mean it's San Francisco so it's like San Francisco gets pretty cold and damp it's like damp

but like not the world um So within fires about three to four days long

there are 30 different fires about that kind of like converge like into one big fire it destroyed approximately 20

25,000 buildings 490 blocks were destroyed and in today's money the

damage would be 8 and a half billion dollars so it just like destroyed the

city um in the beginning the death toll that they were saying was about 300 but

like that cannot be true you know like we talked about with like the other fires like that's ridiculous like you

don't you there's so many people whose bodies you're never going to find and people who you don't know where at a certain place or whatever and especially

like they were discounting the people in Chinatown for a long time so now that

they started to count them then we think the number is a little bit higher so obviously like the death toll is probably closer to like 3,000 if not

more um a lot of bodies were just like unable to be found because they were burned so badly they're just like part of this Rubble the chief dies um but I

do want to emphasize that Chief Sullivan a lot of the good that happened during the fire and how prepared they were were

because of him he made sure that his you know his department they were fully trained they did a ton of drills they

were like ready to help the problems that they had were like you know water and like the fire was huge and all the

things but like the the firemen were as ready as they could have been and that was because of him so now that um he

is you know now that he is essentially dead he dies a couple days later but they never talk to him again um there's

going to be a new chief that is is going to have to step up and then the military is going to get involved as well there

are a lot of stories of things like and I hate this I think this is like the worst thing of like parents dying and

like the kids being left alone you know and like trying to figure out what to do so like finding like a baby by itself

like I hate that Mak me so upset but like yeah you know so like a lot of that is happening so right when it happens um

when the fire starts the last message that the Navy gets out of San Francisco to the rest of the world like over the

wires they say earthquake town on fire send Marines and tugs and that's it so

rest of the country kind of starts to know that it's happening and they start to kind of start to send relief but they really don't know like the extent of

what's going on there Oakland is not on fire San Francisco is so people are able to escape to Oakland I'll talk about

that in a second so some stories just like some like anecdotal stories like from people who are like doing Really

Brave things really crazy things are happening to them as this fire is just like building and building um the author

Jack London do you know who that is he wrote like The Call of the Wild about the dog oh yeah yeah go yeah yeah so he

lived 40 miles away and coler's magazine called him that morning and they said

can you go to San Francisco and tell us what happened so him and his wife went to San Francisco and they kind of just

like walked through the city as it was burning and like talked to people and like met people and he wrote an article

for Colliers and I listened to it today it's available on Wikipedia someone did like an audio version of it and some of

the things that you know he says is you know San Francisco is gone the earthquake is going to make this so much

harder so this isn't like a fire at a place where

like things aren't already destroyed you know what I mean like there's like the Rippling of the streets and you know all

the water remains are broken and all the gas Mains are broken so the town is already destroyed and then it's on fire

which makes it like that much worse you know yeah um and people were like he

said people were very calm um he saw someone offering $1,000 which is like

[ __ ] ton of money 1906 to help bring like a wagon of of trunks um somewhere

and then no one would help him and he eventually saw those trunks on fire like everything caught on fire people were like I was this like yesterday I was

worth $600,000 and today I have nothing and he went to a man's house and the man

was like this is my house like it'll be gone in 15 minutes you know and he was

like this is my wife's China he's like look at my piano isn't it beautiful and like he knows it's going to be destroyed

because of the fire is coming which is like horrifying okay Taylor you have 15

minutes M said save the piano okay so that was what I was gonna ask you you have 15 minutes to save the

three most valuable things in my home yes I feel like I have

like papers like our passports and like our birth certificates and stuff so I feel like I'd want to save those I also feel

like you know I thought about it like I don't know I feel like I would just like take a bunch of clothes and like underwear and like pajamas cuz like a

lot of people are going to be like dirty for a really [ __ ] long time after this because there's no burning water and water is so um so important thank

you miles and so rare that like you can only use it for drinking and cooking you can't use it to like take a

shower yeah you know you know what I what I thought was I would take

my laptop cell phone chargers and papers

Chargers is a good one to remember yeah because that's like the only connection you can really have to

the outside world but you're if we came together then we'd be set yeah

yeah we um but yeah so people are thinking so

there's some rumors and this happens in every disaster but there's rumors that like this is the end of the world people are like Chicago's on fire too you know

like every major city is on fire like the world is ending which like obviously is not what happened but people were

kind of panicking a little bit um there are a couple hotels obviously and

apartment houses that collapsed and they're just full of bodies and we'll just never know what happened to those people I think we talked about that last

week but they're just once the they're trapped in the rubble and then the fire comes and we'll never know um one of the

fires so several fires that kind of converge into one so one fire is called the ham and eggs fire they tried to say

that a woman was making breakfast but I don't think that that's true I think like that could have happened anywhere

you know but that ends up being one of the worst ones I don't really know say is good geography but this one is like South of Market Street and that one

ended up being the worst but other fires were starting like simultaneously um people were doing the same thing that

they did in Chicago where they were like burying their stuff so they would like bury all their China bury their Pian

like try to like bury stuff so it would be safe from the fire but a lot of that stuff was like so hot and another thing

that I think is it's science but it's wild is like the oxygen is one of the things that makes things catch on fire

so people had stuff in in like a safe at their house and they couldn't open the safes for at least a month because one

um like one organization tried to open theirs on May 2nd so April 18th to May 2nd and as soon as they opened it

everything caught on fire inside of it because it's still so hot inside and then once the oxygen hits it that's when

it ignites so they had to wait like at least a month to open things that were like super sealed which I think is crazy

um it's the same story that we had heard over and over we heard it in London we heard it in Chicago where people were

like charging a lot for like their carriages and their cars and to get people out of out of the Town um so you

know the prices were like obviously increasing like of course they would um one person in the book I I read one

person said like if he thinks that because you know in the Bible when in

Sodom and Gomorrah Lot's wife turns around and turns into salt why would I know that I don't know it's like a

famous story but some someone was like I think that she didn't die from that I think she died from carrying her trunk out of this town because like everyone

was carrying all their [ __ ] like one guy had like was carrying his dead wife people were carrying you know the all

they could just trying to like get away like save their couple you know their couple little things but then that got

me thinking like why would you have a trunk ever as your luggage it's going to be be super heavy and it's like a brick

so it's like when did we invent luggage with wheels and do you want to guess what year we invented that I when did we

invent Wheels do we have wheels back then did they invent did they know that round things roll back then first it was

1906 we've had wheels for like thousands of years oh okay oh my god

um anyway it was 1970 which I think is way late to figure out that you should put wheels on your

luggage a man named Bard d sat out invented rolling Luggage in 1970 and patented it in 1972 can you copy and

paste his name and find out what his net worth is because I bet it was like three3 billion dollar I mean like I

can't believe we think of that earlier it's real dumb everyone to have like a really heavy drunk so um people are

trying to just get out with whatever they have um one fun story is the California Academy of Sciences on Market

Street had a goddamn hero named Alice Eastwood she was a selftaught botanist

and she had preserved a ton of plant spe specimens and had all of the science

material and things there and so she went in the middle of the fire climbed over like all of the broken stuff from

the from the earthquake and saved a [ __ ] ton of scientific research she would she

climbed up six stories through all the rubble got as much as she could and she lowered it down to her friends with a

rope and they were able to save it she had to move it several times but she saved a lot of scientific work then so

great job Alice um people were rushing to the water so Oakland was out on fire

so they needed to like get their fairies were just like moving people moving people um across the bay to places that

like obviously were not engulfed in flames um at the pier it was Women and Children First and that reminded me that

Lindsay also wrote wrote my cousin Lindsay wrote to us because she said that like you kind of backed into being on

the right side of that Women and Children First argument because like essentially it is based on like the

patriarchal idea that women are nurturers but also I'm for it because I want to be first on the boat if you want

to be a true feminist sailor you will sacrifice your life to save mine I will not I will be first in the boat with my

kids so I have to Grapple with that on my own um over in Oakland the three major

English English English language papers um printed a paper together the next day

so they did like a joint um newspaper to tell people what was going on um a lot of people went to their workplaces to

save them because they were like my house is okay or my house is gone so what do I do next I'm going to go to my

office and try to save it because this is my place of employment and like I don't want to be a dick but like I would literally never do

that I mean like could you imagine like going to our our old office and being

like I'm super worried about this I'd be like that'd be like the last thing I would think of no I guess not I guess

like my relationship to my emplo place of employment is different now than it was back then so maybe I would

now but also everything's online everything's in the cloud everything's digital now I would never do that but

like I get people did that then but just was like oh my God I would literally never risk my life to save my office we

have to save the Staples chairs yeah no like L is this is a $1,500 chair but

still it has wheels you could like P push out on it no they clearly did not have wheels on chairs if it took that

long to met wheels on luggage they definitely didn't have wheels on chairs until like 2013 probably no I think I'm

gonna fact check myself um who invented chairs with wheels

because I think it's Charles Darwin wait it's

Darwin yeah okay I thought it was Thomas Jefferson but the internet is telling me

now it's Charles Darwin going to Kora for no reason um but it was a long time

ago like longer ago than wheels on luggage wild now people are saying no I

thought maybe it Thomas Jefferson either way history of the office chair anyway we maybe we'll get there so Taylor why

don't why don't we like why don't we you know why don't we just like put our heads together and just list off

everyday items and figure out if they're better with chairs on it with wheels

I love everything about that idea I'm 100% in well well guys the next we'll do

a bonus episode where we just list off every item we we can think of 5,000% um

so people were doing that like one photographer got a lot of really good shots of the city because he went to a

photography store and the guy was like take anything you want it's going to you know it's G to get burned anyway so just like take it um I know you you have not

seen peewee's cre Adventure right I mentioned it during the Alamo episode I think I have so jum well I haven't seen

all of them but I've definitely seen I mean I no you didn't say was it

Peewee yeah okay maybe not I'm think about the other guy who um the other

weird guy he also got caught jerking off in a in a

theater not PE he goes to death row Ernest Ernest

I'm confusing Ernest with Peewee okay disregard Blair and I watch Ernest saves Halloween or one of them recently and

it's still still pretty fun um so okay so Pew's Great Adventure he is somewhere

and there's a pet store on fire and he is like I got to see the animals so he

goes in and he's like opening the cages and there's like monkeys and there's dogs and cats and like bunnies and he's

holding the fish tanks every time he goes in he se he sees a cage full of snakes and and he's like every single

time and he brings out all the animals out and finally he the last animals in are the snakes so he comes out of the birding building and he's holding two

handfuls of snakes and he's like and he hates that it's so funny but

during this great fire two young men did save all the pets of a pet store which is very nice they broke the windows yeah

that would be me while you're saving the orphans from the orphanage I'm saving the animals for sure perfect um I don't

know if you remember last week we talked about the palace hotel which was the nicest hotel in town and it had survived

it was earthquake proof oh really is that where that was I thought it was yeah cool but um it burned down they

rebuilt it in 1909 and it's still there but the original one did burn down even though it did survive the

earthquake um another kind of fun thing that happened is there was a bank called the bank a lot of the banks I mean they

burned out but the bank of Italy was run by a man named Amadeo Petro Giani and he

was the owner and he took all of the money to his house which was like $2 million like a [ __ ] ton of money he took

it to his house he had some men guard it and he was able to give loans and take

deposits so he was really important in like rebuilding because he knew he knew all of his customers he knew what they

needed he was able to like you know loan money to get more money um and in two

years the bank of Italy was in a new building and kind of ready to go and he pioneered

branching um so he was like one of the first people to like have like branches of his bank like around around the city

and then in the 1920s he um merged with a smaller Bank in Los Angeles and became

the Bank of America which is pretty cool yep I I I so my well not my first job

the longest job I had before we worked together was at Bank of America and so I looked at the history of it was like

wild pretty cool um the um I don't know if you remember but also there was an opera the night before

the earthquake and the singer en enrio Caruso he's the one who saved his signed

picture of Terry Roosevelt that's the thing that he saved but he said I will never return to San Francisco and he

didn't he died you know 20 years later um but he also looked awesome so if you ever want to look up enrio cruso he

looks amazing um some buildings were saved by locals so there was a cathedral

that was saved by people and what they did is one guy climbed to the roof and he tied a rake to a um to a rope lowered

the rake down and they attached a hose to the rake and he pulled it up and soaked the roof so that it wouldn't

catch on fire as fire was kind of coing through the air and like ashes and Embers were flying through the air

people would they'd land on the roof and they would just chop off those shingles you know just to like stop it as much as

they could so a lot of people were able to do that people would soak sheets in wine and put them on their roofs just to

like try to get the the fire to stop and um another building that was saved was

the mint that had all the the gold and like the money in it was saved by a few people who were very invested in in

Saving it um and it was one of the only buildings to survive in like downtown s Francisco um the people were inside

fighting the fire as it kind of came closer and closer and when it ended they you know opened the doors to nothing you

know which was just like crazy they were like in this building ing it and then not even really paying attention and then like everything was gone when they

when they open the doors um so a little bit more about how they actually stopped

the fire cuz it wasn't rain and the winds didn't change like it was stopped but not before it spread so the hydrants

and sewers started to dry up not all of them but a lot of them did and active um

active fire chief doter doy he was in in charge and he was trying to create fire

breaks but they were doing it like absolute wrong way they were using gunpowder and dynamite and they were

only knocking down buildings that were already on fire but what you have to do is be like ahead of

it by a lot yeah knock over the next building so the they're knocking down

buildings that were already on fire so when they ex when they essentially bombed the buildings all of the Embers

and the air would just set the next house on fire so it would just like keep going you know so that really helped

helped it like get bigger and bigger um there was a general it kind of works though well it didn't work no no it no

no if you played out to this end conclusion it would work because if you just did that all night

long eventually you would have destroyed every house thereby extinguishing the fire when it hit the ocean sure sure

sure if everything's gone and there's no fire well there you go so it would have worked congratulations

um that order came from that order came from General Frederick bunston nicknamed

Fearless Freddy he was in the military and he got the military involved right away his Superior General major um gley

Major General gley he was out of town but was slowly coming back but in the meantime this kind of crazy dude

Frederick Funston he did a whole bunch of stuff like he had a um he was the one

who was who said to use Dynamite to only do houses that were already on fire um

he had like finally gotten a message out cuz a lot of messages were not getting out people were like you know obviously

like send want and messages to their family like I remember when there was a earthquake in San Francisco in the 90s

my aunt vienne who lives there called and said we're okay right before the

phones went out you know yeah and we were like so grateful that we she was able to get through to us cuz I remember

I remember calling and she's like there's an earthquake we're okay and then the phones went out and we at least knew she was okay but these people don't

some people will never know what happened to their family and some people are just like waiting for anything so

telegraphs and and mail was free but it took a long time for it to like well it took a while for it to get going um but

they did eventually get you know uh news over to DC Teddy Roosevelt was the

president he asked people to donate to the Red Cross because this was 76 years before FEMA was um spun up so he asked

people to do it to the Red Cross to to be able to contribute Taft with the Secretary of War and he

was you know in in contact with Funston and gy as well so one thing that Fon did

is he did kind of a pseudo a pseudo martial law like it wasn't martial law

he they would like say that later but like it kind of was so the order was anyone who was looting or you know

lighting a stove or a fire in a place they shouldn't should be shot to kill it was a shoot to kill order so a lot of

military people came over and they had they were fully armed and being like

pretty aggressive they would like yell at people who if they had like a candle it they would um force people to help

with certain things and it's like they would have probably helped anyway they didn't need to do it like at gunpoint you know but I I am in favor of like

when everything's fcked beyond all belief dealing with like basic human

greed or criminality or whatever it's like yeah just [ __ ] shoot him like we we have way any normal bodies to bury we

don't [ __ ] need to Y that [ __ ] anymore like yeah I'm sure and I'm sure officially there were very few deaths by

gunshot but there are probably more like you said like I'm sure that happen more often some and like one of them um they

killed a Red Cross worker by accident you know like people were riled up and scared and so the wrong time to have a

gun um but people you know they were kind of forced to help which I also again think is kind of okay like they

would have helped anyway like what else are you going to do like help rebuild so um there was a fireboat called the

fireboat Leslie and they tried to get water from the sea but it was like the peers are wood it was like hard to get

to them they did some pretty incredible things by like coupling hoses together and some of the hoses would go for over

a mile from the ocean to the houses and that saved like a part of the city as

well um they use sewer water which is gross but like you know whatever you can get I mean it's 1900s

like everything probably smell like [ __ ] anyways exactly I mean it was like I think one of the first things in the book that I read the longest minute was

like everybody was wearing hats because you had to wear hats because it like there's constantly like [ __ ] in there

you know like there's everyone's burning coal everyone's all these things so like

yeah like no one smell cre um but another thing they did is they stopped liquor sales almost immediately and they

broke all the bottles of booze that they could there was The Distillery that had cuz they don't want people to like get drunk and freak out but also I'm like

if anything preserve the liquor and like ration it and like literally just give it out to people like why would you I

know it's the opposite I know um there was a Distillery that made that made

whiskey and they had like a 100 barrels of whiskey and they were like excuse me um we basically have bombs like we have

this whiskey like it is going to catch on fire it's going to explode is that is that possible though because I was

thinking about when you said the wine thing was like oh Ever Clear like it's not flammable

because the liquid content the O2 H2O content has to be so

significantly higher the flammability of the LI liquor in there right that's a

good question and I don't know so please email us dipod gmail.com if you know because I was thinking that too but I

was like wine must have less of an alcohol content and then like whiskey and like vodka and like hard liquor

feels like that could be flamable more like isn't that what a moltov cocktail is I don't know all the things but

anyway they moved all the barrels of whiskey to a place that had already been burned so that it was like out of the way um talkit about I I literally I

literally reached over while you were like talking and I was I I typed what into Google and I was going to follow

with what is in a Molotov cocktail and then I was like that is for sure going to flag me for the FBI so I'm going go

ahead and change uh if anybody just happens to have that information handy or willing to sacrifice our search

history to the GT no I think it's just I think it's just booze and then

a rag well it's got to be more specific than that it can't like what is like it can't just be like a my ti right no but

it's like but like a margarita no yes yes in a salt room my

Molotov cocktail little wedge of lime be so cute

that be such a cute bottle oh I guess it mostly has like gas in it probably

are M 12 cocktails legal is this question of course they're not legal you're stupid you were stupid if you're

asking that question I mean the components are legal if we figure out what's in it yeah but

you can bomb someone's house yeah but you can own a moloto it's like owning a I own a molot I have

bottles I have Rags I have gas in my car you know we got to stop recording our

crimes anyway okay anyway so another thing talk about last week was like the

relationship that the Chinese Americans had to the rest of the city um people in Chinatown didn't want to leave because

they were afraid that they W you know they were going to get deported and they were right to be afraid um they had to

if they didn't have their papers like they were definitely like in trouble and a lot of people during the rebuilding

wanted to just like not have a Chinatown and ban them from coming back to San Francisco proper um but that was ended

up being overruled and they were able to come back and and build the CH town that is is there today people were definitely like scared and then also of course like

the soldiers who are just there in under martial law are like raiding people's homes so they raided Chinatown which is

like bummer to yeah um people started to make

their own fire breaks they had their own like committees there were like people trying to figure out what to do because the communication is kind of all over

the place everyone is like sleeping in Parks it gets really really foggy people are getting sick sleeping on the ground

they have like one blanket that's something that happened a lot in the other ones we talked about too like outbreaks of chalera and the refugee camps things like that um everyone

though is helping like if people are working they're working so people are like you know they're helping in bakeries they did not run out of food

they ended up they were able to like you know feed um a lot of people everyone was pitching in um at one point someone

had like a like there were like 2,000 chickens in like a I don't know chicken farm that they like let loose and

everybody was like grabbing chickens which I think is hilarious because also I would not know what to do with a chicken with a

chicken I mean you you you you cut it head off right feathers yeah and

then yeah you cut its head off um you plug its

feathers I guess they didn't have Fried Chicken back then so like you probably have just like they always had fried

chicken um either way people are pitching in kind of helping each other

um another person who is a hero from this time is Lieutenant Frederick Freeman he was um on a boat and him and

his men stopped the fire from spreading on day three they went to like a big portion of of the city and were able to

able to save it he worked kind of on his own with no direction and um so he

really you know really saved a lot of people saved a lot of property and later

in his life during World War I he was the captain of a ship that was torpedoed and then he started he was so upset

about it he started drinking and going into addiction ended up being dishonorably discharged and kind of living like a vagrant lifestyle but in

1941 before he died FDR pardoned him and gave him an honorable discharge because of all the work that he did during the

earthquake and other things he had done before that but he had like felt so guilty about being torpedoed um but so

people are working together and they are working really hard like 80% of the city is destroyed but the mail was working by

Friday which is a big deal because it was like Tuesday to Friday the mail was working people were able to you know

talk to their to tell their their family around the country around the world they were safe and the fire ended up stopping

because you know the people stopped it they did the correct fire braks they it didn't rain it wasn't anything like that

it just like they ended up stopping and also obviously it ran out of [ __ ] to burn because it was like it burned most

of the city um in the aftermath there was no water so we just talked about this like for bathing so people were

getting sick people had to dig poop holes in their backyards you know like it was like a pretty bad like sanitation

issue for a while um people were giving donations but some of the donations had strings attached like there was a part

of the city that did not have cable cars and the cable car company was like we'll donate you know $100,000 if we can build

a car in this place where we couldn't have one before things like that a little bit of corruption happened um the

judge who was the judge of the the Wong k Kim Arc case that we talked about last time he was actually the president of

the American Red Cross at this time so he was able to like he like invested a lot and like helped in um in San

Francisco the um like the Empress of China tried to donate money and the people were like no which is so racist

and dumb take it yeah stupid um like I hate in a movie when someone's like I am too moral to take this check I'm like

I'll take that check thank you yeah I'm kidding you know like you're dumb I have no principles yeah um people were given

tents some people had insurance so some insurance companies paid out a lot of the ones that were based overseas are on

the East Coast never really paid out what they were supposed to pay out cuz a lot of it and I don't know if I'm sure

you remember this from owning a home in California but like you have to have separate earthquake insurance from your regular home insurance and so people had

to prove that their house was destroyed by the fire and not by the earthquake

yeah you know believe it you know it was like when I was living in Florida and I knew people who were homeowners in

Florida and they had to get separate hurricane or Food Insurance from everything else and yeah it was yeah

expensive yeah yeah so a lot of people ended up living in little housing camps

so they would build these like little 200 square foot houses and then you could move them later so you would like put down a down payment and then end up

being able to move the house to maybe where your original land was or moving it um all the little houses were blue

because the Army had extra blue paint which is kind of fun um there was another another story where like the

Army had all these boots that were the wrong color and the people didn't want to wear them so they were in a storage

room so they just gave them to everybody which is also cute that's awesome yeah so so yes so this is kind of where I

stopped my research about like the rebuilding and such but you know they rebuilt better than before um but I

think that the thing that is so scary about this is just like one disaster after the other like a fire Could Happen

anywhere but like that earthquake was crazy and it's going to happen again

you know like California is not safe we're going to have other earthquakes so I also this reminded me um my friend

Morgan sent me a article about that tower that you had talked about in San Francisco that's falling or tilting the

Millennium Tower so I read an article about it it it's called the Millennium Tower and it's on Mission Street which

is one of the streets that was like totally destroyed in the Mission District and it is like six inches off

and like one the lady that in the article that she sent me like figured it out because like she was like doing a putt putt in her apartment and her three

[ __ ] million apartment and all of the golf balls would like go into one corner I

mean okay yeah you you know what never mind I was what I was well because my

house is also like not level but like wait you're like but you're on the first floor you're on I know exactly it's

different when you're like 40 stories in the air I get it yep it's different yeah like if my house was tilted a little bit

me I'm on I'm on bedrock I'm not worried about it but like this

this like gigantic Tower um is oh my God it's crazy also

it's funny to think that $3 million in San Francisco that's probably like a starter condo for any anyone who lives

there I cannot imagine like so it's it's um it's 58 floors the whole building um

but they have 60 they say they have 60 floors because they skipped 13 which

happens and 44 because people think the fours are bad luck have you heard that before yeah I don't that but um Jesus

Christ I'd be so [ __ ] mad if I bought a $3 million car fix it no

it's like they're trying to figure out how to fix it what's it called Millennium

uhhuh it makes you kind of want to throw up a little bit like even it makes me it

makes me so and like so nervous I mean I don't know maybe maybe in like 3,000

years your home will be like the Leaning Tower of Pisa and there'll be a landmark

for people to visit but also like there's no way that if there's an

earthquake that isn't topping toppling over literally immediately I know if I was a neighbor I'd be like I want a

refund yeah and you can't you can't you know like oh God I hate it so

much I really like honestly my hands hurt you know like you get nervous and your hands hurt talking about like I just hate it so much I

don't know what to do um so yeah I mean I I I I know that you know this it was a

good good time to like Industrial Revolution time is a good time to start

over on a city so they could build better because like they had done things like you know we should have stronger

construction we should not build everything out of wood but like they hadn't retroactively put those laws in so if you have to start over at you can

start over better um in some cases they did some cases they didn't people just wanted some place to live like really

quickly you know those camps were open for years people trying to figure out where to go like in all these disasters

rich people can figure it out but poor people they have [ __ ] nothing you know what are they supposed to do but um

now there just seems to be a lot of tall buildings in San Francisco which makes me nervous man this this Millennial thing I

hate it so much I was in New York so the the week that this was 13 years ago but

the week that we had our wedding reception in New York City we had to move it because there was a hurricane so there was like hurricane times so we had

to cancel our reception do it a couple months later it was fine but that week there was also an earthquake and I was

on the 38th floor of a building and I felt my desk go blop looop and I was

like [ __ ] yeah yeah it's interesting too because California has like probably

some of the strictest regulatory guidelines for building things and you think that like

how was this able to happen I mean in 1906 or this Millennium

Tower no the Millennium Tower also 100% it is the it's got to be like a developer's worst nightmare to have like

a bunch of millionaires living in their building when your building like [ __ ] up really badly because like they're

going to sue you into Oblivion and it sounds like that's what they're doing right now but they're not going to like

what are they like the the woman in the article I read I'll share the article but like a like Tech bro bought the

apartment above her for like $15 million and he was like I don't care that it's tilting like the view and I'm like you're the worst I mean that would be

the dream to be that rich we would we Taylor you might say he's the worst but we would both love to be in that

position I would not I wouldn't I would not want to live there yeah I definitely would want to live there scary I'm G to

know from that guys just just live on level land I have no idea how we got to this conclusion in the San Francisco

fire fire episode but that is my takeway I'm I think we both we both live in one

story houses and I'm happy that we do amen please don't move um sweet so that

is the S we got San Francisco we got Chicago wrapped up I'm sure there's plenty plenty more fires I know well I'm

going to start doing um women's History Month next week and I'm very excited to have some things that some fun stories

but um if you know women's history you know there is a very important fire that

I will talk about but I was going to do it next week but I'm just so tired of talking about fires that I'm going to maybe do it the week after uh good I don't know what that is

I'm sure if you know you know but I'll tell you later I will probably know after you tell me because you know that

I don't you know me I don't connect dots real quick it takes a little bit for to marinade and so I'm sure I'll I I'll

know when you tell me so okay cool um but yeah that was awesome thanks for sharing Taylor we got our episodes in

for the week sorry for the late start per usual it was my fault um but we got them taken care of I I re-released

Mutiny on the Bonnie today so there's something out there enjoy Mutiny um cool

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those fun things from Morgan were were fun and um she gave me some other good ideas of things to cover and how people

have sent us Instagram messages of like some true crimey things so make sure you make sure you see them love it awesome we'll go ahead and cut

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