Get out your winter jackets and an extra $55,000 - we're climbing Mt. Everest! You will also need a lot of time off work, some tents, extra oxygen, and an unparalleled disdain for your loved ones. Farz takes us from Sir Edmund Hilary's historic climb (maybe there's another unconfirmed first guy) to some of the most famous dead bodies slowly rotting away on the path to the summit. We ended with, if people want to --- sure, they can do whatever, but we would never. How about you?
Get out your winter jackets and an extra $55,000 - we're climbing Mt. Everest! You will also need a lot of time off work, some tents, extra oxygen, and an unparalleled disdain for your loved ones. Farz takes us from Sir Edmund Hilary's historic climb (maybe there's another unconfirmed first guy) to some of the most famous dead bodies slowly rotting away on the path to the summit.
We ended with, if people want to --- sure, they can do whatever, but we would never. How about you?
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which podcast episode I just um when you when you took a break for two seconds
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lve Murder She Wrote This is what I'm talking about this is how fun this is um also happy St
Patrick's Day we didn't say that to each other oh yeah happy it'll pass by them we're going to a bar um my my daughter's
friend's dad is in a band and it's like gonna be a cute like Dad band and we're gonna go watch them play so it's gonna be sweet I think that the kids are gonna
like it yeah get yourself a Guinness or several guinnesses and have a good time I'm gonna have so many guinnesses oh God
I also have other bad news about me if you want to hear it let's hear it I officially have pre-diabetes so I have
to like talk to my doctor and start eating no carbs again and potentially
getting on insulin and I'm bummed um well it's pre-diabetes so you don't
have to do insulin yet right not yet but like I could to like try to like get it under control I have to talk to the
doctor still but um it's just like because I had diabetes when I was pregnant it was like kind of bound to
happen you know um so aren't all those weight loss drugs weren't they designed
for diabetes yes so I'm also wondering if I should take OIC and weigh 120 pounds
again but I don't I don't think I should do that I mean if it's if it's controls
your diabetes and prevents you from being diabetic then yeah for sure you should that yeah we'll see what happens we'll see what they say but yeah it's
been a rough week man getting older is great isn't it [ __ ] sucks yes sucks
um but anywh who uh I'm gonna get into my topic uh should I should we do a
guessing game yeah good it is based on on
a geographic formation that was created through the
process which you have covered an island and has killed hundreds of people
an island with a monster on it a
tsunami is it aam it's a it's an island with a monster on it you you got
it no I am going to be covering Mount Everest oh fun but I'm G
to cover it in like an interesting way because I think Mount ever has been done to death and it's like kind of boring to talk about at this point but I'm going
to cover it in three parts okay so what I'm going to do is I'm going to cover the history of climbing Everest I'm
going to cover what it is like to climb Everest today and I'm going to discuss
what y'all really here for which is kind of the disaster story SP climbing Everest that's it cool that's kind wrap this up so EX
let's get into the history of Everest itself so uh obviously we all know Mount Everest is the tallest mountain in the
world uh it sits at just over 29,000 ft which is somewhere around 5.5 miles
above sea level um one fun fact I discovered which is good to know is it's
actually not the tallest mountain if you measure it from its base so the tallest mountain in the world measured from its
base you were kind of close to it's actually in Hawaii it's called Mana Kia
and it's 30,6 600 ft so about so about like 1,600 ft taller than Mount Everest
but that's if you measure it from the base in the base is 17,000 feet underwater so oh sure sure sure sure
sure sure sure sure sure well isn't the base of everything underwater I mean if you go that far
into the logic of it then yes then technically if you measure Mount Everest from where the Marana trenches then it
is very tall what about that part of the earth that's Hollow where the monsters live where all the monsters are where I
don't know so so for context uh that height 29,000 feet for Everest that's
only 6,000 feet short of how high a b 737 flies I it's pretty it's pretty tall
yeah um it runs through the border between Nepal and Tibet China kind of
depends on how you feel about tiet autonomy um but that's kind of geographically where it's located uh
locally it's been in named uh so basically it it didn't really have a
naming con agreed upon naming convention in the local local communities that surround it um and it was it wasn't
until 1865 that we actually started calling it Mount Everest the reason we called the Mount Everest was that the
Brits had this Chief surveyor who was responsible for kind of surveying the entire Globe um and then the new Chief
surveyor decided to name this mountain after the former Chief surveyor and that
guy's name was Sir George Everest so they called him Mount Everest that's what we call Everest that is dumb I
didn't know that to his credit so George Everest was actually alive when this happened he died like five years after
this um to his credit he actually was like no don't name this thing after me first off it doesn't translate into
anything meaningful to the local communities and also in the local Hindi language that the Neal speak you can't
really say it that easy and so he was like just call it something different but they're like we're just going to go with not Everest so oh well good for him
for acknowledging that yeah yeah um so climbing Everest was a Fascination since
its Discovery obviously in many ways doing so was essentially a suicide mission for anyone who's been to Denver
as an example Denver's one mile above sea level so Mexico City by the way but
when you're in Denver yeah when you're in Denver you have 83% of the breathable
air you would find at sea level so you have a 17% diminish oxygen level oxygen
concentration at one mile up for contracts I have a stupid joke that I saw on on the internet because
then I just thought through that and I was like well yeah Mexico like doesn't use miles so like why would they even say that but there was a joke that I
heard where some guy said to my wife she just left me for being unamerican I saw it coming from a kilometer
away that is a good one I I might reuse that one um so Denver 83% Brea air uh
Everest obviously a lot higher you get 33% of the air you get a sea level so uh
that causes a lot of problems obviously not being able to breathe is a really tough issue but it also causes hypoxia
oxygen sturbation of the brain it causes edemas in the lungs there's a whole there's like so many ways you can die on
Everest that it is that's just one of them oh my God the other fun one is I
didn't know this but apparently if you go high enough into the air you hit what's called called the
jet stream which I think I've heard through mology reports before we talked about the jet I'm sorry we talked about
it with the volcano as well because part of the problem is when the volcano Ash has the jet stream that's when it goes over the whole worldwhere it's like
everywhere yeah so they've recorded wins in the jet stream on the peak of Everest
at 175 miles per hour Jesus Christ and then after that the weather up there is
somewhere around3 degrees fight it's bad it is really bad to I hate it I hate
everything about it those are all things I hate yeah yeah so regardless of that people
keep trying to climb it so let's get into the first documented version of this that happened um in 1953 so this
was done by a New Zealander named uh sir Edmond Hillary and a nepes sherpa named
Tenzing norg it was around 11:30 a.m. that they summited Mount Everest I think
it's very romantic to think like these two guys just like were hanging out and and tting together and doing this that's not how this works like this is like
team of people that come together to kind of help make this happen I have a dumb question sure I don't even want to
ask it like I guess how do you know that you're at the top like AR like is it just like so super clear that it's at
the top because I feel like when I climb mountains here sometimes like obviously like they're not that tall but they heke of a mountain and you're like oh there's
one taller right there or like whatever like I guess do they go on like a a prescribed path um so they they created
the path that is now the prescribed path there's a north and south face and that's why we have North face is a brand now but that's most
popular that's fun but I I I try to remember the exact name of this thing
but it was called the um the British did a thing called the
Great uh Chief survey or great survey I forgot what it was exactly but basically
there was this massive project that the British um that Britain took on to essentially
survey all the major geographical territories under the kingdom and um not
actually yeah it was kind of under the kingdom because it was part of partially India as well um and they
basically were able to from a distance figure out how tall Mount Everest was that essentially like where the peak was
and how that Peak was the tallest place on Earth and so that happened many many years earlier it was like 1850s or
something that we actually learned that it was the the tallest spot on Earth but that's how they knew this is the peak
like we did the that's the tallest spot go to that spot basically M so um so yes they were the first ones
to technically step on the mountain face I will say like At first I had like these weird Colonial thoughts about Ed
edman Hillary and then the more you learn about him the more like this guy was kind of an awesome dude like he was I know it's so interesting
because like it gave him the opportunity to do what he was wanting to do right yeah
um wait what what year are we in again 1953 wow yeah I have a I was in how long
did it how long it was I thought it was like 1850 yeah I
know but but there is some theories that it was actually summited 29 years
earlier so oh I forgot to mention this but apparently the date that this happened was like a few days before
Queen Elizabeth was going to be going to go through a coronation and become Queen and
this news got to her like right before she was about to go through a coordination so that the first thing he
did as at her coordination was announced that the UK has summited Mount Everest so it was like a big hoop the hoopla but
cool there is a theory that 29 years earlier in 1924 the peak had actually been summited
but was not documented so that year there was a team that
included two guys named George mallerie Andrew Irvine and the team attempted it Summit twice um before uh a third
attempt was made those two times it failed because in one situation one of the climbers the lining of his throat
peeled off because of the cold and he was choking on his own throat shoot I
hate I hate that that's the worst thing I've ever heard and the other one went completely blind for three days from
snow blindness so that's why those two failed but malie and Irvine decided to
attempt a third attempt on this Expedition and on this attempt they were somewhere in the 26,000 ft range which
is called the death zone um and that's when the weather picked up they decided to camp overnight before trying it again
in the morning and they never made it back so we don't know what actually happened but what we do know is that in
1999 1999 so what is that 75 years after they die George mallerie's body was
found at 26,700 feet and it's weird his body he had a puncture wound in his
skull his right foot was completely shattered and his leg was broke what they assume happened was he
was trying to come back down and so he was doing a controlled slide down the side of the mountain with his ice pick
behind him kind of serving as like a a break essentially from him going all the way down too quick and what they think
happened was that he probably skipped that thing on a rock going kind of fast and it bounced up and he hit himself in
the head puncturing his head with this thing and then he slid all the way down and broke his leg broke everything and
the the neur neurological theory on what happened was that he was probably dead before he even finished going all the
way down the mountain essentially um my mom yesterday just told me a crazy yes story her brother owns a boat in Florida
and they were boating through like a place that had low hanging trees with a friend and a friend got a stick from a
tree through his head on the boat like not through like a already available hole like just like threw his skull and
my uncle had to take him to the hospital obviously and he ended up staying with him for like several months because he had like rehabilitate but he didn't
die so he almost gave himself a labotomy essentially yeah yeah is that crazy it's
crazy yeah yeah I guess your skull's softer than you would think um so yes
1989 is when they found this guy's body and some people reach a conclusion that based on some of the evidence from his
body that he must have been the first one to Summit Mount Everest the reason was that he was found with no oxygen he
was not wearing his um his goggles is so it means he was coming down at night and
also well the reason he also didn't have oxygen because when you're coming down you're trying to offload as much as possible so you get down as quickly as
possible and so the oxygen tanks way to shitload and that's why you want to get rid of them but he also had carried a
picture of his wife Ruth for the entire trip because his goal was when I get to
the summit I want to put the picture of my wife on The Summit and M everybody knew this they all talked about it it
was a known thing he did not have the picture with him they like he must have already done it yeah yeah but it wasn't
documented so the other guy Irvine his body's never been found and he's the one who actually had the cameras on him that
would have showed that they actually summoned and they haven't found his body yet so they don't know and so as of now
it's still Norgate and Hillary who summoned it first you got to write [ __ ] down like if you're doing anything
you're about to die like write it in a note and put it in several parts of your body yeah well he boot he was probably
suffering from hypoxia um so he probably didn't know what was going on by time he dead so let's get to climbing Evers
today so climbing Evers today kind of sounds more annoying than anything there
are no guides or tour companies that conduct these expectations wait there are no guides or tour companies I don't
know why I wrote that there's a million guys in tour cheing companies that do these Expeditions and
the pricing is kind of all over the map so the average I found was somewhere around $50,000 to pay to try to Summit
Everest you're not you're summitting is not guaranteed most people a lot of people don't but um I saw Ranger
somewhere in the $30,000 range I saw one that was $200,000 to do this Expedition um the
$200,000 one sounded more like a luxury vacation than like a heroing track that company is called f f Fon Bach
Adventures so if anybody wants to book a $200,000 expedition to Everest then you can do it for through the feron buck
Adventures um they are not paid sponsors of this podcast could you imagine because we
know that your your listeners are the kind of folks who spent $200,000 to um
to clim whatevers if you listen to this and you have done that please let us know because we' love to know how you found our podcast and can you write us a
check um who are you so there is a way to do it cheaper on your own so
basically go without an expedition I'm going to tell you why you shouldn't do sign up that option later on which it should be clear I know why
yeah but in that situation you can expect to pay somewhere around $20,000 most of that seems to be like in fees
that you pay to the nepes government so $111,000 is just for the permit to be able to get to base camp in clim Everest
um anyways all that to say that you are then also going to run an additional
cost of $25,000 or so on food and gear so you can actually climb up to the
mountain uh some places tack on additional $5,000 for a private cook uh
and apparently most places advise that you do this because like you spend so much time on the hiking that trying to
make food is kind of impossible after you're done how does a cook do it then well that's all they do though
because like you're not assembly they don't hike no they don't hike they don't assemble and disassemble tents like I'm
going to explain like what the actual process is of getting up to creating tents like it is arduous doing it and so
you have somebody who's dedicated to sitting inside a tent chopping cauliflowers I don't know what they do but cooking something so just chopping
cauliflowers on whatever it's no big deal just all day long all you do is just chop cauliflowers so the Trek
itself uh includes walking for about 6 to8 hours a day in negative3 degree
weather for about two weeks straight so timing wise you have to acclimate to reduce oxygen so you can't just run up
the mountain like you can do it a lot faster if you didn't have to acclimate but you have to acclimate right so you have to stop at these different
checkpoints or what's called base camps to give your time give your body time to
adjust are those permanent so base camp there's two base
camps that are semi-permanent so they're they're transitory so people like if you look at
pictures of base camp and everus it's not like 110 it's like it's like a refugee camp of people yeah and
they pack their stuff up and they go and then then other people show up and so it's like a it's like a transitory thing like there's not like a permanent
station there but it's just like where base camp happens to be it's about 177,000 feet up yeah so that was other
part of this I want to mention was in addition to walking and climbing you're also constantly assembling a dis stumbling a tent nearly every day they
you're not using the time to acclimate to the complete Journey takes about six weeks long it starts in a nepi
city called lucka when you land at this airport
called the Tenzing Hillary airport which is absolutely terrifying it's considered one of the most dangerous airports in
the world it is car so Edmond Hillary is the one responsible for building this thing it's carved into the side of the
mountain at an elevation of nearly 10,000 fet if you look at pictures of it you'll see that if anything goes wrong
during takeoff all you do is FL go straight
down for two miles until you like explode into the side of the mountain like it's terrifying um from that
airport you go to base camp like I said base camp is going to be 177,000 ft and from there you spend about the next four
weeks or so going up and down the mountain putting down new camps putting provisions and food and oxygen tanks
there doing all that stuff further and further up well you go up and down no you just
just going up yeah you're going you're going up so you're going so you start a base camp you go up you stop at a
certain elevation you establish a new base camp then you go up establish another base camp you go up establish
another Base Cam and then you get to like kind of like the dep Zone and from what it sounds like when you're in the death zone you kind of have to go all
the way to the top and then you have to get back down to under sub 26,000 fet um and that's usually where people end up
end up dying but yeah it's like a four-week long process of doing this if you decide that you want to climb
Everest you're going to basically join a group of somewhere around 8 800 people who are also trying to Summit the mountain every year those are the people
trying to Summit those are the craziest of the crazy people there's about 500
people a day that show up at base camp just to hike basically they're trying to go 17,000 feet it's already arduous
enough they're going to go back down so that's usually what you're looking at that seems fine yeah um there are
currently about 33 bodies on Everest and they're going to stay there because trying to reclaim these bodies is
another suicide mission so we're going to get into of the fun gory stories that persist around it so I'm break this down
into several things one I'm going to break down to like famous deaths on Everest one I'm going to break down to
uh most deaths in a single day and then the last is going to be like the particularly creepiest story I heard
about was what happened on Everest before so some the more famous deaths there
three of them that I'm going to highlight I'm GNA do the previous one of the last so green boots um this is
someone that everybody's heard of green boots if you I'm trying to I'll try to pain a visual picture of this it's a guy
laying on his side his legs are elevated and it looks like his head and lower
body or upper body are kind of like angled downward in this little Kass area
so we don't know who this is we assume yeah we assume that this guy is
someone named man sang P Dar sure it's
totally nailed it but we don't we don't know for sure the reason we think it might be this guy is that we know that
Swang was in a 1996 disaster on Everest that's when a blizzard rolled in and
killed eight people and nobody's been able to positively identify this body
how can that be have they not tried like how can that
be I don't know if they I don't know if they've tried or not yeah we don't know how how can you have a picture of this dead body as close as I'm seeing this
picture of this dead body and not have like checked his pocket R through his pockets yeah I don't know that's good point I don't know
well I'll I'll describe the last story maybe that'll explain why people don't do this um long story short is
that the the quote I heard is that trying to keep yourself alive on Everest
at trying to Summit is an extreme Challenge trying to think about anything else going on around you is almost
impossible because all your focus is trying to stay alive so um but there
have been some some efforts there so for example um sorry going back to who this guy is the reason they assume it's this
guy is because there was um there was he was spotted late May so the blizzard hit
like May 9th late May was the first time somebody was trying to Summit and they spotted this body there they're like the
only thing that's happened has been this blizzard so it's got to be this guy this is the one one white guy on account up for there's other the that he's another
person as well but that that was like disproven so look like you were to say something
um no that that was my question was like they must have a list of people who could be
because people on account it for right right right exactly exactly so um in
2014 his body was basically just like kicked over and relocated to fall down
the side they're like they're trying to keep these dead bodies out of VI of climbers
and they just like rolled them away they like just do the minimal effort possible get this thing out of the way and they
did that there's another person there named Sleeping Beauty that's her nickname her
real name is Francis AR sentio she died in May of 1998 while attempting to
Summit the summit Everest with her husband on their way down the two somehow separated I keep picturing just
like crazy snowfall and like you just going blind from like snow hitting you from every angle while you're freezing and that's probably how you end up
getting separated but she was separated from her husband her husband's name is Serge and serge made it to base camp um
his wife Francis did not another team of climbers came across Francis and they tried to carry her down before they were
like this is too much this is too difficult we have to leave you like that's how it is it's it's so do or die
up there it sounds like um W so she's just laying there at her coat yeah yeah
so they left her on the mountain and and witnessed uh witness to say that her husband was ascending past them as they
were going down to base camp presumably to go find his wife uh she ended up staying alive for about another day
before dying of exposure frostbite hypoy all of it a year later Serge's body was
discovered having died from a fall trying to climb to get to Francis uh she was left there uh so there's pictures of
her have you you seen this I'm looking at a picture of her in her purple coat just laying there yeah yeah that's it
she was left laying on her side for about 9 years um before again another
group of climbers um just push her off the side because they were like this is
we need to stop we don't want to look at this anymore basically wait so the first climers that tried to bring her down was she still alive or no she was still
alive yeah oh no yeah but they were like it's too much
like yeah so um I mean you're carrying oxygen tanks like these no I know I know
but that's just terrible yeah yeah so the creepiest one to me is don't look
rough yet I want to get your reaction when look her up her name is the German woman well her nickname is the German
woman her real name is hannalore schmatz uh and this one's like the creepiest to me mostly because of what she looks like
so scary so she was a German woman uh she died Everest obviously she retired
from the climb and basically the Sherpas were telling her we can't stop we have
there's there's Windows of time that you're supposed to make it between camps like it's all planned out so that you're
not out in the open when the weather and the winds become the worst and she was like I need to stop and rest the sh was
like please don't please don't please don't she did it anyways the sherpa to his credit stayed
with her long enough to where he actually suffered from frost fight and lost some fingers as a result of this but her last words for the sherpa left
was just asking her for water she said water water and then she died um that was on October 2nd of
1979 she died sitting up and her body froze basically in that posture on the
southern route up the mountain so pictures of her she has this like a mummified face it looks really
scary yeah look her up now oh a lot of these are tell me I shouldn't look at
it view image oh God is that creepy that
is not oh my God her face looks like the most terrifying face I've ever seen in
my whole entire [ __ ] life so what they were saying was before her body
decomposed and her flesh kind of turned whatever whatever that is oh my
God they said that her eyes were wide open so you so scary it's so freaking scary dude
this is on like the main trailer this is not like she's not like hidden like she was on you're walking by these bodies as
you're going up to the summit it's like crazy this I I I are I'm literally right
now having nightmares and I'm not even asleep but the way we can describe the way she looks so she's leaning against a
backpack in that picture um and yeah the last the last time they saw her she was
like wide open her eyes were wide open and she was just like Frozen in Time like right there and then obviously you
see what you see now which her face just [ __ ] peeling off oh my god well that
was worse than I ever could have imagined apparently her body is also not there anymore but that wasn't because people moved her I think that people
were too scared to move her I read so many reports of people coming up to her body and being like this has to be like a tent or something like oh my God
that's a woman that is the scariest thing to see on a hike that is the scary yeah you
turn around if you see that on the hike just turn around but apparently the winds are pretty harsh there and so her
body ends up ended up getting hit by some wind and just tumbling the other direction so she's she's still on the mountain she's still somewhere like that
same body in that exact same posture Frozen exactly like that is somewhere on that
mountain are there any animals there no right so there are there not at the
elevation that she would be at but there down lower down the mountain under base camp there are like Yaks and stuff like
that they found um one species of black spider that was able to survive like
above base camp but that's it like that's all there is like I I don't know that thing eats so um on the deadliest
Expedition this would be an avalanche that occurred in 2015 so this is pretty straightforward it was April 25th 2015 a
7.8 magn earthquake hit Nepal was [ __ ] huge and that triggered a
massive avalanche on Everest the Avalanche essentially killed 24 people and injured 61 others so like again most
of those people their bodies are still on the on like they're all there like everybody's still there so um the
creepiest story in my opinion was actually a guy named David Sharp and you're probably G to recognize this one because this happened fairly recently in
May of 2006 and it got like a ton of media attention so this was a Brit trying to Summit Everest and he tried
doing so before he tried in 2003 and failed to Summit in that endeavor he he
eventually suffered uh some frostbite that led to him losing some toes in 2003
he tried again in 2004 but for reasons that like feel like stupid to me he was
really anti- using supplementary oxygen his take on it was if you use
supplementary oxygen then it's just a hike but it's not a challenge if you don't but it's like but your brain
your brain doesn't know that your organs don't know that your organs just know that they're not getting oxygen so he
tried again so in 2006 he decided to do it unguided so he went without a sherper
without a guy without an expedition party that he was joining and on that attempt he got to about 28,000 ft which
is exactly where green boots is and he sat down in that Kass next to him and
just like was shaking and just like sitting there like un bble to continue on it is assumed that due to the lack of
oxygen because of the lack of having the Sol metal tanks with him it's assumed
that he suffered from altitude sickness which can result in swelling of the brain fluid building up in the lungs
confusion like a general hangover feeling and add to that the fact that it was also the coldest night of the Season
that night and others around him mostly assumed that he wasn't going to make it
so about 30 to 40 people walked right by David as he was like dying on this hill
next to or this Kass next to Green roots and they didn't help nobody helped him
um the media in general is pretty hard on them but like I said one Climer said that uh that at 8,000 meters high it's
incredibly hard to keep yourself alive much less keep somebody else alive and so nobody right and it's like it sucks
because like it's not there ability that he's an idiot yeah yeah and and you know
one thing I read well two things one is Edmond Hillary himself was incredibly
critical of the hiking Community saying summoning isn't as important as saving someone's life which I would agree with
um but then his own mom also putting themselves at risk yeah they putting themselves at risk and his own mom was
like I don't blame them for not helping him um but it's also worth noting that the general theory now is that he
probably would have died anyway so what probably would have happened is the lack of oxygen would have already damaged his organs in his brain um what probably
would happened if they gave him oxygen was a they would have risked their own lives and B he probably would have just
got into base game and died anyways that's probably what would have happened because he was like so hurt yeah exactly
so that's prevailing through as far as as far as that that guy's concerned but yeah people were still climbing people
are still going up to Everest apparently it's not even considered the most intense hike out there out of the large
What's called the the 8 kers which is 8,000 meter and up um mountains K2 is
presumably more difficult and more challenging as a mountain climber to actually get up on top of but um yeah
people are still doing it people are still dying on it and I assume they're going to keep doing it it does feel so
much less scary to me than trying to go down to like the Marana trench or the Titanic or something yeah I mean like
did you watch the deepest breath no it's it's like documentary about people who do like the like deep diving without air
and they dive so deep that SCU divers can't save them because SCU divers have to like go up slowly um and they do they
do like one deep breath and they dive all the way down and then they like prove that they didn't go up and people die all the time and it's
terrible also a sport I don't need to be a part of yeah know I remember do that I
um was also so I know people who didn't die so I feel like I told you this before this is so stupid but I when I
was painting my guest bathroom I watched two Mount Everest movies whenever I'm in there I think about Mount Everest but I watched like the dramatization and the
documentary do you remember that guy in the 90s who had had to grow a nose on his forehead yeah yeah that guy um I I
remember when he was on the cover of people with like his his black nose that was like rotting off from frostbite and
they they grew him a nose on his forehead and twisted it down I remember that yeah remember yeah
you're right it was it was they cut it here and they s it all yeah wow yeah um
that was like a thing yeah man it's um very dangerous and it's such a weird
rich person sport right does anyone who are these people so a lot of
them yeah so so there's a lot of people who fall in the category of like Physicians and lawyers and business
people there's a lot of Engineers that get into stuff like this there the the 2015 Avalanche killed like a pretty
well-known engineer he was a executive at Google in charge of like their ex program um I don't even know if that's
still around but um so so it's that it's that caliber of person right it's it's like you have to be rich to get
into this it's like there's no poor people into a polo or like yachting
right like yeah but but I guess it's like I mean how much money does Nepal make from
it yeah yeah I mean look the sheras like yeah like the Shera like I mean it is a it is a huge industry there um and so
it's probably like a net positive overall for them despite the fact they have to look at dead bodies constantly but um are they like are they
like it's something about are they all the same are the Sherpas all like from the same group of people like have are
they able to handle the High Altitude better than everyone else you know like people not from that area like they're
from there so they're like used to it so that helps them I'm sure yeah so part of reading about David's situation was they
mentioned how what he was trying to do would have been a challenge for even a
sherpa so they rank it that way it's like a Shera just like is Easy Breezy my
life is on this Fountain whatever um but yeah so they're they're much more acclimated to it yeah I mean their
airport starts at 10,000 feet oh what's the name of the airport again I'm gonna google it Tenzing Hillary airport yeah
like At first at first I was like when I started like thinking about this I was like God these people are idiots and like Hillary is probably terrible and
all that then the more I was like okay like yeah I mean it is like
legitimately risking your life questionable why you would I wouldn't for this but you know to your point
don't Yu someone's yums I guess yeah I mean if they're not hurting anyone but themselves you know it's cool if they do
it and but I just the the the leaving the the dead bodies
there is is is really hard to to like I don't know wrap your head around yeah
like how like none of my hobbies involve walking past the people who
tried to do it before and died yeah you know like that just is a lot and it's
when you see that you're like what is wrong with you but also like who cares yeah if they want to do it and it's the
same thing I mean like bringing up the Titanic situation like yeah you're Lally just going down to see a grave where the
body just happen to have been consumed by the elements but like that's that's what you're doing you're like
so I watched this like when I was watching all those disaster movies and I was thinking about Yellowstone exploding
there was one where the I can't remember which one it was but where like the
people were on these like big arcs that they had like to go to to like try to stay alive and like the rich people were
on them because they knew the world was ending and the world was ending and it was shifting so quickly that they were like on a boat and the boat was going to
hit Mount Everest and it was just like really dumb but it they were like how could we how could there be a mountain
this high and they're like it's not Everest and it was like a big flood and like a thing that was 2012 was it 2012
yeah yes okay okay um yeah that was so
stupid Oh the Earth shifted oh because then there was like that Russian and then like his like girlfriend and yeah
and then and then like the people who you're supposed to think are the like the main characters
of that movie like do something that makes a bunch of people die remember that part and then it's okay
yeah yeah anyway but like but where where does the water come from like how do you get
enough water to fill Mount Everest it makes no sense like we have we have a lot of very serious questions
about the truth behind the movie 2012 it's good though that's so funny that's
so funny yeah um sweet that's my story hope people liked it I'm looking for
some fun cool ideas um so anybody has a cool idea for me I
will take cool ideas yeah what what kind of ideas do you
want more murder stuff but I'm I'm like kind of getting gassed out on murder because it's just like there's only so
many crazy people in the world and so many ways you can say and then he cut her head off you know
fair so I feel like there's one that someone sent to us on Instagram let me make sure I send it to
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