Let's bring it back to one of the most notorious disasters in history - the crash of The Hindenburg! We learned SO many things in this one from 2024 - it crashed at the end of a journey that took it from Europe and over NYC -- there are pictures of The Hindenburg Blimp flying over New York City hours before it crashed with SWASTIKAS on its tail feathers! And more!
Let's bring it back to one of the most notorious disasters in history - the crash of The Hindenburg!
We learned SO many things in this one from 2024 - as it crashed at the end of a journey that took it from Europe and over NYC -- there are pictures of The Hindenburg Blimp flying over New York City hours before it crashed with SWASTIKAS on its tail feathers!
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This is our last spring break episode on the Hindenburg
>> Taylor: Hi, it's Taylor from Dune to Fail. Welcome to our last spring break episode. This one is on the Hindenburg. This is a good one to end with because it's not going to make you want to travel for a smidge. Not that you're going to ever travel on a zeppelin. Like, I'm sorry you're not. But let's learn about the Hindenburg. So you probably know that it crashed and it was a zeppelin, which is like a blimp. Same thing. They're a little bit different. It was huge. And the thing that I didn't know until this episode, I'm going to spoil this part for you. Is that it was obviously German Hindenburg. Obviously. But it had N*** flags on it, and it flew over New York City. So the Hindenburg, before it crashed in New Jersey, flew over New York City with swastikas on it. I just think that's absolutely wild. I didn't know that until I did the research for this one. So hope you had a great spring break. Hope you enjoy this episode. And we will be back next week with new content. Thanks.
In the matter of the people of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA096
In the matter of the people of State of California vs. Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA096.
>> Farz: And so, my fellow American, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. I was thinking, am I getting too close to history stuff? Okay. If I overstep, you'll tell me, right?
>> Taylor: I'll let you know.
>> Farz: Okay. We have. We have boundaries.
>> Taylor: Okay. Perfect.
>> Farz: Cool.
>> Taylor: Perfect.
>> Farz: Cool.
>> Taylor: Well, thank you. I'm gonna maybe watch some Keystone Cops later.
>> Farz: It looks funny. Buster Keane was in it.
>> Taylor: Yeah, he's funny.
>> Farz: And then one of Fatty's nephews was in it, too. And so it's just. I don't know, it's just like a cool little time capsule of, like, the 1920s.
>> Taylor: Yeah, totally.
>> Farz: I love it.
>> Taylor: Well, I'm actually going further in the future than 1920. That is today. I know.
>> Farz: Wow. Okay. Yeah.
>> Taylor: So I was thinking about you being in Ireland and flying there, and you had mentioned that you wanted to go to Belfast to see the tit where the Titanic launch from. And then I was thinking, like, what else went from Europe to America? And, like, we've been trying to really crack this code of getting across the pond for, you know, for centuries.
The Hindenburg was an airship that went from Europe to the US
So another famous thing that went from. From Europe to the US Was an airship called the Hindenburg.
>> Farz: Oh, that's awesome.
>> Taylor: I'm going to tell you about the tragedy of. Of the airship Hindenburg. The Hindenburg was made by The Zeppelin Company, also known as Luftschef Bow Zeppelin, it was founded in 1908 by Count Ferdinand von. Von Zeppelin. So like the guy's name is Zeppelin, which is fun. He was a German inventor, an aviation pioneer. And he was born on July 8, 1838 in Konstanz, Germany. So we're like, it starts off in like the early 1900s and then the Hindenburg, you'll find out, crashed in 1937. So that's kind of where the story ends. Count von Zeppelin had a distinguished military career. He was in the Prussian army. During his military service, he gained experience in engineering and aeronautics. So this is like the very beginning of like, maybe we can do stuff in the sky. He went to, he came to the US to observe during the American Civil War. Because what happened here is that people use balloons, like hot air balloons for reconnaissance for like the first time. So like the first time that you could like of another army's stuff, that was never, never a thing in the history of the world. And I definitely remember being a kid and like reading a book about women who would like take their hoop skirts, like their big dresses and make them into hot air balloons so that they could do that, like reconnaissance. I don't know if that's really true or not, but I read it was like a book I read a little. I think that's probably true because during wartime, you know, you like get rid of all your stuff to like help the cause. So. Yeah, but we use hot air balloons for that. And Zeppelin, he, he came here and observed them. He worked with the French and other countries to perfect his ideas. And he eventually invented the airship. So he. So just for the record, Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin passed away in 1917, which is about like nine years after he started his company. The first successful flight of a Zeppelin, the LZ1, took place on July 2, 1900. Eventually there were more flights. Germany uses Zeppelin as an aerial bomber during World War I. They use it to bomb France, UK and Belgium. It's a very, very German invention.
>> Farz: Did he invent the concept of an airship?
>> Taylor: Yes.
>> Farz: Oh, that's pretty, that's pretty like revolutionary.
>> Taylor: Yeah, absolutely. It's definitely like they were like kind of planes a little bit during this time. That was like, that was starting, but it was like, how can we get in the air faster? You know, and that's why he was thinking like a ship. And the only really concept you had for like long distance travel also was a ship ship. Yeah, you know, because it takes like 10 days to cross the Atlantic on a ship, like a steamer, you know? So you have that idea that it's gonna take a long time. It has to be huge.
>> Farz: Right?
>> Taylor: Did you ever watch Fringe? That show?
>> Farz: If I did, I don't remember it.
>> Taylor: Well, two things. One, my God, this is like. This is a. A thing and a thing. Did you ever watch Hot Tub Time Machine?
>> Farz: Oh, yeah.
>> Taylor: Did you see Hot Tub Time Machine two?
>> Farz: No.
>> Taylor: Okay. It's better than the first one. It's so good. But one of the. The. The sun will. Will go. This is just like Fringe. And then everybody else will go, you're a nerd, and nobody likes you, and nobody likes you. It's so funny. So whenever I think of Fringe, I think of that. And then also. So fringe is very complicated, but there's like, an alternate universe, and the only difference is that 9, 11 didn't happen. And there are zeppelins. It's hilarious because, you know, you're in that universe because you see the. See the Twin Towers, and also there are zeppelins.
>> Farz: Do you also know. Do you remember in Hot Up Time Machine, when that guy went back and he created Lugal?
>> Taylor: Yes. So good. Literally was listening to a Motley Crue song in the car. And I only know it. I know it best for being a Motley Lou song from Pot of Time Machine.
>> Farz: Oh, man, I need to rewatch that now.
>> Taylor: Watch. The second one's so good. You have to watch it. You've also probably heard that the Empire State Building was planned to be, like, a place where you could drop people off in zeppelins, but it ended up being too windy up there.
>> Farz: Makes sense.
>> Taylor: Yeah. So the basic framework of a zeppelin is an oblong shape. You know what it looks like? It has an aluminum frame. Because aluminum is very light, it's covered in fabric. The fabric is painted over with a few layers of, like, special paint and chemicals to make it sturdy. Zeppelin itself is full of hydrogen. Hydrogen is lighter than air, so it floats, but it's obviously very flammable. Like, that's the thing when a better gas to use than hydrogen would be helium. But helium is a naturally occurring gas, and we're currently in a helium shortage.
Scientists estimate that at current global consumption, helium consumption will end in 300 years
During the early 1900s, when the Germans are like, oh, we should try helium. The only people that really had an abundance of helium was the United States, and we would not give it to them.
>> Farz: Okay, so they had no choice but to use hydrogen.
>> Taylor: Yeah. Right. Now, scientists estimate that at the current rate of global consumption, we have enough helium for, like, another 100 to 200 years, and then it'll be over.
>> Farz: No more balloons.
>> Taylor: So in 300 years. Yeah. No balloons at your birthday parties, future kids.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: That's cbu. Yeah.
>> Farz: Oh, my God. And. And that, along with how we feel about clowns, is going to completely destroy the clown community.
>> Taylor: It's going to be over. Absolutely. There's no helium. We wouldn't give it to them because it's the early 1900s and we don't trust them. And so it's filled with hydrogen. There's essentially like 16 giant balloons in the middle of the zeppelin filled with hydrogen. There's fins that do the directions on, like, the sides and the back to help it go up and down. There's like an engine and some like, propellers. There's a control room. It has wheels, like a, like a ship wheel. Wheel to keep it steady and to keep going up and down. So the captain kind of works in there in some cases, like in the Hindenburg. There's passenger cars. There's a restaurant. Like also in Indiana Jones jumper. That part of Indiana Jones when they're getting on the airship. And then he's like, no ticket because he punches that guy go out the window.
>> Farz: I believe every time I leave this podcast, like, man, that's like seven more hours of media consumption for me.
>> Taylor: So, you know, whatever. It's pre plane travel, but planes are close. The problem right now is they don't know how to press pressurize an airplane, so it has to fly low and it takes a long time to. To go. And it's very dependent on the weather because now, you know, you fly above the weather, but you couldn't do that then. The zeppelin also was not pressurized, so it was also pretty dependent on the. On the weather. And then there was also some water, like a whole bunch, many tanks of water in it that they could, like that they could ballast out so like dump up the water so that it would go up and down. So holy s***. There's different ways to make it move.
>> Farz: There's N*** flags on the side of this thing.
>> Taylor: I'm going to get to that. No, that's the craziest part, I think.
>> Farz: Okay, sorry.
>> Taylor: So it sounds scary and kind of fun. The current zeppelin that you might think of would be the Goodyear blimp. And Goodyear blimps were actually just balloons, like a big hot air balloon until 2014, when they started getting remade as helium zeppelin. Goodyear actually works with Germany's ZLT Zeppelin Lu Shank, which is the same company that Zeppelin started. So it. The company is like back and Making Zeppelin. And that's what Goodyear worked with to make these new Goodyear like blimp Zeppelins. After World War I, the Treaty of Versailles told Germany they couldn't make any more Zeppelin for their military and they made them destroy all of them. So the company continued and did passenger Zeppelins. And then after, In World War II, they built the V2 rocket for the Nazis. And the company dissolved right before World War II ended. But they had some money kind of set aside and it was re. Re, like created in the 1990s. So yeah, it's a very N*** thing, like you were saying, which is not what I remembered.
>> Farz: Are you going to go into more detail about what the passenger experience was on the Hindenburg? Yeah. Okay, then I will suspend questions going
>> Taylor: back to the beginning. Even though it sounds scary in like, because you're like in this big, huge, huge thing. Zeppelins are actually pretty safe way to travel for the first 30 years or so. There are a few accidents, but Germans are very confident that this is like, this is it, this is the way to travel. One notable zeppelin was the Graph Zeppelin. In 1929 it flew around the world on August 7, 1920, 29, and it left from Friedrichshafen, Germany and took 21 days to travel all around the world. Stopped in the Soviet Union, Japan, United States. People were super excited because they had done this traveling fast as anybody had ever traveled around the world. There were a couple accidents, some in the 1900s where people crashed and nobody died. There was one 1910, the LZ7, known as the Deutschland, caught fire and crashed during a test flight. Two people died. In 1913, the LZ20, known as the Zeppelin L2, crashed and all 28 crew members on board died. And then in 1933, the USS Akron, which was not a zeppelin but an airship because it was from the United States, encountered severe weather and they crashed. And 73 people died in that one. So there are accidents, but also like what transportation isn't perfect. You know, there's like one story where a Zeppelin disappears over the ocean, like it never made it. But like that happened the other day with that Malaysia Airline flight.
>> Farz: So yeah, I was gonna say also like, I mean, by compare, I mean planes couldn't have been super reliable, right?
>> Taylor: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. So I don't. Yeah, I don't think it's like crazy. It's not crazy dangerous.
The Hindenburg was one of the largest airships ever constructed
So let's. I'll talk about the Hindenburg itself and what was happening inside of it. It was named after the German president, Paul von Hindenburg. Hindenburg is the guy who appointed Hitler as Chancellor.
>> Farz: So Bad move.
>> Taylor: Yeah, bad move. It is one of the largest airships ever constructed. It was completed in 1936. It was 803ft in length. So like five passenger planes, like really big. The inside the ship itself there was like the gondola, which is the part that like you see that hangs off the bottom. That's where like the captain was and, and the crew, where they could like guide the ship. The passenger quarters were kind of inside the balloon part on the bottom, like layered on the bottom. And they had windows that were like curved going out. So if you were like in an egg sitting on the bottom of the egg, you know what I mean? Flat. There were two decks, A deck and B deck. The decks had sleeping quarters that were really small, like a small little room with bunk beds. And then it had like, there's a bathroom. There was. And then there were like some lounges, places where you could, you know, hang out. So also for the rest of the ship, that's only a tiny part of it where the passengers were for the rest of it, you know, like it's this big space with this, these big balloons of gas and there was a corridor that went through the balloons and in the middle of that there were some rooms for storage and for the crew. So it must have been like really dark and loud and scary inside of that corridor.
>> Farz: It sounds scary as s***.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: Thing is huge.
>> Taylor: It's only windows are on the side. Yeah. So you could like walk like, you know, 800ft in this like dark tunnel surrounded by flammable gas.
>> Farz: Yes.
>> Taylor: Above the ocean.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: There's also a reading and writing room to send telegraphs so you could like read and send messages to people in that room. And there was also a smoking room which people think is funny and like it's definitely funny, but people couldn't handle being on a three day trip and not smoking. Like. Yeah, that was the problem with the graft zeppelin. Like it was like, people were like, I can't. I'm not going to go on this trip for a week and not smoke a cigarette. So they made a room that was pressurized and you had to go in and be smoking there. There was one electric lighter allowed on the entire thing. You weren't allowed to bring in matches or lighters or anything. Like you were like searched before you got on and you could smoke in that room. The smoking room is not the problem. It's not the thing that exploded. It just like happened to be a room where you could smoke on this, like, bomb, essentially.
>> Farz: Yeah, I like how you phrase that. Smoke inside this bomb. That's great.
>> Taylor: Yeah, Yeah. A safe way to smoke inside a bomb. There was a bar that had paintings of flamenco dancers on the side. There was a lounge with a piano. The piano was specially made out of aluminum to be lighter than a regular grand piano, because otherwise it would be too heavy to be on the ship. There is a website that I'll share called on airships.net There's a lot of pictures of the inside of it. So it's like a nice, like, luxurious way to travel. So it's a really nice lounge. You got the windows are kind of on. Kind of on the side looking down, so you could look down. The rooms are small, but it's a short trip. It's like two and a half days. So people would, you know, be able to go on it and then just like kind of hang out and then be across the pond.
>> Farz: It seems like most of anything pasture related would have to be inside of the actual balloon.
>> Taylor: Yes. So that's. Yeah, it's inside the balloon. If you look at the picture of the Hindenburg, you see little tiny windows at the bottom of the balloon. Those are the windows from the passengers, the passenger decks. Yeah. So they were like, in the bottom of the balloon. They weren't in the gondola, which I thought.
>> Farz: Right.
>> Taylor: But they weren't. Yeah. A ticket on the Hindenburg one way was approximately $450, which is $9,400 today.
>> Farz: Wow.
>> Taylor: So it was like a luxury thing. It can cross the ocean in two days. Ships take like a week. Before 1937, Hindenburg made 17 round trips to and from Germany, 10 to the US and seven to Brazil. Super successful. No problems.
1937 is a crazy time to be in Germany ahead of World War II
Now it is May 3, 1937, and Hindenburg is about to come to the US again. 1937 is a crazy time to be in Germany. Hitler was appointed Chancellor in 1933. The Nazis are getting worse and worse and worse. It's very totalitarian. It's a year before Kristallnacht when they started to be, like, very publicly violent towards. Towards Jews. But they've been, you know, doing terrible things for now, for. For years now. There's propaganda, there's the Gestapo, there's the ss. It's a year before the official outbreak of World War II. But Germany is starting to invade other countries. So it's like it's starting gearing up for war. Someone actually wanted to rename the Hindenburg the Hitler, which is, like, unbelievable, but also Like, Hindenburg isn't a good guy, but it just doesn't have the same, like, tone as the immune Hitler.
>> Farz: The visceral reaction isn't quite there.
>> Taylor: Yeah, I'm not the same. So this is the thing that I think is. Is crazy. There's, like, very scary propaganda posters that show, like, the Hindenburg and zeppelins with the swastika with, like, the eagle with, like, the scary German things. Do you remember when we went to that German propaganda.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: Exhibit at the library? So it was at the LA Public Library like, several years ago, but we went and it showed a bunch of the propaganda. And then some of the takeaways were like, imagine what they could have done with the Internet, you know, like, it could be exponentially more scary now and then also, like, this happened because good people were like, it's no big deal. And then they got out of control and it was too late, you know, so it was like a. That was a very good message. Like, you have to stand up right now before it.
>> Farz: There is something unusually daunting and scary about this thing with N*** symbology all over it. Because it's just a giant. I mean, it looks like a missile. Like, it looks like a giant bomb.
>> Taylor: A big silver thing. Yeah, totally. Like, swastikas are scary. Like, yeah, they, like, hear the word Hitler. Like, you're afraid. Like, it's a scary symbol to see.
The Hindenburg flew over New York City on May 3, 1937
So the Hindenburg leaves Germany on May 3, 1937. 97 people were on board. They approached the US on May 6. So three days later, they're heading for Lakehurst, New Jersey. And that's where the landing strip is and where. Where they can land. There's also a lot of reporters there. The Zeppelin company really wanted reporters to be there whenever they landed. This was the first flight of the season. So they wanted everybody to, you know, record it and be like, zeppelins are awesome. You know? So the weather starts to get bad. It starts to get rainy. It starts to get kind of windy. And so to. They need to delay their landing. So they swing by New York City. And this is the part that's insane because they flew an airship with swastikas on it over New York City. Like, that blows my mind video of it.
>> Farz: But at that time, that was just a country swag, right? It didn't.
>> Taylor: No, I know. But yeah, but you, like, kind of knew. Like, I feel like people did not know. It wasn't, like, zero. You knew that, like. And also, people were still probably mad at Germany since we just did this.
>> Farz: Right, Right.
>> Taylor: You know, The Empire State Building was built in 1931. So people were. Could have been on top of the Empire State Building, 100 or so stories up. Like watching this. And I have video of it that I'll, I'll share. When I was living in New York City, I worked at a hedge fund and I was on the 38th floor of a building overlooking Central Park. It was beautiful, an awesome view. I saw two crazy things from being up there. I saw the space shuttle being brought to, to D.C. on top of an airplane. I remember that happened. It was like hugging it.
>> Farz: I saw that too, actually.
>> Taylor: Yeah. So I watched that out the window. And I also saw the, the Miracle on the Hudson plane. In the, in the Hudson.
>> Farz: You saw that landing.
>> Taylor: I didn't see it crash, but I saw it floating. And I knew it was happening because my friend Juliana from work, she had left work early to go home to New Jersey. And she was on the fer. Pulled people out of the water.
>> Farz: Wow.
>> Taylor: So she was like literally like giving people her coat and pulling them out of the water. But I saw it floating from the building that I was in. So you see crazy things. One experience, I go from New York City, but I just, I had never heard that it had swastikas on it. The Hindenburg had swastikas. So that kind of blew my mind.
>> Farz: If you do Hindenburg, New York City, would you see it?
>> Taylor: Yeah, there's a, a five minute newsreel from Britain. I'll send you the link. And you can see it. And it shows it like a video.
>> Farz: Wow. Yeah. That is kind of crazy.
>> Taylor: So the weather is getting, it looks,
>> Farz: it looks like an act of aggression. It doesn't look like.
>> Taylor: That's what I'm saying. It's scary. Like, it's scary. And, and they've, they've used zeppelins to bomb, you know, the UK during World War I. Like they've used them for that thing.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: So now it's heading back towards New Jersey. It took, it was about a 12 hour delay that they had because of weather. They're kind of like floating around trying to figure out when they can land. The captain, Max Proust, is attempting to maneuver the airship for landing. It took about three hours to get from New York to, to New Jersey. So technically they could have waited more, but because like they don't really, like, they kind of float up there for indefinite amount of time, but they wanted to, to land and get going. There are passengers waiting to return to Germany. So they were going to flip it around and go right Back to Germany. So they started to. As they start to kind of go into. Into New Jersey, the back of the Hindenburg is a little low, like, lower than you'd expect it to be. So they start dropping some of the water ballasts to kind of get it to go up. You don't know exactly what was happening because there isn't, like, a black box of recording, you know, so you don't know exactly what they were thinking. They could have potentially, like, has sent a guy back to, like, check on it, what was going on inside of it. They dropped their anchor lines. So they dropped their anchor lines and those hit the ground, and approximately four minutes later, flames erupted. And that's what you see in the new. In the newsreels is the. Is it. Is it burning? So have you heard Herbert Morrison's live account?
>> Farz: Oh, yeah.
>> Taylor: The humanity.
36 people died in a plane crash; more than half survived
Okay, I'm going to read it in a second. But also, do you remember in, like, elementary school, learning about War of the Worlds?
>> Farz: Oh, yeah, yeah. The. The Orson Worlds. Yep, yep.
>> Taylor: And they, like, make it seem they did when I was, like, in third grade, like, people were dumb for believing that War of the Worlds was. Was happening and that it was, like, their fault. But if you ever really listen to it, it's f****** scary. It sounds like a newsreel. You wouldn't know that it was someone acting. The only thing that's really kind of weird is, like, the time doesn't make sense. But I don't know how you would know it wasn't real. Like.
>> Farz: Yeah, I mean, that form of entertainment didn't exist. So, like, why. Why would you. Yeah. Why would you ever assume it wasn't real?
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: So.
>> Taylor: Okay, I'm gonna do my best Herbert Morrison impression. Ready?
>> Farz: Okay.
>> Taylor: So he's with Charlie, his engineer. Charlie is his, like, engineer, and Herbert Morrison is a reporter from Chicago. So he says. Starting to rain again. The rain sucked up a bit. The back motors of the ship are just holding it just enough to keep it from. It's bursting to flames. It's burst into flames. And it's falling. It's crashing. Watch it. Watch it, folks. Get out of the way. Get out of the way. Get this, Charlie. Get this, Charlie. It's burning. It's crashing. It's crashing. Terrible. Oh, my. Get out of the way, please. It's burning. Bursting into flames. And the. It's falling and the mooring mass and the folks between. Oh, this is terrible. This is one of the worst catastrophes in the world. World. Oh, it's flames crashing. Oh, four or five Hundred feet in the sky. And it's. It's a terrific crash, ladies and gentlemen. It's smoke and it's flames now. And the frame is crashing to the ground. Not quite to the mooring mast. Oh, the humanity. All the passengers screaming around here. I told you, I can't even talk to people. Their friends are on there. I can't talk, ladies and gentlemen, honest. It's just laying there, a massive smoking wreckage, and everyone can hardly breathe and talk. And the screaming lady. I am sorry, Honest. I can't hardly breathe. I'm going to step inside where I cannot see it. Charlie, this is terrible. I. I can't. Listen, folks, I'm gonna have to stop for a minute because I've lost my voice. This is the worst thing I've ever witnessed. And that was 30 seconds.
>> Farz: Wow. That feels. That really, like, puts you there in the moment. I could. Even the way you read it really well, because, like, I could feel the panic in the way you read it. Yeah. Thank you.
>> Taylor: Yeah. I mean, I didn't even think about, like, people are waiting for their friends with, like, the welcome home signs, you know, and they're watching it explode the frame. The flame started in the tail, rapidly spread through the ship. The hydrogen ignited.
>> Farz: Fireball.
>> Taylor: 30 seconds and it's gone. People were jumping out of the cabins. People on the ground running and screaming. 36 people died. 13 passengers and 22 crew members and one worker on the ground. So a fair amount of people, more than half people did survive.
>> Farz: Yeah. Because it was.
No one really knows 100% what happened on the 1938 Hindenburg
Wasn't it, like, close to the ground already? So it's not like it. And I would imagine is the first flames are running through the thing. The gas is, like, gradually escaping. Not like it's just, like, gone. Then you're dropped to the ground. Like, I'd imagine hit the ground harder than you'd want it to, but not, like, insanely hard, like.
>> Taylor: Well, it didn't. Didn't. Because it was. It did. It didn't, like, you're right, it didn't, like, crash into the ground. Like a plane crashed into the ground. It kind of, like flew into the ground, but also, like, it's a fireball on top of it. You know, it's like all fire and then, like, a little bit where passengers are and that fire is on top of them. So, yeah, they were pretty close to the ground. They're about 200ft above the ground. People did start to jump out of it. Some crew members even, like, threw ropes out and, like, mattresses to help people get out. They opened there's an emergency hatch. They slid down. So some people were like on their way running out of it, and then it crashed on top of them and they were burned. In the British Pathe News thing that I'll send you and share, they show that happening and it's awful that people are running out of it and then it just crashes on top of them. And it's really awful. So the mystery is, why did this happen? Like, no one really knows 100% what happened. And I'll show you, I'll share that footage with you. But all the footage is from one spot because that's where the reporters were. They were in like the reporter area. So they all have it from like one angle. But there are a lot of videos of it. They show people, you know, jumping and running and being smashed. So there had to be a spark somewhere, obviously to like start the fire. Some of the theories are like, maybe it was sabotaged because people don't, like Nazis. That could be a part of it. Maybe something exploded in the back. Maybe there was a leak. So the back of the ship was like getting lower. So maybe the hydrogen was leaking that you can't really. You really know. And then I watched this documentary on PBS that's like relatively new, about a new theory. A man named Howard Schenck, his uncle was there and had a video camera. Like it was like a wind up video camera, but he was in a different spot. So we got a different angle from the Hindenburg that no one has seen before. And from that they did some. They flew to Germany with like, some, like air, some experts, and they did some experiments. And what they discovered, and I think this is pretty convincing, is because it was raining, the ropes were wet, and the top of the zeppelin was wet as well. And when they dropped the ropes and the ropes hit the ground, it like connected it and then the whole thing became electrical. And then once that happened happens, the water creates a spark. So it's like why you don't have like a toaster in the oven, you know what I mean? And so when they did it, when they did their experiment, they electrified the rope. And then the top of the zeppelin, they got it wet. And it took four minutes to catch on fire, which is exactly what happened on the Kinderberg. So I'm pretty convinced by that. I thought it was really interesting so. Because they were like rushing to, to go down in the, in the rain. And just like the way it connected happened to like, cause a spark. So after. But they don't know, and we'll never really know for sure because all the evidence is destroyed. It's just like destroyed. There's nothing. There's just like aluminum burned aluminum girders or whatever. So after this, there were no more transatlantic zeppelin flights. It was over. People still had, you know, like a ticket to go back that day. They didn't, obviously. Planes started to get more sophisticated and then also, like, were folding into World War II. So there's other things to think about. The last zeppelin airship constructed by the company was the LZ130 graph Zeppelin 2. It flew in 1938, but it didn't go across the ocean again. It was used for like, sightseeing and N*** propaganda during World War II.
>> Farz: Right.
>> Taylor: I kind of think that I would go. I would go on one because it seems like, so weird. Like, I feel like we don't even talk about like the two days over the ocean on this. That's crazy. It sounds super scary, but, like, fun.
>> Farz: It definitely sounds scary. Yeah.
>> Taylor: So, I mean, also at that hedge fund that I worked at in New York, they were like, like companies who wanted you to like, invest in them would like, give you stuff. And two of the guys I worked with got to go on the Goodyear blimp. And they said it was really, really loud. That was like their biggest takeaway because, like, you're below, you're like low, and the windows can be opened, you know, so like. Yeah, it's like a loud thing. So now you can kind of do that, but. And I think you can also do like sightseeing blimps, like around obviously. But I also feel like I would not go on a hot air balloon. So I don't know.
>> Farz: I read something that while I'm looking this up, There are only 25 blimps in the world right now. Huh? Yeah, they're super rare, apparently. Only. Oh, I guess they're different, right?
>> Taylor: Yeah. Like a blimp is like a balloon, like a big balloon.
There were 119 zeppelins built. I would definitely want to sleep in one
And a zeppelin has like the, whatever the like metal inside.
>> Farz: There were 119 zeppelins built. I mean, there wasn't a lot of either, basically.
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: And if anything, so big.
>> Taylor: Where do you put them? Yeah, yeah.
>> Farz: The whole parking thing is really wild how you're supposed to just like tie it up to. I don't know. It's cool. It's cool. I. I would definitely. I would love to ride the Goodyear Blood. I don't think I do as that one. I do the Goodyear blend.
>> Taylor: That's fair. I'd like to do like a I think it'd be cool to like, sleep in a zeppelin. Do like a one. Name one. I don't know. It's possible, but it sounds pretty cool.
>> Farz: There's something about, like, vast open spaces that just scares the h*** out of me.
>> Taylor: No.
>> Farz: Inside that giant eight. What is it, 800ft?
>> Taylor: Yeah.
>> Farz: So scary.
>> Taylor: So scary. So scary. I don't know, but I feel like it's safe. I feel like now it feels like it would be safer because they have, like, computers and also I would want a parachute. Like, I don't want to do that.
>> Farz: Wait, so there's actually a page on the Goodyear website on how to get on the blimp.
>> Taylor: Oh, can you, like, sign up?
>> Farz: Oh, they're my invitation only.
>> Taylor: All right, let's get on that list.
>> Farz: Okay. We're gonna have to call our agent and tell them to hook it up.
>> Taylor: That's our. That's what we want. That's our next step.
>> Farz: Figure it out later.
>> Taylor: Doomed to fail. I want to be a blimp. It's like, very successful. Yeah, we're doing great. So, yeah, that's it. They don't really know what happened. Zeppelin's kind of one where they're kind of like a cool nostalgia thing to think about, like, that we thought it was going to be the thing and planes ended up being the thing. I think a red flag for this and for a lot of, like, trans Atlantic travel. Like the Titanic is like, you know, you want to go to Europe and you want to come to the US and you want to connect it. You want to be fast and luxurious and like, have super fun.
The Concorde was a supersonic jet that flew from the US to Europe
So one more thing that I wanted to mention real quick is another thing that they tried to do that ended up failing to go back and forth from Europe and the US Was the Concorde.
>> Farz: Oh, yeah.
>> Taylor: Remember the Concord? So, yeah, a couple bullets on the Concord. It was a supersonic jet that flew from the US to to mostly to NYC to London. Also flew to Paris and Singapore. The first flight was in 1976. The fastest flight was on February 7, 1996. The Concorde flew from New York to London in 2 hours and 52 minutes at the speed of Mach 2.
>> Farz: That's like so crazy right now.
>> Taylor: It takes 7 hours to get to for that flight.
>> Farz: Yeah, I've read a lot about the Concorde. About how like, given how fast it flies and how super heated the air outside gets, the thing, like, is elastic. Like, it expands and contracts, like, dramatically.
>> Taylor: It has a sonic boom. Yeah, yeah.
>> Farz: Well, and they don't. Do they don't go sonic until they hit the Atlantic, I don't think.
>> Taylor: Right. Because loud.
>> Farz: Yeah. It would just shatter everybody's windows.
>> Taylor: Yeah, yeah. So they. It's also very loud. Like I know someone who took it and she said it was very loud because they're going like supersonic through the air. It was also very luxurious, very expensive. It could hold 100 people. Only like 100 people at a time, passengers. And so because it's so fast, very similar to the Hindenburg disaster. There was one big disaster. On July 25, 2000, a Concorde crashed shortly after taking off from Charles de Gaulle airport. What happened was a strip of metal on the Runway caused a tire to burst, leading to rupture the fuel tank. The fuel ignited massive fire, loss of control. The aircraft crashed into a hotel, resulting in the Deaths of all 109 people on board and four people on the ground. Flights were halted. There was a test flight a few days later that had engine failure, returned safely. But that was the end for the Concorde as well. In 2003, it was grounded for good. They were, you know, super expensive and hard to maintain. They had more fuel than other planes and, you know, not a lot of people could afford to even take it. So they were like, it's kind of out priced a lot of people. So just like, just like the Hindenburg, you know, one big thing kind of turned the tide on, on that form of travel. I wanted to just say that those are some ways that terrible things can happen when you're going across, across the ocean. But I wanted to tell you that on your way home to enjoy your slow, your slow, leisurely flight. But also considering how long humanity has been around and that it took Columbus 10 weeks to get to America in the first place, it's pretty good. We're doing pretty good.
>> Farz: I, I actually thought the flight here, I mean, it was about eight hours and easy, easy breezy. Like I hate, I hate flying. But I thought it was surprisingly easy to just like zone out. I mean, they take care of you, right? Like you get fed and constantly. And watered and all that good stuff. So, yeah, no Concord needed.
>> Taylor: It's not too bad. No Concord needed. Exactly. Cool. So that's it. I'll share some videos. It's crazy. It's a crazy crash. Real scary.
>> Farz: Yeah.
>> Taylor: You can see why it's so famous in like, in history. And also a lot more Nazis than I realized.
>> Farz: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, I didn't realize there were any, so that was a surprise.
>> Taylor: Exactly. Yeah. I knew there were Germans, but Like, I forgot that the Germans were Nazis during 1937.
>> Farz: There's four Goodyear Blimps.
>> Taylor: Yeah, four Goodyear Blimps.
>> Farz: Yeah. They even have one in Europe.
>> Taylor: Oh, good for them.
>> Farz: Sure. And they don't let people write on it. Awesome. That was cool.
Taylor: Corrected some corrections from last week's episode
Sorry, I'm gonna lean back up, but I have.
>> Taylor: I have some corrections from last week's episode, if you have a second. So my father in law. My father in law is the doctor, and he listens and he's the best. So he texted me to tell me that I was wrong about chemotherapy. It's not radiation. There's actually two different things. There's radiation therapy that's more general, where they, like, put you in front of the machine and, like, radiation, like, goes into your body. And chemotherapy is more. Can be more deliberate and more exact on exactly where it's going. So it. It's like, not radiation. It's like different kinds of drugs that are meant to stop the. The cancer from growing. So they both have the same goal, which is to kill and change the cancer cells so that they don't grow anymore. Right now there's actually some things that people are working on, on biological agents which are called biologics, and they use usually antibodies that treat autoimmune conditions and cancer. So that's sort of like the next step in cancer research and cancer care. And so that is, you know, hopefully coming soon. Hopefully going to do something really great. This is a terrible. I'm so sorry, Victor. And then. So, yeah, radiation might happen before chemo, but chemo itself is not radiation.
>> Farz: Got it. Got it. Okay. That was good. Correction. Yeah, I saw you posted that. You post that on our Facebook page, I think.
>> Taylor: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> Farz: Thank you, Victor.
>> Taylor: Thank you. You're the best. Cool.
>> Farz: Sweet. Well, thank you, Taylor. I'll go ahead and kill the recording again, like, subscribe, all the good stuff. I'll kill this recording, and this travel will have no impact on our release schedule.
>> Taylor: Thank you. Thank you, everyone.